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On November 19 2011 00:46 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots. I can relate to your list though I don't agree with all the reads (pending re-reading I'd say harbringer could be scum, and prplhz could be town). I´m ticked off by this. Of course prplhz COULD be Town, but I don´t think it´s very likely after some of his actions around the sinani lynch and earlier. Is there something specific in his play that makes you want to defend him, have you found a solid breadcrumb among his posts, do you have a strong hunch about him, or is it something else?
pending re-reading, as I already said.
Notice the list-formatted posts I'm doing, I have a couple of 180's on reads in them, those are the result of me re-reading the thread.
I just had a town gut on him early, remember that he was one of the people I did my initial alignment analysis on.
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On November 19 2011 00:53 risk.nuke wrote:
Palmar & Chaoser, what do you think of xsksc.
null tell right now, he's been on Drazerk since the beginning of the game. A DT check on him would be nice but not needed, mafia always come out by end game (see LOTR)
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On November 19 2011 00:53 risk.nuke wrote:
Palmar & Chaoser, what do you think of xsksc.
I already gave a little bit of insight into my thoughts on him in this post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12326737
His opening post isn't terrible, although it is very generic. It doesn't add anything meaningful to the discussion, but I have seen townies act like this before. I would say this gives him a few scum points, but not too much.
On November 15 2011 16:50 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 16:28 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
People should post opinions on 1) Tunneling people, 2) Use of the multilynch system and 3) The use of the multilynch system in regards to lurkers. 1) I'm assuming this means focusing solely on getting 1 person lynched? If it does, we obviously want to avoid that and keep an open mind. 2) I think the multi-lynch system looks really interesting, and could be a great help if we use it properly. If we have a couple of people who are posting suspiciously then we don't have to decide which one is scummier, because we're not limited to one lynch, we can judge them seperately and lynch them both (if it comes to that). 3) We shouldn't go overboard with the use of this on lurkers, maybe lynch 1 lurker a day with it, in addition to the people we think are scum.
His case against Drazerk is very weak, and I find it interesting that he can have such a strong scumread on someone who has done so little in the game. He is basically accusing Drazerk of posting one-liners which is well.. correct. Does that have anything to do with Drazerk's alignment? I'm not sure it does.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12312721
Yes Drazerk has acted like a complete idiot this game, but generally speaking it's more likely townies act like idiots.
He keeps the pressure on Drazerk, which is also interesting, and doesn't really give much thought on anything else happening in the game. Again, the tunnelvision on one thing and one thing only can be attributed to both newbie town and scum.
Forumite and I have both put on pressure on him, and he hasn't slipped in his defense yet, which gives him town points.
I guess the verdict on him would have to be: Slightly scummy, but not conclusive.
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On November 19 2011 00:30 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
Okey I think I just specifically said I don't want to see lists without reasoning. So xsksc your next post better explain that list with arguments.
Sure.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
His posts seem very pro-town to me, he made a convincing case on chaoser, he didn't join the silly lynches. I don't think he's scum.
palmar
Same as wherebugsgo basically. I agree with most of his reads, he's made some pretty strong cases imo. His posts seem townie to me.
risk.nuke
I could definitely be wrong here, your agressiveness towards people I think are scummy makes you look town. However you voted in BOTH of the lynches, so I'm not too sure about you.
harbingerofdoom
Already said it in my other post. He was pretty agressive to drazerk early on, before he got a lot of votes, and if I'm correct and drazerk is red, HoD looks pretty town to me.
lanaia
I wasn't sure before kenpachi flipped, but I think she just made a mistake in revealing her role day 1.
forumite
He made some pretty weird cases early, I don't think scum would make such blatantly obvious attempts at starting a bandwagon, I think he was just trying to get information. He also seemed eager for a drazerk lynch, which makes me think he's town.
I don't have solid cases on my scum list apart from Drazerk, and if you want to see my case on him just filter me. A lot of my list is just general vibes and feelings at the moment, some of the townies could be scum, and vice versa.
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I don't think my case on him is weak Palmar. What reason could a townie possibly have to be posting like drazerk is? His defence of "I'mbadtownlol" and "I'm not gonna get lynched" is pretty appalling.
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On November 19 2011 00:57 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:46 Forumite wrote:On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots. I can relate to your list though I don't agree with all the reads (pending re-reading I'd say harbringer could be scum, and prplhz could be town). I´m ticked off by this. Of course prplhz COULD be Town, but I don´t think it´s very likely after some of his actions around the sinani lynch and earlier. Is there something specific in his play that makes you want to defend him, have you found a solid breadcrumb among his posts, do you have a strong hunch about him, or is it something else? pending re-reading, as I already said. Notice the list-formatted posts I'm doing, I have a couple of 180's on reads in them, those are the result of me re-reading the thread. I just had a town gut on him early, remember that he was one of the people I did my initial alignment analysis on.
