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Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
January 27 2012 19:26 GMT
#321
On the lurker note, where the heck is refallen, he has 3 short posts in the game...
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
January 27 2012 19:33 GMT
#322
Guys I think we have a problem.

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Mass Lurkers
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
January 27 2012 19:50 GMT
#323
On January 28 2012 04:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Lanaia is always wishy washy. Every game regardless of alignment.

Nice try to everyone stuffing their vote on her, but she should not be the lynch. I'd definitely lynch radfield over her. I don't have a proper read on navillus or cwave, but I have no problem lynching them.

Show nested quote +
Meapak also fits the lurker bill, buts here's the thing. If Meapak is scum, he was doing one of a few things with his posts. A) He picked out a quick pro-town read on me, and tried to sabotage my cred or get me lynched(ballsy and unlikely). B) Picked out a scum read on me and tried to bus me to gain town cred(unlikely). C) Ignored my potential alignment and just went all out in an effort to build scum-hunting effort credentials(likely).

Or alternatively he is town and saw what he thought was a player trying to communicate with his scum buddies(most likely)


And how is this not a direct contradiction of what you said not to do. You are essentially calling him town here. One strike too many.

##Vote: Radfield


Radfield, under the combined weight of ignorance and misunderstanding, crashes to the floor helpless
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 27 2012 19:52 GMT
#324
I won't be back until after the lynch, so I hope you die radfield :D

Also... there is only one way to deal with lurkers.

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Together but separate, like oatmeal
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 27 2012 19:53 GMT
#325
EBWOP: That was the wrong one lol

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Together but separate, like oatmeal
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
January 27 2012 20:05 GMT
#326
I'm honestly losing my will to play this game. Everything I post someone pops up with an inane reason for it to be scummy.

On January 28 2012 04:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
Meapak also fits the lurker bill, buts here's the thing. If Meapak is scum, he was doing one of a few things with his posts. A) He picked out a quick pro-town read on me, and tried to sabotage my cred or get me lynched(ballsy and unlikely). B) Picked out a scum read on me and tried to bus me to gain town cred(unlikely). C) Ignored my potential alignment and just went all out in an effort to build scum-hunting effort credentials(likely).

Or alternatively he is town and saw what he thought was a player trying to communicate with his scum buddies(most likely)


And how is this not a direct contradiction of what you said not to do. You are essentially calling him town here. One strike too many.

##Vote: Radfield


For the last, and I do mean last time, it's not about an embargo on the word town, it's not about never stating you don't think someone is worth a lynch, it's not about semantical statements. It's about not giving the mafia juicy lists of who we collectively think is most townish(because that directly helps them determine whom to kill, and increases the likelyhood of getting that kill).

You're case is bullshit, and so is everything about your play this game. You're doing false scumhunting, and trying to look like you are contributing, when in fact you are just bandwagonning a strong player.

##Vote Bumatlarge
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2012 20:07 GMT
#327
On January 28 2012 03:39 Radfield wrote:
You're either being obtuse by refusing to explain to me why you think I am scum, or I suppose I am obtuse for failing to understand where you have laid out your problems.

Assigning varying degrees of scumminess is ALWAYS useful. It happens every game, and I don't understand how you can object to it. Lets say I have 4 players I think are scum, obviously I don't think they are equally likely to be scum. They all have degrees of scumminess, and I'm going to indicate that when I post my reads. What are you even arguing here?

Can someone else please explain to me what Jackal is objecting to, because I really don't see it(or understand it).

Dammit man. It's not what you said. It's the language you used. Scum need a means to identify each other through their messaging. Your one little line of scumminess is in my mind a means of communication. There was absolutely no reason for the way you worded that. It served no purpose. It conveyed no meaning that "Don't call others town" would not have. Sorry but I can see no reason for inventing a scummy scale that basically says town or not town other than as a reference to use in your anonymous messaging to your teammates.
Life can only kill you once.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
January 27 2012 20:17 GMT
#328
On January 28 2012 05:07 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 03:39 Radfield wrote:
You're either being obtuse by refusing to explain to me why you think I am scum, or I suppose I am obtuse for failing to understand where you have laid out your problems.

