EPTI hope I didn't die but if I died oh well. This game has not needed the thread more or less lololol
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I hope I didn't die but if I died oh well. This game has not needed the thread more or less lololol | ||
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However, I managed to convince sandro I was tudor (rofl) + Show Spoiler + [10/21/2011 8:27:31 PM] wherebugsgo: what? [10/21/2011 8:27:40 PM] sandroba: my plan from day0 [10/21/2011 8:27:45 PM] sandroba: look at mafia roles [10/21/2011 8:27:50 PM] sandroba: and night kills [10/21/2011 8:27:57 PM] sandroba: they have no extra kp [10/21/2011 8:28:13 PM] sandroba: they had to pick defensive to adapt to my plan [10/21/2011 8:34:52 PM] wherebugsgo: sandro [10/21/2011 8:34:54 PM] wherebugsgo: are you scum? [10/21/2011 8:35:23 PM] sandroba: I thought you went over this already? [10/21/2011 8:35:29 PM] wherebugsgo: nah [10/21/2011 8:35:35 PM] sandroba: I'm obviously not scum [10/21/2011 8:35:40 PM] wherebugsgo: really? [10/21/2011 8:35:44 PM] sandroba: real [10/21/2011 8:35:48 PM] wherebugsgo: hmm well [10/21/2011 8:36:01 PM] wherebugsgo: I am scum [10/21/2011 8:36:04 PM] wherebugsgo: and I am shooting you tonight [10/21/2011 8:36:13 PM] sandroba: lol what? [10/21/2011 8:36:22 PM] wherebugsgo: yep [10/21/2011 8:36:31 PM] wherebugsgo: so [10/21/2011 8:36:33 PM] wherebugsgo: if you are scum [10/21/2011 8:36:34 PM] wherebugsgo: and don't want to die [10/21/2011 8:36:44 PM] wherebugsgo: you should work with me [10/21/2011 8:36:46 PM] sandroba: I'm not =/ [10/21/2011 8:36:56 PM] sandroba: you be dead anyway [10/21/2011 8:37:03 PM] wherebugsgo: nah [10/21/2011 8:37:04 PM] wherebugsgo: I won't die [10/21/2011 8:37:25 PM] wherebugsgo: not scared of death this game lol [10/21/2011 8:37:32 PM] sandroba: k give me a link to your qt [10/21/2011 8:37:42 PM] wherebugsgo: I can give you a picture [10/21/2011 8:37:46 PM] wherebugsgo: I shall not give you the QT itself [10/21/2011 8:38:06 PM] wherebugsgo: http://i53.tinypic.com/2qrzhow.jpg [10/21/2011 8:38:44 PM] sandroba: fuck you are scum [10/21/2011 8:38:46 PM] sandroba: me too [10/21/2011 8:38:46 PM] wherebugsgo: LOL [10/21/2011 8:38:47 PM] sandroba: lol [10/21/2011 8:39:05 PM] wherebugsgo: awesome [10/21/2011 8:39:08 PM] wherebugsgo: who are you shooting tonight [10/21/2011 8:39:15 PM] sandroba: I was shooting you lol [10/21/2011 8:39:18 PM] wherebugsgo: ok don't shoot me retard [10/21/2011 8:39:19 PM] sandroba: thinking parity cop [10/21/2011 8:39:34 PM] sandroba: mig wants me dead [10/21/2011 8:39:36 PM] sandroba: anyway [10/21/2011 8:39:39 PM] wherebugsgo: ok no worries [10/21/2011 8:39:45 PM] sandroba: how are you not going to shoot me [10/21/2011 8:39:50 PM] wherebugsgo: I won't [10/21/2011 8:39:57 PM] wherebugsgo: but I will shoot the DF [10/21/2011 8:40:04 PM] wherebugsgo: I think Erandor is the parity cop [10/21/2011 8:40:06 PM] wherebugsgo: Mig told me [10/21/2011 8:40:15 PM] sandroba: makes no sense [10/21/2011 8:40:19 PM] sandroba: if not you [10/21/2011 8:40:22 PM] sandroba: then heist [10/21/2011 8:40:47 PM] wherebugsgo: well [10/21/2011 8:40:50 PM] wherebugsgo: Mig might not trust me [10/21/2011 8:40:58 PM] wherebugsgo: and Palmar said erandor was vig [10/21/2011 8:41:01 PM] wherebugsgo: but he's not dead yet? [10/21/2011 8:41:04 PM] sandroba: errandor is vanilla [10/21/2011 8:41:08 PM] sandroba: he claimed to me [10/21/2011 8:41:11 PM] wherebugsgo: wtf [10/21/2011 8:41:11 PM] sandroba: he tried df [10/21/2011 8:41:14 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 8:41:18 PM] wherebugsgo: so you think he's confirmed? [10/21/2011 8:41:25 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 8:41:28 PM] wherebugsgo: alright [10/21/2011 8:41:32 PM] sandroba: prp is the last lanc [10/21/2011 8:41:35 PM] sandroba: me york [10/21/2011 8:41:38 PM] sandroba: you tudor [10/21/2011 8:41:45 PM] sandroba: it makes sense [10/21/2011 8:41:51 PM] wherebugsgo: ok cool [10/21/2011 8:42:20 PM] sandroba: well who are you shooting then [10/21/2011 8:42:28 PM] wherebugsgo: I will shoot hiro [10/21/2011 8:42:29 PM] sandroba: I assume you have kp then [10/21/2011 8:42:37 PM] sandroba: besides mafia [10/21/2011 8:42:48 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah I do [10/21/2011 8:42:50 PM] wherebugsgo: I'm CPR [10/21/2011 8:42:56 PM] sandroba: cool [10/21/2011 8:43:10 PM] sandroba: lol they let you go unchecked too [10/21/2011 8:43:12 PM] sandroba: rofl [10/21/2011 8:43:13 PM] wherebugsgo: yep lol [10/21/2011 8:43:20 PM] sandroba: k hiro then who else? [10/21/2011 8:43:23 PM] wherebugsgo: ok well [10/21/2011 8:43:27 PM] wherebugsgo: who are you shooting? [10/21/2011 8:43:30 PM] wherebugsgo: you should shoot ken [10/21/2011 8:43:39 PM] wherebugsgo: he's probably inventor [10/21/2011 8:43:43 PM] sandroba: we should shoot hiro/heist/bodyguard [10/21/2011 8:43:47 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 8:43:51 PM] wherebugsgo: I will shoot both hiro and heist [10/21/2011 8:43:52 PM] sandroba: lol what? [10/21/2011 8:43:55 PM] wherebugsgo: ken [10/21/2011 8:43:57 PM] wherebugsgo: has roleswapper [10/21/2011 8:44:02 PM] wherebugsgo: Mig told me he roleswapped jimbo [10/21/2011 8:44:13 PM] sandroba: he doesnt I think [10/21/2011 8:44:17 PM] wherebugsgo: well [10/21/2011 8:44:21 PM] wherebugsgo: he has roleswap rofl [10/21/2011 8:44:24 PM] wherebugsgo: he could roleswap me [10/21/2011 8:44:26 PM] sandroba: I think the role died with kita [10/21/2011 8:44:35 PM] wherebugsgo: so you think kenpachi is lying?! [10/21/2011 8:44:48 PM] sandroba: I think he is vanilla right now [10/21/2011 8:44:51 PM] sandroba: dunno really [10/21/2011 8:44:55 PM] sandroba: how that works [10/21/2011 8:45:17 PM] sandroba: but yeah maybe kenp has rs hm... [10/21/2011 8:45:26 PM] sandroba: but what we really need to do [10/21/2011 8:45:34 PM] sandroba: is get a way to kill mig/rad [10/21/2011 8:45:42 PM] sandroba: so we need to kill bg asap [10/21/2011 8:45:52 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah [10/21/2011 8:45:58 PM] wherebugsgo: but I have that covered [10/21/2011 8:46:00 PM] wherebugsgo: sinani was BG [10/21/2011 8:46:04 PM] wherebugsgo: we subbed him [10/21/2011 8:46:14 PM] sandroba: we? [10/21/2011 8:46:33 PM] wherebugsgo: sorry super [10/21/2011 8:46:42 PM] sandroba: what? [10/21/2011 8:46:46 PM] wherebugsgo: we subbed super [10/21/2011 8:46:48 PM] wherebugsgo: as a BG [10/21/2011 8:46:50 PM] wherebugsgo: he didn't flip BG [10/21/2011 8:46:54 PM] wherebugsgo: but he was [10/21/2011 8:47:01 PM] sandroba: sinani was bg too [10/21/2011 8:47:09 PM] sandroba: we can kill rad/mig tonight! [10/21/2011 8:47:10 PM] wherebugsgo: are you srs? [10/21/2011 8:47:11 PM] wherebugsgo: LOL [10/21/2011 8:47:13 PM] sandroba: yes [10/21/2011 8:47:17 PM] sandroba: 100% serious [10/21/2011 8:47:25 PM] wherebugsgo: LOLOLOLOL [10/21/2011 8:47:28 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 8:47:30 PM] wherebugsgo: you shoot Mig [10/21/2011 8:47:32 PM] sandroba: I thought he was getting modkilled [10/21/2011 8:47:35 PM] wherebugsgo: I will shoot heist/Radfield [10/21/2011 8:47:44 PM] sandroba: cool [10/21/2011 8:47:47 PM] sandroba: lolol [10/21/2011 8:47:58 PM] sandroba: man I know I can't win this [10/21/2011 8:48:06 PM] wherebugsgo: it's alright we can do this [10/21/2011 8:48:07 PM] sandroba: as you'll prob kill me tomorrow [10/21/2011 8:48:09 PM] wherebugsgo: they don't suspect me [10/21/2011 8:48:15 PM] wherebugsgo: we need to kill prpl [10/21/2011 8:48:17 PM] wherebugsgo: tomorrow night [10/21/2011 8:48:27 PM] sandroba: well only one of us can win [10/21/2011 8:48:30 PM] wherebugsgo: true [10/21/2011 8:48:30 PM] wherebugsgo: fuck [10/21/2011 8:48:30 PM] sandroba: and you have 2 kp [10/21/2011 8:48:35 PM] sandroba: lol [10/21/2011 8:48:38 PM] wherebugsgo: lol you know what would suck [10/21/2011 8:48:38 PM] sandroba: it's k [10/21/2011 8:48:40 PM] wherebugsgo: if we both die [10/21/2011 8:48:41 PM] wherebugsgo: same night [10/21/2011 8:48:43 PM] wherebugsgo: -_- [10/21/2011 8:48:53 PM] wherebugsgo: but what happens if all town die [10/21/2011 8:48:54 PM] wherebugsgo: and we're left [10/21/2011 8:48:58 PM] sandroba: lets agree right now [10/21/2011 8:49:03 PM] sandroba: not to shoot each other [10/21/2011 8:49:09 PM] sandroba: if u have a way to sure win [10/21/2011 8:49:17 PM] sandroba: and have spare kp to kill me [10/21/2011 8:49:21 PM] sandroba: ofc you kill me [10/21/2011 8:49:25 PM] sandroba: but not before [10/21/2011 8:49:27 PM] sandroba: deal? [10/21/2011 8:49:42 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 8:49:52 PM] wherebugsgo: sounds good [10/21/2011 8:50:11 PM] sandroba: we both try to get just us 2 last [10/21/2011 8:50:28 PM] sandroba: and then host will have to come up with a joint win [10/21/2011 8:50:38 PM] sandroba: or give you victory since you have more kp [10/21/2011 8:50:43 PM] wherebugsgo: hopefully [10/21/2011 8:50:44 PM] wherebugsgo: omg [10/21/2011 8:50:49 PM] wherebugsgo: I thought this setup [10/21/2011 8:50:50 PM] sandroba: I swear I won't shoot you [10/21/2011 8:50:52 PM] wherebugsgo: was designed to avoid kingmaker [10/21/2011 8:51:15 PM] sandroba: k man [10/21/2011 8:51:20 PM] sandroba: tell mig you are shooting me [10/21/2011 8:51:26 PM] sandroba: and we kill him [10/21/2011 8:51:31 PM] wherebugsgo: will do [10/21/2011 8:51:32 PM] sandroba: and rad [10/21/2011 8:51:42 PM] sandroba: I'll shoot