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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On November 30 2011 23:39 xtfftc wrote: By the way, newbie DTs: you might want to consider checking players such as ciryandor and kenpachi for checking tonight. They are both very likely to be mafia and likely to die soon one way or another (lynch, vigilanties, etc). If you've been smart enough to check veteran townies such as kitaman, syllogism, jackal and the like - who all flipped green on night 1 - you would be able to confirm your sanity after you see the flip. why cant they figure this out for themselves?? you have just recommended that DTs check 2 players who were already good target to frame! (because they are likely to die soon.) if a frame takes place it is possible that they might conclude they have the wrong sanity isn't this why we do not publicly tell blues how to act unless we are attempting some form of gambit? | ||
vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On November 30 2011 23:55 xtfftc wrote: When I analysed his posts yesterday I couldn't make up my mind - but his subsequent disappearance reminds a lot of how zeks acted. Both attempted to defend themselves and didn't do a terrible job but stopped contributing right after. For now he goes on then. On November 30 2011 23:54 Serejai wrote: Zeks was going to die, also. He scumslipped and was probably intended to be a bus anyway. The only evidence annul had was a vague day 1 clue when he started accusing Zeks. Nobody but him was willing to convict based on a clue, but he kept pushing it over and over. I would personally look at the list of people who switched from Zeks to Palmar, as they were likely mafia voting to bus Zeks and get the sheep to follow, then jumped ship to their real target later. Anyone who switched from Zeks to Palmar, at any point in the voting, should be looked at. Serajai, do us all a favour then. Please point them out. If we're up shit creek this much, we'll need as much help as we can get. | ||
xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On December 01 2011 00:01 layabout wrote: why cant they figure this out for themselves?? you have just recommended that DTs check 2 players who were already good target to frame! (because they are likely to die soon.) if a frame takes place it is possible that they might conclude they have the wrong sanity isn't this why we do not publicly tell blues how to act unless we are attempting some form of gambit? I am talking about players who are very likely to be dead soon, so framing doesn't play a role in this. Framed or not, when kenpachi dies, he will flip, so the DTs will know whether he was mafia or town. Your post is a good indicator as to why the less experienced players might need some advise on the issue. | ||
Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ciryandor kenpachi serejai vaderseven sprungjeezy Mattchew cosine? Mattchew and cosine arguments link Who more and which of these should be lurkerbane or vigi shots? @DT thing A player needs the information of his check + the death of someone to determine his sanity. If he targets a framed target, his sanity test goes down. I agree with layabout on this point. | ||
xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On November 30 2011 23:30 annul wrote: if a town vig/bane hits a mafia member who the mafia (or the RNG) has chosen to perform a night kill, is the night kill prevented? No. Kills are resolved simultaneously in the order resolution cue. | ||
Serejai
6007 Posts
On December 01 2011 00:04 Hassybaby wrote: For now he goes on then. Serajai, do us all a favour then. Please point them out. If we're up shit creek this much, we'll need as much help as we can get. Actually, there was only one person who voted Zeks and switched to Palmar: vaderseven, who I've been saying for like 50 pages is mafia and nobody wanted to listed to me until Palmar flipped -_- | ||
vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On December 01 2011 00:16 xtfftc wrote: Please re-read my post, especially the bit that says "you would be able to confirm your sanity after you see the flip". how can you confirm your sanity if the alignment you got was not correct? I'll show you what I mean. You check someone night 1 and you get Town Next day, that person dies and shows itself as [green]Town[/geen]. With this, you can be either Naive or Sane, right? Night 2, you check someone and get Town And then the person dies and you get Mafia Oh, so you must be Naive! No, because if the second check was framed, you'd get town anyways and you could be actually Sane. How can framing not count on that?! | ||
Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On December 01 2011 00:20 vaderseven wrote: That's prolly cuz you never made a real case on me. You scumslipped. That's all the case I need considering you never defended yourself over it. Would you like to defend your scumslip now? | ||
vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
I said that instantly on reading your post and don't get how that's a scum slip and you explained it when I asked you too. | ||
Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On November 30 2011 23:23 Hassybaby wrote: Kenpachi Ciryandor Serejai Vaderseven Sprungjeezy Mattchew cosine Hier Coagulation Keep em coming Anyone else? | ||
vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
I really doubt anyone has even bothered to look at it and see that cuz noone even mentioned it. I have to get busy here for a bit but I am going to post the highlights of my notes on people before the night is up cuz I have no idea if I will be alive in the morning with all these loud posts of shooooooooot hiiiiiiiim. | ||
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