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wherebugsgo is defending intrigue, who lied about being new to mafia when in fact intrigue is a top level player from my experiences with him at IPL3. Scum buddies much?
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On November 28 2011 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 10:05 Serejai wrote:On November 28 2011 09:46 Steveling wrote:On November 28 2011 09:35 Serejai wrote:INTRIGUE THE MAFIA SCUM First, his entire post history in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=19405As you can see he's playing the "I don't have a clue what I'm doing" card. However, there's one major flaw with this approach: intrigue plays mafia offlineHe knows exactly what he's doing. So why would he pretend to be a complete newb? Because he's trying to hide his role by making people feel like he isn't a threat. Lynch intrigueAlso mafia and coming soon: sandroba
Palmar
supersoft
redFF
Greymist
Annul
kitaman
Kurumi
wherebugsgo Does he really play mafia in other forums? That's indeed suspisious. I'm sold on Palmar being a scum as well. For the rest no opinion at the moment. I can indeed prove intrigue plays mafia offline. See the following post by a random TLer: On November 21 2011 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I've got a few more.
I was a MLG Raleigh attendee (If you watched the stream, I was the guy with the 10' long ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ banner) I got to meet quite a few players, I even got to have a pretty long conversation with Ret, Sheth, and HayprO about Zerg. I'd say I shook hands with just about every famous player there, and it was a surreal experience.
I was also lucky enough to be one of the staff flown out to IPL 3. While I was there I got to have drinks with quite a few players, I got to play against White-Ra once while he was at the Playhem booth. I was also the only white guy in the staff outside when the SlayerS limo arrived. I got my picture with BoxeR which was really cool for me, and I watched the finals with Ryung and ThorZain. I was in the elevator with Stephano after his victory, it was hilarious to see everyone staring at the guy walking through the casino with a giant check. I proceeded to stay up all night in the Liquid lounge with Hot_Bid, Orb, intrigue, and the rest of the guys there playing Mafia. My shuttle back to the airport featured my second long encounter with Ret.
What's yours? Oh look. A misleading argument. He asked if intrigue plays mafia on forums, not in real life. Real life mafia is very much unlike forum mafia. Stop trolling.
Maybe you shouldn't misrepresent what he's saying yourself. It was about Intrigue pretending to be new to Mafia. If he has played Mafia offline then he isn't new.
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On November 27 2011 01:44 Serejai wrote:
All of the candidates seem sketchy to me as well. That's why I voted for sinani206. He may not be putting up a serious campaign but he's a veteran player and is far less scummy than the other people running for mayor. I'd rather have a veteran in office (even if he's a troll) than a veteran in office.
he also calls anyone who ever has a suspicion of him scum.
It's the most OMGUS I've ever seen out of one person.
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On November 28 2011 09:35 Serejai wrote:INTRIGUE THE MAFIA SCUM First, his entire post history in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=19405As you can see he's playing the "I don't have a clue what I'm doing" card. However, there's one major flaw with this approach: intrigue plays mafia offlineHe knows exactly what he's doing. So why would he pretend to be a complete newb? Because he's trying to hide his role by making people feel like he isn't a threat. Lynch intrigueAlso mafia and coming soon: sandroba
Palmar
supersoft
redFF
Greymist
Annul
kitaman
Kurumi
wherebugsgo
On November 28 2011 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 10:05 Serejai wrote:On November 28 2011 09:46 Steveling wrote:On November 28 2011 09:35 Serejai wrote:INTRIGUE THE MAFIA SCUM First, his entire post history in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=19405As you can see he's playing the "I don't have a clue what I'm doing" card. However, there's one major flaw with this approach: intrigue plays mafia offlineHe knows exactly what he's doing. So why would he pretend to be a complete newb? Because he's trying to hide his role by making people feel like he isn't a threat. Lynch intrigueAlso mafia and coming soon: sandroba
Palmar
supersoft
redFF
Greymist
Annul
kitaman
Kurumi
wherebugsgo Does he really play mafia in other forums? That's indeed suspisious. I'm sold on Palmar being a scum as well. For the rest no opinion at the moment. I can indeed prove intrigue plays mafia offline. See the following post by a random TLer: On November 21 2011 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I've got a few more.
