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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#2701
Okey that settles the ballot question. Radfield do you think my bus theory is imagination or anything to consider? Either way I don't want to lynch deus today I just want to hear your thoughts on it and on the facts that you think supports it or stands against it.

@Kita it was Military Advisor.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 28 2011 03:24 GMT
#2702
On December 28 2011 12:21 risk.nuke wrote:
@Kita it was Military Advisor.


Hmm?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 28 2011 03:27 GMT
#2703
nvm you fixed it. You had typed commander.

I agree TnTp is safe. I'm not sold on refallens veteran claim. Both the fact that I'm not sure a veteran would fit in into this setup, then again I'm not the most experienced with forum games, I also for example wouldn't really think a gf would fit into this setup with no dt. I'm going to go to sleep soon but tomorrow I'll put refallen under the magnifying glass.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 28 2011 04:01 GMT
#2704
On December 28 2011 12:21 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey that settles the ballot question. Radfield do you think my bus theory is imagination or anything to consider? Either way I don't want to lynch deus today I just want to hear your thoughts on it and on the facts that you think supports it or stands against it.

@Kita it was Military Advisor.


I think it's very unlikely that supersoft has been bussing cascades for three days. Far more likely is jaj or refallen flipping scum.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 28 2011 04:02 GMT
#2705
Risk mafia were already bussing cascades a while back, See Sheth's filter and him saying that he wanted to lynch cascades before he died. I would personally look for people who soft defended cascades by shifting blame onto another.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 04:10 GMT
#2706
On December 28 2011 13:02 GreYMisT wrote:
Risk mafia were already bussing cascades a while back, See Sheth's filter and him saying that he wanted to lynch cascades before he died. I would personally look for people who soft defended cascades by shifting blame onto another.

Check out jaj then. He allegedly voted for cascades during the secret ballot, but who knows if he really did...
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 28 2011 04:15 GMT
#2707
So reread jaj with cascades as scum in mind, and came across this post.

On December 20 2011 23:20 jaj22 wrote:
Comprissent gets a spoiler for being long:
+ Show Spoiler +

Sole attempt at analysis is on night kills. Complains about other people's analysis being useless:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12775265
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12789217

Comprissent is also adamant about not lynching lurkers:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12714663
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12728076
Which is convenient given his minimal contribution. Unnecessary "I'm town, really" comment on the end there too. For what it's worth, Hassybaby/Bluelightz lurked through the last newbie mini and turned out to be scum.

Likes talking about elections, power roles and policy. Defends himself but apparently doesn't like scumhunting. Showed interest in looking into MarserBlood and Nisani/VE's filters three days ago, played LoL instead.

Claimed to have his last exam today, so hopefully he'll step up and post some analysis before the lynch. Scum read until then.

Cwave: Filter is a bit lightweight, but he's happy to give reads and stick with them. Town read for now.

nyczbrandon:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 11:48 nyczbrandon wrote:
Doing bare minimum makes me seem like scum?

Yes, yes it does. Taking four days to eventually post the first part of an analysis you promised is... well, I'm not even sure how you got away with it. Post more.

evantrees: Posts a lot about elections, next to nothing about scum. How did we get to day 3 with people still doing this? Getting a read out of this filter is hopeless.

cascades:
Not many posts, but relatively juicy ones. This post interested me:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12795425
Just reads as really angry to me. Sure, if you have a strong distaste for veterans playing lazy/arrogant (which would be consistent with the rest of his filter), you'd be facepalming pretty hard at the ProfBA fold, but a mafia lynch is a mafia lynch. Maybe I just can't comprehend the true depths of veteran-hate.



Her he is posting his scumreads. however if you look at the cascades topic, all it is is just a personality analysis, there is nothing about him being scum listed here. All it says is he is playing angry and doesnt like the vets. he does not say whether or not he thinks cascades is scum or town or what.


The second point I would like to make is the fact that he was here when my wagon was building, however he mentioned nothing about it. no attacks onto me, no defense of me.


Both these things add up poorly in my eyes. Ill reread again and post more analysis before the night is up.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 28 2011 07:10 GMT
#2708
Shouldn't the military adviser be posting the two scenarios for his role now?
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 07:14 GMT
#2709
On December 28 2011 16:10 Refallen wrote:
Shouldn't the military adviser be posting the two scenarios for his role now?

He has never posted between 10:00 and 21:00 TL time during this game.
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
December 28 2011 14:58 GMT
#2710
On December 28 2011 13:15 GreYMisT wrote:
So reread jaj with cascades as scum in mind, and came across this post.

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 23:20 jaj22 wrote:
Comprissent gets a spoiler for being long:
+ Show Spoiler +

Sole attempt at analysis is on night kills. Complains about other people's analysis being useless:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12775265
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12789217

Comprissent is also adamant about not lynching lurkers:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12714663
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12728076
Which is convenient given his minimal contribution. Unnecessary "I'm town, really" comment on the end there too. For what it's worth, Hassybaby/Bluelightz lurked through the last newbie mini and turned out to be scum.

Likes talking about elections, power roles and policy. Defends himself but apparently doesn't like scumhunting. Showed interest in looking into MarserBlood and Nisani/VE's filters three days ago, played LoL instead.

Claimed to have his last exam today, so hopefully he'll step up and post some analysis before the lynch. Scum read until then.

