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On November 25 2011 08:00 Tyrran wrote:
##Vote: Cyber_cheeze
##Vote: Forumite
Cyber_cheeze: You visiting me still makes more sense as scum than as blue.
Forumite : Your reasoning for saving Nisani makes no sense. I feel like you're a scum trying to look good. Also, see WBG post
Plus you both voted for palmar who is clearly the best town around here. How more scummy can you be ?
Why doesn´t it make sense? If Nisani was Scum, wouldn´t Scum have killed Palmar or WBG, or someone else actually out to lynch palmar, in order to get some pressure off of him? Shooting those NOT pushing Nisani means that Nisani dies, it´s simple and direct, and if Nisani is Town then it´s also Pro-Scum to do this, because 5/6 of the day was spent dealing with Nisani. We always lynch our first 12 hours before deadline, then rush secondary lynches, so one obvious target for the day means Town basically waste the day.
Why vote now, and not a few hours ago when I posted the analysis?
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scum never kill me cause people always suspect me regardless of alignment lol.
I was actually surprised I got shot n1 in LoTR, and in SMG when I had a correct scumread it was the serial killer who shot me and not scum.
You can't WIFOM yourself into trying to figure out scum reads, only scum know what scum want. So, the fact that you're trying to reason this out based on what scum to do is very suspicious.
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On November 25 2011 08:12 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:00 Tyrran wrote:
##Vote: Cyber_cheeze
##Vote: Forumite
Cyber_cheeze: You visiting me still makes more sense as scum than as blue.
Forumite : Your reasoning for saving Nisani makes no sense. I feel like you're a scum trying to look good. Also, see WBG post
Plus you both voted for palmar who is clearly the best town around here. How more scummy can you be ? Why doesn´t it make sense? If Nisani was Scum, wouldn´t Scum have killed Palmar or WBG, or someone else actually out to lynch palmar, in order to get some pressure off of him? Shooting those NOT pushing Nisani means that Nisani dies, it´s simple and direct, and if Nisani is Town then it´s also Pro-Scum to do this, because 5/6 of the day was spent dealing with Nisani. We always lynch our first 12 hours before deadline, then rush secondary lynches, so one obvious target for the day means Town basically waste the day. Why vote now, and not a few hours ago when I posted the analysis?
Because you just voted for palmar.
And as i said before, Scum DID SHOOT FOR THOSE pushing Nisani. EVERY NIGTH some one voting for Nisani got hit. How can you say they did not target those pushing for him. Shooting palmar N2 would be bad as he was obv going to be protected again, so they went for drazerk who voted twice for him.
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##Vote MrZentor
Can you be a bit more clear about this? Not going to unvote unless you give a much better explanation.
On November 25 2011 05:14 MrZentor wrote:I think we need to kill a mafia badly and I am mostly if not entirely partially vanilla town. 
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On November 25 2011 08:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
scum never kill me cause people always suspect me regardless of alignment lol.
I was actually surprised I got shot n1 in LoTR, and in SMG when I had a correct scumread it was the serial killer who shot me and not scum.
You can't WIFOM yourself into trying to figure out scum reads, only scum know what scum want. So, the fact that you're trying to reason this out based on what scum to do is very suspicious.
I´m always wary of WIFOM, but I think this is one of the few times where the situation was simple enough to read. We´ll know about Nisani in a few hours, but if Nisani is scum, then scum don´t mind him dying.
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On November 25 2011 08:23 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
scum never kill me cause people always suspect me regardless of alignment lol.
I was actually surprised I got shot n1 in LoTR, and in SMG when I had a correct scumread it was the serial killer who shot me and not scum.
You can't WIFOM yourself into trying to figure out scum reads, only scum know what scum want. So, the fact that you're trying to reason this out based on what scum to do is very suspicious. I´m always wary of WIFOM, but I think this is one of the few times where the situation was simple enough to read. We´ll know about Nisani in a few hours, but if Nisani is scum, then scum don´t mind him dying.
first part: no, you can never figure out scum motivations like that unless you are scum yourself.
second part: why thank you, captain obvious.
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In a few hours? Isn't there another day and a half until the deadline?
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On November 25 2011 08:22 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:12 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 08:00 Tyrran wrote:
##Vote: Cyber_cheeze
##Vote: Forumite
Cyber_cheeze: You visiting me still makes more sense as scum than as blue.
