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On December 09 2011 06:02 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 05:59 Drazerk wrote:On December 09 2011 05:58 Toadesstern wrote:On December 09 2011 05:57 Drazerk wrote:On December 09 2011 05:55 Jackal58 wrote:On December 09 2011 05:52 Drazerk wrote:On December 09 2011 05:50 annul wrote:
im saying he OMGUSes every game. i have been voting him before he ever started to attack me.
and no, you will get my big post if my death is imminent. you will see why when the time comes. Just post it now doing what you are doing now is going to make everyone want to lynch you more causing an imminent death regardless If Annul is town and there is a role claim involved I'd rather he didn't claim anything right now. Well he has already said there is no role claim involved and personally I would take Annul's role claim less serious than my own and not treat him any different unless he could confirm his own role or something so you agree that you're a liar and I was right about you all along? You really need to understand my meta better -.- it's hard because this is the first game we're playing together I think. I mean I shot you last game on n2 with my awesome vigpower but other than that I don't know much about your meta.
Drazerk just loves to play aggressively and claims whatever he thinks is necessary to get people talking and slipping. I've played together with him as mason 2 games ago. He is leaning very towards town for me.
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On December 08 2011 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:I think we might have someone with Erandorr. Someone already pointed out his style is very mich the same as the last game. He's not contributing at all, if someone calls him out he gets in here, does one bigger post and keeps lurkering / onlines until the next guy calls him out. The very same thing happened last game. Look at his filter last game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=117613 and start on page 2 (his mayor-campaign-post), everything before that was before the game started. Called out by ss: klick meErandorr steps in the thread, does one normal post, proceeds to lurk. I made a case on him as well: Klick me Same as above as frankly, both happened abot the same time, so yeah erandorr get in the thread and starts doing some real posts. That's page 63. From page 64 again he's back to one-liners only. Massive vote-rigging:: Klick me! Erandorr joins the discussion to get one bigger post to get some town-cred and proceeds to lurk / do one-liners. I mean there where people claiming mafia, no need to not bus them for town-cred. That's how he played mafia last game. Now let's look at what erandorr is doing this game, shall we? That's his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212&user=117613He did some posts on day1 tha are no one-lines, those howeve are just fluff without content, telling rad to take a stand without actually doing something on his own. EVERYTHING ELSE is a one-liner. Next thing that's going to happen: Erandorr will come here, make a big post to look town again, telling you that something is wrong and some way more obvious target should be lynched first and will proceed lurking / doing one-liners afterwards. We can't let that happen again. He completly ignored those people who called him out last game, did one post that made him look okayish and went lurking again.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212¤tpage=72#1428
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212¤tpage=72#1436
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212¤tpage=81#1606
My quote is the case, those 3 links are important.
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oh hes a palmar sheep
yeeeeeep thats pretty bad
id rather take down the figurehead though
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On December 08 2011 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:I think we might have someone with Erandorr. Someone already pointed out his style is very mich the same as the last game. He's not contributing at all, if someone calls him out he gets in here, does one bigger post and keeps lurkering / onlines until the next guy calls him out. The very same thing happened last game. Look at his filter last game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=117613 and start on page 2 (his mayor-campaign-post), everything before that was before the game started. Called out by ss: klick meErandorr steps in the thread, does one normal post, proceeds to lurk. I made a case on him as well: Klick me Same as above as frankly, both happened abot the same time, so yeah erandorr get in the thread and starts doing some real posts. That's page 63. From page 64 again he's back to one-liners only. Massive vote-rigging:: Klick me! Erandorr joins the discussion to get one bigger post to get some town-cred and proceeds to lurk / do one-liners. I mean there where people claiming mafia, no need to not bus them for town-cred. That's how he played mafia last game. Now let's look at what erandorr is doing this game, shall we? That's his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212&user=117613He did some posts on day1 tha are no one-lines, those howeve are just fluff without content, telling rad to take a stand without actually doing something on his own. EVERYTHING ELSE is a one-liner. Next thing that's going to happen: Erandorr will come here, make a big post to look town again, telling you that something is wrong and some way more obvious target should be lynched first and will proceed lurking / doing one-liners afterwards. We can't let that happen again. He completly ignored those people who called him out last game, did one post that made him look okayish and went lurking again.
