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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
November 24 2011 15:54 GMT
#1981
Hey guys! I am just posting to tell you that over the next few days I will be on vacation, so it will be difficult to post a lot, but I will do my best.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 24 2011 16:15 GMT
#1982
10 votes to lynch, and Nisani has 8, which is dangerously close to being voted and hammered. Right now I´m carefull to get on the bandwagon. The reason is that while Nisani has been voted heavily every day, very few confirmed Town have been on him. Of the 3 Town that died N2, only Drazerk has ever voted on Nisani. On the other hand, risk.nuke and Harbringer barely mentioned Nisani in their filters. I would expect there to be a more even distribution of Townies on his case. Since it isn´t that suggests that Scum spent two of the N2 nightkills on players that didn´t have a strong opinion of Nisani201, leaving those who would likely be frustrated after failing to lynch twice, and thereby making it easier to lynch him D3. Either this is an elaborate buss, or Nisani is most likely Town.

I think Nisani201 is Town.

Day 1:
Nisani201 (6): bumatlarge, wherebugsgo, Palmar, Drazerk, GreYMisT, sinani206

Day 2:
Nisani201 (9): Drazerk, wherebugsgo, Lanaia, Lemonwalrus, xsksc, Cyber_Cheese, DCLXVI, Cyber_Cheese, GreYMisT, Lanaia, bumatlarge

Day 3: (current votes)
Nisani201 (8): wherebugsgo, RebirthOfLeGenD, Cyber_Cheese, Palmar, MrZentor, Tyrran, DCLXVI, Coagulation, bumatlarge

Number of times a player has voted on Nisani201
bumatlarge (3)
wherebugsgo (3)
Palmar (2)
Drazerk (2)
GreYMisT (2)
DCLXVI (2)
Lemonwalrus (1)
xsksc (1)
RebirthOfLeGenD (1)
MrZentor (1)
Tyrran (1)
Coagulation (1)
sinani206 (1)
Cyber_Cheese (2-1=1)
Lanaia (1-0=1)
:3
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
November 24 2011 16:20 GMT
#1983
Doesn't nisani have 10 votes now forumite?
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 24 2011 16:21 GMT
#1984
And no, voting for Nisani201 doesn´t make you scum, but if Scum wanted Town to lynch Nisani201 on their own, then those who voted several times, like WBG, would be poor targets for a Nightkill.

Including D3 votes when considering N2 kills might not make much sense, so below is the list for only D1 and D2.

Day 1:
Nisani201 (6): bumatlarge, wherebugsgo, Palmar, Drazerk, GreYMisT, sinani206

Day 2:
Nisani201 (9): Drazerk, wherebugsgo, Lanaia, Lemonwalrus, xsksc, Cyber_Cheese, DCLXVI, Cyber_Cheese, GreYMisT, Lanaia, bumatlarge

Number of times a player has voted on Nisani201
bumatlarge (2)
wherebugsgo (2)
Palmar (1)
Drazerk (2)
GreYMisT (2)
DCLXVI (1)
Lemonwalrus (1)
xsksc (1)
sinani206 (1)
Cyber_Cheese (2-1=1)
Lanaia (2-1=1)
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 24 2011 16:25 GMT
#1985
On November 25 2011 01:20 xsksc wrote:
Doesn't nisani have 10 votes now forumite?

You are right, I appear to have done a prplhz. I saw the votes in the thread, but forgot to update the zbot summary, and so didn´t know he had allready been lynched.
:3
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
November 24 2011 16:30 GMT
#1986
On November 24 2011 23:57 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 23:53 xsksc wrote:
I'm also prettty suspicious of Lanaia. She says she never claimed blue, but when she blatantly anti-voted day 1 and her name appeared next to it, it's the same outcome. I'm really surprised she hasn't died yet.



I never OUTRIGHT claimed it. That was what I meant.