Forumite : Your reasoning for saving Nisani makes no sense. I feel like you're a scum trying to look good. Also, see WBG post
Plus you both voted for palmar who is clearly the best town around here. How more scummy can you be ? Why doesn´t it make sense? If Nisani was Scum, wouldn´t Scum have killed Palmar or WBG, or someone else actually out to lynch palmar, in order to get some pressure off of him? Shooting those NOT pushing Nisani means that Nisani dies, it´s simple and direct, and if Nisani is Town then it´s also Pro-Scum to do this, because 5/6 of the day was spent dealing with Nisani. We always lynch our first 12 hours before deadline, then rush secondary lynches, so one obvious target for the day means Town basically waste the day. Why vote now, and not a few hours ago when I posted the analysis? Because you just voted for palmar. And as i said before, Scum DID SHOOT FOR THOSE pushing Nisani. EVERY NIGTH some one voting for Nisani got hit. How can you say they did not target those pushing for him. Shooting palmar N2 would be bad as he was obv going to be protected again, so they went for drazerk who voted twice for him.
Yeah, I figured it was me voting for Palmar that triggered it. You really don´t like anyone doubting him.
I´m leaning towards Drazerk being a vigihit, that would make sense with 3 nightkills rather than the 2 of N1. Even if Drazerk was a mafia hit, killing risk and Harbringer did nothing at all for Nisani, none of them voted, cared or even mentioned Nisani. There must have been better targets, targets that were on Nisani without being likely medic protects.
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On November 25 2011 08:28 xsksc wrote:
In a few hours? Isn't there another day and a half until the deadline?
Really? Do we have another day?
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On November 25 2011 08:29 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:22 Tyrran wrote:On November 25 2011 08:12 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 08:00 Tyrran wrote:
##Vote: Cyber_cheeze
##Vote: Forumite
Cyber_cheeze: You visiting me still makes more sense as scum than as blue.
Forumite : Your reasoning for saving Nisani makes no sense. I feel like you're a scum trying to look good. Also, see WBG post
Plus you both voted for palmar who is clearly the best town around here. How more scummy can you be ? Why doesn´t it make sense? If Nisani was Scum, wouldn´t Scum have killed Palmar or WBG, or someone else actually out to lynch palmar, in order to get some pressure off of him? Shooting those NOT pushing Nisani means that Nisani dies, it´s simple and direct, and if Nisani is Town then it´s also Pro-Scum to do this, because 5/6 of the day was spent dealing with Nisani. We always lynch our first 12 hours before deadline, then rush secondary lynches, so one obvious target for the day means Town basically waste the day. Why vote now, and not a few hours ago when I posted the analysis? Because you just voted for palmar. And as i said before, Scum DID SHOOT FOR THOSE pushing Nisani. EVERY NIGTH some one voting for Nisani got hit. How can you say they did not target those pushing for him. Shooting palmar N2 would be bad as he was obv going to be protected again, so they went for drazerk who voted twice for him. Yeah, I figured it was me voting for Palmar that triggered it. You really don´t like anyone doubting him. I´m leaning towards Drazerk being a vigihit, that would make sense with 3 nightkills rather than the 2 of N1. Even if Drazerk was a mafia hit, killing risk and Harbringer did nothing at all for Nisani, none of them voted, cared or even mentioned Nisani. There must have been better targets, targets that were on Nisani without being likely medic protects.
dude, where are you pulling this shit from?
How can you assume Drazerk was a vig hit? Why are you making unnecessary assumptions about the game and trying to use inconclusive evidence to conclude things that are very far from being concrete?
You're being incredibly dumb if you're a townie and you're shedding plenty of doubt if you're scum.
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The day ends at Saturday, Nov 26 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
For those with any doubts. Using [date] tags for clarification. That'd be Nov-26 11:00KST.
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On November 23 2011 11:24 Zona wrote:
It is now Day 3! With 19 alive, 10 is required to lynch. The day will end at November 26 11:00 KST
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Why would any vigi hit Drazerk when after he claimed Mason. That doesnt remotely makes sense. Mafia killing two almost confirmed town ( drazerk and risk.nuke) makes a lot of sense on the other hand. Why assume the opposite ?
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On November 25 2011 08:32 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:29 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 08:22 Tyrran wrote:On November 25 2011 08:12 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 08:00 Tyrran wrote:
##Vote: Cyber_cheeze
##Vote: Forumite
Cyber_cheeze: You visiting me still makes more sense as scum than as blue.
Forumite : Your reasoning for saving Nisani makes no sense. I feel like you're a scum trying to look good. Also, see WBG post
Plus you both voted for palmar who is clearly the best town around here. How more scummy can you be ? Why doesn´t it make sense? If Nisani was Scum, wouldn´t Scum have killed Palmar or WBG, or someone else actually out to lynch palmar, in order to get some pressure off of him? Shooting those NOT pushing Nisani means that Nisani dies, it´s simple and direct, and if Nisani is Town then it´s also Pro-Scum to do this, because 5/6 of the day was spent dealing with Nisani. We always lynch our first 12 hours before deadline, then rush secondary lynches, so one obvious target for the day means Town basically waste the day. Why vote now, and not a few hours ago when I posted the analysis? Because you just voted for palmar. And as i said before, Scum DID SHOOT FOR THOSE pushing Nisani. EVERY NIGTH some one voting for Nisani got hit. How can you say they did not target those pushing for him. Shooting palmar N2 would be bad as he was obv going to be protected again, so they went for drazerk who voted twice for him. Yeah, I figured it was me voting for Palmar that triggered it. You really don´t like anyone doubting him. I´m leaning towards Drazerk being a vigihit, that would make sense with 3 nightkills rather than the 2 of N1. Even if Drazerk was a mafia hit, killing risk and Harbringer did nothing at all for Nisani, none of them voted, cared or even mentioned Nisani. There must have been better targets, targets that were on Nisani without being likely medic protects. dude, where are you pulling this shit from? How can you assume Drazerk was a vig hit? Why are you making unnecessary assumptions about the game and trying to use inconclusive evidence to conclude things that are very far from being concrete? You're being incredibly dumb if you're a townie and you're shedding plenty of doubt if you're scum.