@annul as to why Erandorr is mafia.
Toad's case against him is what got me started thinking Erandorr is mafia.
Erandorr continues to behave the same way. Erandorr has done one piece of scum-hunting, a very weak case against Radfield. His case against Radfield seems to be less of an accusation of scumminess and more of a critique of his gameplay.
His case against Radfield is made to look like a scumhunt, so he seems like a participating townie, but if you read the whole case, it is just a bunch of criticisms of Radfield, and draws an unwarranted conclusion that Radfield is scummy.
Some quotable lines . . .
"After rereading it doesn't sound as definite as I thought it would" (his case against Radfield)
"So, Radfield :
It is very easy to look pro town when you are not actually talking about players. Radfield this far has done a great job involving people into this game and trying to keep the thread active. That in itself is actually pretty protown and should be considered a point in Radfields favor. But it also makes it incredibly easy to skirt by without actually *doing anything*" (look who's talking, the only person he has gone after so far is Radfield and it is a fabricated case)
He goes on to explain how several of the things that Radfield has said don't make sense. He doesn't say they are scummy, just that they don't make sense.
Contradicting his earlier point about Radfield not doing anything, he goes on to say, "I actually did the work and went through Radfields older games and he actually is uncertain about alignment day1 pretty often. "
and the stunning conclusion, "He actually started pushing Lanaia ... for two minutes. Honestly I am not quite sure what to make of that case.
What I can say though is that what Radfield has done this game has not been impressive at all and is definitly scummy in my eyes."
That has to be the wishy-washiest scum-hunt and which means it's not really a scumhunt but just an effort to appear town.
Honestly, his filter produces essentially no positive content and his faux case against Radfield is just a distraction and an attempt to appear town.
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I played that way in the last game because I didn't read the thread.
I am playing this way this game because I have been very ill and couldn't actually keep up. What you posted isn't a real case it's just meta gone wrong. I see where you are coming from but that doesn't change the fact that you are mistaken. Now if you actually want to play well, I would encourage you to read cases instead of assuming things like "there have been 6 votes at the start, so that means he can't be scum". Its called logic!
Annul: I am not a sheep I came to the same conclusion individually, I just thought it would be kinda funny to give sheeping Palmar as the reason.
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On December 09 2011 06:40 TruthBringer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:I think we might have someone with Erandorr. Someone already pointed out his style is very mich the same as the last game. He's not contributing at all, if someone calls him out he gets in here, does one bigger post and keeps lurkering / onlines until the next guy calls him out. The very same thing happened last game. Look at his filter last game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=117613 and start on page 2 (his mayor-campaign-post), everything before that was before the game started. Called out by ss: klick meErandorr steps in the thread, does one normal post, proceeds to lurk. I made a case on him as well: Klick me Same as above as frankly, both happened abot the same time, so yeah erandorr get in the thread and starts doing some real posts. That's page 63. From page 64 again he's back to one-liners only. Massive vote-rigging:: Klick me! Erandorr joins the discussion to get one bigger post to get some town-cred and proceeds to lurk / do one-liners. I mean there where people claiming mafia, no need to not bus them for town-cred. That's how he played mafia last game. Now let's look at what erandorr is doing this game, shall we? That's his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212&user=117613He did some posts on day1 tha are no one-lines, those howeve are just fluff without content, telling rad to take a stand without actually doing something on his own. EVERYTHING ELSE is a one-liner. Next thing that's going to happen: Erandorr will come here, make a big post to look town again, telling you that something is wrong and some way more obvious target should be lynched first and will proceed lurking / doing one-liners afterwards. We can't let that happen again. He completly ignored those people who called him out last game, did one post that made him look okayish