mig then [10/21/2011 8:52:19 PM] wherebugsgo: ok sandro definitely 100% scum Mig I'm shooting him tonight I think Erandor might be last scum so you should have DF shoot erandor [10/21/2011 8:52:38 PM] wherebugsgo: no reply :/ [10/21/2011 8:52:49 PM] sandroba: hmm [10/21/2011 8:52:52 PM] wherebugsgo: but w/e [10/21/2011 8:52:55 PM] wherebugsgo: we don't need them rofl [10/21/2011 8:53:07 PM] sandroba: you need to avoid being shot by df [10/21/2011 8:53:10 PM] sandroba: this one night [10/21/2011 8:53:13 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah I know [10/21/2011 8:53:15 PM] wherebugsgo: I convinced them [10/21/2011 8:53:18 PM] wherebugsgo: not to shoot me with DF [10/21/2011 8:53:22 PM] sandroba: I can't win without you =P [10/21/2011 8:53:43 PM] wherebugsgo: however since foolish/jimbo were town [10/21/2011 8:53:43 PM] sandroba: can I tell mig [10/21/2011 8:53:51 PM] sandroba: you told me you will be shooting me [10/21/2011 8:53:53 PM] wherebugsgo: I think I've convinced them to use the DT checks on other people [10/21/2011 8:53:55 PM] sandroba: and complain to him [10/21/2011 8:54:05 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah go for it [10/21/2011 8:54:16 PM] wherebugsgo: he'll think we can't both be scum rofl [10/21/2011 8:55:23 PM] sandroba: man wtf wbg just told me he is shooting me sigh man if you lose this game for us I'll make fun of you forever! =P seriously don't shoot me [10/21/2011 8:55:28 PM] wherebugsgo: LOL [10/21/2011 8:55:31 PM] wherebugsgo: classic [10/21/2011 8:55:47 PM] sandroba: =) [10/21/2011 9:05:33 PM] sandroba: another point [10/21/2011 9:05:44 PM] sandroba: is that if kenp is inventor [10/21/2011 9:05:57 PM] sandroba: he will prob give the invention to one of rad/mig [10/21/2011 9:06:04 PM] wherebugsgo: true [10/21/2011 9:06:11 PM] sandroba: so it will die with them [10/21/2011 9:06:15 PM] wherebugsgo: hahahaha [10/21/2011 9:06:27 PM] sandroba: and we can deal with kenp tomorrow ^^ [10/21/2011 9:06:43 PM] wherebugsgo: maybe I can get him to give me an invention [10/21/2011 9:06:45 PM] wherebugsgo: after they are dead [10/21/2011 9:06:56 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 9:07:20 PM] sandroba: we only need 1 more mislynch [10/21/2011 9:07:35 PM] sandroba: we can say we know who has the kp [10/21/2011 9:07:43 PM] sandroba: and push for his lynch [10/21/2011 9:07:46 PM] wherebugsgo: right [10/21/2011 9:08:05 PM] sandroba: fuck [10/21/2011 9:08:08 PM] sandroba: scamp [10/21/2011 9:08:13 PM] sandroba: prp must shoot scamp [10/21/2011 9:08:24 PM] sandroba: nukes might fuck us [10/21/2011 9:09:08 PM] wherebugsgo: hmmm [10/21/2011 9:09:14 PM] wherebugsgo: wait [10/21/2011 9:09:27 PM] wherebugsgo: so I'm shooting heist right [10/21/2011 9:09:31 PM] sandroba: does anyone besides mig/heist/rad know you are cpr? [10/21/2011 9:09:37 PM] wherebugsgo: nope [10/21/2011 9:09:43 PM] wherebugsgo: only Mig/Rad I believe [10/21/2011 9:09:45 PM] sandroba: then we are golden [10/21/2011 9:09:51 PM] wherebugsgo: ok so [10/21/2011 9:09:53 PM] wherebugsgo: here's what we can do [10/21/2011 9:09:58 PM] wherebugsgo: I'll shoot heist and scamp [10/21/2011 9:10:03 PM] wherebugsgo: that should free up Radfield/Mig [10/21/2011 9:10:07 PM] wherebugsgo: you shoot Mig [10/21/2011 9:10:11 PM] wherebugsgo: prpl can shoot Radfield [10/21/2011 9:10:25 PM] wherebugsgo: I want to ensure myself that the BG/nuker are killed [10/21/2011 9:10:34 PM] sandroba: bg are all dead already [10/21/2011 9:10:45 PM] wherebugsgo: wait heist is not bg? [10/21/2011 9:10:51 PM] sandroba: heist must die because he is parity cop [10/21/2011 9:10:54 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 9:10:56 PM] wherebugsgo: then I'll shoot heist [10/21/2011 9:10:58 PM] sandroba: he checked jacuzzi [10/21/2011 9:11:05 PM] sandroba: and mig checked heist [10/21/2011 9:11:10 PM] wherebugsgo: alright [10/21/2011 9:11:19 PM] wherebugsgo: wtf how do you know this and I don't rofl [10/21/2011 9:11:24 PM] wherebugsgo: ok good anyway [10/21/2011 9:11:36 PM] sandroba: well I have done a lot of deduction work [10/21/2011 9:11:40 PM] wherebugsgo: hahaha [10/21/2011 9:11:41 PM] wherebugsgo: gj [10/21/2011 9:11:44 PM] sandroba: only you/heist could be parity [10/21/2011 9:11:51 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah it's not me [10/21/2011 9:11:52 PM] sandroba: hiro must be df [10/21/2011 9:11:54 PM] wherebugsgo: I killed cheese first night [10/21/2011 9:11:58 PM] wherebugsgo: gave me lots of town cred rfl [10/21/2011 9:12:03 PM] wherebugsgo: then killed foolish [10/21/2011 9:12:16 PM] sandroba: well you just told me you aren't but I didn't know [10/21/2011 9:12:18 PM] sandroba: lol [10/21/2011 9:12:26 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah now you know :D [10/21/2011 9:12:30 PM] sandroba: so now it just leaves heist [10/21/2011 9:12:33 PM] wherebugsgo: ok so [10/21/2011 9:12:37 PM] wherebugsgo: I'll kill heist/scamp [10/21/2011 9:12:41 PM] wherebugsgo: no nukes, no DTs tomorrow [10/21/2011 9:12:46 PM] wherebugsgo: they won't even be able to post their checks [10/21/2011 9:12:48 PM] wherebugsgo: cause they'll be dead [10/21/2011 9:13:03 PM] wherebugsgo: LOL I think we might win [10/21/2011 9:13:10 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 9:13:14 PM] sandroba: we have to sell [10/21/2011 9:13:20 PM] sandroba: a hell of a story tomorrow [10/21/2011 9:13:22 PM] wherebugsgo: indeed [10/21/2011 9:13:33 PM] sandroba: we wil work the details [10/21/2011 9:13:39 PM] wherebugsgo: well we have 4 KP going into town [10/21/2011 9:13:56 PM] sandroba: prp will prob die to df though [10/21/2011 9:13:59 PM] wherebugsgo: true [10/21/2011 9:14:05 PM] wherebugsgo: so that leaves me/you and 5 townies [10/21/2011 9:14:14 PM] sandroba: hmm [10/21/2011 9:14:25 PM] sandroba: you could claim df [10/21/2011 9:14:28 PM] sandroba: instead [10/21/2011 9:14:30 PM] wherebugsgo: uhhh [10/21/2011 9:14:33 PM] wherebugsgo: hmmm [10/21/2011 9:14:36 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah and get hiro lynched? [10/21/2011 9:14:37 PM] sandroba: and have town lynch the df claim [10/21/2011 9:14:40 PM] sandroba: yes [10/21/2011 9:14:45 PM] sandroba: then we are golden [10/21/2011 9:14:51 PM] wherebugsgo: yep then 3 KP rol [10/21/2011 9:15:03 PM] sandroba: if we lynch hiro tomorrow [10/21/2011 9:15:08 PM] sandroba: gg [10/21/2011 9:15:19 PM] sandroba: we say he is cpr [10/21/2011 9:15:27 PM] sandroba: I will confirm to know [10/21/2011 9:15:30 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 9:15:35 PM] wherebugsgo: hahaha I like this plan [10/21/2011 9:15:37 PM] sandroba: we both in circle [10/21/2011 9:15:43 PM] sandroba: vs no people in circle [10/21/2011 9:15:43 PM] sandroba: gg [10/21/2011 9:15:57 PM] sandroba: we are suposed to know that shit [10/21/2011 9:15:59 PM] wherebugsgo: indeed [10/21/2011 9:16:03 PM] wherebugsgo: you'll be best player left [10/21/2011 9:16:09 PM] sandroba: they will never expect mafia allied [10/21/2011 9:16:12 PM] wherebugsgo: me I'm just scummy wtf why would scum shoot me? [10/21/2011 9:16:23 PM] wherebugsgo:  [10/21/2011 9:16:27 PM] sandroba: =) [10/21/2011 9:17:02 PM] sandroba: I'm meapak's bg [10/21/2011 9:17:05 PM] sandroba: thus vanilla [10/21/2011 9:17:07 PM] wherebugsgo: ok I need prpl to reply [10/21/2011 9:17:12 PM] sandroba: mafia has no reason to shoot me [10/21/2011 9:17:20 PM] wherebugsgo: yes [10/21/2011 9:17:39 PM] sandroba: make sure you send the pic [10/21/2011 9:17:41 PM] sandroba: to prove it [10/21/2011 9:17:43 PM] wherebugsgo: k [10/21/2011 9:17:54 PM] wherebugsgo: he is lancaster and you are york? [10/21/2011 9:17:55 PM] wherebugsgo: or other way around [10/21/2011 9:18:00 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 9:18:02 PM] sandroba: I'm york [10/21/2011 9:18:03 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 9:18:17 PM] wherebugsgo: rofl [10/21/2011 9:18:22 PM] wherebugsgo: can't believe prpl fake claimed df [10/21/2011 9:18:24 PM] wherebugsgo: so ballsy [10/21/2011 9:18:36 PM] wherebugsgo: how did you know he's lancaster [10/21/2011 9:19:01 PM] sandroba: trough mig's thing [10/21/2011 9:19:25 PM] sandroba: syllo told cyber town was going to shoot prp [10/21/2011 9:19:42 PM] sandroba: so wiggles didn't protect either chaoser or cyber night 1 [10/21/2011 9:19:47 PM] wherebugsgo: oh so wiggles probably protted prpl [10/21/2011 9:19:48 PM] wherebugsgo: oh shit [10/21/2011 9:19:49 PM] wherebugsgo: lol [10/21/2011 9:19:52 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 9:21:01 PM] wherebugsgo: lol so who did you think was tudor before I claimed [10/21/2011 9:21:19 PM] sandroba: either you or kenp [10/21/2011 9:21:27 PM] wherebugsgo: kenpachi as nkvd rofl [10/21/2011 9:21:36 PM] sandroba: well [10/21/2011 9:21:45 PM] sandroba: I though you were parity so... [10/21/2011 9:21:46 PM] sandroba: lol [10/21/2011 9:21:51 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah true I guess lol [10/21/2011 9:22:38 PM] sandroba: man [10/21/2011 9:22:47 PM] sandroba: I'm so excited right now lol [10/21/2011 9:22:50 PM] wherebugsgo: hahaha me too [10/21/2011 9:23:04 PM] sandroba: even if you win and I don't [10/21/2011 9:23:17 PM] sandroba: I'll feel more acomplished [10/21/2011 9:23:20 PM] wherebugsgo: dude [10/21/2011 9:23:25 PM] wherebugsgo: if we pull this off o_I [10/21/2011 9:23:28 PM] sandroba: I fucking helped town a ton this game [10/21/2011 9:23:32 PM] wherebugsgo: same here