I was a MLG Raleigh attendee (If you watched the stream, I was the guy with the 10' long ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ banner) I got to meet quite a few players, I even got to have a pretty long conversation with Ret, Sheth, and HayprO about Zerg. I'd say I shook hands with just about every famous player there, and it was a surreal experience.
I was also lucky enough to be one of the staff flown out to IPL 3. While I was there I got to have drinks with quite a few players, I got to play against White-Ra once while he was at the Playhem booth. I was also the only white guy in the staff outside when the SlayerS limo arrived. I got my picture with BoxeR which was really cool for me, and I watched the finals with Ryung and ThorZain. I was in the elevator with Stephano after his victory, it was hilarious to see everyone staring at the guy walking through the casino with a giant check. I proceeded to stay up all night in the Liquid lounge with Hot_Bid, Orb, intrigue, and the rest of the guys there playing Mafia. My shuttle back to the airport featured my second long encounter with Ret.
What's yours? Oh look. A misleading argument. He asked if intrigue plays mafia on forums, not in real life. Real life mafia is very much unlike forum mafia. Stop trolling.
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On November 28 2011 10:10 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 28 2011 10:05 Serejai wrote:On November 28 2011 09:46 Steveling wrote:On November 28 2011 09:35 Serejai wrote:INTRIGUE THE MAFIA SCUM First, his entire post history in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=19405As you can see he's playing the "I don't have a clue what I'm doing" card. However, there's one major flaw with this approach: intrigue plays mafia offlineHe knows exactly what he's doing. So why would he pretend to be a complete newb? Because he's trying to hide his role by making people feel like he isn't a threat. Lynch intrigueAlso mafia and coming soon: sandroba
Palmar
supersoft
redFF
Greymist
Annul
kitaman
Kurumi
wherebugsgo Does he really play mafia in other forums? That's indeed suspisious. I'm sold on Palmar being a scum as well. For the rest no opinion at the moment. I can indeed prove intrigue plays mafia offline. See the following post by a random TLer: On November 21 2011 14:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I've got a few more.
I was a MLG Raleigh attendee (If you watched the stream, I was the guy with the 10' long ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ banner) I got to meet quite a few players, I even got to have a pretty long conversation with Ret, Sheth, and HayprO about Zerg. I'd say I shook hands with just about every famous player there, and it was a surreal experience.
I was also lucky enough to be one of the staff flown out to IPL 3. While I was there I got to have drinks with quite a few players, I got to play against White-Ra once while he was at the Playhem booth. I was also the only white guy in the staff outside when the SlayerS limo arrived. I got my picture with BoxeR which was really cool for me, and I watched the finals with Ryung and ThorZain. I was in the elevator with Stephano after his victory, it was hilarious to see everyone staring at the guy walking through the casino with a giant check. I proceeded to stay up all night in the Liquid lounge with Hot_Bid, Orb, intrigue, and the rest of the guys there playing Mafia. My shuttle back to the airport featured my second long encounter with Ret.
What's yours? Oh look. A misleading argument. He asked if intrigue plays mafia on forums, not in real life. Real life mafia is very much unlike forum mafia. Stop trolling. Maybe you shouldn't misrepresent what he's saying yourself. It was about Intrigue pretending to be new to Mafia. If he has played Mafia offline then he isn't new.
I'm not misrepresenting shit and you know it.
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Ok, I need to go to bed because I have work in the morning and its 1am here...but before I go
On November 28 2011 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 09:58 ohN wrote:80 person games are so hard to keep up with x.x I'll just put in my $0.02 so I can attempt to contribute a little. Everybody who ninja-changed their vote to BC to make him sheriff seem pretty suspicious. Reading through that section of the thread, none of them posted any significant reason to change their vote to BC and BC did not make any significant posts in that time iirc. Serejai also seems suspicious for supporting BC for no apparent reason that I could find and his logic is extremely flawed such as here: + Show Spoiler +On November 27 2011 09:26 Serejai wrote:
Secure your votes in me, the only candidate that is 100% confirmed as town based on the fact I'm still in the game at this point, and help town achieve victory with a day one lynch of supersoft the mafia scum. I will then lynch two mafia a day from then out, starting with the trolls/lurkers like intrigue and kurumi. This was before even day1 lynch. He also calls out people as mafia or town with very little evidence to support it. + Show Spoiler +On November 27 2011 05:18 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 05:10 Match wrote:
Liking Kitaman's plan. Palmar was my first choice for mayor and since he's probably getting it I'm switching my vote to Kitaman to make him sheriff. What plan? You are mafia. Annul is mafia and after his last-minute push failed his fellow mafia member kitaman decided to start his last minute push. Vote sinani206 or BloodyC0bbler. All other candidates are mafia. On November 27 2011 06:04 Serejai wrote:Sounds like a mafia thing to say. You claim I'm useless, but then want to waste a vig on me. Kurumi is scum. Sounds like scum to me..... I'll be back for the day2 post. Reading through all those pages took a lot longer than i thought. -.- Could you tell me who those guys are who ninja-ed to bc? Because I changed to bc like 2 hours before the deadline I think. However I think I did a fairly good explanation why I changed my vote. So either I'm not on your list for ninjaing or you tell me I did not explain why, which would be a mistake by you or a joke imo. So, what timeframe is a "ninjavote" for you?
