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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 14:44 GMT
#1161
Since, according to you, I've been useless as well as scummy to boot
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 18 2011 14:45 GMT
#1162
On November 16 2011 00:22 Sabin010 wrote:
I think its too early to start random lynching. I'm sure some of the lurkers are blues and have yet to get a chance to even check their role. We could get lucky and kill scum, but I have seen to many games where we lose our cop or doc first day and end up wasting our time as the mob picks us off.

Seriously??? Reading the thread to find out who started this.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 14:50 GMT
#1163
I was under the impression Lanaia has played quite a bit on globalgamers (IRC mafia) I recall something about that from PTP2. If I'm wrong, well then I'm sorry I guess.

Because chaoser, believe it or not, my entire case against you is based on the assumption that you're very good at mafia, I said right at the start of the game that you are a top 5 player in this game. If I happen to be wrong, I would like to minimize the damage town takes from me being wrong. Now I don't think I am wrong, but I am playing to win, not playing to prove myself awesome.

You will not be useless if you're town, I trust that. So I see no reason you should be shot like any common scummy fucker, you deserve a trial and a lynch.
Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 14:53 GMT
#1164
lol...so the reason you don't want me shot, even though you think i'm like 90% mafia is because you respect me...and thus I deserve a trial and lynch instead of a bullet?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 14:55 GMT
#1165
Because chaoser, believe it or not, my entire case against you is based on the assumption that you're very good at mafia, I said right at the start of the game that you are a top 5 player in this game. If I happen to be wrong, I would like to minimize the damage town takes from me being wrong.


So you're saying your case has no weight in it at all since it's entirely based on the fact that in your mind I'm not playing "good" (I think you mean well). And was that a backhanded insult lol?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 14:56 GMT
#1166
yah, do you have a problem with that?

Like, I'm almost just as certain that nisani201 is scum, and I don't care if some hero of the town shoots him and leaves him dead in a ditch, he's not going to be useful anyway. Even if he's town nothing of value was lost.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 14:58 GMT
#1167
On November 18 2011 23:55 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
Because chaoser, believe it or not, my entire case against you is based on the assumption that you're very good at mafia, I said right at the start of the game that you are a top 5 player in this game. If I happen to be wrong, I would like to minimize the damage town takes from me being wrong.


So you're saying your case has no weight in it at all since it's entirely based on the fact that in your mind I'm not playing "good" (I think you mean well). And was that a backhanded insult lol?


The case does of course have weight in it, but yes, if someone else had done exactly what you did I may have drawn a different conclusion. Why do you care so much?
Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 15:01 GMT
#1168
Cause I don't think I've ever seen someone say, hey I think you're scum! But I respect you so I want you to die by lynch instead of getting shot by vigi!

If someone thought someone else was mafia you 100% call to shoot the fuck out of them. Pretty sure most people will find this exchange we just had interesting though.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 15:05 GMT
#1169
I'm reading through various filters and looking at interactions at the moment. this post will be written as a flow of my thoughts, I'll just point out whatever that strikes me as odd or interesting.

Part 1

  • I wanted Greymist checked, I don't think it's necessary, after re-reading his filter the way he went about his accusations towards sinani206 wasn't scummy. It was not completely thought through, but it seems to have been done with a pretty good mindset. In addition he seems to be willing to listen to reason. I'm leaning town on him right now.

  • There is very little to go on with hyshes, I would like him to post more and give better reads, but this post in particular:
    I don't have the luxury like you of having played before with him. But i do need information. And something is telling me this could be a good call.
    ##Vote: sinani206
    Looks unforced and genuine, again, I would not want to look much harder at him at this moment.

  • Fucking chaoser is interrupting me, damnit.

  • sabin010 is a complete null-read at the moment. The straightforward answer he gave to Forumite's misunderstood scumslip (mob) probably pushes him a tiny bit towards town, but it's very much subject to change.

  • Actually, despite what I just said, after re-reading Nisani's filter, I think he should not be vigged tonight, seems like he's being the town kind of useless and bad instead of the scum kind of useless and bad. It's hard to tell the difference but something about it makes me think he's less a scum after re-reading his filter.

Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 15:05 GMT
#1170
Oh also, you never answered my question about why you thought kenpachi was a good lynch but sinani wasn't an equally good lynch.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 15:10 GMT
#1171
On November 19 2011 00:05 chaoser wrote:
Oh also, you never answered my question about why you thought kenpachi was a good lynch but sinani wasn't an equally good lynch.


Cause I'm awesome, also, as risk.nuke pointed out, lynching Kenpachi was a good way of handling the Lanaia/Kenpachi situation.

sinani206 didn't look like scum, I said it in the the thread that the easiest explanation was that he was town. Of course town went ahead and lynched him anyway, but hey... that's what towns tend to do.
Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 15:15 GMT
#1172
Oh and also:

Thing is, he's throwing around one-liners. Drazerk generally at least tries to look town when he's town, but maybe this is the latest development in town play, a lot of players (myself, for example) get a bit cocky once they're over their newbie phase.