rofl [10/21/2011 9:23:35 PM] sandroba: and they fucking shoot me in the end [10/21/2011 9:23:40 PM] sandroba: so sad [10/21/2011 9:23:44 PM] wherebugsgo: lol [10/21/2011 9:23:50 PM] wherebugsgo: and you almost shot me -_- [10/21/2011 9:23:52 PM] wherebugsgo: that could've been bad [10/21/2011 9:23:56 PM] sandroba: yeah lol [10/21/2011 9:24:04 PM] sandroba: I had alreaddy sent in the kill [10/21/2011 9:24:09 PM] wherebugsgo: rofl hope you changed [10/21/2011 9:24:18 PM] sandroba: I did already [10/21/2011 9:24:21 PM] sandroba: shooting mig [10/21/2011 9:24:24 PM] wherebugsgo: good good [10/21/2011 9:24:27 PM] wherebugsgo: he needs to die [10/21/2011 9:24:33 PM] wherebugsgo: damn him and rad in office [10/21/2011 9:24:36 PM] wherebugsgo: such a pain in the ass [10/21/2011 9:24:39 PM] sandroba: k wait [10/21/2011 9:24:46 PM] sandroba: why did ss claim hider? [10/21/2011 9:24:51 PM] wherebugsgo: idfk [10/21/2011 9:24:52 PM] sandroba: when he was bg? [10/21/2011 9:24:53 PM] wherebugsgo: he's a retard [10/21/2011 9:24:57 PM] sandroba: rofl [10/21/2011 9:25:02 PM] wherebugsgo: I called him [10/21/2011 9:25:04 PM] sandroba: that means insta mafia [10/21/2011 9:25:04 PM] wherebugsgo: an idiot so many times [10/21/2011 9:25:09 PM] wherebugsgo: he legitimately got pissed at me [10/21/2011 9:25:14 PM] wherebugsgo: and you saw [10/21/2011 9:25:16 PM] wherebugsgo: in thread lol [10/21/2011 9:25:17 PM] wherebugsgo: how mad he was [10/21/2011 9:25:25 PM] wherebugsgo: he wouldn't stop insulting me lolol [10/21/2011 9:25:35 PM] sandroba: man [10/21/2011 9:25:48 PM] wherebugsgo: like why he would claim hider [10/21/2011 9:25:49 PM] wherebugsgo: I have no clue [10/21/2011 9:25:55 PM] wherebugsgo: just so dumb [10/21/2011 9:25:59 PM] sandroba: that makes him 100% mafia [10/21/2011 9:26:04 PM] wherebugsgo: yep [10/21/2011 9:26:07 PM] wherebugsgo: plus he did jack shit all game [10/21/2011 9:26:10 PM] sandroba: because he has a role [10/21/2011 9:26:14 PM] wherebugsgo: so no chance I could save him [10/21/2011 9:26:20 PM] sandroba: and bg's aren't supposed to have a role [10/21/2011 9:26:29 PM] wherebugsgo: yep [10/21/2011 9:26:32 PM] sandroba: =/ [10/21/2011 9:26:33 PM] wherebugsgo: 100% mafia to Radfield [10/21/2011 9:26:35 PM] wherebugsgo: and Mig [10/21/2011 9:26:38 PM] wherebugsgo: as soon as that broke [10/21/2011 9:26:44 PM] wherebugsgo: mostly Rad though he was like wtf? [10/21/2011 9:26:58 PM] sandroba: so dumb... [10/21/2011 9:27:07 PM] sandroba: man I got sinani/node combo on my team [10/21/2011 9:27:10 PM] sandroba: so sad [10/21/2011 9:27:21 PM] sandroba: sinani [10/21/2011 9:27:22 PM] wherebugsgo: lol [10/21/2011 9:27:27 PM] sandroba: didn't even pick a role [10/21/2011 9:27:28 PM] sandroba: or numbers [10/21/2011 9:27:29 PM] wherebugsgo: wtf? [10/21/2011 9:27:32 PM] wherebugsgo: are you serious [10/21/2011 9:27:35 PM] sandroba: yup [10/21/2011 9:27:45 PM] sandroba: and we couldn't submit it for him [10/21/2011 9:27:55 PM] sandroba: and node was supposed to get thief [10/21/2011 9:28:00 PM] sandroba: and instead got america [10/21/2011 9:28:07 PM] sandroba: -_- [10/21/2011 9:28:14 PM] wherebugsgo: wait [10/21/2011 9:28:15 PM] wherebugsgo: what [10/21/2011 9:28:19 PM] wherebugsgo: wtf? [10/21/2011 9:28:28 PM] sandroba: he didn't listen to me/kita [10/21/2011 9:28:33 PM] wherebugsgo: OH [10/21/2011 9:28:37 PM] sandroba: and picked america for luls [10/21/2011 9:28:39 PM] wherebugsgo: I thought he sent for thief and got america intead lol [10/21/2011 9:28:44 PM] sandroba: no lol [10/21/2011 9:28:48 PM] wherebugsgo: died day 1 rofl [10/21/2011 9:28:52 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 9:28:54 PM] sandroba: I was like [10/21/2011 9:28:57 PM] wherebugsgo: so close to lynching heist too [10/21/2011 9:29:04 PM] sandroba: NODE FUCKING MAKE SOME POSTS [10/21/2011 9:29:11 PM] sandroba: DON'T SUPPORT GREYMIST [10/21/2011 9:29:13 PM] wherebugsgo: if heist got lynched day 1 o_O [10/21/2011 9:29:47 PM] sandroba: jackal is too good man [10/21/2011 9:29:51 PM] sandroba: take ackbar as town [10/21/2011 9:29:55 PM] wherebugsgo: LOL [10/21/2011 9:29:57 PM] sandroba: and suicide ace claim [10/21/2011 9:29:58 PM] wherebugsgo: then hit palmar [10/21/2011 9:29:58 PM] wherebugsgo: rofl [10/21/2011 9:30:00 PM] sandroba: pro [10/21/2011 9:30:01 PM] wherebugsgo: I laughed so hard [10/21/2011 9:30:06 PM] wherebugsgo: soooo hard [10/21/2011 9:30:07 PM] sandroba: me too [10/21/2011 9:30:14 PM] wherebugsgo: single handedly destroyed town advantage that day [10/21/2011 9:30:24 PM] wherebugsgo: lynch two scum? jackal to the rescue rofl [10/21/2011 9:30:29 PM] sandroba: man [10/21/2011 9:30:36 PM] sandroba: I sold jimbo/fool as mafia [10/21/2011 9:30:38 PM] sandroba: so much [10/21/2011 9:30:44 PM] sandroba: it's not even funny lol [10/21/2011 9:30:55 PM] sandroba: did you guys shoot kita btw? [10/21/2011 9:31:34 PM] wherebugsgo: no [10/21/2011 9:31:38 PM] wherebugsgo: still don't know who shot kita lol [10/21/2011 9:32:00 PM] sandroba: other mafia team then [10/21/2011 9:32:02 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah [10/21/2011 9:32:06 PM] sandroba: town didn't shoot kita [10/21/2011 9:32:16 PM] sandroba: everyone thought he was town [10/21/2011 9:32:18 PM] wherebugsgo: indeed [10/21/2011 9:32:22 PM] wherebugsgo: I thought he was town rofl [10/21/2011 9:32:27 PM] sandroba: =) [10/21/2011 9:32:28 PM] wherebugsgo: he outed me day 1 for using a fake IRC [10/21/2011 9:32:33 PM] wherebugsgo: I was like fuck not so fast [10/21/2011 9:32:41 PM] sandroba: did you really think I was mafia btw [10/21/2011 9:32:46 PM] sandroba: day1/2 [10/21/2011 9:32:47 PM] wherebugsgo: umm [10/21/2011 9:32:49 PM] wherebugsgo: day 1 I was unsure [10/21/2011 9:32:52 PM] wherebugsgo: day 2 I was like uhhh [10/21/2011 9:32:58 PM] wherebugsgo: this guy is 80% scum [10/21/2011 9:33:07 PM] wherebugsgo: or doing something really crazy to stay alive and rape us all day 3 [10/21/2011 9:33:11 PM] sandroba: who did you guys shoot [10/21/2011 9:33:12 PM] sandroba: ytd [10/21/2011 9:33:22 PM] wherebugsgo: we shot jimbo [10/21/2011 9:33:28 PM] wherebugsgo: there's a KP missing [10/21/2011 9:33:31 PM] wherebugsgo: did you shoot jimbo as well? [10/21/2011 9:33:32 PM] sandroba: I shot syllo [10/21/2011 9:33:39 PM] sandroba: someone was prob double stacked [10/21/2011 9:33:41 PM] wherebugsgo: hmm [10/21/2011 9:33:44 PM] wherebugsgo: well it can't have been foolish [10/21/2011 9:33:47 PM] wherebugsgo: because I CPR'd him [10/21/2011 9:33:59 PM] sandroba: either jimbo or syllo then [10/21/2011 9:34:06 PM] wherebugsgo: jimbo/foolish were in my PM circle [10/21/2011 9:34:09 PM] wherebugsgo: chezinu house circle [10/21/2011 9:34:19 PM] wherebugsgo: I roped them in day 0 [10/21/2011 9:34:30 PM] wherebugsgo: found out foolish wanted to lay low [10/21/2011 9:34:32 PM] sandroba: do you know [10/21/2011 9:34:42 PM] sandroba: wtf is up with invention [10/21/2011 9:34:45 PM] wherebugsgo: no [10/21/2011 9:34:47 PM] wherebugsgo: I have no idea what that is [10/21/2011 9:34:51 PM] wherebugsgo: or who has it [10/21/2011 9:35:04 PM] wherebugsgo: I don't think it's Mig [10/21/2011 9:35:10 PM] wherebugsgo: he would've told me if he had it [10/21/2011 9:36:00 PM] sandroba: it's prob fool [10/21/2011 9:36:15 PM] sandroba: because rad didn't know about it either [10/21/2011 9:36:17 PM] wherebugsgo: so you think he died with it? [10/21/2011 9:36:22 PM] sandroba: yeah I do [10/21/2011 9:36:46 PM] sandroba: either way [10/21/2011 9:36:50 PM] sandroba: if he didn't [10/21/2011 9:36:55 PM] sandroba: then we kill whoever has it [10/21/2011 9:36:58 PM] wherebugsgo: I think you might be right [10/21/2011 9:36:58 PM] sandroba: tonight [10/21/2011 9:37:06 PM] wherebugsgo: bc the two players Jimbo thought were town [10/21/2011 9:37:08 PM] wherebugsgo: were me and Foolish [10/21/2011 9:37:13 PM] wherebugsgo: he didn't trust Rad/Mig [10/21/2011 9:37:15 PM] wherebugsgo: well [10/21/2011 9:37:20 PM] wherebugsgo: he didn't trust you/syllo/Rad/Mig [10/21/2011 9:37:33 PM] sandroba: man [10/21/2011 9:37:40 PM] sandroba: so funny if this works [10/21/2011 9:37:45 PM] wherebugsgo: hahaha [10/21/2011 9:37:46 PM] wherebugsgo: indeed [10/21/2011 9:39:55 PM] sandroba: so tomorrow if everything goes right [10/21/2011 9:40:05 PM] sandroba: we will be looking at this player list: [10/21/2011 9:40:13 PM] sandroba: 3. GreYMisT [10/21/2011 9:40:19 PM] sandroba: 5.sandroba [10/21/2011 9:40:25 PM] sandroba: 6. wherebugsgo [10/21/2011 9:40:33 PM] sandroba: 16. JACCUZISPLAT [10/21/2011 9:40:44 PM] sandroba: 20. hiro protagonist [10/21/2011 9:40:51 PM] sandroba: 24. Kenpachi 25. Erandorr [10/21/2011 9:40:59 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 9:41:03 PM] sandroba: I can convince errandor [10/21/2011 9:41:07 PM] sandroba: to vote with us [10/21/2011 9:41:13 PM] wherebugsgo: so we can push grey/hiro as lynches [10/21/2011 9:41:25 PM] wherebugsgo: possibly ON as well [10/21/2011 9:41:26 PM] sandroba: if hiro dies [10/21/2011 9:41:27 PM] sandroba: we win [10/21/2011 9:41:30 PM] wherebugsgo: yes lol [10/21/2011 9:41:32 PM] sandroba: 100% [10/21/2011 9:41:35 PM] wherebugsgo: let's say [10/21/2011 9:41:46 PM] wherebugsgo: hiro/ON scumteam [10/21/2011 9:42:01 PM] sandroba: now kenpachi thinks I'm scum [10/21/2011 9:42:09 PM] sandroba: no [10/21/2011 9:42:16 PM] sandroba: they have to be independant [10/21/2011 9:42:21 PM] wherebugsgo: wait ken thinks you're scum? [10/21/2011 