I'd quite like to know this as well, because I'm in the same boat as Toad. I changed about 4 hours before the deadline (IIRC). That a ninjavote too?
Also, ohN, where've you been recently? You hopped on about 3 days ago to state where you stood, then disappeared until just now.
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So Ace, do you, after reading through everything I've produced this game, including my decision to lynch YM, genuinely think that the only possible way of explaining my posting and my actions, is that I must be scum?
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On November 26 2011 20:32 intrigue wrote:
anyhow, sorry if this is all dumb and elementary, i wanted to get my bearings in my first TL mafia game!
Intrigue never once said this is first mafia game. Just his first TL mafia game.
I don't actually know why I'm bothering feeding you trolls, but I thought I'd at least show this for clarity so a bunch of noobs don't start randomly believing serejai, Ace, and sinani.
So far Ace has does nothing to suggest he is trustworthy.
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Ok keep reading whatever you want to. The Serejai post you quoted doesn't even show him calling "anyone who finds him suspicious as scum".
But tomorrow we'll be dealing with Palmar, and others depending on how this night goes. Maybe you should hold off on Serejai accusations until you have a stronger case. Right now you're operating on paper-thin statements.
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On November 28 2011 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 20:32 intrigue wrote:
anyhow, sorry if this is all dumb and elementary, i wanted to get my bearings in my first TL mafia game! Intrigue never once said this is first mafia game. Just his first TL mafia game. I don't actually know why I'm bothering feeding you trolls, but I thought I'd at least show this for clarity so a bunch of noobs don't start randomly believing serejai, Ace, and sinani. So far Ace has does nothing to suggest he is trustworthy.
lol. Did I accuse Intrigue or did I say Serejai has a case that is damning but it depends on what Intrigue says? I'll wait.
On November 28 2011 10:13 Palmar wrote:
So Ace, do you, after reading through everything I've produced this game, including my decision to lynch YM, genuinely think that the only possible way of explaining my posting and my actions, is that I must be scum?
Yes. Can you explain why you lynched YM? Also what have you produced? Be careful how you answer it because I'm even telling you right now - it is a trap question. Have fun.
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the point with serejai is that his accusations are either paper-thin himself or onelines.
Yesterday I thought he's scum, today I'm thinking (after reading his filter again) he's a trolling town and I don't know what I'm going to think tomorrow. Guess he's just a nullread for me.
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I would also note that after filterting Serejaia's posts besides some spammy one liners and something that looked like a personal vendetta between him and redff all other posts are pretty solid.
In fact Palmer quickly turned on him after being accused as scum and that demands attention considering the false lynch on ym.
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Awe, first to die out of 80 
Good luck town!
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okay Ace, try this:
On November 26 2011 02:55 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:On November 26 2011 02:52 Serejai wrote:
People who have not posted yet and who, if anyone, they voted for:
Tyrran
Vain
eezyBash
Mattchew (Greymist > Palmar)
Belial-
MrZentor
dukethegold
iLoveKT
t3tsubo (Bloodyc0bbler)
cosine (Greymist)
Chanyman (Sandroba)
Penke
ArcticRaven
ptz
Soap (Sandroba)
RoyGBiv_13
Coagulation
Holyflare (Sandroba)
tree.hugger
TheToast
vaderseven
RogerX (Palmar - "Got convinced man")
Gavin
spartan N30 (Greymist - "For best username besides TLO")
Lemonwalrus and? that's not a contribution http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=68386Compared to your contributions mine looks pretty good!