People bring up what I said about Nisani, just explaining how I thought.
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On November 25 2011 08:37 Tyrran wrote:
Why would any vigi hit Drazerk when after he claimed Mason. That doesnt remotely makes sense. Mafia killing two almost confirmed town ( drazerk and risk.nuke) makes a lot of sense on the other hand. Why assume the opposite ?
There is always the chance that there were no Masons in the game and Drazerk/hyshes were actually mafia fakeclaiming Masons. Risky as hell, but would have paid off.
Drazerk dieing 100% confirms hyshes as a blue(or green?).
Just pointing it out...
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On November 25 2011 08:37 Tyrran wrote:
Why would any vigi hit Drazerk when after he claimed Mason. That doesnt remotely makes sense. Mafia killing two almost confirmed town ( drazerk and risk.nuke) makes a lot of sense on the other hand. Why assume the opposite ?
From Towns perspective, neither was confirmed, but once drazerk died hyshes was confirmed. risk was generally considered Town, but that doesn´t make him confirmed. The thing that is odd is why scum didn´t shoot both masons if they were going for one, killing one mason confirms the other, but killing both makes sure there are no confirmed Townies. Scum hate confirmed Townies.
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##unvote bumatlarge
##vote Forumite
On November 25 2011 08:39 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:37 Tyrran wrote:
Why would any vigi hit Drazerk when after he claimed Mason. That doesnt remotely makes sense. Mafia killing two almost confirmed town ( drazerk and risk.nuke) makes a lot of sense on the other hand. Why assume the opposite ? There is always the chance that there were no Masons in the game and Drazerk/hyshes were actually mafia fakeclaiming Masons. Risky as hell, but would have paid off. Drazerk dieing 100% confirms hyshes as a blue(or green?). Just pointing it out...
nice soft-defend mate
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On November 25 2011 08:42 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:37 Tyrran wrote:
Why would any vigi hit Drazerk when after he claimed Mason. That doesnt remotely makes sense. Mafia killing two almost confirmed town ( drazerk and risk.nuke) makes a lot of sense on the other hand. Why assume the opposite ? From Towns perspective, neither was confirmed, but once drazerk died hyshes was confirmed. risk was generally considered Town, but that doesn´t make him confirmed. The thing that is odd is why scum didn´t shoot both masons if they were going for one, killing one mason confirms the other, but killing both makes sure there are no confirmed Townies. Scum hate confirmed Townies.
Expecting scum making the obvious kills is retarded. Maybe scum wants us to have this discussion to distract us from more scumhunting. You might be scum who wants to have this stupid discussion?
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On November 25 2011 08:56 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:42 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 08:37 Tyrran wrote:
Why would any vigi hit Drazerk when after he claimed Mason. That doesnt remotely makes sense. Mafia killing two almost confirmed town ( drazerk and risk.nuke) makes a lot of sense on the other hand. Why assume the opposite ? From Towns perspective, neither was confirmed, but once drazerk died hyshes was confirmed. risk was generally considered Town, but that doesn´t make him confirmed. The thing that is odd is why scum didn´t shoot both masons if they were going for one, killing one mason confirms the other, but killing both makes sure there are no confirmed Townies. Scum hate confirmed Townies. Expecting scum making the obvious kills is retarded. Maybe scum wants us to have this discussion to distract us from more scumhunting. You might be scum who wants to have this stupid discussion?
No, it´s not retarded to discuss nightkills. Scum look at the game and decide who to kill depending on how their death change Town, and the likelyhood that the kill will go through. Scum don´t use esoteric techniques and secrets to decide on their kills, they decide based on who they want dead, whose death will make it hard for Town to work, and whose death will confuse Town. Just because we don´t know the exact reasoning doesn´t mean we shouldn´t discuss it at all.
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Yes, but you keep talking about the scum kills as if you know exactly how they happened.
If you were interested in a fully transparent and encompassing discussion about the scum kills you would realize that any conclusion is logically viable. Since there are only two conclusions, both with opposite motivations, it's WIFOM.
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