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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
On December 27 2011 04:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: "@Deus: I don't think I'll ever be happy with your explanation but your list looks solid so let's roll with it for the moment. Electing you as police chief rather than prankster is zero-risk anyway." cool. He's electing me despite he accused me since he joined the game. thank you. There was nothing you could do to harm town in the Police Chief position, hence "zero-risk". In fact, because it made you ineligible for later elections, it was if anything a risk-reduction. Even if I had a strong scum read on you, I'd still have voted for you. For what it's worth, I had a null read at worst on you overall despite the ProfBA defense. I'm not inclined to give people a scum read just on one thing that doesn't make sense to me, as a lot of people do stuff that doesn't make sense to me. The rest of your play looked good. On December 27 2011 04:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: "Nah, that'd make no sense given that most people have a town read on him." huh change of mind. okay... This is from this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12847258 It's just an explanation of why Police Chief was zero-risk, even if you were scum. Are you disputing that most players had a town read on you at the time? My own opinion of you was not important to the point. Marserblood was indefensible, and would no doubt have been added to the long line of newbie town corpses if he'd stayed in the game. Looking into your other stuff now. I need to re-read all these filters anyway. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
Cascadees: "OT: @Sheth, No my nick comes from cascades as in waterfall. I did look up the juggling term you mentioned. I can do basic 3 ball cascades though, so hey, I got a new origin story next time someone asks." mhm... "Dropbear: Has made one scummy post. That wasn't enough for Arc to vote him, but he is also a lurker. Needs to defend himself ProfBadass: Made a post for election and disappeared. Well he is a vet, so I would give him more leeway. For now." commentating on the scumvets. But he commentates the behaviour of 5 already confirmed (due death) townies in the same post. At this point of time several people called out both scumvets already, so it's nothing new etc. "Some people were questioing about my late vote on spaackle. I was on the fence about spaackle. I had seen Radfield and ProfBadass push against him. I know he made a "slip". However, nothing else stood out as scummy enough. Sure, people pointed out holes in his analysis. Still, I felt his posts on the election was good. None of this RNG bullshit." defending his vote. "Now spaackle has turned up innocent, and a blue too. If I was to redo my lynch, would I lynch spaackle again? The answer is yes." - I think I already posted this line of casc earlier. This strong defense of his mislynchvote isn't necessary at this point. Noone accused especially him for the mislynch. "Who do you and Deus think should have been in office then? ProfessorBadass was the only vet that was online. I don't think the people who voted in ProfBadass were at fault." I also already posted this one. I still don't understand his joke. He didn't explain it to me. "Radfield: Has been active and has good content in posts, being helpful. Based on posts alone, I think he is most likely of all the vets to be townie. Arc: Very good activity. Has to elaborate and give reasoning for most posts though. "Cos I say so" doesn't cut it. Deus: He used to post simple one-liners. That doesn't help us much. He has put in more effort in his posts since then though. ProfBad: Bursts of activity. While he was here, he was active in helping find scum. Needs to be more involved though so that we can get something done. Dropbear/bumatlarge: Bad activity. Only came out to respond when accused. That would be really suspicious if it wasn't for the fact he got replaced, so there's somewhat a reason for that activity. Neverthless, I will be watching his replacement closely." His thoughts on the vets.: First of all, I think it's astounding how he purposeful picks out the players that are actually considered to be vets, although noone of these vets made a list of the vets in the thread. Somewhere he picked up these informations about the players and I strongly doubt that he read back into our last games and tries to see who played how many games. Did he really look whether me, supersoft, is a vet? I think someone made up that list in their scumQT. "I will wait for ProfBad to defend himself before making final judgement." yeah sure. Wait for the defense and see how the general atmosphere develops... After this post and Curus failed defense, he starts yelling at curu and being really upset that curu is such a disappointing scumplayer lol. Townmotivation to rage at a failurescum? Noneexistant. After Greymist claimed medic: "As a matter of principle, I don't like Greymist's defence. He said that he is not remaining tight lipped, but I don't see him contributing anything new for town - he's just repeating his previous scumtells. Evantrees and I have already posted a refutation, so I suggest you guys go look at that instead of trying to jump on an invalid bandwagon." - I think