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Dammit...I was just about to say:
Teach me your ways Ace. Be the Boxer to my iloveoov!
But back on topic, x you asked me to look at super. Well, I had a read through his posts. Didn't see any major scummy indicators IMO, but then Ace sorta came in, so 'id love to sere what he's gonna say about it.
One thing struck me as weird:
On November 25 2011 19:46 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 19:38 Ciryandor wrote:On November 25 2011 19:26 supersoft wrote:
this game would be much more fun if i were mafia:
i'd play like wbg or redFF, flooding the whole thread with bullshit. Just a question, then why lurk? That's like doing a WIFOM of what you are. I know you think that Sand/Palmar's candidacy are the best bets for town, why not provide support for them and at least downplay others' concerns if you think they're townie and they deserve your support? maybe i dont think that? so far i think only wbg and redff are town. but these two arent capable to be mayor. they're just too spammy/emotional etc. if palmar and sandroba fail to convince me, i am going to try to find someone alse.
Something doesn't sounds right there. How can you say they're flooding the thread with bullshit, then say straight after that they're town? They're vets, so they should know better right?
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On November 28 2011 08:42 Benjef wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
But I'm too bad (first game) to put a decent case on him / being bullied/accused into being scum >< */scared of being bullied/accused of being scum. I should read over what I say lol
To hell with that, us newbies should form a dictatorshipour own opinions and voice them as well as we can.
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Im catching up on the game now
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On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him.
youngminii isn't a bad player at all. In fact he had a decent amount of posts. Let's keep that in mind.
In any game of Mafia with a day start everyone that is Town aligned has no information outside of themselves barring special circumstances.
Also keep in mind that lynches are used to get rid of Scum.
The Mayor gets his 1 time auto-lynch. Who should he lynch?
Remember, the Mayor if Town doesn't know who is Scum. He is just as much in the dark as everyone else.
So why would you lynch youngminii?
The only justification is if he can be proven to be Scum. But it's a day start, hence Palmar doesn't have enough information to justify lynching an active player.
Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. YM doesn't fit either of these criteria. The Mayor abused his power to get rid of someone who he didn't like. Which even if he was Town-aligned shows our Mayor isn't fit enough for office to think clearly and take dissenting opinions without making a bold move.
But Palmar is a decent player (far, far, far below my level but still). So he should know better than to do that. Combine his expected behavior with his ridiculous actions = Scum Mayor.
supersoft is terrible so you want to get rid of him asap. Easily sheeped into doing Scummy things. Very possible he is Scum.
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On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. youngminii isn't a bad player at all. In fact he had a decent amount of posts. Let's keep that in mind. In any game of Mafia with a day start everyone that is Town aligned has no information outside of themselves barring special circumstances. Also keep in mind that lynches are used to get rid of Scum. The Mayor gets his 1 time auto-lynch. Who should he lynch? Remember, the Mayor if Town doesn't know who is Scum. He is just as much in the dark as everyone else. So why would you lynch youngminii?The only justification is if he can be proven to be Scum. But it's a day start, hence Palmar doesn't have enough information to justify lynching an active player. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. YM doesn't fit either of these criteria. The Mayor abused his power to get rid of someone who he didn't like. Which even if he was Town-aligned shows our Mayor isn't fit enough for office to think clearly and take dissenting opinions without making a bold move. But Palmar is a decent player (far, far, far below my level but still). So he should know better than to do that. Combine his expected behavior with his ridiculous actions = Scum Mayor. supersoft is terrible so you want to get rid of him asap. Easily sheeped into doing Scummy things. Very possible he is Scum.
LOL
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On November 28 2011 08:43 Hassybaby wrote:Dammit...I was just about to say: Teach me your ways Ace. Be the Boxer to my iloveoov! But back on topic, x you asked me to look at super. Well, I had a read through his posts. Didn't see any major scummy indicators IMO, but then Ace sorta came in, so 'id love to sere what he's gonna say about it. One thing struck me as weird: Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 19:46 supersoft wrote:On November 25 2011 19:38 Ciryandor wrote:On November 25 2011 19:26 supersoft wrote:
this game would be much more fun if i were mafia:
i'd play like wbg or redFF, flooding the whole thread with bullshit. Just a question, then why lurk? That's like doing a WIFOM of what you are. I know you think that Sand/Palmar's candidacy are the best bets for town, why not provide support for them and at least downplay others' concerns if you think they're townie and they deserve your support? maybe i dont think that? so far i think only wbg and redff are town. but these two arent capable to be mayor. they're just too spammy/emotional etc. if palmar and sandroba fail to convince me, i am going to try to find someone alse. Something doesn't sounds right there. How can you say they're flooding the thread with bullshit, then say straight after that they're town? They're vets, so they should know better right?
supersoft is a typical sheep. However if he's easily pandering to Palmar and handroba to convince him that just reeks of Scum selling his vote (until it hits an ally).
