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bkrow
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CatsnHats
United States199 Posts
On January 09 2012 11:49 Jitsu wrote: Mafia - Sheth Cats Blurry Next game.  I agree with you on Blurry (since I voted for him), but I sir am town. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
Sorry if i am rehashing old stuff i am just catching up still; i think we should be looking at: a) people who were hesitant to vote Sheth b) those who tried to offer alternate targets but once Sheth came up jumped on the "bandwagon" and c) the lurkers who make me angry | ||
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On January 09 2012 12:21 bkrow wrote: Cats what convinces you about Blurry being scum? I am reading through his filter and the scummiest thing i have come across is him advocating a no lynch on day 1 - but he seemed to go back on that idea later on. He also voted for Sheth straight up (from what i can see) and with such little KP it would be hard to see him doing that without some sort of indecision. Sorry if i am rehashing old stuff i am just catching up still; i think we should be looking at: a) people who were hesitant to vote Sheth b) those who tried to offer alternate targets but once Sheth came up jumped on the "bandwagon" and c) the lurkers who make me angryThose are places to start, but things like that aren't bonafide 100% scum tells. | ||
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CatsnHats
United States199 Posts
On January 08 2012 13:44 CatsnHats wrote: My target right now would be Blurry or AnxiousHippo, mainly because they are the most likely to respond at this point. Blurry has made 11 posts overall (an amount big enough to be remembered, but not enough to be picked apart like you), 1post yesterday, which is WIFOM filler and one post today, which was WIFOM filler. His big analysis post was 1-2 sentences on each player. Not enough content. Thoughts? And post #2: On January 09 2012 07:16 CatsnHats wrote: Admission of bandwaggoning. You can't claim you were suspicious of him if you didn't post anything. That statement means nothing except "I'm sheeping Prob's content." And what is this?I have a feeling you KNOW Sheth is going to flip green, and you are using this knowledge to throw suspicion on Probulous after that happens. And as I said in my other post you've really said nothing but WIFOM filler. You're playing exactly how I think a lurking mafia would play (making posts every once and a while, not committing in analysis, apologizing for not adding content, bandwagoning, etc). It seems like we are heading for a no-lynch, but I am not voting for Sheth because I think he's town. ##Vote: Blurry | ||
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bkrow
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I would love to hear from Paperscraps after he has caught up on the thread | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
How do we tell who is scum amongst the lurkers? We had Xeris (kronhjort), Gretorp (Paperscraps), Blurry and Hippo (Bkrow) all posting nothing that really identifies themselves as town. I am happy to aim for a lynch in one of these four. I highly doubt all remaining mafia were in there but at least one is. Xeris (kronhjort) Besides the case presented by Gonz against Xeris, Sheth's insistance that he is town is pretty damning. I still don't believe that Sheth had any real reason to believe Xeris was more town than Gretorp. He has played mafia with both of them but was certain that Xeris was REALLY town. Gretorp (Paperscraps) There is nothing to analyse here. Besides saying he will provide analysis and then didn't, we have nothing on him. By signing up to this game he was promising to post which he didn't so he wasn't really good at keeping promises. Doesn't mean he is mafia, or town. Hence nothing. Blurry Oh sheepy sheepy sheep. You would be in my sights if not for this post On January 05 2012 08:28 Blurry wrote:+ Show Spoiler + About me being inactive: Sorry,I've been out all day since I'm on vacation in Montreal, and while it says I'm from Switzerland I recently moved to USA (EST) and have neglected to change my profile because I'm a little bit homesick+lazy. Anyways: back to the game, 1: Cookiemaker AnxiousHippo raised a very good point about Cookiemakers most recent post in his stating that trust has been developing amongst certain townies without providing examples. There was no reason for him to say this other than to try and fluff up his posts. Right now he seems scummy to me. 2: Sheth Theres one post by him that caught my attention: Jitsu, we've played before and you probably know my scum read and I know your town read This for me could mean one of two things: A. A subtle claim to not being scum based on the logic that Jitsu would know immediately. Or B. I will be able to tell whether or not Jitsu is or is not scum. Other than this he has been aggressive in terms of trying to get people on the defensive (CatsnHats) which I like as holes will show in peoples stories. Right now I'm feeling like he would be town rather than scum but I think time will tell. 3: AnxiousHippo Cites his inexperience as a way out of having to provide much analysis but also hasn't said anything too scummy. I'm feeling neutral. 4: Cephiro Provided a lot of good points and has contributed a good deal to the discussion. I don't think think Mafia would be leading the discussion like he has been, especially at this level. Definitely leaning towards town on him. 5: Tunkeg Tries to get everybody to contribute which I like. Is very clear in his stance which is another good thing. Leaning towards town on him. 6: Jitsu I'm getting a town vibe from him as well as he asked for someones opinion on himself. This could however be a clever mafia play to try and discover where the holes in his play are. Leaning towards town as he has been pressuring people to contribute. On January 05 2012 08:51 Blurry wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Part 2: (taking a long time to write this) I know I originally wanted to not lynch somebody but the benefits of information make it a more appealing option and I feel like we have some solid candidates 7: Xeris Has contributed absolutely nothing other than his stance against a lynch today. No analysis or contribution. Leaning on Scum. 