and went lurking again. @annul as to why Erandorr is mafia. Toad's case against him is what got me started thinking Erandorr is mafia. Erandorr continues to behave the same way. Erandorr has done one piece of scum-hunting, a very weak case against Radfield. His case against Radfield seems to be less of an accusation of scumminess and more of a critique of his gameplay. His case against Radfield is made to look like a scumhunt, so he seems like a participating townie, but if you read the whole case, it is just a bunch of criticisms of Radfield, and draws an unwarranted conclusion that Radfield is scummy. Some quotable lines . . . "After rereading it doesn't sound as definite as I thought it would" (his case against Radfield) "So, Radfield : It is very easy to look pro town when you are not actually talking about players. Radfield this far has done a great job involving people into this game and trying to keep the thread active. That in itself is actually pretty protown and should be considered a point in Radfields favor. But it also makes it incredibly easy to skirt by without actually *doing anything*" (look who's talking, the only person he has gone after so far is Radfield and it is a fabricated case) He goes on to explain how several of the things that Radfield has said don't make sense. He doesn't say they are scummy, just that they don't make sense. Contradicting his earlier point about Radfield not doing anything, he goes on to say, "I actually did the work and went through Radfields older games and he actually is uncertain about alignment day1 pretty often. " and the stunning conclusion, "He actually started pushing Lanaia ... for two minutes. Honestly I am not quite sure what to make of that case. What I can say though is that what Radfield has done this game has not been impressive at all and is definitly scummy in my eyes." That has to be the wishy-washiest scum-hunt and which means it's not really a scumhunt but just an effort to appear town. Honestly, his filter produces essentially no positive content and his faux case against Radfield is just a distraction and an attempt to appear town.
You are either stupid or malicously ignoring my points on Radfield
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On December 09 2011 06:42 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 06:40 TruthBringer wrote:On December 08 2011 06:44 Toadesstern wrote:I think we might have someone with Erandorr. Someone already pointed out his style is very mich the same as the last game. He's not contributing at all, if someone calls him out he gets in here, does one bigger post and keeps lurkering / onlines until the next guy calls him out. The very same thing happened last game. Look at his filter last game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=117613 and start on page 2 (his mayor-campaign-post), everything before that was before the game started. Called out by ss: klick meErandorr steps in the thread, does one normal post, proceeds to lurk. I made a case on him as well: Klick me Same as above as frankly, both happened abot the same time, so yeah erandorr get in the thread and starts doing some real posts. That's page 63. From page 64 again he's back to one-liners only. Massive vote-rigging:: Klick me! Erandorr joins the discussion to get one bigger post to get some town-cred and proceeds to lurk / do one-liners. I mean there where people claiming mafia, no need to not bus them for town-cred. That's how he played mafia last game. Now let's look at what erandorr is doing this game, shall we? That's his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212&user=117613He did some posts on day1 tha are no one-lines, those howeve are just fluff without content, telling rad to take a stand without actually doing something on his own. EVERYTHING ELSE is a one-liner. Next thing that's going to happen: Erandorr will come here, make a big post to look town again, telling you that something is wrong and some way more obvious target should be lynched first and will proceed lurking / doing one-liners afterwards. We can't let that happen again. He completly ignored those people who called him out last game, did one post that made him look okayish and went lurking again. @annul as to why Erandorr is mafia. Toad's case against him is what got me started thinking Erandorr is mafia. Erandorr continues to behave the same way. Erandorr has done one piece of scum-hunting, a very weak case against Radfield. His case against Radfield seems to be less of an accusation of scumminess and more of a critique of his gameplay. His case against Radfield is made to look like a scumhunt, so he seems like a participating townie, but if you read the whole case, it is just a bunch of criticisms of Radfield, and draws