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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 27 2011 16:11 GMT
#2681
sorry, that is not logic at all. If you'd stop posting, I would have pushed for your lynch tomorrow.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 27 2011 20:20 GMT
#2682
Defending myself seems pretty pointless effort but I will do real comprehensive one for town.

On December 27 2011 06:19 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
okay, just finished the obligatory phonecall with my gf:

Cascadees:

"OT: @Sheth, No my nick comes from cascades as in waterfall. I did look up the juggling term you mentioned. I can do basic 3 ball cascades though, so hey, I got a new origin story next time someone asks."
mhm...

How is this a tell? hmph..

"Dropbear: Has made one scummy post. That wasn't enough for Arc to vote him, but he is also a lurker. Needs to defend himself
ProfBadass: Made a post for election and disappeared. Well he is a vet, so I would give him more leeway. For now."

commentating on the scumvets. But he commentates the behaviour of 5 already confirmed (due death) townies in the same post. At this point of time several people called out both scumvets already, so it's nothing new etc.

Yes my fault that they looked scummy and they were valid lynch targets later on.

"Some people were questioing about my late vote on spaackle. I was on the fence about spaackle. I had seen Radfield and ProfBadass push against him. I know he made a "slip". However, nothing else stood out as scummy enough. Sure, people pointed out holes in his analysis. Still, I felt his posts on the election was good. None of this RNG bullshit."
defending his vote.

"Now spaackle has turned up innocent, and a blue too. If I was to redo my lynch, would I lynch spaackle again? The answer is yes." - I think I already posted this line of casc earlier. This strong defense of his mislynchvote isn't necessary at this point. Noone accused especially him for the mislynch.

People were complaining about late town votes for the mislynch. I can't speak for all of town, so I will speak for myself.

"Who do you and Deus think should have been in office then? ProfessorBadass was the only vet that was online. I don't think the people who voted in ProfBadass were at fault."

Answer the question without hindsight

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 22:17 cascades wrote:
On December 15 2011 21:06 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
On December 15 2011 19:04 cascades wrote:
Let's hope mafia helps kill all the vets for us. =)


why?


joke?
joke question.


I also already posted this one. I still don't understand his joke. He didn't explain it to me.

Like Cwave was complaining about roles all going to vets and the rest of newbies not getting some. Context man context.

"Radfield: Has been active and has good content in posts, being helpful. Based on posts alone, I think he is most likely of all the vets to be townie.
Arc: Very good activity. Has to elaborate and give reasoning for most posts though. "Cos I say so" doesn't cut it.
Deus: He used to post simple one-liners. That doesn't help us much. He has put in more effort in his posts since then though.
ProfBad: Bursts of activity. While he was here, he was active in helping find scum. Needs to be more involved though so that we can get something done.
Dropbear/bumatlarge: Bad activity. Only came out to respond when accused. That would be really suspicious if it wasn't for the fact he got replaced, so there's somewhat a reason for that activity. Neverthless, I will be watching his replacement closely."

His thoughts on the vets.: First of all, I think it's astounding how he purposeful picks out the players that are actually considered to be vets, although noone of these vets made a list of the vets in the thread.
Somewhere he picked up these informations about the players and I strongly doubt that he read back into our last games and tries to see who played how many games. Did he really look whether me, supersoft, is a vet?

I think someone made up that list in their scumQT.

These are only the players who ran for campaign and got commented on by others. Do your research.

"I will wait for ProfBad to defend himself before making final judgement."
yeah sure. Wait for the defense and see how the general atmosphere develops...

Wait for the defence and see how guilty ProfBad was. Too hard a concept for Mr 95%-scum

After this post and Curus failed defense, he starts yelling at curu and being really upset that curu is such a disappointing scumplayer lol. Townmotivation to rage at a failurescum? Noneexistant.

I raged at Eriandor. Good misrepresentation. Sorry if raging at selfish pricks is disallowed.

After Greymist claimed medic:
"As a matter of principle, I don't like Greymist's defence. He said that he is not remaining tight lipped, but I don't see him contributing anything new for town - he's just repeating his previous scumtells. Evantrees and I have already posted a refutation, so I suggest you guys go look at that instead of trying to jump on an invalid bandwagon."
- I think he didnt realize the impact of this claim. With no counterclaim greymist was confirmed town.

Read the rest of that post. I think you didnt realise how not to cherrypick facts.

"At last Deus actually gives his own opinion instead of fishing for others! Applause for his first real "contribution".
You are going to have to do better than that I am afraid. I don't even know what is behind town's high regard for you. Definitely artificial. All you have done so far is to jump on bandwagons, such as trying to claim credit for Greymist's lynch. You were 95% sure then.

