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On November 18 2011 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Sinani206's play is so far from optimal for town that it's borderline disgusting, that doesn't change the fact I deduced he wasn't mafia and did not vote for him. I did not expect sinani206 to play well, he never does.
On November 19 2011 00:23 sinani206 wrote: 
You didn't expect sinani to play well and yet you somehow expected Lanaia and Kenpachi to play well and because Lanaia made a mistake/didn't play well she needed to be lynched? Mind blown
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Why do you care so much?
Stop posting this bullshit, I'm trying to read through everyone's filter.
Now go read the rest of the game, you're getting boring.
Why are you afraid of the pressure Palmar? I'm just trying to be a good player like you said I was
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On November 19 2011 00:25 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:23 Palmar wrote:
Cause I'm only 90% confident in my reads, like, I know I'm on something like a 8-9 game streak of pushing mafia as day 1 lynch when I'm town, but that doesn't give me the right to be cocky or arrogant about it. Now go read the rest of the game, you're getting boring. wow...I didn't realize being 90% confident in your reads would still mean you doubt them so much that you'd want someone to be investigated instead of killed on the spot. So that must mean you're more then 90% confident that Drazerk and such are mafia? Since you asked for them to be shot?
Please stop the ridiculousness already.
You are active and smart enough to be properly interrogated, you're going to provide cases and you will show your true colors. Shitty people will probably just respond with oneliners and useless stuff, so they're better dealt with by vigilantes.
You know this.
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On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
Okey I think I just specifically said I don't want to see lists without reasoning. So xsksc your next post better explain that list with arguments.
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On November 19 2011 00:26 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Sinani206's play is so far from optimal for town that it's borderline disgusting, that doesn't change the fact I deduced he wasn't mafia and did not vote for him. I did not expect sinani206 to play well, he never does.
You didn't expect sinani to play well and yet you somehow expected Lanaia and Kenpachi to play well and because Lanaia made a mistake/didn't play well she needed to be lynched? Mind blown
I don't see the problem.
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On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots. I can relate to your list though I don't agree with all the reads (pending re-reading I'd say harbringer could be scum, and prplhz could be town).
The reason HoD is on my town list is because he voted drazerk before most people. I'm reasonably confident that drazerk is scum, which would make HoD almost confirmed townie to me. And yeah the prphlz thing is really just a feeling at the moment, I don't have anything solid on him.
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On November 19 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:25 chaoser wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 Palmar wrote:
Cause I'm only 90% confident in my reads, like, I know I'm on something like a 8-9 game streak of pushing mafia as day 1 lynch when I'm town, but that doesn't give me the right to be cocky or arrogant about it. Now go read the rest of the game, you're getting boring. wow...I didn't realize being 90% confident in your reads would still mean you doubt them so much that you'd want someone to be investigated instead of killed on the spot. So that must mean you're more then 90% confident that Drazerk and such are mafia? Since you asked for them to be shot? Please stop the ridiculousness already. You are active and smart enough to be properly interrogated, you're going to provide cases and you will show your true colors. Shitty people will probably just respond with oneliners and useless stuff, so they're better dealt with by vigilantes. You know this.
And yet on day one you wanted to outright lynch me and to deny me the chance to "show my true colors" while coag gets a pass because he would "show his true colors" as the game went on.
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On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote:
well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots.
Good that you said that out loud. In your previous post it sounded as if you were sub-messaging viggis to shoot night 1.
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On November 19 2011 00:33 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots. I can relate to your list though I don't agree with all the reads (pending re-reading I'd say harbringer could be scum, and prplhz could be town). The reason HoD is on my town list is because he voted drazerk before most people. I'm reasonably confident that drazerk is scum, which would make HoD almost confirmed townie to me. And yeah the prphlz thing is really just a feeling at the moment, I don't have anything solid on him.
What kind of reasoning is that? With so much votes needed to lynch scum will always vote between themselves.
Not that i see drazerk as scum.. can anyone please explain to my why you guys do?
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Part 2
- Kibibit is just another semi-lurking null-read. He does have some interesting ideas that look like attempts at genuine contribution, but I'm not willing to actually give him a town stamp at the moment, but I think others should be looked at before him.
