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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 14:59 GMT
#4101
Ok then why would the Mafia commit to gambit that they can't pull off? The point I am making and you might even agree with in that post is that there is alot pointing to this not being a mass gambit to kill both elected roles.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 30 2011 14:59 GMT
#4102
I asked him to stop arguing rules with a dead person, pretty stupid to bring that up
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
November 30 2011 15:01 GMT
#4103
On November 30 2011 23:39 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, newbie DTs: you might want to consider checking players such as ciryandor and kenpachi for checking tonight. They are both very likely to be mafia and likely to die soon one way or another (lynch, vigilanties, etc). If you've been smart enough to check veteran townies such as kitaman, syllogism, jackal and the like - who all flipped green on night 1 - you would be able to confirm your sanity after you see the flip.

why cant they figure this out for themselves??
you have just recommended that DTs check 2 players who were already good target to frame!
(because they are likely to die soon.)
if a frame takes place it is possible that they might conclude they have the wrong sanity
isn't this why we do not publicly tell blues how to act unless we are attempting some form of gambit?
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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 15:01 GMT
#4104
Ya and I don't think any of the pm's caused harm but I just have a forum Mafia reflex to shy away from all OOT.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 30 2011 15:03 GMT
#4105
Annul, I have a serious question, and I hope you can answer it well. You say you started the campaign on Zeks based on that clue. Why didn't you do the same for me? What was different between the cases?
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 30 2011 15:04 GMT
#4106
On November 30 2011 23:55 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 23:40 Hassybaby wrote:
Zephirdd, you may well have a really good point there. Which means its even more important that we nail our shots tonight.

Anyone have a good read on Hier? His sudden disappearance made me super suspicious, but he was right about Kenpachi...

When I analysed his posts yesterday I couldn't make up my mind - but his subsequent disappearance reminds a lot of how zeks acted. Both attempted to defend themselves and didn't do a terrible job but stopped contributing right after.


For now he goes on then.

On November 30 2011 23:54 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 23:49 Benjef wrote:
On November 30 2011 23:45 Serejai wrote:
On November 30 2011 23:26 annul wrote:
serejai and vaderseven as well.


I want you guys to remember this post when I flip town, considering I've been saying all game that annul is mafia and also because I'm the one who originally pointed out that vaderseven is mafia.

When I flip town, take out annul. He's scum.

Why did Annul push for Zeks lynch so hard then :S?


Zeks was going to die, also. He scumslipped and was probably intended to be a bus anyway.

The only evidence annul had was a vague day 1 clue when he started accusing Zeks. Nobody but him was willing to convict based on a clue, but he kept pushing it over and over. I would personally look at the list of people who switched from Zeks to Palmar, as they were likely mafia voting to bus Zeks and get the sheep to follow, then jumped ship to their real target later. Anyone who switched from Zeks to Palmar, at any point in the voting, should be looked at.


Serajai, do us all a favour then. Please point them out. If we're up shit creek this much, we'll need as much help as we can get.
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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 30 2011 15:06 GMT
#4107
Just for the record: I have no intention to comment on the PMs sent in this thread.

On December 01 2011 00:01 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 23:39 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, newbie DTs: you might want to consider checking players such as ciryandor and kenpachi for checking tonight. They are both very likely to be mafia and likely to die soon one way or another (lynch, vigilanties, etc). If you've been smart enough to check veteran townies such as kitaman, syllogism, jackal and the like - who all flipped green on night 1 - you would be able to confirm your sanity after you see the flip.

why cant they figure this out for themselves??
you have just recommended that DTs check 2 players who were already good target to frame!
(because they are likely to die soon.)
if a frame takes place it is possible that they might conclude they have the wrong sanity
isn't this why we do not publicly tell blues how to act unless we are attempting some form of gambit?

I am talking about players who are very likely to be dead soon, so framing doesn't play a role in this. Framed or not, when kenpachi dies, he will flip, so the DTs will know whether he was mafia or town. Your post is a good indicator as to why the less experienced players might need some advise on the issue.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 30 2011 15:11 GMT
#4108
So just because people like lists

+ Show Spoiler +
ciryandor
kenpachi
serejai
vaderseven
sprungjeezy
Mattchew
cosine?

Mattchew and cosine arguments link

Who more and which of these should be lurkerbane or vigi shots?

@DT thing
A player needs the information of his check + the death of someone to determine his sanity. If he targets a framed target, his sanity test goes down. I agree with layabout on this point.
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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 30 2011 15:16 GMT
#4109
Please re-read my post, especially the bit that says "you would be able to confirm your sanity after you see the flip".
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
November 30 2011 15:17 GMT
#4110
On November 30 2011 23:30 annul wrote:
if a town vig/bane hits a mafia member who the mafia (or the RNG) has chosen to perform a night kill, is the night kill prevented?

