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holy fuck lol
palmar is intransigent. his ego is so astronomically large that my pressure on day 1 for him being totally horrible at this game leads him to blindly, persistently, and without merit or logic, tunnel the fuck out of me and manage to get sheeps galore onto it.
his argument, literally his argument right now, is "we do not have time to vote someone else, therefore kill annul."
yes you do lol. there are 8 people not on me right now. with these people revoting AND palmar revoting, that is majority on somewhere else. but palmar's head is so massive he won't even consider this.
stop sheeping him. i have shown consistently that i have logic on my side and he does not. he has lied all game and tunneled me all game. what contributions has he made other than fucking vader up and then doing similar shit to me by way of a persistent aggression without merit?
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lol palmar saying i am playing suboptimally for town
what about you lol
your latest point is "i didnt shoot you, therefore im red?" do you have no counter to the four scenarios i posted about before and my analysis of the EV for each?
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i am fine with redff. i would rather it be drazerk but i suspect it will come down to "annul or X" and if X is split between two people, i definitely die.
so i revoted him for now.
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sure, but you are all here NOW, which is my point
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perhaps i should get back onto you with that logic
you would agree to lynching me, who you think is town, just "to lynch somebody?" interesting
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On December 12 2011 03:22 annul wrote:
in case my brief explanation was too succinct for you all:
there are four choices: choose shot/pass shot; hit red/hit town
choose shot, hit red: town may still lynch me for what would be, in my mind, a great day 2 bus... something i have done the last like 4 games as red. a palmar/annul bus plan starting day 1 to coalesce day 2 would be something i am sure one of us would consider and probably execute to perfection.
choose shot, hit town: i lose my shot, i die day 2 outright.
pass shot, hit red: i did my job as a day vig in killing a red AND it looks a lot more good for me since any bus chance would have to involve three mafia, so it is much less likely i am pulling that one off
pass shot, hit town: i took the player no one thought was mafia to control my power, where if i were red i would be putting my own teammates in great danger than controlling the shot myself, thus helping to disprove any notions of redness anyway. sucks we hit town but if the MOST THOUGHT TOWNIE in the game was not able to pick correctly, then why is this my fault?
so you may ask "why did i not pick option 1 and just 1 for 1 trade?" that was the rest of my explanation where i said i had more to do for the town in this game. day vig is not my only power, after all. there is still some equity left in my role that i want to extract for +EV. so in my mind the MOST "profitable" line was letting toad pick, since he had just as much chance as i did to pick a red (i had no idea who he was gonna shoot) AND it gave me the greater chance of surviving the lynch. BOTH of the "choose shot" lines ended in either a guaranteed annul lynch or a more-than-likely annul lynch. so i came up with something else.
so do you fault a player for trying to survive? it is against the rules not to do so.
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the above, mind you, goes unanswered by palmar and his sheep
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On December 12 2011 08:02 Zephirdd wrote:
I'm still uneasy on lynching him, but not less than I am on lynching annul.
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then why not revote off of me yourself?
8-5 looks a lot closer than 9-4
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On December 12 2011 08:04 Palmar wrote:
Don't do it.
Kill annul. No other wagon should be going on at the moment, he's two votes away from being killed, don't fucking let him escape again.
Goddamnit Zephirdd.
maybe because he sees what you are too blind to see?
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palmar: i already know what your cases are. many people have addressed them PBPA-style better than i did...
but where i give an answer to your second "case", you fail to respond. i already know your second "case." where is your response to my response?
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notice this: it's 7-7 between me and redff right now.
palmar counts for two, but its 7-7 in PEOPLE between the two of us.
it is NOT necessary, despite what palmar says, to vote me because we have to get a lynch. it is now even.
get off of me and onto red.
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On December 12 2011 08:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 08:07 annul wrote:
palmar: i already know what your cases are. many people have addressed them PBPA-style better than i did...
but where i give an answer to your second "case", you fail to respond. i already know your second "case." where is your response to my response? I don't talk to scum
bahahahahahahahahah
aka "i have no response because i know you are right."
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go read death factory mafia for the worst town in TL history. its a short game; mafia won on day 2 lol
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i asked earlier and WBG says roleblocked targets get told no matter what
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KJ and sandroba and jackal
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i imagine there is more to come
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so KJ is there like a conclusion coming from this or did you just decide to recap the game
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both players die. i asked about that too.
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On December 12 2011 09:41 Lanaia wrote:
I'm not going to switch my vote because I just really don't think redff is scum... :/
why do you think i am scum?
personally, dont just sheep palmar
what makes me scum?
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how about "im blue"
is that a good enough reason lol
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