- Zephirdd is almost definitely town, gotta roll with that at the moment, I see no reason to try and hang him at the moment. I would rather we focused on the red looking people or the null-reads. I like this guy.
- Lemonwalrus is null, leaning slightly towards scum. I don't like much of what he's posted, but it's not clearly scummy, just a bit off at the moment. I would actually suggest him as a great DT check tonight.
- Bumatlarge has made some very strange moves, the prime one being this one
Coag only posted twice, but I do recall him lurking in the beginning last time I played with him. I forget if he was a scum that game. I'd be more afraid of active scum Coag, then lurking scum coag, as vets who lurk have no presence in a game with a lot of fresh faces Now, I'm not saying he's completely wrong, I'm just saying that it makes no sense for town to give an excuse for lurking. Another good candidate for a DT check.
- cyber_cheese is just very hard to read in general. So I'm just gonna have to stick him as a null read for now. I know he's capable of playing aggressively as scum, but this looks like a more thought out version of cheese's play, which can be explained by him being town.
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On November 19 2011 00:34 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote:On November 19 2011 00:25 chaoser wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 Palmar wrote:
Cause I'm only 90% confident in my reads, like, I know I'm on something like a 8-9 game streak of pushing mafia as day 1 lynch when I'm town, but that doesn't give me the right to be cocky or arrogant about it. Now go read the rest of the game, you're getting boring. wow...I didn't realize being 90% confident in your reads would still mean you doubt them so much that you'd want someone to be investigated instead of killed on the spot. So that must mean you're more then 90% confident that Drazerk and such are mafia? Since you asked for them to be shot? Please stop the ridiculousness already. You are active and smart enough to be properly interrogated, you're going to provide cases and you will show your true colors. Shitty people will probably just respond with oneliners and useless stuff, so they're better dealt with by vigilantes. You know this. And yet on day one you wanted to outright lynch me and to deny me the chance to "show my true colors" while coag gets a pass because he would "show his true colors" as the game went on.
yes, and if I had managed to convince enough people to lynch you, we'd have had great discussion about it on day 1, but you were never in enough danger for that to emerge. Are you being intentionally thick chaoser? I didn't want to lynch you with no discussion, I wanted people to read my arguments and agree with me. Maybe that'll happen on day 2.
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On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots. I can relate to your list though I don't agree with all the reads (pending re-reading I'd say harbringer could be scum, and prplhz could be town).
I´m ticked off by this. Of course prplhz COULD be Town, but I don´t think it´s very likely after some of his actions around the sinani lynch and earlier. Is there something specific in his play that makes you want to defend him, have you found a solid breadcrumb among his posts, do you have a strong hunch about him, or is it something else?
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On November 19 2011 00:43 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:34 chaoser wrote:On November 19 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote:On November 19 2011 00:25 chaoser wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 Palmar wrote:
Cause I'm only 90% confident in my reads, like, I know I'm on something like a 8-9 game streak of pushing mafia as day 1 lynch when I'm town, but that doesn't give me the right to be cocky or arrogant about it. Now go read the rest of the game, you're getting boring. wow...I didn't realize being 90% confident in your reads would still mean you doubt them so much that you'd want someone to be investigated instead of killed on the spot. So that must mean you're more then 90% confident that Drazerk and such are mafia? Since you asked for them to be shot? Please stop the ridiculousness already. You are active and smart enough to be properly interrogated, you're going to provide cases and you will show your true colors. Shitty people will probably just respond with oneliners and useless stuff, so they're better dealt with by vigilantes. You know this. And yet on day one you wanted to outright lynch me and to deny me the chance to "show my true colors" while coag gets a pass because he would "show his true colors" as the game went on. yes, and if I had managed to convince enough people to lynch you, we'd have had great discussion about it on day 1, but you were never in enough danger for that to emerge. Are you being intentionally thick chaoser? I didn't want to lynch you with no discussion, I wanted people to read my arguments and agree with me. Maybe that'll happen on day 2.
So you're saying your wanting to outright lynch me is needed to create "great discussion" and thus it was a ploy to make me "show my true colors". Then what was with saying coag would "show his true colors" and giving him a pass? Shouldn't you have also wanted to outright lynch him and then that would in turn create "great discussion" and make him show his "true colors"?