he didnt realize the impact of this claim. With no counterclaim greymist was confirmed town. "At last Deus actually gives his own opinion instead of fishing for others! Applause for his first real "contribution". You are going to have to do better than that I am afraid. I don't even know what is behind town's high regard for you. Definitely artificial. All you have done so far is to jump on bandwagons, such as trying to claim credit for Greymist's lynch. You were 95% sure then. Good night." attacks me when I call him out the first time. He avoids the direct discussion by leaving. Of course I was 95% sure then 95% not 100%! He played strange, the medicclaim saved his ass and explained parts of his defensive behaviour. (Hey Greymist. Now that your medicpowers are gone, you have no reason to hide your opinion anymore... just saying) I wont commentate on the rest. All he does is accusing me for little reason. He experiences support by risk.nuke. I don't know how to file their alliance against me. General thoughts: He basically never explained anything and he never defended himself. He seems to just not care about the townvictory. Scum sacrifices a player from time to time. Town never sacrifices a player. It's just stupid. I don't want to die to make someone look scummier I accused earlier. Since I cannot know his alignment for sure, my death won't help the others at all. Townies are wrong all the time and that's no reaon to kill them. Therefor it's not in towns best interest to accuse the one who accuses you, just because he does. These emotional OMGUS doesn't convince the others and is just bad play. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Gone for most of today, but I'll take a look at everyone again when I get back to business. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
risk is already preparing that scenario. I can see that possibility and I want to prevent any chance that we fail from here. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
But I want to be prepared. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 27 2011 07:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: The chances for this scenario: ± 2,5% But I want to be prepared. 97,5% that cascades is scum and my summary+explanation of my suspicion isn't that important. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
"was mostly just things picked out of context to make me look bad" put them back into the context and prove your theory that I want to make you look bad. Your play sucks. The only thing that makes me believe that you are town is the fact that it really seems that you believe that too. if cascades flips red, I think refallen is the man of choice. (right now) | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
I didn't push him for three reasons. He is niceguy sheth, I ment what I said. He comes here to play mafia with us and we lynch him day 1. I thought I might be giving him more attention then the rest since he was sheth and in mafia if you look you often find (Tunl) Also he reminded me of myself in my first mafia forum game as townie. And I did some scummy stuff, it's tough the first time. Overtime my read on him went from beeing scummy to beeing probably-townie to beeing scummy to beeing unknown/leaning scum at the time he got shot. Anyway do you really think a scum would make reason like that up to protect his fellow scum, especially since I had already asked for medicprotection for dropbear which would be stupid enough of a scum to do. Scum doesn't want to defend eachother unless they can do it with valid reasons that won't make either look suspicious should 1 of them flip. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
And this is something that's really getting on my nerves. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
I'm not accusing you of beeing right, I'm accusing you of bussing and under these very suspicious circumstances a bus seems more then likely and you're telling me I'm not allowed to suspect that. With your all over the place playstyle? You change suspects all the time during the same day with no new information acting like this. + Show Spoiler + You're idiots, these 2 are obviously scum, I don't need a reason they are obviously scum. Wait nvm. These are the suspicious people, what? you can't see why, are you dumb it's so obvious? Hmm, no now that I think about it these are the scum. Add to that last page Casc suddenly re-emerged and instead of defending himself he accuses you of beeing scum and swiftly disapears again. Eh, wat? It sounds to me that he were told to say that. This is if he is red. If he is green I guess it was probably just one last omgus post but I don't think that very likely all. | ||
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Refallen
452 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I think Refallen and jaj are our only actual options. I really am not sure which one to lean towards. Jaj seems more pro-town from his posting, refallen has claimed veteren in a setup which includes no other self-defensive roles, a 2-shot medic, and an elected 2-shot medic. However, we also had two elected roles with a bodyguard, and 1 elected role that was immune for 1 night. I'm really not sure which one is the better bet, but I'm leaning jaj at the moment. | ||
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