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On November 25 2011 03:30 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 03:24 hyshes wrote:On November 25 2011 02:58 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 01:51 hyshes wrote:
@forumite: care to explain your reasoning behind your statement about the votes on nisani? I can't really follow your logic in that. Which part of it? @Tyrran The point of listing only confirmed Town is because it hasn´t got to do with Scum voting Nisani, it has to do with Scum leaving alive those Townies who want to vote Nisani. I don´t throw suspicion on the players voting Nisani, but I think they survived the night because Scum would rather kill people like risk and Harbringer who couldn´t care either way about Nisani. It´s like the opposite of when Scum kill those suspecting them, now they killed those not caring about Nisani, thereby making it more likely that Nisani was lynched. I agree with those saying that we should lynch another player. My suggestion would be Zephirdd. just the whole thing. What are you stating actually? Scum wanted today to be spent lynching Nisani, so they killed a few players who didn´t care about lynching Nisani. After 2 failed attempts to kill Nisani to frustrate Town, and now with less people who think he is town/don´t care either way, the Nisani lynch was made much easier. Scum are manipulating the lynches, that shouldn´t be a surprise. When looking at it like that, it´s possible that Drazerk was killed by a Vigilante, in order to confirm hyshes.
You need to stop ignoring the fact that scum have targeted people voting for Nisani BOTH NIGTH ( Palmar N1, and Drazerk N2) Your logic doesnt make sense to me.
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On November 24 2011 12:50 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 11:22 bumatlarge wrote:On November 23 2011 17:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I think the most important thing you have to ask yourself now in deciding if you think this strategy is good is why do these 5 seem to have no problem voting so much on lynch candidates? In a majority lynch setting its obvious, you vote because you want them to die, and unless they seriously think each one of those 3 were really scum why else would they vote? Seems silly, the obvious answer is that they want them to die because the more dead townies there are the better it helps their win condition.
In a majority lynch game they HAVE to reach the number of votes to get a kill, meaning in this set up a vote list is even more powerful of an analytical tool then anything else we have. I have used votelists to catch scum in the past before and it is a very very good indicator. If you look at Arkham Asylum mafia Lucidity played a really really tight game from posting, I couldn't 100% put him as scum. He flew under really well. But as someone who made semi good intelligent posts he ALWAYS ended up on the wrong side of every lynch. When he was the only person to fuck up so bad the answer was simple, he was scum trying to save his own. I don't really buy that this is how you plan on winning the game. I can understand it as a place to start in a multi-lynch format, but there needs to be a step two to this. That said, I can't really say why it isn't a good plan. ##Vote: Lanaia
##Vote: GreYMisT
##Vote: Forumite
##Vote: Nisani201
##Vote: ZephirddIt might be a misread but I REALLY don't see cyber_cheese being scum. I've been reading his day 1 posts, and no one gave me such a town vibe as he did. I think the step two I mentioned is actually analyzing the players here. Here's my problem with it. There are 5 living scum. You have 7 votes down. RoL has convinced you to place votes on townies. There are hazards in store for a town that uses degenerate strategies, and we don't know what they are. Therefore, it would be scum agenda to push a plan that essentially degenerates the game away from analysis of individuals.
Bum is actually correct. Step two would involve analyzing each player on that list and deciding which ones I think deserve the hammer more so than the others. The easier approach is just to kill them all and be done with it. That being said, I really would prefer not to lynch Cyber_cheese, DCI, or Lanaia and we focus on the other 4. Among which, Nisani is already lynched which leaves with with Forumite, Greymist, and Zephirdd. I don't think 4 lynches will get us punished by the host or in game mechanics.
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It's possible nisani201 isn't scum.
I actually don't care, I want him dead either way, for terrible.
I will read sabin010 later, I'm off to enjoy an evening of turkey and football.
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On November 25 2011 03:44 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 03:30 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 03:24 hyshes wrote:On November 25 2011 02:58 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 01:51 hyshes wrote:
@forumite: care to explain your reasoning behind your statement about the votes on nisani? I can't really follow your logic in that. Which part of it? @Tyrran The point of listing only confirmed Town is because it hasn´t got to do with Scum voting Nisani, it has to do with Scum leaving alive those Townies who want to vote Nisani. I don´t throw suspicion on the players voting Nisani, but I think they survived the night because Scum would rather kill people like risk and Harbringer who couldn´t care either way about Nisani. It´s like the opposite of when Scum kill those suspecting them, now they killed those not caring about Nisani, thereby making it more likely that Nisani was lynched. I agree with those saying that we should lynch another player. My suggestion would be Zephirdd. just the whole thing. What are you stating actually? Scum wanted today to be spent lynching Nisani, so they killed a few players who didn´t care about lynching Nisani. After 2 failed attempts to kill Nisani to frustrate Town, and now with less people who think he is town/don´t care either way, the Nisani lynch was made much easier. Scum are manipulating the lynches, that shouldn´t be a surprise. When looking at it like that, it´s possible that Drazerk was killed by a Vigilante, in order to confirm hyshes. You need to stop ignoring the fact that scum have targeted people voting for Nisani BOTH NIGTH ( Palmar N1, and Drazerk N2) Your logic doesnt make sense to me.