I re-read your post about the claim and I must have misunderstood it earlier. My bad, sorry.
I'm still curious that you're alive, have you been notified of any hits?
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 24 2011 16:39 GMT
#1987
If we assume the role works like Lanaia says (adds a negative vote, but can´t do anything once someone is hammered), the anti-voter role is usefull in the hands of a good Town player, weak in the hands of a weak Town player, and very powerfull in the hands of Scum. I don´t know if Lanaia is alive because she´s Scum or because they don´t fear her role, but I don´t think it´s surprising to see her alive still.

Lanaia, does your role do anything else except give you the option to negate another players vote on a target? Do you have any other powers?
:3
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
November 24 2011 16:50 GMT
#1988
@Forumite: You only consider the confirmed town. Let me redo your analysis with those I believe are very likely to be town:

On November 25 2011 01:15 Forumite wrote:

Number of times a player has voted on Nisani201
bumatlarge (3)
wherebugsgo (3) --> I have a town read on him, but i'm less convinced than for others.
Palmar (2)
Drazerk (2)
GreYMisT (2)
DCLXVI (2)
Lemonwalrus (1)
xsksc (1)
RebirthOfLeGenD (1)
MrZentor (1)
Tyrran (1)
Coagulation (1)
sinani206 (1)
Cyber_Cheese (2-1=1)
Lanaia (1-0=1)


Much better green distribution. Unless WBG is scum (unlikely ), most of the votes on him are from town. If he was town too, I would have expected some scum to vote for him more often.


On November 25 2011 01:21 Forumite wrote:
And no, voting for Nisani201 doesn´t make you scum, but if Scum wanted Town to lynch Nisani201 on their own, then those who voted several times, like WBG, would be poor targets for a Nightkill. I dont get your argument. If Nisani was scum, then wouldnt those who voted several time for him make very GOOD target for a nigthkill ?

Including D3 votes when considering N2 kills might not make much sense, so below is the list for only D1 and D2.

Day 1:
Nisani201 (6): bumatlarge, wherebugsgo, Palmar, Drazerk, GreYMisT, sinani206 --> Palmar was hit

Day 2:
Nisani201 (9): Drazerk, wherebugsgo, Lanaia, Lemonwalrus, xsksc, Cyber_Cheese, DCLXVI, Cyber_Cheese, GreYMisT, Lanaia, bumatlarge --> Drazerk was killed


So if anything , your analysis prove that Nisani201 was a good target for a lynch. It doesnt make me regret voting for him.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
hyshes
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium428 Posts
November 24 2011 16:51 GMT
#1989
@forumite: care to explain your reasoning behind your statement about the votes on nisani? I can't really follow your logic in that.
How does liquid slide? Liquid horns Hero after the synonym. How can Hero return beside the driver? The moving feat expenses the mortal. Will Hero pause?
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
November 24 2011 16:52 GMT
#1990
Happy Thanksgiving! Probably won't post until tomorrow morning.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#1991
On November 25 2011 01:52 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving! Probably won't post until tomorrow morning.

Unfortunatly this for me as well.

Some breif thoughts about the game state as it curently is though.

I think our main focus for the rest of the day needs to be on if we want mr zentor dead or not. ever since he took over for chaoser I know I have been having a hard time deciding where to go. But recently I have noticed that a number of questions have been asked of him (chaoser's town claim, his thoughts) And he has either ignored them, or givin very vauge answers. His votes have also been very brief, and have the air of someone that wants to lay low. In addition to the case on chaoser, this is enough for me to vote for him

##Vote: MrZentor

again, ill try to keep up with the thread the best that i can today.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 24 2011 17:05 GMT
#1992
I would like to ask everyone to please hold their votes on nisani201, let's not hammer him right now.