an unwarranted conclusion that Radfield is scummy. Some quotable lines . . . "After rereading it doesn't sound as definite as I thought it would" (his case against Radfield) "So, Radfield : It is very easy to look pro town when you are not actually talking about players. Radfield this far has done a great job involving people into this game and trying to keep the thread active. That in itself is actually pretty protown and should be considered a point in Radfields favor. But it also makes it incredibly easy to skirt by without actually *doing anything*" (look who's talking, the only person he has gone after so far is Radfield and it is a fabricated case) He goes on to explain how several of the things that Radfield has said don't make sense. He doesn't say they are scummy, just that they don't make sense. Contradicting his earlier point about Radfield not doing anything, he goes on to say, "I actually did the work and went through Radfields older games and he actually is uncertain about alignment day1 pretty often. " and the stunning conclusion, "He actually started pushing Lanaia ... for two minutes. Honestly I am not quite sure what to make of that case. What I can say though is that what Radfield has done this game has not been impressive at all and is definitly scummy in my eyes." That has to be the wishy-washiest scum-hunt and which means it's not really a scumhunt but just an effort to appear town. Honestly, his filter produces essentially no positive content and his faux case against Radfield is just a distraction and an attempt to appear town. You are either stupid or malicously ignoring my points on Radfield
Play nice. Attack arguments, not people.
To avoid any confusion about who I am this time, because he is busy with exams, Incognito asked me to make sure that the thread was running smoothly if I had time.
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Okay guys. I JUST finished my project, 1.5 hours before the deadline. I'm not going to change my vote because I do not think annul is scum. Yeah, I haven't been around much and I'm sorry. I didn't realize this project would be so heavy. I'll be here for another forty-five minutes then I have to leave for my school. I'll be back online when I get there.
I don't understand the argument for lynching annul besides "a town doc wouldn't protect him." I don't even think that's a fair argument to make.
On December 09 2011 06:07 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 06:02 Toadesstern wrote:On December 09 2011 05:59 Drazerk wrote:On December 09 2011 05:58 Toadesstern wrote:On December 09 2011 05:57 Drazerk wrote:On December 09 2011 05:55 Jackal58 wrote:On December 09 2011 05:52 Drazerk wrote:On December 09 2011 05:50 annul wrote:
im saying he OMGUSes every game. i have been voting him before he ever started to attack me.
and no, you will get my big post if my death is imminent. you will see why when the time comes. Just post it now doing what you are doing now is going to make everyone want to lynch you more causing an imminent death regardless If Annul is town and there is a role claim involved I'd rather he didn't claim anything right now. Well he has already said there is no role claim involved and personally I would take Annul's role claim less serious than my own and not treat him any different unless he could confirm his own role or something so you agree that you're a liar and I was right about you all along? You really need to understand my meta better -.- it's hard because this is the first game we're playing together I think. I mean I shot you last game on n2 with my awesome vigpower but other than that I don't know much about your meta. Drazerk just loves to play aggressively and claims whatever he thinks is necessary to get people talking and slipping. I've played together with him as mason 2 games ago. He is leaning very towards town for me.
I agree here. He feels town to me as well.
Truthbringer, I'd like you to explain why you think I'm scum based on supersoft dying. Why would I kill someone because they said something about women? I don't understand the logic behind that.
Also those beautiful quotes from eran you posted made me giggle. Thanks for that, I needed it.
However, your dissection makes sense. It really wasn't a case he made.
Erandorr is my biggest scumread and I will not change my vote off him today.
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Erandorr has been replaced by bumatlarge.
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Erandorr - The Non-Contributor
On December 05 2011 08:50 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 08:46 Radfield wrote:
Assuming he is town, he's trying to generate discussion, ANY discussion, given that it was basically the first post of the game.