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On November 19 2011 00:33 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote:
Well Palmar, here's my thoughts.
I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on.
People I think are town :
wherebugsgo
palmar
risk.nuke
harbingerofdoom
lanaia
forumite
People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of :
prphlz
chaoser
drazerk
lemonwalrus
That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though.
Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1.
well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots. I can relate to your list though I don't agree with all the reads (pending re-reading I'd say harbringer could be scum, and prplhz could be town). The reason HoD is on my town list is because he voted drazerk before most people. I'm reasonably confident that drazerk is scum, which would make HoD almost confirmed townie to me. And yeah the prphlz thing is really just a feeling at the moment, I don't have anything solid on him.
Thats a terrible reason for confirming someone as town. Now please give me arguments for your list.
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On November 19 2011 00:46 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 00:43 Palmar wrote:On November 19 2011 00:34 chaoser wrote:On November 19 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote:On November 19 2011 00:25 chaoser wrote:On November 19 2011 00:23 Palmar wrote:
Cause I'm only 90% confident in my reads, like, I know I'm on something like a 8-9 game streak of pushing mafia as day 1 lynch when I'm town, but that doesn't give me the right to be cocky or arrogant about it. Now go read the rest of the game, you're getting boring. wow...I didn't realize being 90% confident in your reads would still mean you doubt them so much that you'd want someone to be investigated instead of killed on the spot. So that must mean you're more then 90% confident that Drazerk and such are mafia? Since you asked for them to be shot? Please stop the ridiculousness already. You are active and smart enough to be properly interrogated, you're going to provide cases and you will show your true colors. Shitty people will probably just respond with oneliners and useless stuff, so they're better dealt with by vigilantes. You know this. And yet on day one you wanted to outright lynch me and to deny me the chance to "show my true colors" while coag gets a pass because he would "show his true colors" as the game went on. yes, and if I had managed to convince enough people to lynch you, we'd have had great discussion about it on day 1, but you were never in enough danger for that to emerge. Are you being intentionally thick chaoser? I didn't want to lynch you with no discussion, I wanted people to read my arguments and agree with me. Maybe that'll happen on day 2. So you're saying your wanting to outright lynch me is needed to create "great discussion" and thus it was a ploy to make me "show my true colors". Then what was with saying coag would "show his true colors" and giving him a pass? Shouldn't you have also wanted to outright lynch him and then that would in turn create "great discussion" and make him show his "true colors"?
Whatever, I'm going to ignore you for now.
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I'm pretty sure ignoring me and wanting to create great discussion with me to show my true colors are mutually exclusive acts though
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Palmar & Chaoser, what do you think of xsksc.
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On November 15 2011 15:10 bumatlarge wrote:
/confirm
I'm mostly interested in the multi-lynch. It's possible to blanket votes over multiple scummy players, so if instead of busting LSBs balls on posting piles of garbage, I'll echo the analysis statement. There is no wrong way to do it, just post who and why. And going out of your way to point out someone is acting townie does not help any discussion. I'll vote anyone who has a good argument against them.
And since I only know a quarter of the player-base, I'll forgive Hiroruby for his fairly obvious insights, because it's effort and if he can forge that into scumhunting, it makes the town that much stronger.
And also I see no reason not to do this.
##Vote Kenpachi
And I will most likely not be taking it off until I see something that benefits town come out of his mouth. I don't really care about spam, I'll read all of it anyway so I won't discourage it. It will just help my reads so thats all I'm concerned about.
This post started the the voting for Kenpachi. The following people voted yes on both lynches. DCLXVU, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Riske.nuke, Tyrran, Lemon Walrus, and Cyber_Cheese.
Drazerk FoS'd Sinani first, and Chaoser started the voting for him.
If Bumatlarge was mafia out of the people that put 2 yes votes on the two who are dead the following DID NOT vote for Bumatlarge, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Tyrran, Cyber_Cheese.
If I'm hit tonight there is a good chance there are at 3 or more Mafia out of those 6 people, but if Bumatlarge is not mafia I need to go and re-analyze the data.
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and xsksc what do you think of palmar and chaoser.
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