Assigning varying degrees of scumminess is ALWAYS useful. It happens every game, and I don't understand how you can object to it. Lets say I have 4 players I think are scum, obviously I don't think they are equally likely to be scum. They all have degrees of scumminess, and I'm going to indicate that when I post my reads. What are you even arguing here?

Can someone else please explain to me what Jackal is objecting to, because I really don't see it(or understand it).

Dammit man. It's not what you said. It's the language you used. Scum need a means to identify each other through their messaging. Your one little line of scumminess is in my mind a means of communication. There was absolutely no reason for the way you worded that. It served no purpose. It conveyed no meaning that "Don't call others town" would not have. Sorry but I can see no reason for inventing a scummy scale that basically says town or not town other than as a reference to use in your anonymous messaging to your teammates.



That makes much more sense, and actually gives me an idea to why the line put you off. Realize that I probably spent about 3 seconds writing that line.

I disagree that the line "don't call others town" would have done the same purpose. It likely would have for some people, but look at the sheer volume of people who misunderstood my post, DESPITE me putting in the extra examples, etc. I strive for clarity in my posts(and I obviously failed hard with that one) and I tried to make my point crystal clear. That is the reason that line exists. It's not a code, it's not a breadcrumb, it's just an example in an effort to illustrate my point.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look, just forget about that, and take my posting as a whole. If you still feel like this is somehow scum-radfield, then fine, but please don't vote me on the basis of one throw-away line - A throw away line that no one else(that i can tell) even finds scummy.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 27 2012 20:43 GMT
#329
Sorry, I did say I'd be busy today. Fridays are always the worst for me, or at least they will be until I can convince my boss to stop making me work til 4 am while I'm in school.

Reread the thread, changed my mind.
I don't like Navi's vote on red, but I do like the one on meapak.

Still don't really like cwave, but I'll leave him be. Considering igrok said he's changing the way cell members communicate, I do not really understand why he assumed it would still be a message of 5 words or 20 characters. It doesn't logically follow.

Now that I fully understand what rad was trying to say, I agree. However, if he'd actually said "don't call people town" I probably would have understood more quickly. Not touching his wagon with a 20 foot pole. I do not want him lynched today.

Bum I don't like. He's been saying things that I really think aren't good for us, but radfield pointed some of it out earlier. Now, I'm not terribly good at reading bum, but he's realllllllllly rubbing me the wrong way. Especially after iso'ing him. I also don't see why he felt like he needed to post those images. Not like they're helping anything.
I'm voting bum. I may or may not be back before lynch (depends how long staff meeting is).
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 27 2012 20:45 GMT
#330
I should make it clear that I really don't understand why anyone ever feels like posting images. I mean, I understand that game where Palmar made that video, but that was really more an AtE (in that it made me listen to him from that point on) than an image for the hell of it.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 27 2012 20:45 GMT
#331
On January 28 2012 05:17 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 05:07 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 28 2012 03:39 Radfield wrote:
You're either being obtuse by refusing to explain to me why you think I am scum, or I suppose I am obtuse for failing to understand where you have laid out your problems.

Assigning varying degrees of scumminess is ALWAYS useful. It happens every game, and I don't understand how you can object to it. Lets say I have 4 players I think are scum, obviously I don't think they are equally likely to be scum. They all have degrees of scumminess, and I'm going to indicate that when I post my reads. What are you even arguing here?

Can someone else please explain to me what Jackal is objecting to, because I really don't see it(or understand it).

Dammit man. It's not what you said. It's the language you used. Scum need a means to identify each other through their messaging. Your one little line of scumminess is in my mind a means of communication. There was absolutely no reason for the way you worded that. It served no purpose. It conveyed no meaning that "Don't call others town" would not have. Sorry but I can see no reason for inventing a scummy scale that basically says town or not town other than as a reference to use in your anonymous messaging to your teammates.



That makes much more sense, and actually gives me an idea to why the line put you off. Realize that I probably spent about 3 seconds writing that line.

