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Radfield
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OK, we have a problem town. The problem is that everyone is sitting on IRC Skype and talking about the weather and lolcats and how the game is already solved.
Yes, town is in an amazing spot right now. We have investigative roles and a bunch of KP roles at our disposal(3 dead scum last night + America). If everything goes right, we should cruise though this game , but there is no guarantee that everything will go right.
We have a massive leak somewhere, as far too many people know far more than they should. Scum will be teaming up at this point, since they are dead in the water if they do not. Three targeted KP, with no scum dying and no scum overlap can get rid of town power roles and confirmed townies very quickly. Assuming that some of the 'town' KP is actually mafia, then that adds to our difficulties. Add in the potential roleblocker and there is possibility things could go downhill very fast.
Now chances are none of this will come to pass, but I don't really want to feel like a moron when I suddenly die tonight or tomorrow night and town careens into a loss.
All town players need to start assuming that the players they trust(despite not being confirmed) are potentially scum. We also need to get off IRC/Skype and start posting in the thread, or we may get to a point where we need to find scum without the help of blues, (and all the supposed reds are dead)and can't because there is no content in the thread.
I think the case on Meapak is crap, and I think that foolish is a better target. This whole sheeping Meapak without cause is silly. In fact, there are a number of players I am willing to lynch over Meapak.
Palmar, if not Meapak then who is your second choice.
Foolish, get in here and show that you care enough to defend the actions you have taken this game.
I want to hear EVERYONE'S thoughts on Meapak, and on who they want to lynch today and why.
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Radfield
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How could anyone know that someone is NRA.... unless you tried for it and didn't get it.
Did someone on your scum team try for NRA Jackal? And you've narrowed it down to Meapak? Explain.
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Radfield
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On October 18 2011 10:25 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 10:24 Radfield wrote:
How could anyone know that someone is NRA.... unless you tried for it and didn't get it.
Did someone on your scum team try for NRA Jackal? And you've narrowed it down to Meapak? Explain. Just did.
I don't follow...
Spell it out for me cause sometimes I'm slow. How do you know he's NRA?
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OK, there are 12 hours left in the day, so enough with the subterfuge. I had hoped to draw more people out, but the fact that no one bit tells me things as well.
Meapak is Red. We have a confirmed check on him, and he is scum. He is also a confirmed rockstar, so we need to lynch him, and use our night-time KP elsewhere. It's possible that Meapak was framed(he is the #1 pick), but his play has been pretty scummy all game, and the reason he was checked is because he was already suspected.
My defense of Meapak earlier -> False
Bugs attempt to start an alternate wagon on Sandro -> False
Massive leak in the circle -> False
At this point scum need to lynch townies, and cannot afford to bandwagon another scum player. My hope was that when presented with either a Meapak lynch or a Sandro/Bugs lynch, we would see people avoiding Meapak. There was simply no need to burst into the thread and yell confirmed red, when the thread was already suffering. Hopefully any townies out of the loop see that.
Jackal, you were wondering why the role-swapper would go after the #2 pick instead of Meapak. The answer is simple, Meapak is also a Yorkist, and was on the same team as Kita. At least that's the going theory.
Meapak is Red
##Vote Meapak_Ziphh
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Radfield
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A conversation for another time. What's done is done.
On October 19 2011 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Talk about over reliance on blues.
Taking a red check at face value is not 'over reliance on blues'. Sitting back today and not trying to out scum would be that. I sat on this for 36 hours, and tried to see what i could make of it.
You are scum. You have a gun. Consider that if you were framed, the framer would have to have made you one of these roles: Bad Santa, Vig, Day Vig, Capitalist, JOAT, Ace, BC, Dreamflower, NRA Member.
If the framer chooses to have his target show up as any of the roles listed above, then he counts as having a gun for Bullet Bill
That is the only way you could have shown up as having a gun. Bad Santa, Vig, Day Vig, Capitalist, Ace, BC and Dreamflower are all stupid frames, since #1 pick would never take them, and none of them are inherently scummy.