Good night."

attacks me when I call him out the first time. He avoids the direct discussion by leaving.
Of course I was 95% sure then 95% not 100%! He played strange, the medicclaim saved his ass and explained parts of his defensive behaviour.
(Hey Greymist. Now that your medicpowers are gone, you have no reason to hide your opinion anymore... just saying)

You attack me after I call you out. Lol attack on my timezone! What discussion? Your CASCADES IS SCUM posts? Have to respond with AM NOT.


I wont commentate on the rest. All he does is accusing me for little reason. He experiences support by risk.nuke. I don't know how to file their alliance against me.

General thoughts:
He basically never explained anything and he never defended himself. He seems to just not care about the townvictory. Scum sacrifices a player from time to time. Town never sacrifices a player. It's just stupid.

I defended myself when Greymist targeted me. Great job on reading what you want to read. I can't defend myself against your LOL SCUM accusations. Now you have a half decent case I am responding. It is good for town to trade 1 for 1. You are scum. Good trade!


I don't want to die to make someone look scummier I accused earlier. Since I cannot know his alignment for sure, my death won't help the others at all. Townies are wrong all the time and that's no reaon to kill them.

Therefor it's not in towns best interest to accuse the one who accuses you, just because he does.
These emotional OMGUS doesn't convince the others and is just bad play.

I didn't accuse you because you accused me, I accused you cos your filter looked like shit. Attempting to discredit me this way is disingenuous. Real copycat.



As for Deus being town.....
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...
......
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For example, him trying to wifom watcher doesn't do shit. He had to watch Radfield, no wifom can be allowed there. Else he can watch mafia sacrifice someone under heavy suspicion for Radfield and not catch them cos he wasn't watching. (PUN INTENDED) . Furthermore, Radfield as medic can wifom already and much better and he's trying to claim credit for that. Frustatingly, no one else has brought this point up.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 27 2011 20:39 GMT
#2683
Scum should be trying to keep their mouth shut so as to not give away information. Doubt people will care. Sadly, now that I forced Deus to post some non non-sense, I am getting lynched. The irony.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#2684
"For example, him trying to wifom watcher doesn't do shit. He had to watch Radfield, no wifom can be allowed there."

trapped sheth with that action: gg
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 21:48 GMT
#2685
Sorry for the afkness, was traveling back after spending Christmas with the family. Assuming the game is still going, I will also be traveling on new year's eve and new year's day. The other half of this hydra is also somewhat available again, and is getting caught up on the thread, but he said he won't have time to read it all before the deadline today, so no second opinion on the election/lynch vote from him today :-(

On the topic of the actual game itself...
Voting risk.nuke as I trust him more than I trust ja. Either way though, whoever passes on the plan better damn well say what it is, and whoever then gets to pick whether or not to enact it better say as well. I would like the rest of us to be consulted on which plan to pass on as well, although I realize we could be lied to on this. God help you two if you don't claim the same thing. I think the odds of us having at least one scum in office is too high to let them act at their own discretion tonight.

@Deus
You think I'm scum now? Come at me bro. I'd love to hear whatever "reasoning" you might have.
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 27 2011 21:59 GMT
#2686
"@Deus
You think I'm scum now? Come at me bro. I'd love to hear whatever "reasoning" you might have."

ah you're such an idiot. It's nothing personal if I think about the possibility that you might be scum.
I take every circumstance into consideration and I try to figure out how to win this.
by the way. I already delivered a reason that makes you suspicious but I didn't say your scum yet.
If you read correctly you can see that very clearly.

I hate to deal with this kind of stupidity and lazyness. This will be my last game for a while.
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 22:46 GMT
#2687
On December 28 2011 06:59 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
"@Deus
You think I'm scum now? Come at me bro. I'd love to hear whatever "reasoning" you might have."

ah you're such an idiot. It's nothing personal if I think about the possibility that you might be scum.
I take every circumstance into consideration and I try to figure out how to win this.
by the way. I already delivered a reason that makes you suspicious but I didn't say your scum yet.
If you read correctly you can see that very clearly.

I hate to deal with this kind of stupidity and lazyness. This will be my last game for a while.

I can quote at least 5 questions of mine you have failed to answer during this game, and at least 3 instances of you being confused due to not reading things already stated in the thread. You don't get to bitch about "lazyness".

If your reason is because of that role you claim is "pretty similar" to mine, let's review some things.
My role is every cycle, that role is two shot.
My role is for elections only, that role is for election and lynch.
My role is an anonymous vote, that role moves someone else's vote.
Similar: both are only reflected in final tally, both are related to voting.
But I don't see how any of that is relevant in the slightest or how it is a reason for finding me suspicious.

Last time you called me scum you posted this as reasoning and ignored every request I made for more details:
2. I filtered you guys and you did nothing this game. No real opinion given on anything axcept risk, greymist and zentor. These players have been discussed several times and nearly everyone gave an opinion. And you only repeated thing that have already been said.
So no, explain yourself more than that lazy as fuck post you made complaining about me being lazy. I am thoroughly tired of your bullshit.