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On November 28 2011 08:50 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. youngminii isn't a bad player at all. In fact he had a decent amount of posts. Let's keep that in mind. In any game of Mafia with a day start everyone that is Town aligned has no information outside of themselves barring special circumstances. Also keep in mind that lynches are used to get rid of Scum. The Mayor gets his 1 time auto-lynch. Who should he lynch? Remember, the Mayor if Town doesn't know who is Scum. He is just as much in the dark as everyone else. So why would you lynch youngminii?The only justification is if he can be proven to be Scum. But it's a day start, hence Palmar doesn't have enough information to justify lynching an active player. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. YM doesn't fit either of these criteria. The Mayor abused his power to get rid of someone who he didn't like. Which even if he was Town-aligned shows our Mayor isn't fit enough for office to think clearly and take dissenting opinions without making a bold move. But Palmar is a decent player (far, far, far below my level but still). So he should know better than to do that. Combine his expected behavior with his ridiculous actions = Scum Mayor. supersoft is terrible so you want to get rid of him asap. Easily sheeped into doing Scummy things. Very possible he is Scum. Ace = Pro
100% agreed.
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On November 28 2011 08:52 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. youngminii isn't a bad player at all. In fact he had a decent amount of posts. Let's keep that in mind. In any game of Mafia with a day start everyone that is Town aligned has no information outside of themselves barring special circumstances. Also keep in mind that lynches are used to get rid of Scum. The Mayor gets his 1 time auto-lynch. Who should he lynch? Remember, the Mayor if Town doesn't know who is Scum. He is just as much in the dark as everyone else. So why would you lynch youngminii?The only justification is if he can be proven to be Scum. But it's a day start, hence Palmar doesn't have enough information to justify lynching an active player. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. YM doesn't fit either of these criteria. The Mayor abused his power to get rid of someone who he didn't like. Which even if he was Town-aligned shows our Mayor isn't fit enough for office to think clearly and take dissenting opinions without making a bold move. But Palmar is a decent player (far, far, far below my level but still). So he should know better than to do that. Combine his expected behavior with his ridiculous actions = Scum Mayor. supersoft is terrible so you want to get rid of him asap. Easily sheeped into doing Scummy things. Very possible he is Scum. Ace = Pro Ace=Noob
fixed biatch
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In all seriousness,
On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless.
this is the biggest thing I disagree with that Ace has said. It is total bull.
You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else.
Problem is I can't tell if Ace is trolling right now.
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On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:In all seriousness, Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. this is the biggest thing I disagree with that Ace has said. It is total bull. You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Problem is I can't tell if Ace is trolling right now.
You lynch who you think is most likely to be Scum when the entire Town can discuss it. Auto-lynching youngminii though? On Day 1? With jus 1 person controlling it?
Come on, that is a major reach. Hell, anyone can kill or vote for who they think are Scum. But that doesn't mean we should excuse their actions. I've read up on ym's posts and Palmar's also. Can you show me something that can justify Palmar really believing that out of 80 players ym was Scum? Show me some credible Scum behavior that should result in a lynch on Day 1 when we are all in our least informed state.
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Something tells me we haven't even seen the surface of troll-Ace, and I only just got here
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Hmm, I think this game suddenly got a lot more interesting with Ace thrown into the mix, should be fun seeing how Palmer responds to this.
I agree with most of what Ace has said so far except the lynching of an inactive as for the reasons wbg said that they are probably just a bored town.
