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On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:In all seriousness, Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. this is the biggest thing I disagree with that Ace has said. It is total bull. You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Problem is I can't tell if Ace is trolling right now.
He's talking about Day 1, and this is optimal play on Day 1.
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On November 28 2011 09:34 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 09:31 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 09:26 tnkted wrote:
Ace, do you think BC is town?
If so, then it makes more sense to keep palmar alive as long as he uses his double lynches days 2 and 3. If we kill palmar, mafia knows who the bodyguards are, and we lose BC the next night, which means we lose our double lynches. So it makes more sense to keep palmar alive, as I'm seeing it.
Our next lynch tomorrow is Deconduo. If Palmar is Scum then who cares about losing our double lynches? Come on, you're smarter than this. If Palmar gets lynched then the bodyguards obviously will all roleclaim. Jesus I hate bodyguard + mayor setups. This shit is ridiculous. I'm not thinking about BC right now. Did you support the ym lynch? Why or why not? Reread the bodyguard mechanic. BC is protected by the bodyguards as well; so Mafia knows who the bodyguards are, and as long as palmar is alive they wont want to kill them, to save him from checks etc. If Palmar is lynched, BC gets control of the double lynches and becomes, effectively, mayor. I didn't support the YM lynch, but I wasn't around for much of the decussion on it. I've been pushing a deconduo post since day 1.
Maybe I should clarify. If Palmar is Scum and gets lynched, then the bodyguards might as well claim and make the information open to all of us.
What did deconduo do?
@Serejai: Good catch. However, can you prove/explain that Intrigue plays Mafia offline? If thats true then you have a solid case for him pretending to be new.
@Wbg: nothing in your explanation shows ym to be a distraction or even scummy. Sorry, I'm not buying it. Try and convince someone else. I can criticize the Day 1 lynch since you know, I'm now in the game and a Townie died for shoddy reasoning. Doesn't matter if I had a better idea, that's just ignoring the real issue. Stop asking me questions that aren't furthering the topic of Palmar.
On November 28 2011 09:41 Palmar wrote:
Rofl, Hi Ace.
Sup.
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On November 28 2011 09:50 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:In all seriousness, On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. this is the biggest thing I disagree with that Ace has said. It is total bull. You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Problem is I can't tell if Ace is trolling right now. He's talking about Day 1, and this is optimal play on Day 1.
so you're saying we should've lynched you on day 1?
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On November 28 2011 09:35 Serejai wrote:INTRIGUE THE MAFIA SCUM First, his entire post history in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=19405As you can see he's playing the "I don't have a clue what I'm doing" card. However, there's one major flaw with this approach: intrigue plays mafia offlineHe knows exactly what he's doing. So why would he pretend to be a complete newb? Because he's trying to hide his role by making people feel like he isn't a threat. Lynch intrigueAlso mafia and coming soon: sandroba
Palmar
supersoft
redFF
Greymist
Annul
kitaman
Kurumi
wherebugsgo
Yes, he is playing very similarly to how I played in XXXIX
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On November 28 2011 09:53 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 09:50 sinani206 wrote:On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:In all seriousness, On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. this is the biggest thing I disagree with that Ace has said. It is total bull. You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Problem is I can't tell if Ace is trolling right now. He's talking about Day 1, and this is optimal play on Day 1. so you're saying we should've lynched you on day 1?
no because im active and useful 
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LOL god this game is hilarious
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On November 28 2011 09:45 Palmar wrote:
Yo, I'm watching NFL, I just sent iGrok and Mr. Wiggles a message I'm activating the double lynch.
See you tomorrow.
yay football
^
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half-inside joke from school that i believe responds to this post with three levels of humor
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On November 28 2011 09:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
LOL god this game is hilarious
no you are just over-opinionated
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On November 28 2011 09:53 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 09:34 tnkted wrote:On November 28 2011 09:31 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 09:26 tnkted wrote:
Ace, do you think BC is town?
If so, then it makes more sense to keep palmar alive as long as he uses his double lynches days 2 and 3. If we kill palmar, mafia knows who the bodyguards are, and we lose BC the next night, which means we lose our double lynches. So it makes more sense to keep palmar alive, as I'm seeing it.