9:42:31 PM] sandroba: well he voted for me today [10/21/2011 9:42:38 PM] wherebugsgo: ah yes [10/21/2011 9:42:56 PM] sandroba: we only need one more [10/21/2011 9:43:05 PM] sandroba: you have to fake [10/21/2011 9:43:11 PM] sandroba: several skype convos [10/21/2011 9:43:15 PM] sandroba: with mig/rad [10/21/2011 9:43:16 PM] wherebugsgo: k [10/21/2011 9:43:17 PM] sandroba: before had [10/21/2011 9:43:19 PM] wherebugsgo: not too hard [10/21/2011 9:43:23 PM] wherebugsgo: I have a lot of skype convo with them [10/21/2011 9:43:28 PM] sandroba: of you claiming df [10/21/2011 9:43:28 PM] wherebugsgo: I can just edit out messages [10/21/2011 9:43:41 PM] sandroba: and they telling you to shoot prp [10/21/2011 9:43:52 PM] sandroba: you claiming df way back [10/21/2011 9:44:04 PM] wherebugsgo: yup [10/21/2011 9:44:07 PM] wherebugsgo: and I know all the DF hits [10/21/2011 9:44:14 PM] wherebugsgo: chaoser/wiggles/prpl [10/21/2011 9:44:21 PM] wherebugsgo: so that will check out [10/21/2011 9:44:24 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 9:44:31 PM] sandroba: you must fake everything beforehand [10/21/2011 9:44:50 PM] sandroba: so if they ask you to post you can do it imidiatly [10/21/2011 9:45:00 PM] wherebugsgo: yep [10/21/2011 9:45:01 PM] sandroba: and we bankk on hiro inactivity [10/21/2011 9:45:04 PM] wherebugsgo: I'll do it now lol [10/21/2011 9:45:05 PM] wherebugsgo: hiro [10/21/2011 9:45:08 PM] wherebugsgo: will not be able to defend himself [10/21/2011 9:45:12 PM] wherebugsgo: he'll show up like 6 hours late [10/21/2011 9:45:13 PM] sandroba: so he will take time [10/21/2011 9:45:15 PM] wherebugsgo: wtf faked logs hiro [10/21/2011 9:45:19 PM] sandroba: and we sell that he faked it [10/21/2011 9:45:24 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 9:45:29 PM] wherebugsgo: he'll probably only have 1 page lol [10/21/2011 9:45:40 PM] sandroba: yeah [10/21/2011 9:45:51 PM] sandroba: and prob only pms [10/21/2011 9:45:58 PM] wherebugsgo: hyup [10/21/2011 9:45:59 PM] wherebugsgo: no skype [10/21/2011 9:46:03 PM] sandroba: yeah man [10/21/2011 9:46:06 PM] sandroba: this will work [10/21/2011 9:46:14 PM] sandroba: I confirm everything [10/21/2011 9:46:28 PM] sandroba: they have no way of saying we are both mafia working toghether [10/21/2011 9:46:40 PM] sandroba: since teams are of 1 right now [10/21/2011 9:46:43 PM] wherebugsgo: right [10/21/2011 9:46:48 PM] wherebugsgo: we have to be working independently [10/21/2011 9:46:56 PM] wherebugsgo: and wtf why would a scum confirm another scum? [10/21/2011 9:47:11 PM] sandroba: then when hiros flip town [10/21/2011 9:47:18 PM] sandroba: there is nothing they can do about it [10/21/2011 9:47:23 PM] sandroba: we have 3 kp [10/21/2011 9:47:55 PM] sandroba: and since we have to kill 3 town [10/21/2011 9:48:00 PM] sandroba: the next day [10/21/2011 9:48:09 PM] sandroba: we can't even backstab each other [10/21/2011 9:48:13 PM] wherebugsgo: yup lolol [10/21/2011 9:48:13 PM] sandroba: even if we want to [10/21/2011 9:48:31 PM] sandroba: so we lynch whoever is left the next day and gg [10/21/2011 9:48:57 PM] sandroba: that leaves us both alive and host has to decide [10/21/2011 9:49:08 PM] sandroba: and only joint victory makes sense [10/21/2011 9:52:57 PM] wherebugsgo: yep [10/21/2011 9:53:05 PM] wherebugsgo: can you tell prpl to hit Radfield? [10/21/2011 9:53:07 PM] wherebugsgo: as well [10/21/2011 9:53:09 PM] wherebugsgo: I PMed him [10/21/2011 9:53:18 PM] wherebugsgo: but IMO if we both tell him then that's the only chance he'll do it [10/21/2011 9:53:28 PM] sandroba: sure [10/21/2011 9:53:35 PM] sandroba: I'll pm him right now [10/21/2011 9:53:54 PM] sandroba: if he fucks us over we go down toghether [10/21/2011 9:53:57 PM] wherebugsgo: indeed [10/21/2011 9:54:12 PM] wherebugsgo: if he shoots someone he's not supposed to [10/21/2011 9:54:15 PM] wherebugsgo: I'll be so mad [10/21/2011 9:58:30 PM] sandroba: all bgs are dead. we need to coordinate kills, since town has too many confirmed people. I'm in contact with wbg who is tudor and I'm york myself. We need you to shoot radfield so he doesn't get any more checks in. tomorrow the sky will shine red from mafia supremacy and 4 important townies will be killed. All hail to the unified mafia empire! [10/21/2011 9:58:51 PM] sandroba: roffl [10/21/2011 9:59:12 PM] wherebugsgo: LOL [10/21/2011 9:59:41 PM] sandroba: so inspiring =P [10/21/2011 9:59:44 PM] sandroba: hahaha [10/21/2011 9:59:54 PM] wherebugsgo: lololol [10/21/2011 10:00:12 PM] sandroba: man [10/21/2011 10:00:19 PM] sandroba: if prp is somehow town [10/21/2011 10:00:27 PM] sandroba: and kenp is the last lanc [10/21/2011 10:00:31 PM] wherebugsgo: ugh [10/21/2011 10:00:32 PM] sandroba: we are fucked [10/21/2011 10:00:34 PM] wherebugsgo: indeed [10/21/2011 10:00:39 PM] sandroba: lets hope for the best [10/21/2011 10:00:48 PM] sandroba: I'm pretty confident about this though [10/21/2011 10:01:10 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah same [10/21/2011 10:01:29 PM] sandroba: well [10/21/2011 10:01:37 PM] sandroba: I just saw prp's draft pos [10/21/2011 10:01:42 PM] sandroba: he is 16 [10/21/2011 10:01:59 PM] sandroba: fucking balsy to claim vanilla to have picked df at 16 [10/21/2011 10:02:05 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah indeed [10/21/2011 10:02:07 PM] wherebugsgo: he got SO lucky [10/21/2011 10:02:29 PM] sandroba: shit man [10/21/2011 10:02:37 PM] sandroba: I hope he is mafia [10/21/2011 10:02:38 PM] wherebugsgo: he might just be something else [10/21/2011 10:02:39 PM] sandroba: fuck [10/21/2011 10:02:40 PM] wherebugsgo: like [10/21/2011 10:02:45 PM] wherebugsgo: not even vanilla [10/21/2011 10:02:51 PM] sandroba: maybe rolecop [10/21/2011 10:02:58 PM] sandroba: who checked df? [10/21/2011 10:03:01 PM] wherebugsgo: no one [10/21/2011 10:03:03 PM] sandroba: did he claim day? [10/21/2011 10:03:13 PM] wherebugsgo: ? [10/21/2011 10:03:15 PM] sandroba: day1* [10/21/2011 10:03:17 PM] wherebugsgo: I don't think hiro was ever checked [10/21/2011 10:03:23 PM] wherebugsgo: he claimed to Mig/Radfield probably [10/21/2011 10:03:25 PM] wherebugsgo: so they knew [10/21/2011 10:03:30 PM] wherebugsgo: prpl was below so couldn't be df [10/21/2011 10:03:31 PM] sandroba: day1? [10/21/2011 10:03:34 PM] wherebugsgo: I think so [10/21/2011 10:03:39 PM] sandroba: ugh [10/21/2011 10:03:40 PM] wherebugsgo: bc chaoser got shot [10/21/2011 10:03:41 PM] wherebugsgo: day 1 [10/21/2011 10:03:43 PM] wherebugsgo: err night 1 [10/21/2011 10:03:54 PM] wherebugsgo: right? and only town KP has been DF [10/21/2011 10:04:06 PM] sandroba: k let me look at the numbers [10/21/2011 10:07:05 PM] sandroba: well draft numbers make sense if it's him [10/21/2011 10:07:20 PM] sandroba: well what's done is done let's hope for the best [10/21/2011 10:07:26 PM] wherebugsgo: indeed [10/21/2011 10:07:30 PM] wherebugsgo: just gotta wait now lol [10/21/2011 10:07:45 PM] sandroba: I told sinani to claim mafia in the thread [10/21/2011 10:07:50 PM] sandroba: but ofc [10/21/2011 10:07:55 PM] sandroba: he never apeared [10/21/2011 10:07:57 PM] wherebugsgo: lol [10/21/2011 10:07:59 PM] wherebugsgo: so useless [10/21/2011 10:08:02 PM] sandroba: never showed up [10/21/2011 10:08:07 PM] wherebugsgo: super [10/21/2011 10:08:10 PM] wherebugsgo: was pretty useless too [10/21/2011 10:08:14 PM] wherebugsgo: fucking claims hider [10/21/2011 10:08:23 PM] sandroba: Sandroba 10-21-2011 06:57 PM ET (US) Edit Delete sinani if you read this claim mafia in thread and ask for qts in pms as proof of being mafia. [10/21/2011 10:08:42 PM] sandroba: never answered =/ [10/21/2011 10:08:46 PM] wherebugsgo: rofl [10/21/2011 10:09:14 PM] sandroba: man why couldn't you be on my team [10/21/2011 10:09:16 PM] sandroba: lol [10/21/2011 10:09:26 PM] sandroba: instead of sinani/node [10/21/2011 10:09:30 PM] wherebugsgo: I think the same [10/21/2011 10:09:33 PM] wherebugsgo: super -_- [10/21/2011 10:09:36 PM] wherebugsgo: decon scummy day 1 [10/21/2011 10:09:56 PM] wherebugsgo: meapak picks BG and deals with Jimbo (a townie!!) for inventor [10/21/2011 10:09:58 PM] sandroba: sorry for outing meapak [10/21/2011 10:10:00 PM] wherebugsgo: *RS [10/21/2011 10:10:03 PM] wherebugsgo: nah it's fine [10/21/2011 10:10:06 PM] wherebugsgo: he's just a total dumbass [10/21/2011 10:10:10 PM] wherebugsgo: he picked RS instead of NRA [10/21/2011 10:10:10 PM] sandroba: rad was going to check sinani [10/21/2011 10:10:22 PM] sandroba: so I had to point him somewhere else [10/21/2011 10:10:23 PM] wherebugsgo: such a moron [10/21/2011 10:10:38 PM] wherebugsgo: RS instead of NRA, gives inventor to Jimbo who is townie kav [10/21/2011 10:10:40 PM] wherebugsgo: like wtf [10/21/2011 10:10:43 PM] wherebugsgo: if I wasn't in that circle [10/21/2011 10:10:46 PM] sandroba: rofl [10/21/2011 10:10:47 PM] wherebugsgo: of jimbo/foolish [10/21/2011 10:10:50 PM] wherebugsgo: we would've been fucked [10/21/2011 10:10:50 PM] sandroba: jimbo so dumb [10/21/2011 10:10:55 PM] sandroba: he basically told me [10/21/2011 10:11:01 PM] sandroba: he would take inventor [10/21/2011 10:11:04 PM] sandroba: before day1 [10/21/2011 10:11:07 PM] wherebugsgo: lolll [10/21/2011 10:11:09 PM] wherebugsgo: wow [10/21/2011 10:11:26 PM] sandroba: so I had to push him and meapak as a team [10/21/2011 10:11:43 PM] sandroba: when meapak told me [10/21/2011 10:11:50 PM] sandroba: he gave the role to someone else [10/21/2011 10:11:56 PM] sandroba: I conected the dots [10/21/2011 10:12:17 PM] sandroba: of how jimbo was saying shit about inventor when he was pick 3 [10/21/2011 10:12:24 PM] wherebugsgo: rofl [10/21/2011 10:13:01 PM] sandroba: syllo really fucked me though [10/21/2011 10:13:09 PM] sandroba: I couldn't keep my townie act [10/21/2011 10:13:13 PM] wherebugsgo: hmm [10/21/2011 10:13:17 PM] sandroba: without supporting those guys [10/21/2011 10:13:18 PM] wherebugsgo: lol that shit day 1 [10/21/2011 10:13:19 PM] wherebugsgo: I was like [10/21/2011 10:13:20 PM] wherebugsgo: fuck you guys [10/21/2011 10:13:23 PM] wherebugsgo: if you're both town [10/21/2011 10:13:27 PM] sandroba: rofl [10/21/2011 10:13:31 PM] wherebugsgo: so I stayed the hell away from you and syllo [10/21/2011 10:13:33 PM] sandroba: weell [10/21/2011 10:13:33 PM] wherebugsgo: as long as possible [10/21/2011 10:13:37 PM] sandroba: If I was town [10/21/2011 10:13:44 PM] sandroba: I would believe it either way [10/21/2011 10:13:48 PM] wherebugsgo: yeah [10/21/2011 10:13:48 PM] wherebugsgo: lol [10/21/2011 10:13:50 PM] sandroba: and he knew it [10/21/2011 10:13:54 PM] sandroba: so I had to =/ [10/21/2011 10:14:34 PM] sandroba: and I was in such a good pos to run for mayor beforehand [10/21/2011 10:14:36 PM] sandroba: sigh [10/21/2011 10:16:32 PM] sandroba: I'll tell the hosts to update the bg thing [10/21/2011 10:16:53 PM] sandroba: because otherwise mafia has to work toghether to know both bgs are dead [10/21/2011 10:17:08 PM] wherebugsgo: ok [10/21/2011 10:17:09 PM] wherebugsgo: PM [10/21/2011 10:17:14 PM] sandroba: just did [10/21/2011 10:17:25 PM] wherebugsgo: I wonder if they'll change it [10/21/2011 10:17:30 PM] wherebugsgo: I actually hope not [10/21/2011 10:17:37 PM] wherebugsgo: bc then town will think [10/21/2011 10:17:39 PM] wherebugsgo: that they are safe [10/21/2011 10:17:43 PM] sandroba: that will fuck us [10/21/2011 10:17:48 PM] sandroba: if town is smart though [10/21/2011 10:18:02 PM] wherebugsgo: wait no [10/21/2011 10:18:04 PM] wherebugsgo: don't tell them [10/21/2011 10:18:06 PM] wherebugsgo: oh wait [10/21/2011 10:18:08 PM] wherebugsgo: you sent [10/21/2011 10:18:09 PM] wherebugsgo: hmm [10/21/2011 10:18:14 PM] wherebugsgo: I think it might be worse if town knows [10/21/2011 10:18:17 PM] wherebugsgo: all BGs dead [10/21/2011 10:18:28 PM] sandroba: well [10/21/2011 10:18:32 PM] wherebugsgo: before it happens [10/21/2011 10:18:44 PM] sandroba: we can't explain kills [10/21/2011 10:18:56 PM] sandroba: if mafia is acting independently otherwise [10/21/2011 10:19:03 PM] wherebugsgo: right [10/21/2011 10:19:21 PM] sandroba: I hope they do it late [10/21/2011 10:19:26 PM] sandroba: and don't announce [10/21/2011 10:19:27 PM] wherebugsgo: same lol [10/21/2011 10:19:37 PM] wherebugsgo: they're hopefully all sleeping [10/21/2011 10:19:38 PM] sandroba: they just change that shit [10/21/2011 10:19:52 PM] sandroba: tomorrow I have a bbq [10/21/2011 10:19:58 PM] sandroba: won't be able to do shit [10/21/2011 10:20:04 PM] wherebugsgo: damn [10/21/2011 10:20:05 PM] wherebugsgo: k [10/21/2011 10:20:09 PM] wherebugsgo: I'll be here probably [10/21/2011 10:20:25 PM] sandroba: I'll get here before the daypost [10/21/2011 10:21:23 PM] wherebugsgo: ok good [12:40:20 AM] sandroba: hey [12:40:34 AM] sandroba: gj job on fooling me [12:40:36 AM] sandroba: =P [12:40:38 AM] wherebugsgo: ? [12:40:51 AM] sandroba: well ss was not bodyguard [12:40:58 AM] wherebugsgo: yeah he was [12:41:30 AM] sandroba: then you better talk to protactinum =/ [12:41:34 AM] wherebugsgo: hold on [12:41:43 AM] wherebugsgo: wtf [12:41:46 AM] wherebugsgo: why is sinani [12:41:47 AM] wherebugsgo: listed as BG [12:41:50 AM] wherebugsgo: WTF? [12:42:09 AM] wherebugsgo: yeah I'll PM him [12:45:08 AM] wherebugsgo: ok I've sent ver a PM [12:45:34 AM] wherebugsgo: did prpl reply to you? [12:45:36 AM] wherebugsgo: cause he never replied to me [12:46:14 AM] wherebugsgo: it doesn't make sense [12:46:19 AM] wherebugsgo: why sinani is listed as BG but not super [12:46:23 AM] wherebugsgo: :/ [12:46:26 AM] wherebugsgo: and it should be 0 [12:46:27 AM] wherebugsgo: fuck wtf [12:46:49 AM] wherebugsgo: it's like the chezinu shit all over again [12:46:54 AM] sandroba: =( [12:46:58 AM] sandroba: man [12:47:08 AM] sandroba: are you sure ss got subbed in? [12:47:10 AM] wherebugsgo: yes [12:47:23 AM] wherebugsgo: I didn't send it in but meapak did [12:47:25 AM] sandroba: then this must be an overlook by the host [12:47:29 AM] wherebugsgo: agreed [12:47:32 AM] wherebugsgo: I PMed ver [12:47:40 AM] sandroba: pm protactinum [12:47:44 AM] wherebugsgo: yep [12:47:48 AM] wherebugsgo: also PMed incog [12:47:58 AM] sandroba: are you sure meapak sent it? [12:48:03 AM] wherebugsgo: yes [12:48:19 AM] wherebugsgo: he told us all he sent it in our IRC [12:48:32 AM] sandroba: From: Protactinium [ 349 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: Bodyguards Date: 10/22/11 14:23 Mig is still protected by bodyguards, so that shot would be invalid. Original Message From sandroba: Change of plans. Shoot Mig. Show nested quote + [12:48:53 AM] sandroba: TT [12:49:09 AM] wherebugsgo: wtf? [12:49:29 AM] sandroba: well we have to wait and see [12:49:47 AM] sandroba: and we have to ask meapak [12:49:59 AM] sandroba: if he has a copy of the pm he sent incog [12:50:25 AM] wherebugsgo: yeah I will [12:51:53 AM] wherebugsgo: ok so [12:51:56 AM] wherebugsgo: if Ver responds to me [12:52:04 AM] wherebugsgo: and tells me that the BG has not been switched [12:52:15 AM] wherebugsgo: then I will switch my hit to Erandor [12:52:21 AM] wherebugsgo: who is probably the last BG [12:54:37 AM] sandroba: yeah [12:54:43 AM] sandroba: we are fucked anyway [12:54:49 AM] sandroba: you better hit me if they tell you to [12:54:59 AM] sandroba: only chance you have [12:55:01 AM] wherebugsgo: wait [12:55:05 AM] wherebugsgo: you mean if they tell me to kill you? [12:55:07 AM] wherebugsgo: like mig [12:55:37 AM] wherebugsgo: fuck man [12:55:42 AM] sandroba: well if we can't kill them tonight [12:55:42 AM] sandroba: how are you going to explain [12:55:43 AM] sandroba: me not being dead [12:55:43 AM] wherebugsgo: if I kill you then how the hell do I survive [12:55:49 AM] wherebugsgo: they're going to DT check me [12:55:51 AM] wherebugsgo: fuck [12:55:54 AM] wherebugsgo: this plan hinges [12:55:57 AM] wherebugsgo: on all the fucking DTs dying [12:56:01 AM] sandroba: yeah [12:56:13 AM] sandroba: but we cant kill them unless bgs are dead [12:56:17 AM] sandroba: unfortunately [12:56:17 AM] wherebugsgo: omfg [12:56:19 AM] wherebugsgo: fuck meapak [12:56:19 AM] wherebugsgo: fuck ver [12:56:21 AM] wherebugsgo: -_- [12:56:25 AM] sandroba: rofl [12:56:38 AM] sandroba: let's wait for the response first [12:56:42 AM] sandroba: then worry about it [12:56:45 AM] wherebugsgo: he's probably asleep [12:56:51 AM] wherebugsgo: it's like 4 am ET [12:56:56 AM] sandroba: yeah [12:57:01 AM] sandroba: it's 6 am here [12:57:36 AM] wherebugsgo: mmm [12:57:41 AM] wherebugsgo: alright I'm gonna go to sleep [12:57:53 AM] wherebugsgo: I'll be back in the morning and hopefully we'll be good by then [12:58:02 AM] sandroba: I'll check up on this tomorrow [12:58:05 AM] wherebugsgo: ok sounds good [12:58:10 AM] wherebugsgo: before daypost? [12:58:11 AM] sandroba: b4 leaving for the party [12:58:17 AM] sandroba: yeah [12:58:20 AM] wherebugsgo: ok sounds good [12:58:32 AM] sandroba: I'm off to bed man [12:58:37 AM] wherebugsgo: the only vanilla left that can be Mig's BG is Erandor [12:58:48 AM] wherebugsgo: so if one of us shoots him we can still potentially do this [12:58:53 AM] sandroba: I had errandor as bg before [12:58:56 AM] sandroba: so yeah [12:59:00 AM] wherebugsgo: yep [12:59:07 AM] wherebugsgo: alright [12:59:08 AM] sandroba: gnight man [12:59:09 AM] wherebugsgo: gn [2:33:57 PM] wherebugsgo: sandro [2:34:01 PM] wherebugsgo: prpl might not be lancaster [2:34:06 PM] wherebugsgo: he sold us out to Mig [8:55:22 PM] sandroba: yo [8:57:28 PM] wherebugsgo: yo [8:57:41 PM] sandroba: you town [8:57:44 PM] wherebugsgo: rofl [8:57:44 PM] wherebugsgo: yep [8:57:48 PM] sandroba: that pic was really good [8:57:51 PM] wherebugsgo: did you shoot me? [8:57:55 PM] sandroba: nope [8:57:57 PM] wherebugsgo: hmmm [8:58:00 PM] wherebugsgo: prpl probably then [8:58:00 PM] wherebugsgo: shot me [8:58:06 PM] wherebugsgo: I almost claimed tudor to him too [8:58:28 PM] sandroba: where did you get that? [8:59:01 PM] wherebugsgo: I faked it [8:59:04 PM] wherebugsgo: took chezinu QT [8:59:10 PM] wherebugsgo: and replaced Chezinu House [8:59:12 PM] wherebugsgo: with Tudor Family [8:59:14 PM] wherebugsgo: or w/e Hilarious log. Radfield convinces sandro he's town in LoTR, I convince sandro I'm scum in this game. Kudos to Jimbo on the lancaster infiltration (I LOLed at that one in RL for a good five minutes) And again sorry foolish for shooting you lol. Mig and Radfield were convinced (thanks to fuckin sandro) that you were scum. I knew something was wrong and it was probably because I had very little sandro influence. However, if I really had no better targets that night; I could've shot sandro I guess, but Radfield and Mig were strongly urging against that because (particularly Radfield) they thought he was town. Radfield was rather upset because someone in his trust circle was scum by the time we were at 9v5. Chezinu QT http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/gEcqQt3NWPvf I fakeclaimed Tudor to both Wiggles and Sandro. I told wiggles not to shoot scamp (so I think it worked? lol) We couldn't for the life of us figure out who wiggles was protting. Chaoser and cheese both died and we were like who is more important than them to have not been protted? So we thought prpl was that last lancaster but turns out he was actually a tudor. Thank god I didn't actually claim tudor to him. (thought about york though) gg all lololol | ||
