I think you should vote me in obviously since I know I'm town. I feel like I have been singled out as scummy because of my lurkerish first day and also my late voting times, but these were things I had limited/no control over, and I've been fighting the suspicions on me since day 1. I feel like I have been trying hard to help town, and I urge you to filter me again and see that I'm town, and if not, post the stuff you think is scummy and I'll try to address it here, again.

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 03:38 GMT

#2662

@rad, I agree with jaj.

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 04:07 GMT

#2663

Greymis: "none of us are saying you are scum for being the "smartest""
I know, he only says I am scum.

risk.nuke:"You've been saying casc is scum for more then 1 day but you didn't manage to get him lynched and you didn't try very hard. Then you get unreasonably supermad when a townie gets lynched."
I think I made it pretty clear, that I was 50% mad at myself for not pushing hard enough. But yeah.
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Of course I am supermad that you think I am scum! I was probably right since day3 with my cascades thing, because I read the thread 2 times, one time each player individually and one time the whole thread to catch the situational specialities. I put work into this game and all I get is "you're scum." from a player that has done nothing so far.
From a player that requests medicprotect for himself and the scumgodfather night one.

You're case against me contains terrible logic. You leave out the obvious context of my actions, you leave out every other action. You are the one who picks out little things.

I didn't agree with radfields targets. However I generally respect his choices and I think he's a better player than me. Comprissent and Cwave were lynches I could only argue against that cascades is even scummier. Jitsu was shot and zeks never gave me the chance to defend him. There was some discussion going on about him in the night, but we never discussed him being shot. + I thought cascades was the obvious candidate for this at this point of time.
In the meantime, I trapped sheth with wifoming the watcherability at night. But okay, obviously scum bussing his teammate.

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 04:07 GMT

#2664

Where is the nightpost btw ??

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

December 27 2011 04:11 GMT

#2665

On December 24 2011 12:51 kitaman27 wrote:
I'll extend the next day cycle to 72 hours for Christmas.

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 04:17 GMT

#2666

hmm I don't think that we need more time, but I obviously cannot speak for all of us.

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 05:19 GMT

#2667

On December 14 2011 12:19 kitaman27 wrote:

Night One

Welcome to TL News at 10.

In our top story, Radfield has officially been elected as our new Mayor in a historic landslide victory. As top loser, ProfessorBadass has been elected Pardoner. We all hope they use their new leadership roles to bring stability to the town and end the times of chaos.

In other disturbing news, former TL News anchor and recently murdered Spiritual Leader GMarshal may not be who he seems. Our top reporter Cyber_Cheese (no relation to the recently murdered mayor Cyber_Cheese) is on the scene of GMarshal's former residence, uncovering horrifying details of a sinister plot. Hundreds of crazed individuals have been discovered locked in his basement, muttering incoherent phrases about friendship and tolerance. We will bring you up to the minute updates on this story as it progresses.

But first, let us bring you live to the daily execution in town square, now available in HD. Spaackle was dragged from his home shouting pleas of innocence. As their first act, the newly elected Mayor and Pardoner wraped a noose around his neck and kicked the stool from underneath him. I guess politics really is a deadly game.

+ Show Spoiler +

Spaackle the Politician has been lynched!

Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the Politician. Twice per game, you may buy target player's vote and dictate their day cycle and election cycle vote. The results of your action will not be reflected until the final vote count. You win with town.

You have 24 hours to submit all night actions. Please remeber to send them to both Cyber_Cheese and myself.

Wait a second!!! This role is pretty similar to TNTP role...

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 05:22 GMT

#2668

I was just thinking about how I don't like refallen as cascades scumbuddy and it suddenly came to me.

Refallen

452 Posts

December 27 2011 07:54 GMT

#2669

We need more time to determine who gets the second role deus. And I think you should vote me in for it if you're ambivalent on me and jaj because I have vet so I can survive 1kp.

Refallen

452 Posts

December 27 2011 08:43 GMT

#2670

And fwiw I think the final two scum are in the deus/risk.nuke/cascades group, if only because I believe the rest quite strongly town.