Our next lynch tomorrow is Deconduo. If Palmar is Scum then who cares about losing our double lynches? Come on, you're smarter than this. If Palmar gets lynched then the bodyguards obviously will all roleclaim. Jesus I hate bodyguard + mayor setups. This shit is ridiculous. I'm not thinking about BC right now. Did you support the ym lynch? Why or why not? Reread the bodyguard mechanic. BC is protected by the bodyguards as well; so Mafia knows who the bodyguards are, and as long as palmar is alive they wont want to kill them, to save him from checks etc. If Palmar is lynched, BC gets control of the double lynches and becomes, effectively, mayor. I didn't support the YM lynch, but I wasn't around for much of the decussion on it. I've been pushing a deconduo post since day 1. Maybe I should clarify. If Palmar is Scum and gets lynched, then the bodyguards might as well claim and make the information open to all of us. What did deconduo do?
Hmm, I guess that makes sense. But if palmar gets lynched, and BC is town, BC is as good as dead. So my point still stands: if we want our double lynches, we should keep palmar alive until he uses them.
And I'm going to have to find time here to sit down and do a proper analysis of decon, for which I don't have time right now unfortunately. It has to be done though, if its going to convince anyone to vote for him.
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80 person games are so hard to keep up with x.x
I'll just put in my $0.02 so I can attempt to contribute a little.
Everybody who ninja-changed their vote to BC to make him sheriff seem pretty suspicious. Reading through that section of the thread, none of them posted any significant reason to change their vote to BC and BC did not make any significant posts in that time iirc.
Serejai also seems suspicious for supporting BC for no apparent reason that I could find and his logic is extremely flawed such as here:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 27 2011 09:26 Serejai wrote:
Secure your votes in me, the only candidate that is 100% confirmed as town based on the fact I'm still in the game at this point, and help town achieve victory with a day one lynch of supersoft the mafia scum. I will then lynch two mafia a day from then out, starting with the trolls/lurkers like intrigue and kurumi. This was before even day1 lynch.
He also calls out people as mafia or town with very little evidence to support it.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 27 2011 05:18 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 05:10 Match wrote:
Liking Kitaman's plan. Palmar was my first choice for mayor and since he's probably getting it I'm switching my vote to Kitaman to make him sheriff. What plan? You are mafia. Annul is mafia and after his last-minute push failed his fellow mafia member kitaman decided to start his last minute push. Vote sinani206 or BloodyC0bbler. All other candidates are mafia. On November 27 2011 06:04 Serejai wrote:Sounds like a mafia thing to say. You claim I'm useless, but then want to waste a vig on me. Kurumi is scum.
Sounds like scum to me.....
I'll be back for the day2 post. Reading through all those pages took a lot longer than i thought. -.-
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since the double lynch is guaranteed for tomorrow I'm fine with lynching decon+serejai tomorrow.
Serejai wants to be useless, so the only two solutions to dealing with him are ignoring him or killing him.
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On November 28 2011 10:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
since the double lynch is guaranteed for tomorrow I'm fine with lynching decon+serejai tomorrow.
Serejai wants to be useless, so the only two solutions to dealing with him are ignoring him or killing him.
How is he useless?
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read his posts. I don't need to argue anything in favor of my argument if you just read serejai's filter.
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On November 28 2011 09:46 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 09:35 Serejai wrote:INTRIGUE THE MAFIA SCUM First, his entire post history in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=19405As you can see he's playing the "I don't have a clue what I'm doing" card. However, there's one major flaw with this approach: intrigue plays mafia offlineHe knows exactly what he's doing. So why would he pretend to be a complete newb? Because he's trying to hide his role by making people feel like he isn't a threat. Lynch intrigueAlso mafia and coming soon: sandroba
Palmar
supersoft
redFF
Greymist
Annul
kitaman
Kurumi
wherebugsgo Does he really play mafia in other forums? That's indeed suspisious. I'm sold on Palmar being a scum as well. For the rest no opinion at the moment.
I can indeed prove intrigue plays mafia offline. See the following post by a random TLer:
On November 21 2011 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I've got a few more.
I was a MLG Raleigh attendee (If you watched the stream, I was the guy with the 10' long ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ banner) I got to meet quite a few players, I even got to have a pretty long conversation with Ret, Sheth, and HayprO about Zerg. I'd say I shook hands with just about every famous player there, and it was a surreal experience.
I was also lucky enough to be one of the staff flown out to IPL 3. While I was there I got to have drinks with quite a few players, I got to play against White-Ra once while he was at the Playhem booth. I was also the only white guy in the staff outside when the SlayerS limo arrived. I got my picture with BoxeR which was really cool for me, and I watched the finals with Ryung and ThorZain. I was in the elevator with Stephano after his victory, it was hilarious to see everyone staring at the guy walking through the casino with a giant check. I proceeded to stay up all night in the Liquid lounge with Hot_Bid, Orb, intrigue, and the rest of the guys there playing Mafia. My shuttle back to the airport featured my second long encounter with Ret.