I'd much rather we stop talking about Palmar until he actually responds. It's far too easy for people to pop in and say "yeah Palmar is the only one who looks fishy right now". Lets drop it for 8-10 hours and have people comment on other players. Okay I just got home and I have a question for you, Rad. What are your thoughts at this point? Is there anyone that is standing out to you?
Erandorr, rather than contributing any thoughts/reads of his own, felt the need to ask Rad for his thoughts/reads.
On December 05 2011 09:35 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 09:00 Radfield wrote:On December 05 2011 08:53 Toadesstern wrote:right now? So far I got mostly things that make me think people are town  Nothing wrong with that. It's all I really have too  It's far easier to pick out town players on Day 1 than mafia players. Okay Radfield, this is starting to give me a bad feeling. I first noticed it when you stated that you feel like a good town atmosphere includes no arguments. You are doing a great job involving a lot of people in the conversation, but it is really, really easy to look town when there is actually not that much to comment on and scum are in no way forced to reveal information. What we have right now is a very peaceful town, but not one that is looking like it is gaining a lot of information anytime soon and you are doing very little to change that. Would you mind sharing your thoughts now, so they can be discussed and we get a better sense of your alignment at the same time?
Erandorr, rather than contributing any thoughts/reads of his own, lightly casts suspicion on Radfield for not contributing any thoughts/reads. Not so much calling him scum, but "this is starting to give me a bad feeling" indicates that he's certainly headed down that road.
On December 05 2011 10:30 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 09:53 Radfield wrote:On December 05 2011 09:35 Erandorr wrote:On December 05 2011 09:00 Radfield wrote:On December 05 2011 08:53 Toadesstern wrote:right now? So far I got mostly things that make me think people are town Nothing wrong with that. It's all I really have too It's far easier to pick out town players on Day 1 than mafia players. Okay Radfield, this is starting to give me a bad feeling. I first noticed it when you stated that you feel like a good town atmosphere includes no arguments. You are doing a great job involving a lot of people in the conversation, but it is really, really easy to look town when there is actually not that much to comment on and scum are in no way forced to reveal information. What we have right now is a very peaceful town, but not one that is looking like it is gaining a lot of information anytime soon and you are doing very little to change that. Would you mind sharing your thoughts now, so they can be discussed and we get a better sense of your alignment at the same time? As I stated, what current thoughts I have regarding alignment I would rather not put in the thread just yet. I'm not really sure what you want me to do. I'm in danger of having half the posts on the previous page. I cannot do this on my own, nor can I force other players to post. For now I will settle with poking and prodding as much as I need to. Why are you so worried about what I think? Look at my activity level, if something comes up you will very likely hear what I think of it. In addition, if the thread isn't moving towards a lynch tomorrow I will do my best to rectify it. Not to mention with an activity level this high my alignment will make itself known on its own. There's no need for me to force everything into the open to prove my innocence. You have read the thread Erandorr, what are YOUR thoughts? Why is your first real post asking me what I think, rather than stating what you think. You're a solid player Erandorr, and we both know you don't need me to hold your hand. I first noticed it when you stated that you feel like a good town atmosphere includes no arguments. You know what I mean by this, and I'm positive you agree. No need to stretch my words. I made that first post because I noticed that, while you were engaging people in the game, you didn't really give us anything yourself. The fact that I still have not got anything out of you after an exchange of 3-4 posts sort of justifies that , don't you think? Why don't you want to share thoughts on alignment if you have noticed something? Get everybody to comment on it, see how the players react, or in other words, create some content yourself instead of complaining that no one else is doing anything. I wouldn't call the way you play ant-town, but its actually not helping that much either. And since you are on of the very good players in this game , I feel like we can hold you to a certain standart, as you pointed out correctly.
Erandorr, rather than contribute any thoughts/reads of his own, defends his first couple of posts by attesting that his contribution WAS asking Rad for his contribution.
Before I continue, I'm going to give the definition of contribution as I understand it to mean in the game of Mafia, and how it applies to Rad's posting style versus Eran's posting.
