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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50104 Posts
November 27 2011 10:45 GMT
#1881
right now at it stands town is really divided over the palmar and BC issue,some people trust palmar and some people don't at all, its a cause for concern if the town is divided on their leader,which is why the town needs someone else to trust on because the way things stand on the issue town will most certainly fall.

the town divided is a dead town,we need people we can all trust right now.

whats surprising is the last min votes on BC.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
November 27 2011 10:48 GMT
#1882
Ah, I didn't notice James was playing.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 10:54 GMT
#1883
On November 27 2011 19:34 syllogism wrote:
If Palmar doesn't use double lynch tonight we'll lynch him


Give me details other than "I want to"

I said on multiple occasions I feel like day 3 and onwards are the most logical point to start double lynching, explain why I'm wrong.
Computer says mafia
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2011 10:57 GMT
#1884
On November 27 2011 19:34 syllogism wrote:
If Palmar doesn't use double lynch tonight we'll lynch him



this, 1000x.

if he comes up with ANY excuse or reason whatsoever not to pop double lynch tonight so it is active on day 2, he must be taken out on day 2, period. we have to hope that somehow both the mayor and the sheriff aren't mafia, even though it looks like they are (if they are, we likely lose outright anyway tbh), because we need double lynches starting on day 3 in the case we have to pop palmar tomorrow.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 10:59 GMT
#1885
On November 27 2011 19:57 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 19:34 syllogism wrote:
If Palmar doesn't use double lynch tonight we'll lynch him



this, 1000x.

if he comes up with ANY excuse or reason whatsoever not to pop double lynch tonight so it is active on day 2, he must be taken out on day 2, period. we have to hope that somehow both the mayor and the sheriff aren't mafia, even though it looks like they are (if they are, we likely lose outright anyway tbh), because we need double lynches starting on day 3 in the case we have to pop palmar tomorrow.


If you don't give reasons, you need to shut up.

I already explained that with sanities in the game the earliest point at which it makes sense to increase our killing speed is day 3.

You can threaten me all you want, but unless backed by solid reasoning I'm sticking to my plan of activating the double lynch for day 3 and onward.
Computer says mafia
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#1886
On November 27 2011 02:20 kitaman27 wrote:
To put how important reducing scum kp is from the start:

64vs16
Scum mayor elected, mislynch + deny town double lynches
63vs16
11 consecutive correct lynches ignoring blues
55vs15
48vs14
41vs13
35vs12
29vs11
24vs10
19vs9
15vs8
11vs7
8vs6
5vs5 GG Town loses

syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2011 11:01 GMT
#1887
On November 27 2011 19:54 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 19:34 syllogism wrote:
If Palmar doesn't use double lynch tonight we'll lynch him


Give me details other than "I want to"

I said on multiple occasions I feel like day 3 and onwards are the most logical point to start double lynching, explain why I'm wrong.

Even disregarding math about scum KP, it's because we can't be sure of your alignment yet. If at some point that changes, we could skip day 3 if if we think you will be able to stay alive long enough for that to be a good idea
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2011 11:02 GMT
#1888
consider we will be losing ~9 players to modkills (since ace wants to replace one of the ten), this game is pretty much over already.

but the only chance is to lower KP early which means double lynch active tomorrow, on the day we will have the most clues to pick from and the most revelation of shit going down
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
November 27 2011 11:03 GMT
#1889
Damn I thought YM was just a retarded townie. But I dunno who else we would have lunched....
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 11:04 GMT
#1890
you're assuming we don't double lynch at all. That's faulty logic seeing as I already said I'd double lynch for day 3, not just for day 2.
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2011 11:06 GMT
#1891
The risk of you being scum and denying us most of the double lynches outweighs the information gained by delaying the start of the double lynches
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#1892
sanities of DTs is almost irrelevant for double lynch purposes. this is a clue game the DTs arent going to be coming out on day 3.

DT sees someone tonight. they dont know sanity. they breadcrumb....

if they die night 2, they gave us nothing since we still dont know if their breadcrumbed info is sane or insane or what.

if they live to day 3, what do you think is going to happen? they breadcrumb some more without having their DT skills contributing to a lynch discussion (only their general red hunting skills). under this logic we should hold the double lynches back some more, yeah?

obviously not
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
November 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#1893
Whats the difference between using the double lynch on day 2 and 3??
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#1894
On November 27 2011 20:01 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 19:54 Palmar wrote:
On November 27 2011 19:34 syllogism wrote:
If Palmar doesn't use double lynch tonight we'll lynch him


Give me details other than "I want to"

I said on multiple occasions I feel like day 3 and onwards are the most logical point to start double lynching, explain why I'm wrong.

Even disregarding math about scum KP, it's because we can't be sure of your alignment yet. If at some point that changes, we could skip day 3 if if we think you will be able to stay alive long enough for that to be a good idea


What does my alignment have to do with it?

The math is obviously wrong, because it simply assumes I will never double lynch, which I intend to do.

Ignoring the question of whether or not I will follow through with the lynch tomorrow night, which seems to be your fear, which do you think is better:

a) double lynch days 2-5
b) double lynch days 3-6

I was assuming that as the game went on we'd have more information. Day 2 will pretty much be like day 1.
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2011 11:10 GMT
#1895
Uh, if you are scum and town decides you are scum, you will just stop double lynching and there is nothing we can do about it but hope BC isn't scum as well. Even if BC is town, scum will then know all the BGs and he might not live long enough to use the lynches either
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 11:10 GMT
#1896
The question presented is:

If I was confirmed town, would you then support waiting until day 3 with the double lynches?
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2011 11:11 GMT
#1897
Yes, but that is irrelevant
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2011 11:11 GMT
#1898
WE WILL HAVE EIGHT CLUES TOMORROW.

why are you going to give the mafia team a better chance at winning?

with a double lynch up tomorrow we have a direct chance to save one more player on night 2 by taking out two reds with double lynch. they go to 14 =7 kp and not 15 = 8 kp

this 1 player could spell the difference in the end, since the math is already very tight for us as it is
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 11:11 GMT
#1899
On November 27 2011 20:10 syllogism wrote:
Uh, if you are scum and town decides you are scum, you will just stop double lynching and there is nothing we can do about it but hope BC isn't scum as well. Even if BC is town, scum will then know all the BGs and he might not live long enough to use the lynches either


That's not what I asked, just imagine I was suddenly mod-confirmed town.

Would you in that case support waiting for one cycle, or going with it?
Computer says mafia
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2011 11:12 GMT
#1900
i wouldnt support it if you were confirmed town, but i wouldnt push your day 2 lynch. id probably just mentally note never to play with you
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