Serejai later calls Kurumi scum:
On November 27 2011 06:04 Serejai wrote:Sounds like a mafia thing to say. You claim I'm useless, but then want to waste a vig on me. Kurumi is scum.
On November 27 2011 01:55 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 01:48 supersoft wrote:
sinani is no veteran. go read my post about him. He's like the worst possible mayor out of the players I know. Your main post about him: Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 15:36 supersoft wrote:
lol sinani. Seriously. If someone votes you, I am worried about this persons state of mind. Care to elaborate? You followed it up with "I'm prejudice against him". You have yet to provide any solid reasoning to back up your claims other than constantly repeating that you don't like him. Sounds like supersoft has an anti-town agenda.
Calls supersoft scum because supersoft calls anyone who votes sinani crazy. (or at least mentally incapable of being rational, from what I can tell)
Later he half asses an attempt to rationalize this argument.
I say we should vig/lynch Serejai and he immediately responds with this:
On November 27 2011 11:57 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 11:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh shit I forgot serejai!
Hi I'm a scum
and calls me scum.
when GreYMisT says Serejai would make a good day 1 lynch he calls GreYMisT scum:
On November 27 2011 12:03 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 11:57 GreYMisT wrote:On November 27 2011 11:56 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 11:10 GreYMisT wrote:
@Palmar:
As stated before I am fine with a YM lynch, but I would also like you to consider my points about Serejai. I think both are adequate lynch targets day 1 Typical mafia move. I called out you and your buddy Palmar and so now you want to get rid of me. It's ok. Your mafia-dominated mayor race will backfire in the end once the town veterans start catching on to your game. you still havn't actually resonded to my analysis of your post, or did you care not to read it? probally the latter. You want to waste a lynch on sinani or myself and you also support Palmar and sandroba for mayor. Sorry but it's really obvious you're pushing a scum agenda here. GreYMisT
so yeah, Ace, your head is up your ass.
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On November 28 2011 10:20 wherebugsgo wrote:okay Ace, try this: Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 02:55 Serejai wrote:On November 26 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:On November 26 2011 02:52 Serejai wrote:
People who have not posted yet and who, if anyone, they voted for:
Tyrran
Vain
eezyBash
Mattchew (Greymist > Palmar)
Belial-
MrZentor
dukethegold
iLoveKT
t3tsubo (Bloodyc0bbler)
cosine (Greymist)
Chanyman (Sandroba)
Penke
ArcticRaven
ptz
Soap (Sandroba)
RoyGBiv_13
Coagulation
Holyflare (Sandroba)
tree.hugger
TheToast
vaderseven
RogerX (Palmar - "Got convinced man")
Gavin
spartan N30 (Greymist - "For best username besides TLO")
Lemonwalrus and? that's not a contribution http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=68386Compared to your contributions mine looks pretty good! Serejai later calls Kurumi scum: Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 06:04 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 06:03 Kurumi wrote:
Serejai needs to be vigied fast. Sounds like a mafia thing to say. You claim I'm useless, but then want to waste a vig on me. Kurumi is scum. Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 01:55 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 01:48 supersoft wrote:
sinani is no veteran. go read my post about him. He's like the worst possible mayor out of the players I know. Your main post about him: On November 24 2011 15:36 supersoft wrote:
lol sinani. Seriously. If someone votes you, I am worried about this persons state of mind. Care to elaborate? You followed it up with "I'm prejudice against him". You have yet to provide any solid reasoning to back up your claims other than constantly repeating that you don't like him. Sounds like supersoft has an anti-town agenda. Calls supersoft scum because supersoft calls anyone who votes sinani crazy. (or at least mentally incapable of being rational, from what I can tell) Later he half asses an attempt to rationalize this argument. I say we should vig/lynch Serejai and he immediately responds with this: Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 11:57 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 11:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh shit I forgot serejai!