What's yours?
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On November 28 2011 09:58 ohN wrote:80 person games are so hard to keep up with x.x I'll just put in my $0.02 so I can attempt to contribute a little. Everybody who ninja-changed their vote to BC to make him sheriff seem pretty suspicious. Reading through that section of the thread, none of them posted any significant reason to change their vote to BC and BC did not make any significant posts in that time iirc. Serejai also seems suspicious for supporting BC for no apparent reason that I could find and his logic is extremely flawed such as here: + Show Spoiler +On November 27 2011 09:26 Serejai wrote:
Secure your votes in me, the only candidate that is 100% confirmed as town based on the fact I'm still in the game at this point, and help town achieve victory with a day one lynch of supersoft the mafia scum. I will then lynch two mafia a day from then out, starting with the trolls/lurkers like intrigue and kurumi. This was before even day1 lynch. He also calls out people as mafia or town with very little evidence to support it. + Show Spoiler +On November 27 2011 05:18 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 05:10 Match wrote:
Liking Kitaman's plan. Palmar was my first choice for mayor and since he's probably getting it I'm switching my vote to Kitaman to make him sheriff. What plan? You are mafia. Annul is mafia and after his last-minute push failed his fellow mafia member kitaman decided to start his last minute push. Vote sinani206 or BloodyC0bbler. All other candidates are mafia. On November 27 2011 06:04 Serejai wrote:Sounds like a mafia thing to say. You claim I'm useless, but then want to waste a vig on me. Kurumi is scum. Sounds like scum to me..... I'll be back for the day2 post. Reading through all those pages took a lot longer than i thought. -.-
Could you tell me who those guys are who ninja-ed to bc? Because I changed to bc like 2 hours before the deadline I think. However I think I did a fairly good explanation why I changed my vote. So either I'm not on your list for ninjaing or you tell me I did not explain why, which would be a mistake by you or a joke imo.
So, what timeframe is a "ninjavote" for you?
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RoyGBiv_13 is replaced by Zephridd.
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On November 28 2011 10:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
read his posts. I don't need to argue anything in favor of my argument if you just read serejai's filter.
you made the accusation, the burden of proof is on you.
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On November 28 2011 10:05 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 09:46 Steveling wrote:On November 28 2011 09:35 Serejai wrote:INTRIGUE THE MAFIA SCUM First, his entire post history in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=19405As you can see he's playing the "I don't have a clue what I'm doing" card. However, there's one major flaw with this approach: intrigue plays mafia offlineHe knows exactly what he's doing. So why would he pretend to be a complete newb? Because he's trying to hide his role by making people feel like he isn't a threat. Lynch intrigueAlso mafia and coming soon: sandroba
Palmar
supersoft
redFF
Greymist
Annul
kitaman
Kurumi
wherebugsgo Does he really play mafia in other forums? That's indeed suspisious. I'm sold on Palmar being a scum as well. For the rest no opinion at the moment. I can indeed prove intrigue plays mafia offline. See the following post by a random TLer: Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I've got a few more.
I was a MLG Raleigh attendee (If you watched the stream, I was the guy with the 10' long ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ banner) I got to meet quite a few players, I even got to have a pretty long conversation with Ret, Sheth, and HayprO about Zerg. I'd say I shook hands with just about every famous player there, and it was a surreal experience.
I was also lucky enough to be one of the staff flown out to IPL 3. While I was there I got to have drinks with quite a few players, I got to play against White-Ra once while he was at the Playhem booth. I was also the only white guy in the staff outside when the SlayerS limo arrived. I got my picture with BoxeR which was really cool for me, and I watched the finals with Ryung and ThorZain. I was in the elevator with Stephano after his victory, it was hilarious to see everyone staring at the guy walking through the casino with a giant check. I proceeded to stay up all night in the Liquid lounge with Hot_Bid, Orb, intrigue, and the rest of the guys there playing Mafia. My shuttle back to the airport featured my second long encounter with Ret.
What's yours?
Oh look.
A misleading argument.
He asked if intrigue plays mafia on forums, not in real life.
Real life mafia is very much unlike forum mafia. Stop trolling.
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Ace, see my post above about intrigue. I forgot to quote your post as well but it was in response to you, too.
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On November 28 2011 10:07 Serejai wrote:
Ace, see my post above about intrigue. I forgot to quote your post as well but it was in response to you, too.
I saw it. It's very damning but there is a possible explanation that I won't comment on until Intrigue posts.
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