I can understand that, I wrote him off as Town early too, but that changed. I am looking forward to hearing your opinion once you recheck him.
I don´t know if I like people putting me on the townlist or not. Feels like a I get a gold medal, while simultaneously a huge target is painted on my forehead.
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On November 17 2011 19:44 Coagulation wrote:
Cause people love lists
chaoser
wherebugsgo
Drazerk
bumatlarge
theres scum in there somewhere.
How did you arrive at those conclusions? I have Bum and Drazerk on my list as well.
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On November 18 2011 23:50 Palmar wrote:
I was under the impression Lanaia has played quite a bit on globalgamers (IRC mafia) I recall something about that from PTP2. If I'm wrong, well then I'm sorry I guess.
IRC mafia is not the same as forum mafia. I am a hell of a lot better at IRC mafia than at forum mafia.
Also, I'm really sorry if I don't post much within the next... 12 hours (unless the highway is shut down, I'll be working tonight).
I hate this feeling I have. I want everyone who is currently active to be town (though that is highly unlikely).
Right now, I feel that only one of chaoser and Palmar can be scum (leaning Palmar); however they could technically be both town, but I get the feeling scum would not try to bus day one, am I correct in thinking this?
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On November 19 2011 02:11 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 23:50 Palmar wrote:
I was under the impression Lanaia has played quite a bit on globalgamers (IRC mafia) I recall something about that from PTP2. If I'm wrong, well then I'm sorry I guess.
IRC mafia is not the same as forum mafia. I am a hell of a lot better at IRC mafia than at forum mafia. Also, I'm really sorry if I don't post much within the next... 12 hours (unless the highway is shut down, I'll be working tonight). I hate this feeling I have. I want everyone who is currently active to be town (though that is highly unlikely). Right now, I feel that only one of chaoser and Palmar can be scum (leaning Palmar); however they could technically be both town, but I get the feeling scum would not try to bus day one, am I correct in thinking this?
Knowing Palmar, he's already tried to bus his whole team, but Chaoser wouldn't have.
If I'm not around tomorrow, keep in mind that starting all this 'people I think are town' during the night is painting targets for the mafia, and Palmar started it.
I have a very busy weekend so my contributions will of a lower quality until Monday.
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On November 19 2011 01:08 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:30 risk.nuke wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
Okey I think I just specifically said I don't want to see lists without reasoning. So xsksc your next post better explain that list with arguments. Sure. People I think are town :wherebugsgo His posts seem very pro-town to me, he made a convincing case on chaoser, he didn't join the silly lynches. I don't think he's scum. palmarSame as wherebugsgo basically. I agree with most of his reads, he's made some pretty strong cases imo. His posts seem townie to me. risk.nukeI could definitely be wrong here, your agressiveness towards people I think are scummy makes you look town. However you voted in BOTH of the lynches, so I'm not too sure about you. harbingerofdoomAlready said it in my other post. He was pretty agressive to drazerk early on, before he got a lot of votes, and if I'm correct and drazerk is red, HoD looks pretty town to me. lanaiaI wasn't sure before kenpachi flipped, but I think she just made a mistake in revealing her role day 1. forumiteHe made some pretty weird cases early, I don't think scum would make such blatantly obvious attempts at starting a bandwagon, I think he was just trying to get information. He also seemed eager for a drazerk lynch, which makes me think he's town. I don't have solid cases on my scum list apart from Drazerk, and if you want to see my case on him just filter me. A lot of my list is just general vibes and feelings at the moment, some of the townies could be scum, and vice versa.
Town reads don't really help us at all, What are your scum reads? If you think palmar is town, then do you agree with his case against chaoser? Similarly because you arediscounting LSB's arguments against palmar, do you think he is misguided? or is there something more sinister going on.
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I gave my scum reads a page back Grey :p. I'm pretty suspicious of chaos. Wherebugsgo and Palmar made a pretty good case on him. LSB I haven't looked too closely at yet, but I'll filter him later when I have time. Going out to a party now and I probably won't be back till mid-morning.
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People who I think are scum -
Lanaia
Palmar
Coagulation
Nisani201
Forumite
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People who I think are scum:
wherebugsgo
Palmar
Drazerk
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wtf stupid caps lock
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On November 19 2011 03:42 sinani206 wrote:wtf stupid caps lock
You were already warned; you're not supposed to post in the thread.
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Why is he active as soon as he dies?
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On November 19 2011 03:42 sinani206 wrote:
:LURK:
stop posting when dead -.-
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Why don't I appear on any lists 
I would rather wait until morning to start discussing again so I can start throwing down votes, I trust the remaining blues to use their roles wisely.
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