8: Gretorp Has also not contributed anything + no stance on any issue presented. Unless he posts something meaningful in the next day he will get my vote. Leaning heavily on scum. 9: Gonzaw Likes to pressure people and prod them for feedback. Also posted his thoughts and took a clear stance on issues. Leaning on town. 10: Me I haven't contributed much other than the Roleblocker thing but I will stand by that. If someone gets role blocked they should immediately say it. The more information the better, and it would be risky for a mafia to claim being role blocked if it gets revealed that there really isn't he is automatically implicated. So guys, if you get role blocked: make sure you tell us. 11: Probulous Another discussion leader. Has been active in contributing and putting pressure on people (catsnhats). Leaning on town for him. 12: CatsNHats Although he may have flip flopped positions early in the game I still feel like he is town as he has not shied away from speaking his mind on who he thinks may be scum. We should pressure him but my stance on him is neutral. Ugh... I don't feel like I added too much with that so I'll go back over everything and post my overall feeling for the game so far. This was pretty early in the thread and his town reads are Cephiro, Tunkeg, Jitsu, Gonzaw and myself. That is five people who are pretty much confirmed town in my eyes. He also notes Sheth's bad post and stands by his postition about announcing whether you have been role blocked. All of this is good. The problem is that since then he has gone off the rails. He doesn't post and when he does he sheeps people. He is my least likely candidate but I will be watching him like a hawk and will reread his filter again before night ends. Hippo (Bkrow) I originally had hippo pegged as a newbie. He asked obvious questions (roleblocking), explained my bad pun to Cephiro and specifically told the thread to move on from the no-lynch discussions. Unfortunately he had a terrible reason for voting for AKCT and then disapeared from the thread. Bk seems to have started well but unfortunately has to work hard to remove the suspicion from Hippo. In summary out of those I think Xeris (kronhjort) is the most likely scum but I cannot be sure. What do the rest of you think? | ||
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CatsnHats
United States199 Posts
On January 09 2012 12:49 bkrow wrote: To be honest, considering those posts i don't see the case against Blurry more convincing than the case against Gretorp (now replaced by Paperscraps) - either Gretorp is very busy or very bad at being scum. Neither of those 2 situations are beneficial for town; but he is the first one that really grabbed my attention as inactive and intentionally dodging questions. He even promised analysis and.. well yeah.. I would love to hear from Paperscraps after he has caught up on the thread Sounds alot like the guy you replaced, AnxiousHippo.... | ||
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Probulous
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I seriously doubt we will all be alive in the morning. So please post any analysis or ideas you may have before night ends. I will have another re-read (I should be able to quote this thing by now) and post my updated reads just before the day post. @Bk, good start now find us some scum  | ||
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CatsnHats
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CatsnHats
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), he's played very pro-town up to this point. He's really been on Blurry and Xeris, which I obviously like. And sure he ghosted your Sheth read, but I've been much more guilty of that offence so I can't hold it against him. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On January 09 2012 13:18 CatsnHats wrote: Sounds alot like the guy you replaced, AnxiousHippo.... I can't really speak for my predecessor but i think the fact that he got replaced illustrates his involvement with the game and provides an explanation for his inactivity. As for the dodging questions - well again, if he was inactive enough to get replaced then i doubt he was actively dodging questions - if he was, well then lol he is bad. I looked through Xeris' filter - all 3 (?) posts? Lurkers are particularly dangerous not only because they add nothing, but they are just so hard to read as there is nothing to go off. Also because this is a mini mafia, a mislynch on a lurker can do some damage. I say we place FoS on Xeris (his replacement) and at the very least it will give him a chance to explain himself. For now i see Xeris as a more viable target based on Sheth's comments - but then again, to come out in such defence of a particular person when you are scum is basically tying your fates, so this may have been Sheth's attempt to latch onto a townie and at least secure some result if he was lynched. | ||
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Probulous
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Paperscraps
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Glad to be here. I have been "semi" keeping up with the thread, but I will need to read through the filters to get a better read on people. I definitely plan on being more active than my predecessor.  I seem to be leaning a bit toward scum on blurry and xeris (kronhjort). I can't stay up too late tonight due to school in the morning. I plan on providing some analysis and reads tomorrow. | ||
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CatsnHats
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On January 09 2012 14:46 CatsnHats wrote: Yeah I think Sheth new he could take me down with him I've screwed myself over so bad with my wishy-washy save myself play. Smart play on his part. You're on the grid for a lot more reasons than bad wishy-washy save you played. | ||
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blubbdavid
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On January 10 2012 02:50 blubbdavid wrote: God, reading Mafia makes me paranoid. Why? | ||
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CatsnHats
United States199 Posts
On January 10 2012 02:50 blubbdavid wrote: God, reading Mafia makes me paranoid. You're not in this game, are you? | ||
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