However, we know Drazerk isn't dumb. The only attack he's actually made in the game is against a newbie, which is a safe attack (attacking a veteran as scum is risky, cause they will call you out), and he wasn't completely convinced by my case on chaoser.


On November 17 2011 07:56 Palmar wrote:
I forgot Drazerk, will do now


(He never does until he's asked about it again...a day later)

On November 17 2011 23:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 23:24 xsksc wrote:
Palmar, what are your thoughts on Drazerk?
While I agree that Chaos would be a decent lynch, I see Drazerk as way more suspicious at the moment and I'd rather lynch him.


Drazerk has done some extremely bad things this game, the most hilarious of all was when he went through his own games go convince us he's bad at this.

I mean... I have no words, his actual defense is that he is terrible at mafia? I would be fine with lynching Drazerk or even Bumatlarge. I just want another lynch outside of Kenpachi, and I have been convinced that Lanaia should be left alive for now, mostly by risk.nuke and tyrren whom I both consider town.

I don't have time right now to build a case against Drazerk, and because I only think we should lynch one person outside of Kenpachi today, my attention is completely on chaoser, whom I consider very likely to be scum at the moment.

We need a single lynch for today based on analysis. We've already achieved a Kenpachi lynch, and we're ruling out Lanaia for now. I think this lynch should be chaoser, but I encourage people to make a case for someone else.


(He still doesn't do it)

##Unvote Drazerk
##Unvote Coagulation


(Unvotes the guy?)

If we have vigilantes they should be focusing on people who are hellbent on being useless and scummy to boot.

Nisani201
Drazerk
xskxc


(But then wants to shoot him?)

Click your own filter, you have 1 post that consists of more than 5-ish lines, and even that has very little information. Your primary responsibility as town is to establish your innocence and being transparent, with almost nothing to go on except you chasing after Drazerk you look pretty bad.

In fact, the fact that you question it so genuinely is probably the most townie thing you've done the entire game. That doesn't change the fact that while we are aware you want to lynch Drazerk, you haven't done much to share any of your other reads.


(Then bitches at xskxc for "only going after Drazerk" when he himself has predominately only gone after me?)

I is confused
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#1173
looks like someone has an agendaaaaaa
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#1174
Accusing me of changing my mind?

And what are you implying with "doesn't do it"? I forgot to write an analysis on Tyrran, but I later delivered (and was pleasantly surprised by what I found).

Stop posting this bullshit, I'm trying to read through everyone's filter.
Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 15:21 GMT
#1175
pst, btw, if you really thought I was scum and wanted me dead for it, you'd shoot me cause clearly, going by my vote numbers on day 1, I'm nowhere close to being suspected as scum. So if I'm actually as good a player as you say I am, surely if I was mafia I could avoid being lynched for a few more days while "mucking things up" as you say I've been doing day one. Why allow me that chance when you could have just asked for someone to shoot me?

TL,DR: If I'm scum then surely allowing me a chance to "stand trial and be lynched" would be more trouble and more of a mess for town than just asking a vigi to shoot me. So why are you doing that?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
November 18 2011 15:23 GMT
#1176
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.

I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.

People I think are town :

wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite

People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :

prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus

That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.

Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 15:23 GMT
#1177
Cause I'm only 90% confident in my reads, like, I know I'm on something like a 8-9 game streak of pushing mafia as day 1 lynch when I'm town, but that doesn't give me the right to be cocky or arrogant about it. Now go read the rest of the game, you're getting boring.
Computer says mafia
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
November 18 2011 15:23 GMT
#1178
On November 18 2011 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Sinani206's play is so far from optimal for town that it's borderline disgusting, that doesn't change the fact I deduced he wasn't mafia and did not vote for him. I did not expect sinani206 to play well, he never does.


literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 18 2011 15:24 GMT
#1179
On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.

I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.

People I think are town :

wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite

People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :

prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus

That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.

Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.



well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots.

I can relate to your list though I don't agree with all the reads (pending re-reading I'd say harbringer could be scum, and prplhz could be town).
Computer says mafia
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 18 2011 15:25 GMT
#1180
On November 19 2011 00:23 Palmar wrote:
Cause I'm only 90% confident in my reads, like, I know I'm on something like a 8-9 game streak of pushing mafia as day 1 lynch when I'm town, but that doesn't give me the right to be cocky or arrogant about it. Now go read the rest of the game, you're getting boring.


wow...I didn't realize being 90% confident in your reads would still mean you doubt them so much that you'd want someone to be investigated instead of killed on the spot. So that must mean you're more then 90% confident that Drazerk and such are mafia? Since you asked for them to be shot?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
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