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Chezinu QT is full of Chezinu House infiltrating scum/snooping around. Sympathetic=Jimbo TSM=me (hahahaha wiggles) QQ and whatever other names in there=Foolish post I provided above gives me fake claiming tudor to sandro, sent him the same image of my QT I sent to wiggles the night before PM I sent to Wiggles: sorry, I've been at class, but here's what you asked for: ![[image loading]](http://i53.tinypic.com/2qrzhow.jpg) in addition, here's a convo I had with decon ysterday: [16:30] <decon> sup [16:30] <wherebugsgo> yo [16:31] <decon> so what do you want to do? [16:31] <decon> too many mafia dead too early [16:31] <wherebugsgo> yeah I know [16:31] <wherebugsgo> hence I want to think of some way to coordinate [16:31] <wherebugsgo> without giving anything away [16:32] <decon> do you know anyone on the other teams? [16:33] <wherebugsgo> no I do not [16:33] <wherebugsgo> yesterday was incredibly hectic [16:33] <decon> YEAH [16:33] <wherebugsgo> I knew chaoser was getting shot at night [16:33] <decon> caps sry [16:33] <decon> who shot him? [16:33] <wherebugsgo> whoever has the dreamflower role [16:34] <wherebugsgo> I have no idea who has it, but I know Radfield ordered it [16:34] <decon> it might be prpl [16:34] <wherebugsgo> didn't prp claim vanilla though as soon as the roles were out or something? [16:34] <decon> he claimed to have gone for it and got vanilla [16:34] <decon> but I think it could be a bluff [16:34] <decon> there's something off about him anyway [16:34] <wherebugsgo> hmmm [16:34] <wherebugsgo> my thoughts were that he was a bodyguard [16:35] <decon> hmm [16:35] <decon> maybe [16:35] <wherebugsgo> for mayor [16:35] <decon> he might be town then [16:36] <wherebugsgo> I tlaked with meapak yesterday [16:36] <wherebugsgo> couldn't figure it out though [16:37] <wherebugsgo> apparently a lot of people already know that meapak is RS [16:37] <decon> hmm [16:37] <wherebugsgo> by a lot of people I mean the Radfield group [16:38] <decon> so do they know Jimbo is inventor? [16:38] <wherebugsgo> or at least that's who I assume [16:38] <wherebugsgo> yes I think [16:38] <decon> he's massively scummy [16:38] <decon> [16:38] <wherebugsgo> Radfield says that he knows who has it, and is sure that person is town [16:38] <wherebugsgo> he also knows why they refused to invent anything last night [16:38] <decon> I'd be in such a good position if fcking kenpachi hadn't decided to check me [16:38] <decon> why me ffs [16:39] <wherebugsgo> I have no idea [16:39] <wherebugsgo> it's Kenpachi [16:39] <wherebugsgo> anything he does is lol [16:39] <decon> ye [16:39] <decon> meh [16:39] <decon> at least we can get somethign done today before I die [16:39] <decon> ok [16:39] <wherebugsgo> yes [16:39] <decon> I think you aren't getting hit tonight [16:40] <decon> so give 3 suggested targets [16:40] <decon> and I suppose we can work around that [16:42] <wherebugsgo> hit one of syllogism sandroba prphlz [16:42] <decon> kk [16:42] <wherebugsgo> roleblock jimbo I'm thinking [16:42] <wherebugsgo> btw I'm cooking food so I may disappear for a few minutes at a time randomly [16:42] <decon> np [16:43] <wherebugsgo> do we have someone that has close ties with the Radfield group? [16:43] <decon> idk [16:43] <decon> why? [16:44] <wherebugsgo> well I have no idea what's going on with them [16:44] <wherebugsgo> most of them flat out refuse to talk to me [16:44] <decon> ye same here [16:44] <decon> [16:44] <decon> I have a feeling [16:44] <decon> that entire group is town [16:44] <decon> blah [16:44] <wherebugsgo> ugh seriously? [16:44] <decon> ye [16:44] <decon> maybe a york then [16:45] <decon> but mig radfield sandro syllo [16:46] <decon> ye but anyway you're so scummy [16:46] <wherebugsgo> yeah I know [16:46] <wherebugsgo> my luck has been bad this game [16:46] <decon> I'd say [16:46] <decon> trying to get I dunno [16:46] <wherebugsgo> like how I'm vanilla -_- [16:46] <decon> prpl or greymist lynched [16:47] <decon> would be a good plan [16:47] <decon> ... [16:47] <wherebugsgo> prpl I don't think would fly [16:47] <wherebugsgo> cause of the DF thing [16:48] <decon> so what about greymist? [16:48] <wherebugsgo> yeah I think that could work but I wouldn't be able to push that [16:49] <decon> ye I agree but him going for mayor [16:49] <wherebugsgo> yeah I know [16:49] <wherebugsgo> it's just that I called him town and I was the strongest push for him to be mayor...would make me look bad [16:49] <wherebugsgo> but idk [16:54] <decon> right I've got to go [16:54] <decon> if you need anything useful [16:54] <decon> or if I can do anything for you [16:54] <decon> send me a pm [16:55] <decon> I'll pop back on irc sometime tomorrow as well [16:55] <decon> gnight [17:01] <wherebugsgo> night [17:01] == No such nick: decon We're hitting sandroba tonight. We assume he has some sort of DT/KP role and is acting scummy so he's not getting shot. I was in contact with chaoser yesterday but I'm rather glad he died because he was a huge liability and massively scummy. We would like you to hit Jimbo if possible. He's the inventor and I have reason to believe he's inventing something very pro-town tonight (probably a list check) and I also believe he's town. I've been manipulating him through PMs for a while but he's just too much of a liability now. If this isn't possible let me know. It'd also be great if we could discuss on IRC. I can provide you IP, channel, and password details and whatnot so we are ensured a private conversation. Original Message From Mr. Wiggles: Hi, This sounds interesting, but I'll need more proof that you're scum than your house. Link me a screenshot of your quicktopic with the time-stamps visible and relevant or sensitive information blacked out. This will prove to me that you're scum, and give me insurance that you're not as likely to want to screw me over later in the game. Arctocod sent me a similar PM yesterday, but refused to provide proof, so I turned him in. Now he's exploded, because he was silly town. It ends up depending on your read on me, because as town or scum, I want proof that you're really scum. Anyways, assuming you are scum, who are you planning on hitting tonight? Have you already been in contact with another family? Hide nested quote - Original Message From wherebugsgo: Hey wiggles, I notice you haven't really done much this game. I notice this because I haven't really done much myself either. Indeed, I'm actually pretty obvious scum in the thread. However, so are you. As you can see and have probably already felt already, the mafia families are hurting. We're all each down to 2 members each. Thus, I think it's necessary that we work together to whittle down the town a little bit so that we don't have a hard road ahead of us. I realize we all have our own wincons, but we can be mutually helpful for at least this night phase. We need to coordinate. I am a Tudor. I will reveal more information to you if and when I know I have your cooperation. Some of this may be confusing, and that's okay. I will do my very best to reply to you promptly with answers for any questions you might have. I look forward to working together. | ||
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On October 23 2011 13:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Well that was a very interesting game, thank you host. Wiggles healed ken night 1 we had a plan to essentially (ab)use puppeteer all game, it was shaping up to be really awesome The irc thing catching both me and chaoser because i didnt check IP's >_> Could have just used a second irc account, not claimed and basically been a puppeteer IMO people should be forced to truthfully reveal who they are in PM games rofl nahhh that IRC fake was one of the funniest things ever scum's fault for not IP checking IMO. Or, use skype. Real easy fix. EDIT: Also Jimbo deserves a LOT of credit for that. He had balls of steel. He felt bad about how people were reacting too, so he backed off once it got into the thread. But seriously, that catch was insane good. Sad some scum shot him n2  (and sorry again foolish rofl) | ||
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I can point out at least half of the scum players who did literally nothing to save their own asses. They were so scummy it would've been a miracle if they didn't die. Good examples of those players are: you, decon, meapak, node, supersoft, wiggles prpl got incredibly lucky on a DF claim, if he had gotten unlucky he would've died. If he hadn't been so lucky he'd be in that list. I didn't include sinani in that list cause he's always incredibly useless Kenpachi sold out another scum but he didn't do much of anything else either (working against time there) Cheese getting found out was almost entirely due to Jimbo's fake, but I'm not so sure he would've looked very good by n2 anyway finally we have sandro and kita, who both played pretty well. Kita I thought was town n1 and then I loled when scum accidentally shot him. Really unknown how he would've done since he died so early, but I would probably not have suspected him for a while if he kept that up. Sandro did well to fool Radfield/syllo but honestly toward endgame it was apparent he was scum. So when 10 out of 12 scum did almost nothing to appear town how is that a fault of the game's mechanics? You guys could've taken advantage of players like Erandor, Palmar, Jackal, myself, and Foolish, but you all chose to be complacent and you got raped from every side by the massive amounts of town KP and detection. EDIT: Also some of the scum role selections were really strange. Meapak choosing rockstar instead of NRA (if he's not going to go for inventor) really boggled the crap out of me. How on earth is RS better than NRA? He died day 2 anyway, so it certainly didn't do any good for him. | ||