Radfield for obv reasons (roleblocked, none claimed)
TnTP mostly for his case defending me when he could easily have built up more pressure
Greymist for obv reasons
Jaj also seems more town than the upper three.

Refallen

452 Posts

December 27 2011 08:50 GMT

#2671

Sorry for the triple post, but with that in mind I much rather vote for me and jaj than for risk.nuke to office today.

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 10:18 GMT

#2672

can you post some reasons? Especially why risk or I seem scummy. You know you're digging your own grave there if you don't start to post a little bit better. We have one mislynch left. Risk and I would be two mislynches btw. I am pretty confident that risk is town right now. As long as cascades flips scum.

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 10:31 GMT

#2673

Comprissent (8): Radfield, Jitsu, evantrees, zeks, -zeks, TotallyNotTwoPeople, MrZentor, zeks, Refallen, jaj22

cascades (5): DEUS-ex-MAFIA, risk.nuke, Comprissent, GreYMisT, GiygaS

nyczbrandon (3): GreYMisT, Liquid`Sheth, Cwave, MrZentor, zeks, cascades, -MrZentor, -zeks, -GreYMisT
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How do you explain this for example. Risk and I were both on cascades at day3. I think we both were asleep already like 3-5 hours before the deadline. Do you think it's smart for scum to sacrifice one player at day3 when you just lost 2 good players in a row?
Do you think both risk and I could have bussed cascades from day3 on? Especially risk, do you think if he and cascades are scum, he would jump on my wagon against his last remaining teammate, when Radfield presents another target?
Or do you think Risk and I are scum together? Really? We're yelling at each other for the whole time? I want to lynch him if cascades flips green, I hope you take that into account...
I have so many questions, your theory is so strange. I think cascades posted something in your scumQT that you should try to lynch me. But you didn't talk about who could be his scumbuddy. You just saw risks posts in the thread and you thought "hey this guy could be the one"

risk.nuke

Sweden2825 Posts

December 27 2011 13:27 GMT

#2674

Okey, saving lynch and scum discussions for after casc flips. Who do we elect with me today and who gets which position and why?

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 13:37 GMT

#2675

read the thread.

Refallen

452 Posts

December 27 2011 14:15 GMT

#2676

It's not so much that I think you're scum more so the fact that I have 3 confirmed town reads on rad TnTP and greymist and between you and jaj jaj looks slightly better right now. Obviously if cascades flips red that might change, but I feel strongly that these three players (and me) are definitely town.

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 14:40 GMT

#2677

you "feel" it? Can you please commentate a little bit more detailed especially why TNTP is tonw...?

Refallen

452 Posts

December 27 2011 14:58 GMT

#2678

Like I said, the most striking things that have struck me in TnTPs play are
1. How he defended me, a really easy bandwagon lynch target, who by the way, is hard for mafia to kill at night because I'm a vet.
2. His consistently solid reasonings and posts throughout the games.

I am confused at why you picked TnTP here deus, do you not think he is town?

DEUS-ex-MAFIA

Vatican City State258 Posts

December 27 2011 15:46 GMT

#2679

more reasons. better reasons. Quotes of the solid reasons and posts. I don't want to hear blablabla. I want you to prove what you say.

Refallen

452 Posts

December 27 2011 16:03 GMT

#2680

I've been posting from my phone the last couple of days as I'm overseas. It is very inconvenient for me to be quoting posts and filters. However I hardly think that any more pointing out of TnTPs towniness is needed, seeing as how it has already been done a couple of times (including by you). Similarly, you've dodged my question; why are you focusing on TnTP in my case? Are you seriously saying that you suddenly had doubts that he's town?

(will be the last post I make for awhile, heading to bed over here in Taiwan. Will check thread briefly tomorrow morning, hopefully will have time to analyse & post)

To end off, I'm aware that I have provided an avenue for people to attack me as scummy by posting the list earlier (something I need to fix in my upcoming games, why do people think I'm scum when I'm trying to actively post as town?) I could probably have done better as scum by just not posting for the rest of the day so as not to attract too much attention to myself, ala what everyone else is doing, but I chose to throw my thoughts out there and put myself in the spotlight, so to speak. I hope you all can identify this clearly as town like behaviour.