No. Kills are resolved simultaneously in the order resolution cue.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 30 2011 15:19 GMT
#4111
On December 01 2011 00:04 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 23:55 xtfftc wrote:
On November 30 2011 23:40 Hassybaby wrote:
Zephirdd, you may well have a really good point there. Which means its even more important that we nail our shots tonight.

Anyone have a good read on Hier? His sudden disappearance made me super suspicious, but he was right about Kenpachi...

When I analysed his posts yesterday I couldn't make up my mind - but his subsequent disappearance reminds a lot of how zeks acted. Both attempted to defend themselves and didn't do a terrible job but stopped contributing right after.


For now he goes on then.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 23:54 Serejai wrote:
On November 30 2011 23:49 Benjef wrote:
On November 30 2011 23:45 Serejai wrote:
On November 30 2011 23:26 annul wrote:
serejai and vaderseven as well.


I want you guys to remember this post when I flip town, considering I've been saying all game that annul is mafia and also because I'm the one who originally pointed out that vaderseven is mafia.

When I flip town, take out annul. He's scum.

Why did Annul push for Zeks lynch so hard then :S?


Zeks was going to die, also. He scumslipped and was probably intended to be a bus anyway.

The only evidence annul had was a vague day 1 clue when he started accusing Zeks. Nobody but him was willing to convict based on a clue, but he kept pushing it over and over. I would personally look at the list of people who switched from Zeks to Palmar, as they were likely mafia voting to bus Zeks and get the sheep to follow, then jumped ship to their real target later. Anyone who switched from Zeks to Palmar, at any point in the voting, should be looked at.


Serajai, do us all a favour then. Please point them out. If we're up shit creek this much, we'll need as much help as we can get.


Actually, there was only one person who voted Zeks and switched to Palmar: vaderseven, who I've been saying for like 50 pages is mafia and nobody wanted to listed to me until Palmar flipped -_-
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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 15:20 GMT
#4112
That's prolly cuz you never made a real case on me.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 30 2011 15:22 GMT
#4113
On December 01 2011 00:16 xtfftc wrote:
Please re-read my post, especially the bit that says "you would be able to confirm your sanity after you see the flip".


how can you confirm your sanity if the alignment you got was not correct?

I'll show you what I mean.

You check someone night 1 and you get Town
Next day, that person dies and shows itself as [green]Town[/geen].

With this, you can be either Naive or Sane, right?

Night 2, you check someone and get Town
And then the person dies and you get Mafia

Oh, so you must be Naive! No, because if the second check was framed, you'd get town anyways and you could be actually Sane.


How can framing not count on that?!
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 30 2011 15:25 GMT
#4114
Actually Zeph, you could also be insane, if the original death was framed instead of the second.

But you won't be paranoid!
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 15:26 GMT
#4115
There is even more ways for that to get fucked too... That's why lists telling power roles to do x or y are bad.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 30 2011 15:26 GMT
#4116
On December 01 2011 00:20 vaderseven wrote:
That's prolly cuz you never made a real case on me.


You scumslipped. That's all the case I need considering you never defended yourself over it. Would you like to defend your scumslip now?
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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 15:28 GMT
#4117
Are you the one that said me saying that this many inactives will make it ex mode for scum especially if they get mod killed was a scum slip?

I said that instantly on reading your post and don't get how that's a scum slip and you explained it when I asked you too.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 30 2011 15:31 GMT
#4118
On November 30 2011 23:23 Hassybaby wrote:

Kenpachi
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 12:04 Kenpachi wrote:
blow me town

Ciryandor
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 12:17 Ciryandor wrote:
FUCK YOU, WE GOT BOTH PALMAR AND BC. SAY GOODBYE TO TOWN.

Serejai
Vaderseven
Sprungjeezy
Mattchew
cosine
Hier
Coagulation

Keep em coming


Anyone else?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 15:54 GMT
#4119
Meant to say you DIDNT explain it when I asked you too.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 16:14 GMT
#4120
I just to be clear that people putting me on lists and all are saying that I was saving Zeks and lynching the mayor.... Zeke wasn't saved, flipped scum, and if he had but voted could have saved himself and killed the sheriff.

I really doubt anyone has even bothered to look at it and see that cuz noone even mentioned it.

I have to get busy here for a bit but I am going to post the highlights of my notes on people before the night is up cuz I have no idea if I will be alive in the morning with all these loud posts of shooooooooot hiiiiiiiim.
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