Contribution is airing information into the thread that will not only further your reads on others, but also to allow others to further their reads on you. As members of town, we don't KNOW the alignments of anyone else, but we also understand that others don't have any reason to trust us.
Now, as for how this applies to the Radfield/Erandorr back and forth. Radfield up to this point has been asking people for their reads, Erandorr is right about that. But Radfield was asking specific people about their reads of specific others, indicating that he's trying to get as much information as possible into the thread for analysis. Conversely, Erandorr has been asking specifically for Rad's reads in general, repeatedly. All this serves to do is to make Radfield seem suspicious (this is giving me a bad feeling) for wanting to get as much information as possible before making alignment-based judgements, and it prevents Erandorr from actually contributing anything of substance himself.
Moving on.
On December 05 2011 12:55 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 12:10 Lanaia wrote:Agh, I'm not sure how to feel anymore, yet the game is young so I am okay with that. On December 04 2011 21:15 Radfield wrote:On December 04 2011 19:49 syllogism wrote:
Incog seemed to randomize teams in PYP:I, so I definitely wouldn't lynch based on perceived balance. As for setup balance, I don't think it's useful to speculate about it given how little information I've available and how little it actually matters in terms of how we should proceed. Either way, we will likely know the answer after n1.
I think towns have recently been doing better on the average than a d1 random lynch and considering the obvious downside that people will not have to justify their votes, it's a bad idea. Even if I didn't have a clue who is more likely to flip scum and who isn't, I will at the very least have town reads by the end of the day. If a player who I got a town read on happens to get RNGed, it would be pretty hard not to argue against the lynch. I would even go as far to state that I would rather mislynch day 1 due to scum diverting the lynch from one of their own than RNG and hit scum, but produce no information at all. Agreed. Other than starting discussion, I think RNG has very little value. It simply doesn't mesh very well with most of our primary day 1 goals. In particular, getting the mafia down on paper and forcing them to state who they want to lynch and why. RNG: 2 ##Vote prplhz I know that I really don't like this post at all. I know other people have mentioned it, but it's really bothering me. Radfield, do you even think prplhz is scum? If so, why? If not, why are you still voting him? That is a terrible reason to suspect Radfield. To Radfield : The reason I asked you specificly is because I noticed it and it had not been mentioned before. That in itself was my contribution at that point. That I have to comment on other players as well is a given, but that does not make my questions any less valid. I didn't only ask you, I wrote something about you specificly because that question solidified my concern, which is that you are actually more contributing than guiding, which can be a very subtle way of playing scum. Show nested quote +Certainly I am not going to jump in and say hey guys, I think these 4 players look suspicious. That simply allows mafia to cherry pick which one we should discuss. I agree with that statement in general, but I am quite confused by the reason you are giving. If people look suspicious, that usually means they did something wrong/anti-town/opposed to their usual behaviot etc. That should be discussed and we can see a lot by the reactions every player has to the discussion. If mafia actually did just discuss one player then we as a good town should notice that, and through that already gain a ton of information. You make it sound like Scum can just roll in and dominate discussion.
The issue I have with this post is the fact that he's criticizing Radfield for doing something he himself is doing (not contributing his reads) which is a terrible reason to suspect Radfield (because he himself is doing it, and if he's town that would render it a null-tell), yet criticizes Lanaia for suspecting Radfield for a terrible reason (apparently RNG voting for prplhz).
On December 06 2011 04:45 Erandorr wrote:
I am very ill, probably will write one big post but nothing more today.
Promises content.
On December 06 2011 07:46 Erandorr wrote:
Can we just lynch Radfield?
Fails to deliver. Yet here it is, a full 40 pages into the game, we get our first glimpse into Erandorr's reads. He wants to lynch Radfield.
On December 06 2011 07:53 Erandorr wrote:Fine :/ Hang on ..
After being prodded about the 'big post' he was supposed to be writing, he concedes that he'll write it.
