Town bodyguards protect elected officials of all alignments. Substituted bodyguards only protect the officials of the same house. Bodyguards show up as both bodyguard and whatever other roles they mey have. Bodyguards are not immune to alignment checks.

yo incog can you explain the steps in determining that draft order?

I can't seem to work that out.

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Japan10217 Posts

September 30 2011 20:07 GMT

#54

dude GMarshal you already have like five smurfs playing in this game what the eff man leave some for the rest of us

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Japan10217 Posts

October 01 2011 05:55 GMT

#69

hey when are we playing that all smurf game?

On October 01 2011 07:01 Incognito wrote:

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Its in the OP in a spoiler

In other news, we need more signups in order to start.

Yes, I realize this, but it still doesn't make sense to me. I'll give you my logic step by step:

Player A - [4][19]
Player B - [7][12]
Player C - [1][6]
Player D - [7][8]
Player E - [1][8]
Player F - [1][20]

1. Players C, E, and F all chose [1] as their first number so they go to the bottom. The next highest is A with [4] and no conflicts so he's locked in as #1. B and C both chose [7] so they go to the end of the list after C E F.

2. a. Among the bottom there's two ways of considering them all. Just consider their second number, or consider the ones who chose [1] as their first number first and THEN consider those who chose [7.] In this branch I chose to use the former method. This would suggest C goes next, then B, then F, and then E and lastly D. I don't think this is how the system works, though, so let's ignore that ordering.

The other way is to say okay, consider all the guys who chose [1] in order of their second number. That would be C E F. Then the guys who chose [7], D before B.

A
C
E
F
D
B.

How do you get

A
D
B
C
E
F?

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Japan10217 Posts

October 01 2011 06:09 GMT

#71

ah, so 7 is prefered over 1 because it was only picked twice?

That makes a lot more sense now.

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Japan10217 Posts

October 09 2011 06:20 GMT

#154

On September 29 2011 01:58 JimboSilvers wrote:
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I see what you did there

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Japan10217 Posts

October 10 2011 00:29 GMT

#156

Wtf I saw this guy in general and totally thought it was incog

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Incognoto

also, we so close to getting enough people

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Japan10217 Posts

October 11 2011 13:53 GMT

#174

On October 11 2011 15:17 DropBear wrote:
did I say replacement? I meant
/in

Do you have to be a mafioso to pick mafia roles like framer and roleblocker?

Lol DB why would town want a framer?

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Japan10217 Posts

October 11 2011 14:07 GMT

#177

On October 11 2011 23:05 GMarshal wrote:

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To deny it to mafia. Denying mafia strong roles is a viable way to make your picks. Kenpachi did this in PYP:3, where he picked GF to keep it out of the hands of the mafia.

Same deal here, don't want a pesky assassin killing off town roles? Pick it. Don't want the roleblocker bothering townies? Take it. Want DTs to be more reliable? Pick framer.

Nice, thanks for the clarification. I completely overlooked this possibility.

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Japan10217 Posts

October 12 2011 17:18 GMT

#289

Can someone explain to me how Assassin is a good role?

In order to kill someone as the Assassin you need their role, alignment, and in the case of mafia, family.

How the hell does one determine a scum member's family?

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Japan10217 Posts

October 12 2011 21:39 GMT

#340

What exactly is the police radio?

I see the term being thrown around but I don't believe it was specified.

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Japan10217 Posts

October 12 2011 23:52 GMT

#363

Kitaman is scum he outed my identity in the IRC

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Japan10217 Posts

October 13 2011 03:09 GMT

#378

I posted [16][10] ftw

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Japan10217 Posts

October 13 2011 08:01 GMT

#415

lol it

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Japan10217 Posts

October 13 2011 18:02 GMT

#451

Wtf would be the point of that? There are no factions other than the town faction and the 3 scum factions, right?

The alignment setup isn't closed.

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Japan10217 Posts

October 13 2011 19:56 GMT

#457

yeah that's precisely why NRA shouldn't claim in thread...

If a scum gets framer townies will start dropping like flies because the framer will just start redirecting them into the NRA

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Japan10217 Posts

October 13 2011 20:05 GMT

#459

If a framer redirects someone into another person, does that mean that the target is actually redirected, or that it simply APPEARS that the target is redirected?

i.e. if a vanilla townie were redirected to an NRA member by a framer, would that vanilla townie then die or would it simply appear to a tracker that the vanilla townie visited the NRA member that night?

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Japan10217 Posts

October 13 2011 22:20 GMT

#471

CC actually makes a really good point. Someone earlier made an assumption about mafia not wanting to take two roles for one KP by taking assassin and NKVD or extractor. While this is a reasonable assumption (to an extent) it ignores the idea that scum can take information roles to deny them to town, plus it avoids clashing with scum on the KP roles. Then, if they happen to have a guy within the top 5, they can probably also safely pick assassin and get a free KP to boot while denying town the information role.

The alternative is to go for one of the KP roles and potentially clash with other scum who are also looking for KP roles. Assassin is generally useless unless you have a way of determining role/alignment, so IMO it's actually probably more likely to be a scum role than a town one, since telegraphing reads to the assassin if he's on town would be rather difficult.