Anyway I'm going to bed now, I'll try and form some bigger post tommorow on my views on some people if I have time
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On November 28 2011 08:59 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:In all seriousness, On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. this is the biggest thing I disagree with that Ace has said. It is total bull. You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Problem is I can't tell if Ace is trolling right now. You lynch who you think is most likely to be Scum when the entire Town can discuss it. Auto-lynching youngminii though? On Day 1? With jus 1 person controlling it? Come on, that is a major reach. Hell, anyone can kill or vote for who they think are Scum. But that doesn't mean we should excuse their actions. I've read up on ym's posts and Palmar's also. Can you show me something that can justify Palmar really believing that out of 80 players ym was Scum? Show me some credible Scum behavior that should result in a lynch on Day 1 when we are all in our least informed state.
On November 24 2011 18:37 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +I am one of the most transparent player in this game, my town play is top notch, my scum play is pretty bad
Unlike some other candidates, you can actually call me out for being wrong, because I'm not bad This is a lie. Your scum play is better than your town play, according to memory.
On November 24 2011 22:05 youngminii wrote:
See you guys have already been sucked in by Palmar's smooth talking. When did I ever say Palmar's scum is better than his town? That's just a strawman that Palmar invented to make his own points stronger.
On November 24 2011 18:56 youngminii wrote:
Why are you avoiding the fact that you lied?[ You know as well as every other player who's played more than 1 game here that your scum is something to be scared of. Yet you go for a strict LAL policy. That by itself should warrant your death.
On November 26 2011 16:19 youngminii wrote:
I believe sinani.
On November 27 2011 03:43 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 03:34 syllogism wrote:
Further, time is ticking and you aren't here to discuss your lynch All according to his scummy mastermind plan. Not much we can do about it honestly, there's too many people sucked up in his words. What we can focus on is the sheriff. I don't want sandroba to come second. I want someone else to be jailer. Perhaps sinani.
On November 27 2011 05:24 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 05:20 Benjef wrote:On November 27 2011 05:18 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 05:10 Match wrote:
Liking Kitaman's plan. Palmar was my first choice for mayor and since he's probably getting it I'm switching my vote to Kitaman to make him sheriff. What plan? You are mafia. Annul is mafia and after his last-minute push failed his fellow mafia member kitaman decided to start his last minute push. Vote sinani206 or BloodyC0bbler. All other candidates are mafia. Wait really? Vote Sinani206? You have read his posts right? I would make a better Mayor and this is my first game.... Yes but you're not a VeteranAnd I mean honestly, there's no real reason to post too much on day 1 except for the standard blending in. A lot of the trolling veterans will start playing seriously once the game thins out a bit. And the logic in his substantial posts check out.
looks pretty fucking useless to me.
He also lied.
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[B]On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else.
Except, why would anyone think youngmini was likely scum? Going through his posts all I can find is that he strongly opposed Palamar and then towards then end BC. His only crime was fighting against the tide of people voting for who we ended up with in power?
I suppose if you buy the whole, "His scum play is better than his town play" thing as a lie, but I that sure read more as opinion than stating outright fact.
Again, what did we gain by auto lynching youngmini? Any new information? Perhaps on Palamar and BC, but so far people (myself included) have been prone to letting a few people dictate the discussions. This has to stop now and we as newbies need to get in here and make some choices.
Why are you defending this lynch so hard? Is it because you were a key catalyst to it?
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On November 28 2011 09:03 Benjef wrote:
I agree with most of what Ace has said so far except the lynching of an inactive as for the reasons wbg said that they are probably just a bored town.
Well I'll put it another way:
No one has a strong Scum read on Day 1. Who would you rather lynch: A player that is active or someone that isn't posting? We know there a bunch of players that will possibily be mod-killed - why auto-lynch youngminii when he was posting over someone who wasn't?
The only way to justify it would be to prove that ym was acting scummy which he wasn't unless someone can show me evidence that I have missed.
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On November 28 2011 09:04 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 08:59 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:In all seriousness, On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. this is the biggest thing I disagree with that Ace has said. It is total bull. You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Problem is I can't tell if Ace is trolling right now. You lynch who you think is most likely to be Scum when the entire Town can discuss it. Auto-lynching youngminii though? On Day 1? With jus 1 person controlling it? Come on, that is a major reach. Hell, anyone can kill or vote for who they think are Scum. But that doesn't mean we should excuse their actions. I've read up on ym's posts and Palmar's also. Can you show me something that can justify Palmar really believing that out of 80 players ym was Scum? Show me some credible Scum behavior that should result in a lynch on Day 1 when we are all in our least informed state. Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 18:37 youngminii wrote:I am one of the most transparent player in this game, my town play is top notch, my scum play is pretty bad
Unlike some other candidates, you can actually call me out for being wrong, because I'm not bad This is a lie. Your scum play is better than your town play, according to memory. Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 22:05 youngminii wrote:
See you guys have already been sucked in by Palmar's smooth talking. When did I ever say Palmar's scum is better than his town? That's just a strawman that Palmar invented to make his own points stronger.
Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 18:56 youngminii wrote:
Why are you avoiding the fact that you lied?[ You know as well as every other player who's played more than 1 game here that your scum is something to be scared of. Yet you go for a strict LAL policy. That by itself should warrant your death. Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 03:43 youngminii wrote:On November 27 2011 03:34 syllogism wrote:
Further, time is ticking and you aren't here to discuss your lynch All according to his scummy mastermind plan. Not much we can do about it honestly, there's too many people sucked up in his words. What we can focus on is the sheriff. I don't want sandroba to come second. I want someone else to be jailer. Perhaps sinani. Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 05:24 youngminii wrote:On November 27 2011 05:20 Benjef wrote:On November 27 2011 05:18 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 05:10 Match wrote:
Liking Kitaman's plan. Palmar was my first choice for mayor and since he's probably getting it I'm switching my vote to Kitaman to make him sheriff. What plan? You are mafia. Annul is mafia and after his last-minute push failed his fellow mafia member kitaman decided to start his last minute push. Vote sinani206 or BloodyC0bbler. All other candidates are mafia. Wait really? Vote Sinani206? You have read his posts right? I would make a better Mayor and this is my first game.... Yes but you're not a VeteranAnd I mean honestly, there's no real reason to post too much on day 1 except for the standard blending in. A lot of the trolling veterans will start playing seriously once the game thins out a bit. And the logic in his substantial posts check out. looks pretty fucking useless to me. He also lied.
I don't see what looks useless here.
What did he lie about?
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On November 28 2011 09:06 ey215 wrote:Show nested quote +[B]On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Except, why would anyone think youngmini was likely scum? Going through his posts all I can find is that he strongly opposed Palamar and then towards then end BC. His only crime was fighting against the tide of people voting for who we ended up with in power? I suppose if you buy the whole, "His scum play is better than his town play" thing as a lie, but I that sure read more as opinion than stating outright fact. Again, what did we gain by auto lynching youngmini? Any new information? Perhaps on Palamar and BC, but so far people (myself included) have been prone to letting a few people dictate the discussions. This has to stop now and we as newbies need to get in here and make some choices. Why are you defending this lynch so hard? Is it because you were a key catalyst to it?
As an aside don't be intimated about being new. Experience matters only but so much in this game. Being able to think and be logical while expressing yourself is far more important, which isn't a trait that comes with more games. My first game here I lollerskated it like a pro. You can too.
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On November 28 2011 09:06 ey215 wrote:Show nested quote +[B]On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Except, why would anyone think youngmini was likely scum? Going through his posts all I can find is that he strongly opposed Palamar and then towards then end BC. His only crime was fighting against the tide of people voting for who we ended up with in power? I suppose if you buy the whole, "His scum play is better than his town play" thing as a lie, but I that sure read more as opinion than stating outright fact. Again, what did we gain by auto lynching youngmini? Any new information? Perhaps on Palamar and BC, but so far people (myself included) have been prone to letting a few people dictate the discussions. This has to stop now and we as newbies need to get in here and make some choices. Why are you defending this lynch so hard? Is it because you were a key catalyst to it?
I'm defending it because I would support it again in a heartbeat. I just provided you with a list of quotes that support youngminii looking like scum. He played badly, obviously, but he played in a scum manner.
Think about it. He lied and then tried to spin his own lie to say his target is using a strawman. That's misleading AND stupid. He seeded doubt among town with no supporting evidence. He barely contributed anything. He supported SINANI for mayor. I don't know very much about youngminii's play, but if Ace is right that he is a good player then, IMO, he played pretty badly in this game.
the simple fact that youngminii was confirmed to lie is enough, since that's generally more than enough to lynch someone. LaL isn't a policy for nothing.
My second choice was deconduo, who hopefully gets lynched tomorrow.