Forumite, that's some of the worst logic I have ever seen.
Computer says mafia
hyshes
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium428 Posts
November 24 2011 17:08 GMT
#1993
Why do people keep stating "don't hammer x" after he is hammered?

forumite i understand, zbot just recently updated the votes.. but palmar you voted for him and posted way behind the zbot update..
How does liquid slide? Liquid horns Hero after the synonym. How can Hero return beside the driver? The moving feat expenses the mortal. Will Hero pause?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 24 2011 17:14 GMT
#1994
oh, I just read Forumite's post saying he has 8.

My bad. He's dead then. Nothing of value has been lost.
Computer says mafia
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
November 24 2011 17:18 GMT
#1995
SO with Nisani201 dead, are we allowed to push for another lynch now ? I would recommend Sabin010 :

On November 23 2011 01:32 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 00:05 Sabin010 wrote:
Tyrran I only voted prp because he voted Risk.nuke who had been playing a great game for us all game.


You just gave the worst possible excuse. Prplhz made a case against risk.nuke, who succefully defended himself and nothing happened. THAT WAS GOOD. That's how mafia is supposed to be played. Player put pressure on each other to make them slip. You played IRL mafia, how do you not know this ? You voted against prp because he played good. You dont lynch people because they made a case against someone else. you suspect them because of this, you build a case against them and if they fail to defend themself you lynch them.

Quite frankly, this look like a scum, wondering "Can I safely bandwagon? Oh yeah he voted for a town so i'm safe".

Oh and going trough your filter i find this :

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 17:52 Sabin010 wrote:
Rebirthoflegend dude I hope you're not mafia because I had a list of six guys who were potential mafia, and I'm really drunk rigght now, but if I was right we got at least 3 of these guys (Bumatlarge, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Tyrran, Cyber_Cheese) as mafia. I made a post earlier expaining how I came to the conclusion, but after seeing a new person and being drunk on a friday night lets lynch them.


Lynching 6 people on day 2 ? Really ? You are obviously using the fact that Ken and Sinani played bad in order to lynch as much town as possible.( I take good not that 4 out of 6 are likely town, and 2 of them are blue. Thank god nobody listen to you). This has to be the most mafia oriented play yet. Yes you had to be drunk to post something like this. How did we not lynch you? Oh rigth, because you are lurking and not getting any attention. Typical mafia play again.

Also, I'm not forgetting that this
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 01:59 Sabin010 wrote:
I agree about lynching liars, but if we're lynching lurkers because they're not active just doesn't seem to be a good way to go about this. If some one proposes we lynch a lurker, I'm not voting.
makes a lot of sense if you are mafia and you intent to lurk a lot.

And last but not least :
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 00:05 Sabin010 wrote:
Lets use our roles wisely tonight. We still have a chance at breaking this game wide open.
Tyrran I only voted prp because he voted Risk.nuke who had been playing a great game for us all game.
Saying obvious stuff without contributing a bit. Mafia play again.

You have so many scummy play in so little post, I will definitely try to get you lynched on day 3. And if i dont survive nigth 2, I hope someone else will remind town to lynch you.


What do you guys think ? He also promised a analysis that never came.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 24 2011 17:58 GMT
#1996
On November 25 2011 01:51 hyshes wrote:
@forumite: care to explain your reasoning behind your statement about the votes on nisani? I can't really follow your logic in that.

Which part of it?

@Tyrran
The point of listing only confirmed Town is because it hasn´t got to do with Scum voting Nisani, it has to do with Scum leaving alive those Townies who want to vote Nisani. I don´t throw suspicion on the players voting Nisani, but I think they survived the night because Scum would rather kill people like risk and Harbringer who couldn´t care either way about Nisani. It´s like the opposite of when Scum kill those suspecting them, now they killed those not caring about Nisani, thereby making it more likely that Nisani was lynched.

I agree with those saying that we should lynch another player. My suggestion would be Zephirdd.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 24 2011 18:00 GMT
#1997
On November 25 2011 02:03 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:52 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving! Probably won't post until tomorrow morning.

Unfortunatly this for me as well.