I disagree that the line "don't call others town" would have done the same purpose. It likely would have for some people, but look at the sheer volume of people who misunderstood my post, DESPITE me putting in the extra examples, etc. I strive for clarity in my posts(and I obviously failed hard with that one) and I tried to make my point crystal clear. That is the reason that line exists. It's not a code, it's not a breadcrumb, it's just an example in an effort to illustrate my point.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look, just forget about that, and take my posting as a whole. If you still feel like this is somehow scum-radfield, then fine, but please don't vote me on the basis of one throw-away line - A throw away line that no one else(that i can tell) even finds scummy.

For what it's worth people posting pictures put me off as well. Scum are forced to use this thread to identify and communicate with each other.
Life can only kill you once.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 20:54 GMT
#332
On January 28 2012 05:43 Lanaia wrote:
Now that I fully understand what rad was trying to say, I agree. However, if he'd actually said "don't call people town" I probably would have understood more quickly. Not touching his wagon with a 20 foot pole. I do not want him lynched today.


Not touching his wagon? What do you mean?
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 27 2012 21:00 GMT
#333
On January 28 2012 05:54 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 05:43 Lanaia wrote:
Now that I fully understand what rad was trying to say, I agree. However, if he'd actually said "don't call people town" I probably would have understood more quickly. Not touching his wagon with a 20 foot pole. I do not want him lynched today.


Not touching his wagon? What do you mean?


I mean I will not vote him.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
January 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#334
You guys should vote Bum. In my eyes he's our best shot at hitting scum today.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
January 27 2012 21:09 GMT
#335
Do you really think he's better than Meapak McLurkinson?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 21:14 GMT
#336
I really distrust the tone of I will not touch his wagon. Thats purely a tone based on voting in a way that only cares how you look in the end.

I feel good about this vote now.

##vote Lanaia
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
January 27 2012 21:17 GMT
#337
Yaaaaaaaaaaay happy make up time, but now on a more serious note, we need to lynch bumatlarge, on a scale from 1 to scum he is king bum lord of the scumpeople. And that is because of this post.


On January 28 2012 04:17 bumatlarge wrote:
Lanaia is always wishy washy. Every game regardless of alignment.

Nice try to everyone stuffing their vote on her, but she should not be the lynch. I'd definitely lynch radfield over her. I don't have a proper read on navillus or cwave, but I have no problem lynching them.

Show nested quote +
Meapak also fits the lurker bill, buts here's the thing. If Meapak is scum, he was doing one of a few things with his posts. A) He picked out a quick pro-town read on me, and tried to sabotage my cred or get me lynched(ballsy and unlikely). B) Picked out a scum read on me and tried to bus me to gain town cred(unlikely). C) Ignored my potential alignment and just went all out in an effort to build scum-hunting effort credentials(likely).

Or alternatively he is town and saw what he thought was a player trying to communicate with his scum buddies(most likely)


And how is this not a direct contradiction of what you said not to do. You are essentially calling him town here. One strike too many.

##Vote: Radfield


Now first remember that scum in this game are playing in the dark like us, so to identify scum they need to go on the same reads that we have. With that in mind, we had just decided that it lurking day1 is very scummy this game and pointed our lurker-lynch at Lanaia, no sooner had we done that than bum decided to jump to her aid. Now the fact is that he literally cannot know any more about her than we do at this point, he's also not stupid, this means that he should have the same conclusion that everyone else has come to, lurkers are scummy, Lanaia was lurking.

He then chose to defend him/her, (lanaia = m/f?) this only makes sense if he himself is scum and realized that one of his own was likely about to get lynched, he even goes so far as to be ok with lynching ANY of the other people brought up for lynches and pushes for a rad lynch while rad is one of my town reads. Agreeing to anyone else just stinks of him trying to avoid the Lanaia lynch, which is just weird, Lanaia had been lurking there's no way he could've even had a strong town read for him/her.

Bum is scum QED
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and that rhymed - vote for him
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Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
January 27 2012 21:18 GMT
#338
As a note that was written up like 20 minutes ago and I got distracted, I also forgot to

Vote: bumatlarge
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
January 27 2012 21:21 GMT
#339
Also Blazinghand, Hesmyrr, and GGQ need to move their votes to people that actually are in the running for a lynch - and by that I mean bum- or you're just letting scum choose where the lynch goes.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 21:25 GMT
#340
Nav you should vote lanaia imo because your case is based on a conclusion that she is being VERY scummy.
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