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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 06:03 GMT
#371
that was after i asked you about your vote
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 06:21 GMT
#373
because you jumped on an easy wagon
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 06:29 GMT
#376
the palmar/corrupt wagons are nowhere near as easy to place a shitty vote on as the soap one is.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 12:23 GMT
#400
##Unvote
meh palmar you're ok for now

can't get over corrupt saying "so many suspicious people" and then only being able to list 1 and then ignoring my pushing of the issue.

##Vote Corrupt
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:16 GMT
#450
On December 05 2011 21:51 Corrupt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 21:23 redFF wrote:
##Unvote
meh palmar you're ok for now

can't get over corrupt saying "so many suspicious people" and then only being able to list 1 and then ignoring my pushing of the issue.

##Vote Corrupt

Already wrote about that post in the previous page. I'm curious why you keep making a big deal out of it.
I answered both of your questions and you claim I ignored you? I listed 2 people, not 1.
You convinced Zephirdd to vote against me based on.. let's say.. nothing.
Now all of a sudden you suspend your case on Palmar, unvote and go for me? Sounds like a plan.

2 people is not "so many"
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:20 GMT
#452
On December 05 2011 23:54 hyshes wrote:
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On December 05 2011 21:46 sandroba wrote:
Okay so here it is:

Syllogism: Unless he found a new love for being mafia exactly this game, I'm pretty surre he is town. He could have opted to post waaaay less day1 and still I wouldn't suspect him, because that's usually how he operates. Instead he is getting this thread moving, posting a shitton and generating discussion.

Radfield: Pretty active, but for him that doesn't mean as much. Leaning town on him for now, only because his posts are not as carefully constructed as when he is mafia.

Palmar: Kinda inactive day 1, but I can't really say shit about that, since I was inactive myself. It's worth keeping an eye on him, since I'm having a bad feeling about his posts (pretty much reharsh of previous games posts), but still a retarded choice for a lynch day1.

These guys shouldn't even be discussed for a lynch day1, since they have a high chance of being shot night 1 when town.


Nice way to create a base to try to lynch those guys on day 2..



Anyway, I'm sorry for my current inactivity. It's my birthday and there was a supriseparty yesterday. Today i have dinner with friends so won't be posting much either. I thought i would only lose 1 night due to my birthday (tonight) but a supriseparty made that 2. I read through the thread and have a question. The palmar case seems to be a gathering of little things to me, could someone (preferable one of the voters) explain the case to me?

you're taking something from sandro's post that he didn't imply. all he's saying is that they're good and as town are likely to be shot n1. He's not saying if they are alive day 2 they're scum...

Palmar case is explained, read my filter. He's kind of trolling the thread at this stage though.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:22 GMT
#453
On December 06 2011 00:14 Mattchew wrote:
Syllogism - This game
Show nested quote +
"Zodiac" lists are fine as a guideline for medics, especially in a game with newer players or players who are otherwise unsure as to who is a likely n1 target. Even if they decide against following it, it will discourage mafia from shooting into it. Given the recent success rate of TL medics, I think the main early game function of medics is to discourage mafia from being overly bold with their shots rather than to actually save someone.

Last Game (Town)
Show nested quote +
I think we shouldn't be lynching into presumably active veteran players on on day1, given the number of lurking new players that will likely be present.

Also is a ton more activity and aggressiveness out of Syllogism this game. Scummy


I don't see a contradiction in these posts, what point are you trying to make here?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:22 GMT
#454
On December 06 2011 00:17 prplhz wrote:
I think TruthBringer and vaderseven are best lynch candidates for today. I will vote TruthBringer over vaderseven because I think he's more likely to flip scum. I don't like lynching Zephirdd or Corrupt.

I think Palmar has been uncharacteristically useless so far but I wouldn't consider him for day1 lynch. sandroba and syllogism are basically confirmed to me and I think that Radfield is looking good too.

@supersoft What do you think about my case on TruthBringer? You commented on one case on TruthBringer but not the other.

what do you mean by basically confirmed?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:23 GMT
#455
Radfield stop talking about letting a vig shoot scummy players, we lynch scummy players. We don't even know if this game has vigs.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:26 GMT
#456
oh lol zephirdd. I would just like to remind everyone that the town win con is listed in the OP.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:41 GMT
#463
On December 06 2011 00:33 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 00:22 redFF wrote:
On December 06 2011 00:14 Mattchew wrote:
Syllogism - This game
"Zodiac" lists are fine as a guideline for medics, especially in a game with newer players or players who are otherwise unsure as to who is a likely n1 target. Even if they decide against following it, it will discourage mafia from shooting into it. Given the recent success rate of TL medics, I think the main early game function of medics is to discourage mafia from being overly bold with their shots rather than to actually save someone.

Last Game (Town)
I think we shouldn't be lynching into presumably active veteran players on on day1, given the number of lurking new players that will likely be present.

Also is a ton more activity and aggressiveness out of Syllogism this game. Scummy


I don't see a contradiction in these posts, what point are you trying to make here?

Its not a direct contradiction.. just "feels" different.