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On October 23 2011 13:44 chaoser wrote: How was I complacent? I was under intense pressure for not being active enough, due to something that came out of left field for me, and still managed to get off from the day one lynch. Jimbo's faking Cyber was what put the final nail in my coffin. Even when you and Foolishness were trying to get me to join your fake little family I knew shit was up cause of your horrible excuses. "We can't change the kill order, I don't know Foolishness, he's not part of my family, etc. etc." I ended up "outting" you to radfield and tried to play it off as me trying to dictate your kills so I could protect it as medic. At that point though the Jimbo thing already happened so tough luck there I guess. Where in that was I complacent? you really did nothing to appear town lol. Foolish, myself, and Jimbo had just started getting into the scum business that day, plus I was trying to keep myself alive. That's probably why I seemed scummy (it was almost intentional) You were complacent for a while, then when the pressure built up you freaked out and leaked scumtells everywhere. Your defense was really bad. The guilt trips were giving us uncertainty but we figured you were the best DF shot anyway. Once Jimbo faked as you and confirmed cheese was your buddy I shot cheese and you both were dead before you could do anything. IMO any time someone uses RL excuses as to why they are scummy, I get very suspicious. They might be true, but honestly that's not what this game is about. | ||
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On October 23 2011 13:46 chaoser wrote: Don't try to sugar coat over the fact that people DID breadcrumb PMs when mafia weren't given the townie PMs unless you asked and that bullshit things like "I'm 100% town card only in this game though!" were played among players that had played very closely with each other, making it almost impossible to say no to it. Take that up with syllo. AFAIK he's the only one who did it, and if you don't remember, I was certainly really pissed about it. Syllo called me unhelpful day 0 because I called out the shit logic sandroba was using to vote Mig. It was really annoying for me that day because I disagreed with the method syllo used to confirm himself as town to sandroba. AFAIK that's the only possibly questionable thing that happened. I don't know where you're getting this breadcrumbing of PMs business from. | ||
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On October 23 2011 13:55 chaoser wrote: Your case against me was literally "Chaoser is not active enough, chaoser isn't being very strong in pushing his stances, he made a bad case against Dropbear, he contradicted himself with the supporting radfield/not supporting radfield" which is 100% NOT my scum play at all and 100% my I'm busy play. If you're going to lynch me off that then I might as well never play mafia during the school year as I WILL be busy at times. How the fuck do I defend against that besides pointing out the shitty logic there? I even ended up hunting out three scum that everyone in the town circle at the time didn't even suspect. Prp, Sandroba, dec The fact that you pushed dropbear as the lynch target threw off so many alarm bells to me. The number 1 scum day 0 was decon. Radfield and I discussed why his meta made him scum (he blindly accepted the plans, whereas in a previous PYP game as town he boldly just said fuck the plan I'm doing what I want) and also how his first 2 posts in the game established him as scum pretty much. I actually wanted the mayoral candidate to lynch him day 0. Then, you came along and made a "case" on dropbear which screamed scum to me (and Mig, IIRC; we talked about it). This began with Dropbear's scum proposal. I hinted, "Did DB just straight up scumclaim?" to see if I could get any scum to take the bait and open fire, figuratively speaking, on DB. I had a strong town read on DB, though his role pick was dumb. So, I PMed him for confirmation, establishing him as town and making a plan with him to kill scum. When you came in and made the case on him, since I already thought you were scummy, you elevated yourself even further. Then, when I pressured you, you started going nuts. The constant barrage of emotional appeals was almost too much to handle lol (me and Mig felt really bad) My logic wasn't shitty; it was completely based on your meta (you don't push bad townies for lynch when you are a townie) the fact that you were touting your scumhunting skills when you were letting players like prpl and decon just slide by, the fact that you were a terrible mayoral candidate, the fact that you contradicted yourself on Radfield, and the fact that you acted incredibly weird when I pointed out your contradiction on Radfield. Those were the main things. prpl acted really weird day 0 to my pressure as well. If it wasn't for Jimbo finding out about cheese and Mig telling me prpl tried for DF, prpl was going to be my hit night 1. Instead when Jimbo infiltrated you guys I shot cheese instead. EDIT: I'm dumb | ||
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This game revolves around what other people think of you. Regardless, you might think my logic was bad but you haven't actually pointed out why it was. I thought you were scum based on a couple of behavioral contradictions, your tendency to appeal to emotions, and the dissonance with respect to your meta. All that matters is that most other people thought you were scum. Really nothing to say here except IMO mafia played badly. | ||
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On October 23 2011 14:14 Ace wrote: appeal to emotion isn't a scum tell though. I think it can be. Every scum who was about to get lynched this game did it. super, meapak, chaoser. Prpl did it in PMs when it was apparent he was going to get shot. EDIT: I should clarify that IMO it can be a good tell with respect to other tells. I don't think there's any one thing scum do all the time or town do all the time, and to think like that would be dumb. | ||
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On October 23 2011 14:21 Ace wrote: Scum do it. Townies do it to. It's not easy to tell which side does it more than the other. Just that anyone trying to convince you of something is going to use it, even unintentionally some of the time. I guess if used in conjunction with other tells it works. I've never used it as a basis for picking whether someone is Scum/Town since new players are especially prone to making outrageous emotionally charged posts. Yeah this is one thing I keep in mind. When a player like chaoser or super does it, it gives me weird feelings because they are more experienced and I don't expect that from them. prpl did it day0 but I was left uncertain because prpl always is, to some degree, scummy, regardless of alignment. He is, also, more inexperienced than chaoser and other players in this game who did similar things (or at least I think he is) I used emotional appeal in conjunction with two other big things to pin chaoser: his badly constructed case on a townie, Dropbear, and his self contradiction with respect to whom he would vote for on day 0 for mayor (he said he would vote for sandro or radfield but then later switched to Mig instead of voting Radfield. When he got pissed at Mig he randomly switched back to Radfield) | ||