I'm not going to post it here (as he said, it's a big motherfucker), but it boils down to
'Radfield doesn't provide actionable content, therefor Radfield must be scum'
He also tries to paint the fact that he doesn't want to out his alignment-related reads scummy, but by putting words (because it's anti-town) into Rad's mouth.
On December 06 2011 09:51 Erandorr wrote:
Thought about other players coming soon (tm)
On December 06 2011 09:54 Erandorr wrote:
Yeah I know. I am looking at the candidates right now.
On December 06 2011 10:01 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 09:59 syllogism wrote:
Drazerk look at the people voting with you and consider whether it could be possible that you are supporting the wrong people. can you read that big wall i wrote and tell me if I am insane or actually making sense?
On December 06 2011 10:07 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 10:05 redFF wrote:
@ERANDORR YOU POST YOUR FIRST CASE 4 HOURS FROM THE END OF DAY 1
BITCH PLEASE Yeah that was smart. Still read it tho and tell me what you think about it for the next day.
On December 06 2011 10:08 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 10:07 Risen wrote:On December 06 2011 10:05 redFF wrote:
@ERANDORR YOU POST YOUR FIRST CASE 4 HOURS FROM THE END OF DAY 1
BITCH PLEASE Last game taught me that you should post your cases as you write them. Withholding information and thoughts is not a good thing. How could that be a good thing? its about timing. like this no one will really consider it for today because there is just not enough time. I promised a big post though so I gotta deliver ^.^
On December 06 2011 10:18 Erandorr wrote:
Yeah, Heir is fine with me, Palmar isn't
##Vote: Heir
(Baaah)
There's a theme in the quotes I just posted. See if you can guess what it is. I'll tell you what I think it is in the spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +There is a distinct lack of content in them.
I've read enough.
##Vote: Erandorr
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Or rather
##Vote: bumatlarge
Also, HI BUM!
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A reminder to all; if you have not voted yet, you have less than 6 hours to do so.
I will be sending PMs to those who have not voted yet. If you were warned yesterday, you will be modkilled.
Also, all current votes on Erandorr will be summed with the votes on bumatlarge. So, if your vote is currently on Erandorr, you need not change it. You may if you want, though.
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Holy replacement timing batman!
This really makes me believe erandors 'im sick' defense and I send him a fell better wish via this post.
IMO, this brings us back to annul/palmar. I was getting into the case on erandor but now his defense seems too good to just ignore like I was preparing to. I know that is pretty meta but it just seems rash to lynch a guy that replaced in like this considering he nature of the case leading up to now.
tl;dr - replacement is a soft confirmation of real life making it impossible to play and that soft confirmation really destroys alot of the case in my eyes.
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Lol at the replacement timings
I am going to agree with V7 with the claims against Eran / bum
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what. the. fuck. This is such a messed up situation for buma to be in. Sorry
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It destroys nothing. He has enough energy to call for a Rad lynch day one based on no content, but not enough energy to actually provide content himself. It's fucking scummy bullshit. He was able to post about how Rad's 'lack of content' was 'giving him a bad feeling' and why and everything, why was he not able to post about his own thoughts/reads?
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On December 09 2011 07:18 vaderseven wrote:
Holy replacement timing batman!
This really makes me believe erandors 'im sick' defense and I send him a fell better wish via this post.
IMO, this brings us back to annul/palmar. I was getting into the case on erandor but now his defense seems too good to just ignore like I was preparing to. I know that is pretty meta but it just seems rash to lynch a guy that replaced in like this considering he nature of the case leading up to now.
tl;dr - replacement is a soft confirmation of real life making it impossible to play and that soft confirmation really destroys alot of the case in my eyes.
Or is it a modkill/replacement for calling Drazerk names?
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Did Erandorr ask to be replaced or was he modkilled?
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I'm sorry. Truthbringer not Drazerk.
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EPT