Also,
Prplhz, Draz, and redFF were all mafia in the last game and are playing completely different this time around. So far they all come off as town to me.

how does it "feel" different, that's incredibly vague.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:43 GMT
#464
On December 06 2011 00:34 vaderseven wrote:
@corrupt

By posting style I mean that I have played with people that post short 1-2 liners and then don't scum hunt while voting in a randomish fashion. I was hoping you would vote and put down some real reasons if pressured. At least you joined the conversation.

##unvote

I was waiting for Palmer to post his defense before I pointed out the fallacy of the case (his list was an answer to a question) and I like his defense. I hate his current vote.

Redff-

So your case on Palmer is defunct and was based on a missreading of things. You are now voting corrupt in what I would say was the first true bandwagon vote of the game.

I think you are acting scummy with this set of actions.


About me-

I don't really get the case on me. If someone would spell it out ill reply to it.

Let the day of posting via phone begin (aka good morning thread).

Oh and ##vote redff


i was the first and main person to call corrupt out.

yes i misread the list but there was more than just the list in my case so i do not consider my case on him defunct.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:44 GMT
#466
On December 06 2011 00:40 vaderseven wrote:
Did draz explain his bandwagon corrupt vote I see in the voting thread?

drazerk isn't voting corrupt.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:47 GMT
#467
refallen was incredibly defensive after i asked him about his vote.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:50 GMT
#469
On December 05 2011 19:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 02:27 redFF wrote:
On December 04 2011 22:42 Palmar wrote:
On December 04 2011 22:32 syllogism wrote:
On December 04 2011 22:21 Palmar wrote:
On December 04 2011 22:04 syllogism wrote:
Our EU players at the very least should be awake by now and posted: Corrupt, Erandorr, prplhz, Toadesstern. I would like to note that you are required to post at least once every 24h cycle.

Based on nothing at all, who would you lynch?

Palmar why did you ask me a question you knew how I would respond to? Did that reveal anything useful?


Because I knew what your answer would be, but I was unsure how it would be formulated.

Your chosen path was to to deny it decisively without trashing the idea. Which is interesting. You could've been much more careful or much more aggressive, you could have absolutely trashed the idea, or you could have carefully denied it.

I'm not sure how to read it though. What made you initiate a discussion with me? Normally you just call me annoying until you figure out if I'm town or scum. I mean, I have done the same thing with sandroba, but what factors control your choice of target (me) and your change in play?

You are European, likely awake and usually quite willing to start posting on your own. I don't recall ever calling you annoying, care to provide reference? I suppose the closest I can come up with is lotr where you weren't doing anything and I noted that.


Annoying may not be the word you use, but just think about our last game as town together where I was running for mayor. Your approach towards me is not the same.

he says syllo's play is different from his last game as town. It's being suspicious of him without actually saying anything concrete, this is how scum start wagons without anyone noticing they started it.


I know you know how syllogism and I play with each other. If I want him lynched people are going to notice. And not to mention, I have no interest in lynching syllogism day 1 as scum or town, I know he can be lazy as either alignment, and his scumplay isn't particularly scary so far, while his town play is some of the best on TL.

So yeah, this statement doesn't hold any value, your case is irrelevant. Please pull head out of ass.
you don't even respond to my point here. I say you subtly put suspicion on him, and you don't deny that you did that. You also don't give a reason as to why you did that.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:54 GMT
#470
On December 06 2011 00:47 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 00:41 redFF wrote:
On December 06 2011 00:33 Mattchew wrote:
On December 06 2011 00:22 redFF wrote:
On December 06 2011 00:14 Mattchew wrote:
Syllogism - This game
"Zodiac" lists are fine as a guideline for medics, especially in a game with newer players or players who are otherwise unsure as to who is a likely n1 target. Even if they decide against following it, it will discourage mafia from shooting into it. Given the recent success rate of TL medics, I think the main early game function of medics is to discourage mafia from being overly bold with their shots rather than to actually save someone.

Last Game (Town)
I think we shouldn't be lynching into presumably active veteran players on on day1, given the number of lurking new players that will likely be present.

Also is a ton more activity and aggressiveness out of Syllogism this game. Scummy


I don't see a contradiction in these posts, what point are you trying to make here?

Its not a direct contradiction.. just "feels" different.

Also,
Prplhz, Draz, and redFF were all mafia in the last game and are playing completely different this time around. So far they all come off as town to me.

how does it "feel" different, that's incredibly vague.


in this game he is supporting a veteran naming "zodiac list" where as last game he was against acting on veterans and it seems like his stance on pointing out veterans to new players has changed.

in the last game he was against having a list for detectives iirc. I don't remember him being against giving medics a list of veterans to consider protecting.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 15:54 GMT
#471
i have 3k posts
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 16:54 GMT
#518
soap did the exact same thing as town last game, his post is townish at best and null at worst.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 16:54 GMT
#519
that was fucking stupid.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 05 2011 16:55 GMT
#520
On December 05 2011 14:20 redFF wrote:
haha
he made this post

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On November 26 2011 10:44 Soap wrote:
Ugh, there's so little information and scum are free to bury any tell under piles of nonsense and fingerpointing, as I'm sure it's being done. This will be most valuable in retrospective and I feel town should simulate a close vote to entice mafia to root for their candidate(s), but Palmer flew away in the popularity contest. So I'm protest voting for sinani206.

on page 68 of xlvii, and he was town.


did you not see this post vader?
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