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On October 23 2011 14:38 Protactinium wrote: Role List: + Show Spoiler + 1. Meapak_Ziphh (Tudor) [6][12] --> Rock Star 2. Kenpachi (Lancaster) [7][3] --> NKVD Agent 3. JimboSilvers [8][8] --> Inventor 4. deconduo (Tudor) [10][5] --> Bulletproof 5. Mig [13][3] --> Detective 6. Cyber_Cheese (Lancaster) [14][4] --> Godfather 7. wherebugsgo [16][20] --> CPR Doctor 8. Scamp [20][20] --> Copycat 9. Sandroba (York) [11][1] --> Godfather--> Vanilla Bodyguard for Meapak_Ziphh 10. syllogism [11][1] --> NKVD Agent --> Vanilla 11. Radfield [15][1] --> Bullet Bill 12. hiro protagonist [15][2] --> Dreamflower 13. Mr. Wiggles (Lancaster) [17][1] --> Medic 14. DropBear [17][3] --> Bomber Man 15. bumatlarge [2][16] --> Bullet Bill --> Vanilla Bodyguard for Radfield 16. prplhz (Tudor) [2][1] --> Bomber Man --> Vanilla 17. Node (York) [2][1] --> America 18. supersoft (Tudor) [4][3] --> Hider 19. chaoser (Lancaster) [4][5] --> Puppeteer 20. Arctocod [4][9] --> Ace 21. Jackal58 [9][13] --> Admiral Ackbar 22. GreYMisT [9][1] --> Dreamflower --> Vanilla Bodyguard for Meapak_Ziphh 23. kitaman27 (York) [9][1] --> Role Swapper 24. heist [1][17] --> Parity Cop 25. Foolishness [1][1] --> Puppeteer --> Vanilla 26. Erandorr [1][1] --> Dreamflower --> Vanilla 27. JACCUZISPLAT [1][1] --> America --> Vanilla Bodyguard for Radfield 28. sinani206 (York) No Numbers Submitted --> No Pick Submitted --> Vanilla Bodyguard for Radfield Actions List: + Show Spoiler + Day 1: GreYMisT and Sandroba (York) become Rock Star Bodyguards for Meapak_Ziphh Radfield is elected Mayor Mig is elected Pardoner Node is lynched Scamp the Copycat inherits the role of America The House of York decides to substitute sinani206 in as a Mayoral Bodyguard JACCUZISPLAT and bumatlarge become Mayoral Bodyguards Night 1 The House of Tudor elects to kill kitaman27 The House of Lancaster elects to kill bumatlarge The House of York elects to kill DropBear wherebugsgo shocks Cyber_Cheese hiro protagonist shoots chaoser Arctocod attempts to shoot heist but misfires Kenpachi elects to appear as Meth Man to checks and investigates deconduo, who is revealed to be from the House of Tudor Cyber_Cheese covers Mr. Wiggles as a Anarchist Medic Mr. Wiggles protects Kenpachi kitaman27 swaps roles with Kenpachi Mig checks Scamp and receives Innocent American Radfield checks Meapak_Ziphh and finds out that he is carrying a gun DropBear places a bomb on Cyber_Cheese with the code word "alliance" heist checks syllogism, receives no result kitaman27, Cyber_Cheese, chaoser, DropBear, and bumatlarge are killed. Kenpachi becomes Role Swapper Day 2 Scamp nukes deconduo Meapak_Ziphh is lynched Jackal58 suicides into Arctocod Night 2 The House of Tudor elects to kill syllogism The House of Lancaster elects to kill JimboSilvers The House of York elects to kill syllogism wherebugsgo shocks Foolishness hiro protagonist shoots Mr. Wiggles heist checks JACCUZISPLAT, receives the result "same" Mig checks heist and receives Innocent Parity Cop Radfield checks JimboSilvers and finds out that he is not carrying a gun Kenpachi swaps roles with JimboSilvers supersoft hides behind Erandorr JimboSilvers invents Bill Murray Mr. Wiggles, Foolishness, JimboSilvers, and syllogism are killed Kenpachi becomes Inventor Day 3 Scamp nukes supersoft sinani206 is lynched Night 3 The House of Tudor elects to kill Erandorr The House of Lancaster elects to kill wherebugsgo The House of York elects to kill Scamp wherebugsgo shocks prplhz hiro protagonist shoots sandroba heist checks wherebugsgo, receives the result "same" Mig checks Kenpachi and receives Guilty Inventor Radfield checks GreYMisT and finds out that he is not carrying a gun Kenpachi invents a Sticky Bomb prplhz, sandroba, Scamp, wherebugsgo, and Erandorr are killed. The Houses of Tudor and York are eliminated Day 4 Kenpachi surrenders, Town win! couple things wrong: prpl was scum (not green) on the action where I shock him Dropbear was also town not scum so when the house elected to shoot him his name should be red EDIT also when radfield checks jimbo, he should be green not red | ||
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why no vote rigger/showtime/kingmaker? Vote rigger could easily be used to save one of your members from a lynch, by instead lynching the mayor or pardoner. Then the double lynch would be real useful too seeing as most of the lynches were complete one sided bandwagons. Showtime could end day early and seriously fuck over town. Kingmaker would allow you to simply king your scumbuddies and lynch through people during the day, or king a townie and convince them some scummy townie was scum, and have them get lynched | ||
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On October 23 2011 18:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I would have been perfectly fine, I was the gf kthx Plans are so beautiful in theory DropBear places a bomb on Cyber_Cheese with the code word "alliance" I'm not sure if I would have walked into that. The synergy with puppeteer was good The fact that you were GF wouldn't have prevented you from being lynched or shot. You were on a short list of players at the time who needed investigation. Luckily Jimbo established the connection when he did. If I hadn't shot you I would've shot prpl, so either way a scum would've died to my shot that night. | ||
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I wanted to claim York to prpl and hope you hadn't told himyour house lol. I was going to change that picture I gave you. Also Kav these are the reasons I was okay with shooting Foolish: 1.) At the time there were six scum left. I knew supersoft couldn't be shot. Kenpachi we thought, for the time being, was town. Prpl we thought, for the time being, was town. (though I was suspicious as hell tbh) Wiggles was the DF shot. Jackal, who we thought was scum, had flipped town. Palmar also flipped town. Sinani was being ignored because he always sucks. That left sandroba/foolishness and to me, the dilemma was which normally pro-town player do I shoot? 2.) I am not as experienced as Mig/Radfield and so I was more inclined to believe their arguments for Foolish being scum than sandroba being scum. Yeah, I should've gone with my gut, but in my position, with the level of uncertainty that there was, I felt like shooting sandroba and having him flip town would instantly put me on the suspicion list. That would have been bad. (ofc he wouldn't have flipped town) 3.) foolish was genuinely doing some scummy things, even in conversations with me. Whenever we were talking about scumteams he would put in 4-5 players that I told him were (almost) confirmed town. He kept listing Erandor, hiro, ON, (and later heist) when I kept saying those players were almost certain to be town. Even after I had insisted it several times he continued to list them, which was weird because it seemed as if he just wasn't listening or was being purposely vague. as a result all of the things foolish did day 2, we already had known through other means. We received no new info through foolish and that was strange. What I just recently found out was that sandro was pushing Foolish and Jimbo to be Scum really hard to Radfield. Since I didn't trust sandro I didn't know where the suspicion was coming from, and so it makes it even funnier that ultimately the choice was between those two players and I chose the wrong one. Also kav, although I didn't think you were scum for a variety of reasons, the fact that you failed to submit an invention day 1 was pretty scummy. | ||
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EDIT: Not to mention only one player was caught by the IRC impersonation, it was in a public IRC channel, and there are multitudes of ways to prevent impersonation. You can do a PM check (something GM, Incog and I did in XLV) where you ask the person to confirm themselves by giving you all the capital letters in your last PM. That's an almost fool-safe way of preventing someone from misleading you. You can create secret channels if you want to talk to your scumbuddies. You can make your own channel and make it secret/password it by just looking up "how to put a password on an IRC channel" in google. First few hits, problem solved. Why is everyone crying about this when only one player was found through the impersonation? It is completely his own fault he got caught and was careless, and Jimbo's ingenuity should be praised. It was an excellent tactic to infiltrate the mafia who were mostly really complacent and weak this game. | ||
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It's a form of infiltration. Politics. That's what this game was about. Mafia could've impersonated town to try and get information. Mafia could've tried to get into town circles to try and sabotage them from the inside. Instead, you guys were complacent, your play was bland, and you all suffered for it. I'll put this here: On October 12 2011 11:47 Protactinium wrote: Roles are now out. You have ~24 hours (until 03:00 GMT (+00:00) tomorrow) to turn in your number picks. Announcement: OriginalName and redFF are sharing the account JACCUZISPLAT. As a word of warning: This is more than just a standard mafia game. It is a game of intrigue and politics. Plotting and scheming will go a long way to further your goals. Tell me, other than sandro, which scum even attempted to scheme or plan to sabotage town goals? Finally, chaoser was going to get shot well before the IRC debacle. To say that he was caught by the IRC impersonation is a misrepresentation, only cheese was caught that way. | ||
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On October 24 2011 07:41 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Public key crypto would turn a thread game into a PM game, a key being public doesn't mean everyone can crack it. Public key cryptography is basically what makes e-commerce possible, and why your credit card info hasn't been stolen a hundred times over. If you want some more details of how, just look up RSA on wikipedia. Even with far less advanced ciphers it would be easy to communicate privately in a public thread as long as everyone else has limited programming knowledge. Hell, if prplhz knows what he is doing since he mentioned it (and if I don't screw it up), we could demonstrate. Except you have to keep one key private, while the other is public, correct? I don't see how that furthers the goal of trying to get PMs in a non-PM game. | ||
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