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On November 28 2011 09:08 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 09:04 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 28 2011 08:59 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:In all seriousness, On November 28 2011 08:47 Ace wrote:On November 28 2011 08:39 Benjef wrote:
Haha I love this Ace guy already. Any reasoning behind your want to lynch Palmer? Hes done a pretty good job of protecting himself so far but I'm still not 100% sold on him. Typically you want to lynch someone that is inactive or known to be useless. this is the biggest thing I disagree with that Ace has said. It is total bull. You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Problem is I can't tell if Ace is trolling right now. You lynch who you think is most likely to be Scum when the entire Town can discuss it. Auto-lynching youngminii though? On Day 1? With jus 1 person controlling it? Come on, that is a major reach. Hell, anyone can kill or vote for who they think are Scum. But that doesn't mean we should excuse their actions. I've read up on ym's posts and Palmar's also. Can you show me something that can justify Palmar really believing that out of 80 players ym was Scum? Show me some credible Scum behavior that should result in a lynch on Day 1 when we are all in our least informed state. On November 24 2011 18:37 youngminii wrote:I am one of the most transparent player in this game, my town play is top notch, my scum play is pretty bad
Unlike some other candidates, you can actually call me out for being wrong, because I'm not bad This is a lie. Your scum play is better than your town play, according to memory. On November 24 2011 22:05 youngminii wrote:
See you guys have already been sucked in by Palmar's smooth talking. When did I ever say Palmar's scum is better than his town? That's just a strawman that Palmar invented to make his own points stronger.
On November 24 2011 18:56 youngminii wrote:
Why are you avoiding the fact that you lied?[ You know as well as every other player who's played more than 1 game here that your scum is something to be scared of. Yet you go for a strict LAL policy. That by itself should warrant your death. On November 26 2011 16:19 youngminii wrote:
I believe sinani. On November 27 2011 03:43 youngminii wrote:On November 27 2011 03:34 syllogism wrote:
Further, time is ticking and you aren't here to discuss your lynch All according to his scummy mastermind plan. Not much we can do about it honestly, there's too many people sucked up in his words. What we can focus on is the sheriff. I don't want sandroba to come second. I want someone else to be jailer. Perhaps sinani. On November 27 2011 05:24 youngminii wrote:On November 27 2011 05:20 Benjef wrote:On November 27 2011 05:18 Serejai wrote:On November 27 2011 05:10 Match wrote:
Liking Kitaman's plan. Palmar was my first choice for mayor and since he's probably getting it I'm switching my vote to Kitaman to make him sheriff. What plan? You are mafia. Annul is mafia and after his last-minute push failed his fellow mafia member kitaman decided to start his last minute push. Vote sinani206 or BloodyC0bbler. All other candidates are mafia. Wait really? Vote Sinani206? You have read his posts right? I would make a better Mayor and this is my first game.... Yes but you're not a VeteranAnd I mean honestly, there's no real reason to post too much on day 1 except for the standard blending in. A lot of the trolling veterans will start playing seriously once the game thins out a bit. And the logic in his substantial posts check out. looks pretty fucking useless to me. He also lied. I don't see what looks useless here. What did he lie about?
He lied about calling Palmar's scum play better than his town play.
First two quotes.
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On November 28 2011 09:10 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2011 09:06 ey215 wrote:[B]On November 28 2011 08:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
You always lynch whoever you think is most likely to be scum. The players who have a history of being useless are more likely to be bored town than anything else. Except, why would anyone think youngmini was likely scum? Going through his posts all I can find is that he strongly opposed Palamar and then towards then end BC. His only crime was fighting against the tide of people voting for who we ended up with in power? I suppose if you buy the whole, "His scum play is better than his town play" thing as a lie, but I that sure read more as opinion than stating outright fact. Again, what did we gain by auto lynching youngmini? Any new information? Perhaps on Palamar and BC, but so far people (myself included) have been prone to letting a few people dictate the discussions. This has to stop now and we as newbies need to get in here and make some choices. Why are you defending this lynch so hard? Is it because you were a key catalyst to it? As an aside don't be intimated about being new. Experience matters only but so much in this game. Being able to think and be logical while expressing yourself is far more important, which isn't a trait that comes with more games. My first game here I lollerskated it like a pro. You can too.
Honestly, as a newbie it's all the meta references that have made it really hard to keep up with what the hell is going on but we'll just have to push through it.
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