As for your claim that you never called me scum, while it is true you never directly did so, but...
On December 27 2011 14:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
I was just thinking about how I don't like refallen as cascades scumbuddy and it suddenly came to me.
You are definitely implying that you think I am scum along with cascades here, as this post was right after the quote about the roles.

On December 26 2011 07:59 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
it's obvious btw. If jaj is innocent, tntp is the next.
You are voting for jaj to be elected, so are you voting for someone you think is scum, or do you think I am scum? Whichever it is, I want a damn good explanation for it.
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 27 2011 22:54 GMT
#2688
On December 26 2011 07:59 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
it's obvious btw. If jaj is innocent, tntp is the next.

______________________________________


was before I did my big analysis of this game.

this game is getting way too personal. I want to be replaced please. I have no fun to play with you guys anymore.
If radfield is town, thanks for playing with me. I think you're the only one who folloed the action lately
If scum, thanks you really played well.

bye.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 27 2011 22:58 GMT
#2689
On December 28 2011 07:54 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
On December 26 2011 07:59 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
it's obvious btw. If jaj is innocent, tntp is the next.

______________________________________


was before I did my big analysis of this game.

this game is getting way too personal. I want to be replaced please. I have no fun to play with you guys anymore.
If radfield is town, thanks for playing with me. I think you're the only one who folloed the action lately
If scum, thanks you really played well.

bye.


You're the one making it personal, lol.
Also i thought replacements dont happen after day3. It would have too much of an impact on the game to replace you out now.

Im seriously trying to figure out what is causing you to flip out so badly. We are lynching cascades who you think is scum.
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jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
December 27 2011 23:04 GMT
#2690
The post I was going to write now feels like pissing into a shitstorm, so I'll stick to the essentials.

On elections:
I don't think it matters much who gets the second election place as if they don't share the plans openly, they're just going to get lynched tomorrow. What might get ugly is if mafia can use that candidate-withdrawal power a third time, but that stuff happens after my bedtime anyway.

@TNTP: Remember to make your extra vote.
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 23:07 GMT
#2691
On December 28 2011 08:04 jaj22 wrote:
The post I was going to write now feels like pissing into a shitstorm, so I'll stick to the essentials.

On elections:
I don't think it matters much who gets the second election place as if they don't share the plans openly, they're just going to get lynched tomorrow. What might get ugly is if mafia can use that candidate-withdrawal power a third time, but that stuff happens after my bedtime anyway.

@TNTP: Remember to make your extra vote.

Already sent it in.
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 27 2011 23:12 GMT
#2692
It depends entirely on what the two plans are if we will discuss them openly or not. It will have to be decided by the MA.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 23:15 GMT
#2693
@jaj22
What's your opinion of deus?
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 27 2011 23:19 GMT
#2694
Might as well see if we can get some extra info...
Can you clarify whether the secret ballot was a player ability or a non-player-specific game-mechanic?
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
December 27 2011 23:36 GMT
#2695
On December 28 2011 08:19 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Might as well see if we can get some extra info...
Can you clarify whether the secret ballot was a player ability or a non-player-specific game-mechanic?

Not until the post game.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#2696
On December 28 2011 07:54 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
On December 26 2011 07:59 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
it's obvious btw. If jaj is innocent, tntp is the next.

______________________________________


was before I did my big analysis of this game.

this game is getting way too personal. I want to be replaced please. I have no fun to play with you guys anymore.
If radfield is town, thanks for playing with me. I think you're the only one who folloed the action lately
If scum, thanks you really played well.

bye.



I'm town dude, and I've felt you played a very strong late game. But you do seems to be really getting upset at stuff. Lets just lynch cascades, then move on from there. I really appreciate the time you've been putting into this game, and it is far more time than I have been sparing.

Don't quit now.
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 03:10 GMT
#2697
Fliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 03:16:44
December 28 2011 03:11 GMT
#2698
[image loading]

Night Five


Joy to the world the scum is dead!
They barbecued his head!
What happened to her body?
We flushed it down the potty
And 'round and 'round it goes
And 'round and 'round it... goes...


cascades the mafia Underboss has been lynched!

Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the mafia Underboss. Once per game you can enact a secret ballot for the following election and lynch. All votes are to be pm'd to the host. The final vote count will not be revealed. You win with mafia!


risk.nuke has been elected the Commander-in-Chief
jaj22 has been elected the Military Adviser

You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 03:15 GMT
#2699
On December 28 2011 12:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Day Five Final Tally:

risk.nuke (5): GreYMisT, Radfield, cascades, Refallen, -Refallen, TotallyNotTwoPeople, jaj22

jaj22 (3): DEUS-ex-MAFIA, Refallen, risk.nuke

Refallen (1):

Proof of my anonymous election voting. I think you all should be able to figure out where my extra vote went.
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#2700
that confirms tntp as town, since all mafia powers are now accounted for.
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