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Your trade sticks out like a sore thumb. Look at everybody else who received VP:
I spearheaded the wherebugsgo lynch.
Palmar spearheaded the VisceraEyes lynch, was a vocal opponent of the plans and heavily supported the wherebugsgo lynch.
LSB did huge work on all of the plans and spearheaded [UoN]Sentinel lynch.
risk.nuke has also been very vocal with plans and lynch.
layabout has been very vocal and has stuck out to plenty of people.
Paperscraps doesn't really matter because Palmar traded him and Palmar is a crazy man (and he's town).
Jackal58 has not been vocal at all.
Skimming his Purgatory filter, your meta description of him is plain wrong. Jackal58's scum play and his town play is very hard to tell apart. He didn't care about the lynch at all, he voted with a one liner on pure meta and left. You say yourself that you think that caring about the lynch is a town trait, then why did you give VP to a guy who seemingly didn't care about the lynch?
There's a reason you're thinking so differently from everybody else.
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Hey risk.nuke what do you think about LSB/layabout?
If they're both scum, isn't it weird that LSB traded 2 votes to layabout, when layabout was very suspicious in the thread yesterday and was a big candidate for today's lynch? That would be like throwing 2 votes away.
Also, about VisceraEyes' insanity, you should check out XLVIII. The guy was insane in that game too and he was scum. I haven't seen him go this crazy in any other game. And by insane I mean, he tunneled Palmar for 3 days straight even though everybody was telling him to stop it.
What do you think about Dirkzor and Jackal58? I think it's weird that Dirkzor would trade Jackal58 on such a flimsy reasonable, Jackal58's play in Purgatory doesn't fit Dirkzor's description at all and Jackal58 hasn't displayed any stellar town play in this game at all. I know that townies do stupid things but you can only give them this much room until you have to lynch them.
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Alright, any vigilante would have claimed by now, which means that one of VisceraEyes and Palmar is scum 'cause I doubt scum would have used an additional KP on VisceraEyes. Since I think that VisceraEyes is more likely to be scum than Palmar (and by a considerable margin), he's gonna get lynched.
##Unvote: Dirkzor
##Vote: VisceraEyes
I have no freaking idea why you claimed though VisceraEyes but I'm going to attribute it to your scum induced insanity that you have displayed before.
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On January 31 2012 03:45 risk.nuke wrote:
prplhz quit beeing a moron.
Can you give me one reason a townie would want to be an asshole like this?
This is purely out of curiosity and has nothing to do with this game.
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Can people please vote/hammer VisceraEyes? Look at wherebugsgo yesterday, he was killed in half an hour. Why is it taking so much longer today when VisceraEyes is way more scummier than wherebugsgo was? Plenty of people around.
Palmar is hit night1 as town just about every game. VisceraEyes has never been hit by scum night1. QED. I think the only people in this town who would shoot day1 as vigilante is Palmar and chaoser and they'd both claim immediately after and they've both had the chance.
VisceraEyes clearly dies today and we have at 36 hours until next lynch which is plenty so stop using that as an excuse. Vote him now so we can get on with the game.
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On January 31 2012 08:51 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 08:47 jaybrundage wrote:
You right this big post about how no one has any good arguments against you. And how you are a bad lynch.
But in your scum list i was the second person (after VE/Palmar)
So put a case against me then against anyone. Complaining that your a bad lynch isnt helping anyone. How about you scum hunt instead of going on. Fuck you
lol dude i don't care what alignment you are you need to calm down
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Killing people isn't about who has this or that many votes, it's about hitting scum. Doesn't matter how many votes they have then.
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Would you really have supported the trade circle as scum Palmar? I think it's so weird that wherebugsgo did that.
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It's just that this is a no-flip closed setup, it's crazy to think of a plan and even considering to enforce it, and there could be scum trade-riggers and cowboys and nothing is gained from blindly policy lynching people who wouldn't follow the plan. Making huge plans that prevents content generation seems ludicrous to me in a no-flip setup where analysis is all that we have. I have no idea why Jackal58 thinks you're town based solely on your being against a plan, when the plan was crazy from the beginning and this worries me along with the weird VP he received from Dirkzor. I haven't read Dirkzor very heavily though.