Hi I'm a scum and calls me scum. when GreYMisT says Serejai would make a good day 1 lynch he calls GreYMisT scum: Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 12:03 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 11:57 GreYMisT wrote:On November 27 2011 11:56 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 11:10 GreYMisT wrote:
@Palmar:
As stated before I am fine with a YM lynch, but I would also like you to consider my points about Serejai. I think both are adequate lynch targets day 1 Typical mafia move. I called out you and your buddy Palmar and so now you want to get rid of me. It's ok. Your mafia-dominated mayor race will backfire in the end once the town veterans start catching on to your game. you still havn't actually resonded to my analysis of your post, or did you care not to read it? probally the latter. You want to waste a lynch on sinani or myself and you also support Palmar and sandroba for mayor. Sorry but it's really obvious you're pushing a scum agenda here. GreYMisT so yeah, Ace, your head is up your ass.
Would have been nice if you showed this the first time. By the way why are you foaming at the mouth trying so hard to attack me? I've been transparent this entire time. Why are you so worried?
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On November 28 2011 10:19 Steveling wrote:
I would also note that after filterting Serejaia's posts besides some spammy one liners and something that looked like a personal vendetta between him and redff all other posts are pretty solid.
In fact Palmer quickly turned on him after being accused as scum and that demands attention considering the false lynch on ym.
honestly you need to go back and read more carefully.
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Mafia tend to worry a lot. It's part of the game.
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On November 28 2011 10:22 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 10:20 wherebugsgo wrote:okay Ace, try this: On November 26 2011 02:55 Serejai wrote:On November 26 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:On November 26 2011 02:52 Serejai wrote:
People who have not posted yet and who, if anyone, they voted for:
Tyrran
Vain
eezyBash
Mattchew (Greymist > Palmar)
Belial-
MrZentor
dukethegold
iLoveKT
t3tsubo (Bloodyc0bbler)
cosine (Greymist)
Chanyman (Sandroba)
Penke
ArcticRaven
ptz
Soap (Sandroba)
RoyGBiv_13
Coagulation
Holyflare (Sandroba)
tree.hugger
TheToast
vaderseven
RogerX (Palmar - "Got convinced man")
Gavin
spartan N30 (Greymist - "For best username besides TLO")
Lemonwalrus and? that's not a contribution http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=68386Compared to your contributions mine looks pretty good! Serejai later calls Kurumi scum: On November 27 2011 06:04 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 06:03 Kurumi wrote:
Serejai needs to be vigied fast. Sounds like a mafia thing to say. You claim I'm useless, but then want to waste a vig on me. Kurumi is scum. On November 27 2011 01:55 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 01:48 supersoft wrote:
sinani is no veteran. go read my post about him. He's like the worst possible mayor out of the players I know. Your main post about him: On November 24 2011 15:36 supersoft wrote:
lol sinani. Seriously. If someone votes you, I am worried about this persons state of mind. Care to elaborate? You followed it up with "I'm prejudice against him". You have yet to provide any solid reasoning to back up your claims other than constantly repeating that you don't like him. Sounds like supersoft has an anti-town agenda. Calls supersoft scum because supersoft calls anyone who votes sinani crazy. (or at least mentally incapable of being rational, from what I can tell) Later he half asses an attempt to rationalize this argument. I say we should vig/lynch Serejai and he immediately responds with this: On November 27 2011 11:57 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 11:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh shit I forgot serejai!
Hi I'm a scum and calls me scum. when GreYMisT says Serejai would make a good day 1 lynch he calls GreYMisT scum: On November 27 2011 12:03 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 11:57 GreYMisT wrote:On November 27 2011 11:56 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 11:10 GreYMisT wrote:
@Palmar:
As stated before I am fine with a YM lynch, but I would also like you to consider my points about Serejai. I think both are adequate lynch targets day 1 Typical mafia move. I called out you and your buddy Palmar and so now you want to get rid of me. It's ok. Your mafia-dominated mayor race will backfire in the end once the town veterans start catching on to your game. you still havn't actually resonded to my analysis of your post, or did you care not to read it? probally the latter. You want to waste a lynch on sinani or myself and you also support Palmar and sandroba for mayor. Sorry but it's really obvious you're pushing a scum agenda here. GreYMisT so yeah, Ace, your head is up your ass. Would have been nice if you showed this the first time. By the way why are you foaming at the mouth trying so hard to attack me? I've been transparent this entire time. Why are you so worried?
I'm not worried.
If you're scum, people will perhaps learn to not listen to you. If you're town, this will perhaps teach you to stop trolling since you're simply being dumb right now. I want to lynch serejai. You got a problem with that?
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