That leaves only JOAT and NRA member. NRA member doesn't make sense, since presumably the detective may be able to figure out if they should be dead depending on the nightkills(if the dead players are vanilla or non-visitors). That would run the risk of completely wasting your frame. So that leaves JOAT. Tell me Meapak, why did the framer want you to look like the JOAT?
I can see why the framer may want to change your role to something more scummy. Both Role Cop and Capitalist rely on finding scum based on role. But JOAT!? That isn't scummy at all, it's basically a null-read as it is great for Town or Scum.
Assassin, Vote Rigger, CPR Doc, HERO are all exceptional and believable frames if you want the first pick to look red. Not to mention, half the thread already believed you were the inventor, and the other half already KNEW you were rockstar, so why bother framing you and changing your role?
You are scum Meapak.
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Radfield
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You have people fishing you for info Meapak. That is it.
You also had 6 votes when I was still defending you! You were practically getting lynched before the dt check was already revealed(3/4 of the way through the day).
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Radfield
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There was no need for me to manufacture a red check, when you were already the clear lynch.
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Yes we can. He is on a timeline. He either produces results or dies tomorrow.
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Jimbo, don't you ignore me 
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Radfield
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Is a hider protected during the day, or only at night
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Radfield
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The inventor has invented Bill Murray!
Holy God
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Radfield
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let you talk to other players with a cel phone. Basically Bill Murray either gives you the ability to use PMs, or doesn't invent at all.
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Protact, could you please update the OP with the current count of townies/mafia/etc
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And poof! .... the hosts disappear....
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Radfield
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On October 20 2011 20:49 Scamp wrote:
As for House Chezinu, unless there's some way for there to be a cult in the game I think we should just ignore it.
I agree, but if we assume there are still 5 scum left, that changes things immensely. At this point I think we need to operate under the assumption that there are only 3 scum left, and we will figure things out if the game is still ongoing. However, last night the bullet bill checked Jimbo, and got back a result that jimbo was NOT carrying a gun. But if the Bill Murray invention affects flips, it could have also effected results. In fact, it is possible at this point(with a run-away town victory looming) that Jimbo and Foolish used the invention to actually change their alignment, and the mods allowed it.
Once the OP gets updated with how many townies and how many scum are left, I will begin to worry.
We are still waiting on the results of one check, but at this point I think our remaining 3 scum are:
Supersoft
Jacuzzi
Sinani
My preliminary thoughts are that we nuke Super, and lynch jacuzzi. But once we get the results of the check back we will know more. SCAMP, don't nuke yet We need to know if a hider(supersoft) can be killed during the day via nuke.
Does anyone dispute the fact that these three players are likely scum?
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Radfield
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Here is a question to the thread:
Wiggles, Chaoser and Cheese were all Lancaster.
On night one, Chaoser and Cheese were both killed. Chaoser was likely to be shot, and Cheese had an important role(Godfather).
Who was Wiggles protecting that was more likely to die than Chaoser, and more important than Cheese??
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Radfield
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If we can find and kill the last Lancaster, we reduce scum KP by 1.
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Radfield
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Spam Spam Apologies.
But it seems unlikely to me that any of those 3 players(super, jacuzzi, sinani) were more important to protect than either Chaoser or Cheese. So perhaps I'm missing something.
Only option would be if Super flips Framer or something. But at pick #18.....
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Radfield
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It's amazing how the scum start talking once the heat turns up
Scamp, please nuke Supersoft.
On October 21 2011 05:47 supersoft wrote:
same thing with radfield. He didnt answer any of my PMs
This is the one single PM you have sent me all game, sent after I asked Protact if we can kill a hider during the day. :
you wanna kill me or why do you ask such a Q?
Are you really put out that i didn't bother responding? YES, that is the obvious response. You have made zero effort to PM me this game, so don't talk about me not answering any of your PMs.
No hard feelings man, you're just scum.
In other news:
##Vote Sinani
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