I am having a somewhat difficult time convincing myself that layabout is scum. He didn't care about the day1 lynch as much as I think he did in Student Mafia and then this post seems scummy to me. He also hides a lot of his analysis away in spoilers, he always does this but I think it's been really bad this game like he's ashamed or like he's trying to hide instead of being KICKASS and wanting everybody to listen to him like he did in Student Mafia. In Student Mafia he had a good analysis on xtfftc that he didn't hide in spoilers, in this game he hid his [UoN]Sentinel analysis in spoilers and also some stuff on me that I actually missed the first time around. In his favor is a lot of activity, but then he's always ALWAYS active.
Now one's gone insane. You tend to have that effect on people.
LSB seems to have kept his focus all game long, becoming a bit flustered in the face of your accusations, and in the end, with all the effort he's put into the game he hasn't done anything townie. He pushed a plan which I think was terrible and he pushed a lynch which I think was bad. LSB is supposed to be good and stuff. He could easily be scum. Maybe it's just that it seems too easy that you just out 4 scum on day2.
Also, you can't extort me because you know I'm town. I'll help you with your lynches but you may need to give a little more than "VisceraEyes traded LSB traded layabout traded risk.nuke traded me, and thusly they're all scum" at some point. Mostly just to satisfy my curiosity.
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What about Palmar in Responsibility Mafia! ? He called out L on day1, and L was actually scum. That's some ballsy traitor play. If you can really just tell by his tone then I'm really impressed. This "tone" thing is something some people talk about but I doubt I have even the faintest conception of what it's supposed to be.
Also, this is really post-game stuff I'm talking about, I'm not trying to arouse suspicion against Palmar. He's town alright. I'm just curious.
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I gave 5 votes to Palmar because he was town.
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There's no WIFOM here, LSB flipped scum and he likely traded a scumbuddy. Scum wouldn't attempt this gamble with a town layabout because if layabout or somebody else had a role that could confirm him then they would be screwed. You don't all in like that.
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##Unvote: layabout
Palmar had 4 votes
Jackal58 gave a vote to Palmar = 5
chaoser gave a vote to Palmar = 6
I gave 5 votes to Palmar = 11
Palmar gave 1 vote away = 10
layabout had 5 votes and could maximum have given 4 votes away. That would leave him at 1. If he siphoned 10 from Palmar he would be at 11 but he's at 10.
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On February 01 2012 12:45 Paperscraps wrote:
Palmar gave one vote to you prplhz. That is why you have 2 votes and not 1.
I don't really see the point of you saying this as I have made it very clear that I know this in the post I wrote that is just above this one.
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Okay, I assumed that the kill and the siphon was probably one and the same thing but you have a point. I'm gonna check my numbers again though.
About Palmar's hit, I think it's obvious he wasn't a veteran or else he wouldn't have given 2 votes away day1 and 1 day2. He obviously expected not to be protected day1 and expected to be protected day2. This means that scum had an unblockable kill. If siphon and unblockable kill was two different things, then it means that they killed him not for his votes but because of his opinions. Which was centered around layabout and risk.nuke.
Node, did your hit flip alignment and role or only alignment?
This explains why VisceraEyes went crazy in the thread, LSB may have had an unblockable kill role and VisceraEyes threw himself under a bus.
Checking numbers.
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Okay that would have been hammer if Jackal58 didn't format his vote wrong rofl.
CAN PEOPLE PLEASE HOLD THEIR HORSES UNTIL WE GET SOME NUMBERS DOWN
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If you are confused then god damn unvote before some moron hammers. Look at risk.nuke go, there are plenty of those out there.
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I saw the same thing which was another reason I wanted to hold and check numbers.
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MeatlessTaco are you being deliberately obtuse? Don't you see what me and Paperscraps are saying? There is something up and there's a lot of data here, layabout never claimed scum like VisceraEyes did. You haven't been very impressive so calm down and let us do some numbers, surely you can wait a little?
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