Some breif thoughts about the game state as it curently is though.

I think our main focus for the rest of the day needs to be on if we want mr zentor dead or not. ever since he took over for chaoser I know I have been having a hard time deciding where to go. But recently I have noticed that a number of questions have been asked of him (chaoser's town claim, his thoughts) And he has either ignored them, or givin very vauge answers. His votes have also been very brief, and have the air of someone that wants to lay low. In addition to the case on chaoser, this is enough for me to vote for him

##Vote: MrZentor

again, ill try to keep up with the thread the best that i can today.

I don´t like this, but only because MrZentor just went away, and will probably not be able to reply during the next 8 hours.
:3
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
November 24 2011 18:09 GMT
#1998
On November 25 2011 02:58 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:51 hyshes wrote:
@forumite: care to explain your reasoning behind your statement about the votes on nisani? I can't really follow your logic in that.

Which part of it?

@Tyrran
The point of listing only confirmed Town is because it hasn´t got to do with Scum voting Nisani, it has to do with Scum leaving alive those Townies who want to vote Nisani. I don´t throw suspicion on the players voting Nisani, but I think they survived the night because Scum would rather kill people like risk and Harbringer who couldn´t care either way about Nisani. It´s like the opposite of when Scum kill those suspecting them, now they killed those not caring about Nisani, thereby making it more likely that Nisani was lynched.

I agree with those saying that we should lynch another player. My suggestion would be Zephirdd.


It's nice that you ignored my defense/reasoning to your scum claims and now you are trying to lead town to lynch another town by blindly believing that you are right. again.

##Vote: Forumite
o.m.g.u.s.
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hyshes
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium428 Posts
November 24 2011 18:24 GMT
#1999
On November 25 2011 02:58 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:51 hyshes wrote:
@forumite: care to explain your reasoning behind your statement about the votes on nisani? I can't really follow your logic in that.

Which part of it?

@Tyrran
The point of listing only confirmed Town is because it hasn´t got to do with Scum voting Nisani, it has to do with Scum leaving alive those Townies who want to vote Nisani. I don´t throw suspicion on the players voting Nisani, but I think they survived the night because Scum would rather kill people like risk and Harbringer who couldn´t care either way about Nisani. It´s like the opposite of when Scum kill those suspecting them, now they killed those not caring about Nisani, thereby making it more likely that Nisani was lynched.

I agree with those saying that we should lynch another player. My suggestion would be Zephirdd.


just the whole thing. What are you stating actually?
How does liquid slide? Liquid horns Hero after the synonym. How can Hero return beside the driver? The moving feat expenses the mortal. Will Hero pause?
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 24 2011 18:30 GMT
#2000
On November 25 2011 03:24 hyshes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 02:58 Forumite wrote:
On November 25 2011 01:51 hyshes wrote:
@forumite: care to explain your reasoning behind your statement about the votes on nisani? I can't really follow your logic in that.

Which part of it?

@Tyrran
The point of listing only confirmed Town is because it hasn´t got to do with Scum voting Nisani, it has to do with Scum leaving alive those Townies who want to vote Nisani. I don´t throw suspicion on the players voting Nisani, but I think they survived the night because Scum would rather kill people like risk and Harbringer who couldn´t care either way about Nisani. It´s like the opposite of when Scum kill those suspecting them, now they killed those not caring about Nisani, thereby making it more likely that Nisani was lynched.

I agree with those saying that we should lynch another player. My suggestion would be Zephirdd.


just the whole thing. What are you stating actually?

Scum wanted today to be spent lynching Nisani, so they killed a few players who didn´t care about lynching Nisani. After 2 failed attempts to kill Nisani to frustrate Town, and now with less people who think he is town/don´t care either way, the Nisani lynch was made much easier. Scum are manipulating the lynches, that shouldn´t be a surprise.

When looking at it like that, it´s possible that Drazerk was killed by a Vigilante, in order to confirm hyshes.
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