N1 nightactions doesn´t matter, they probably didn´t set this up two days in advance, it was probably decided the same night when Nisani was still alive and still getting votes. Drazerk is odd, but it IS possible that a Town vigi killed him to confirm hyshes.
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On November 25 2011 03:47 Palmar wrote:
It's possible nisani201 isn't scum.
I actually don't care, I want him dead either way, for terrible.
I will read sabin010 later, I'm off to enjoy an evening of turkey and football.
bahahahaha
kill this guy
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tbh I was kind of hoping to get lynched. I think this will speed up Palmar's death, and I can spend more time on XLVII.
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You're a townie who wanted to get lynched, so someone you've been arguing with gets lynched and you can spend more time in another game? Surely that's going against your win condition...
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I wouldn't have said that if XLVII didn't just start. I didn't know it was starting so soon until I got my role PM (which I read before I found out that I got lynched in this game).
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On November 25 2011 01:30 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 23:57 Lanaia wrote:On November 24 2011 23:53 xsksc wrote:
I'm also prettty suspicious of Lanaia. She says she never claimed blue, but when she blatantly anti-voted day 1 and her name appeared next to it, it's the same outcome. I'm really surprised she hasn't died yet.
I never OUTRIGHT claimed it. That was what I meant. I re-read your post about the claim and I must have misunderstood it earlier. My bad, sorry. I'm still curious that you're alive, have you been notified of any hits?
I have not been notified of any hits.
On November 25 2011 01:39 Forumite wrote:
If we assume the role works like Lanaia says (adds a negative vote, but can´t do anything once someone is hammered), the anti-voter role is usefull in the hands of a good Town player, weak in the hands of a weak Town player, and very powerfull in the hands of Scum. I don´t know if Lanaia is alive because she´s Scum or because they don´t fear her role, but I don´t think it´s surprising to see her alive still.
Lanaia, does your role do anything else except give you the option to negate another players vote on a target? Do you have any other powers?
I do have other powers. Right now, unless I need to, I'd prefer not to disclose them. The
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Screw you computer.
*They probably haven't killed me because I'm a goddamn idiot.
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Nisani could be town, but then again even after being hammered he doesn't give a shit about the town wincon.
I need to read the last few pages. I suggest you all look closely at Zentor, bumatlarge, Zephirrd.
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I do care about the wincon. I would rather get myself lynched then have a nolynch. Once people see that I'm town, it will make the case against WBGT and Palmar significantly stronger. Which is good.
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On November 24 2011 01:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 01:17 Nisani201 wrote:
If I get lynched, and flip town, will you guys kill Palmar/WBG for me? If you are town I will seriously consider not playing with you again. You're not allowed to be an asshole until you stop being wrong.
On November 25 2011 03:47 Palmar wrote:
It's possible nisani201 isn't scum.
I actually don't care, I want him dead either way, for terrible.
I will read sabin010 later, I'm off to enjoy an evening of turkey and football.
If this guy is not dead by tomorrow night then you guys are fucked
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No, you don't.
Now, I would like you to write a big post on the current situation of the game.
Additionally, I would like you to either retract or confirm chaoser's claim that you are vanilla town.
I think we need to kill a mafia badly and I am mostly if not entirely partially vanilla town. 
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On November 25 2011 05:14 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +No, you don't.
Now, I would like you to write a big post on the current situation of the game.
Additionally, I would like you to either retract or confirm chaoser's claim that you are vanilla town. I think we need to kill a mafia badly and I am mostly if not entirely partially vanilla town.
wtf?
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On November 25 2011 05:14 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +No, you don't.
Now, I would like you to write a big post on the current situation of the game.
Additionally, I would like you to either retract or confirm chaoser's claim that you are vanilla town. I think we need to kill a mafia badly and I am mostly if not entirely partially vanilla town.
You do know you cannot state such things without explanation..
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On November 25 2011 04:07 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 03:47 Palmar wrote:
It's possible nisani201 isn't scum.
I actually don't care, I want him dead either way, for terrible.
I will read sabin010 later, I'm off to enjoy an evening of turkey and football. bahahahaha kill this guy
Seriously, fuck off you moron.
Go die, I hate you. If you're town you don't even fucking try. What a useless sack of shit.
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Palmar rage so cute ♥
##vote MrZentor
Sticking with my gut here, his posts have been sporadic and sucky since he subbed in. I thought chaoser was sure scum, I'm not going to drop that read anymore. Let's kill this guy, since he has no intention of furthering town agenda.
I will also support a Zephirdd lynch today.
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##Vote Coagulation
##Vote MrZentor
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