Cwave: Filter is a bit lightweight, but he's happy to give reads and stick with them. Town read for now.

nyczbrandon:
On December 16 2011 11:48 nyczbrandon wrote:
Doing bare minimum makes me seem like scum?

Yes, yes it does. Taking four days to eventually post the first part of an analysis you promised is... well, I'm not even sure how you got away with it. Post more.

evantrees: Posts a lot about elections, next to nothing about scum. How did we get to day 3 with people still doing this? Getting a read out of this filter is hopeless.

cascades:
Not many posts, but relatively juicy ones. This post interested me:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12795425
Just reads as really angry to me. Sure, if you have a strong distaste for veterans playing lazy/arrogant (which would be consistent with the rest of his filter), you'd be facepalming pretty hard at the ProfBA fold, but a mafia lynch is a mafia lynch. Maybe I just can't comprehend the true depths of veteran-hate.


Her he is posting his scumreads. however if you look at the cascades topic, all it is is just a personality analysis, there is nothing about him being scum listed here. All it says is he is playing angry and doesnt like the vets. he does not say whether or not he thinks cascades is scum or town or what.

No, that's not all that it's saying. It's highlighting a possible scumtell despite Cascades' apparent personality. I wasn't very confident in it so I was really hoping that other people would give their opinion after I highlighted it. I suppose I should have been more aggressive with my wording.


The second point I would like to make is the fact that he was here when my wagon was building, however he mentioned nothing about it. no attacks onto me, no defense of me.

Because I was still busy on the other filters. By the time I got to the Greymist question, you'd already roleclaimed. I imagine I'd have prioritised your filter if it'd been anywhere near the end of the day, but as it was I was just processing Deus's questions in order.


Anyway, I don't think there's much information in the military campaigns that could be of use to scum nightkills, so I'll paraphrase them here:

Campaign #1: Cause a double lynch in the next cycle.
Campaign #2: Reveal identities of all third party players.

#1 is the obvious choice given the number of players remaining if we don't think there are really any third parties (we get three lynches rather than two before the end of the game).

#2 is worrying me because both TNTP and Radfield are plausible third parties.

TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 17:06 GMT
#2711
We clearly have no serial killers, so if there are any 3rd parties, I would assume it is a survivor. The only person that makes sense for that is Refallen. But survivors can win with town anyway, so might as well enact campaign number 1.
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
TotallyNotTwoPeople
Profile Joined December 2011
United States160 Posts
December 28 2011 17:12 GMT
#2712
On December 28 2011 23:58 jaj22 wrote:
Anyway, I don't think there's much information in the military campaigns that could be of use to scum nightkills, so I'll paraphrase them here:

Campaign #1: Cause a double lynch in the next cycle.
Campaign #2: Reveal identities of all third party players.

#1 is the obvious choice given the number of players remaining if we don't think there are really any third parties (we get three lynches rather than two before the end of the game).

#2 is worrying me because both TNTP and Radfield are plausible third parties.

...a double-voter with no kp is a plausible third party to you?
Quod nescimus soli, una scimus
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
December 28 2011 17:35 GMT
#2713
I've never read any games with third parties so I honestly have no idea how they're supposed to work. Up until now I never considered the possibility. I assume what you're saying is that if there are any third parties, then they're not dangerous?

If that's true, I'll just go with option #1.

GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 28 2011 19:42 GMT
#2714
even though survivors can win with the town, they have the capability to screw us over immensly. see MLP mafia and tntked for that one.

However because there is obviously no serial killer, and we are in a good enough position that the survivor (if thats what it is) would want to win with town anyway. I would say option 1 as well, as long as we are confident in the two people we want to lynch.
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jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
December 28 2011 20:31 GMT
#2715
Oh hey, Erandorr actually posted a bit in MLP. Also tntked did have an extra vote power

Mailed in option #1 anyway. The PM says I'm supposed to submit it as soon as possible, so this was already a stretch.

risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 02:00 GMT
#2716
I was gone the entire day for a friends birthday, I actually got quite worried I wouldn't be able to get home on time. My second abillity is I can give two people body armor and make them (I can use it on myself and I probably will) veterans for the rest of the game. I'm going to use it on one of my strongest townreads. Sorry no double lynch, I'm not scum don't lynch me.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 02:05 GMT
#2717
Why I didn't use double lynch is because I don't like the way there were almost no discussion about the third party reveal which I thought was really good because we can't deduct the possibility of a SK despite what you say and even if it didn't reveal a sk it could reveal 1-2 townfriendly role that would let us eliminate them from the scum circle and by that increase our chance to hit scum. I think making confirmed townies unkillable is the better option.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 29 2011 02:06 GMT
#2718
you think there might be an SK in a game where all kp has been accounted for?
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 02:10 GMT
#2719
SK might just have a limited amount of kills or becomes sk first when all mafia are dead. Things like that.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 29 2011 02:14 GMT
#2720
On December 29 2011 11:05 risk.nuke wrote:
Why I didn't use double lynch is because I don't like the way there were almost no discussion about the third party reveal which I thought was really good because we can't deduct the possibility of a SK despite what you say and even if it didn't reveal a sk it could reveal 1-2 townfriendly role that would let us eliminate them from the scum circle and by that increase our chance to hit scum. I think making confirmed townies unkillable is the better option.


Im having a hard time understanding what you said here. your saying that you prefered the 3rd party reveal, but it is bad because it could out townfriendly roles?
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