EPTOn October 18 2011 14:22 Foolishness wrote:
I'm going to try to get everyone who mentioned me in this post, and say everything of relevance. I can't answer everything at once so don't get all pissy if I only answered 9 out of 10 of your questions. In no particular order:
No, my plan was not centered around getting shot. My plan was centered on getting shit done because I assumed I would be shot. Of any of the candidates proposed so far I'd vote for sandroba, but this isn't news to anyone. But speaking of him, you say that he's been open on skype and helped you scum hunt. Believe it or not there are some people who would be able to vouch that for me too. But that's not what this is about. I'll give you my situation is worse than his because he was active at the beginning of day 1 and was proven to be very involved in the ongoings of the town. However since then he's done zilch in the thread besides respond with witty and snarky comments (he learned from me!!!).
Enough about this Greymist crap. That's a sorry excuse to use as gunpowder. I am not the only one who voted for Greymist or agreed that he should be elected, many others expressed the same concerns that I did. The Radfield/sandroba/syllogism/Mig group (hence know as the "Radfield Group" in this post) seemed to easy to be under mafia influence. Greymist showed to me that he had honest intentions for the town and that he was competent enough to use them. And I'm not the only one he did this to. Radfield had honest intentions for the town but I couldn't help but think he was being manipulated by mafia.
And I kept telling people that it's very likely there's a mafia in Radfield's group. And everyone I told this to said, "no, I've talked with them all in PM, they all townies". Finally days later Radfield tells me:
[7:12:07 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): my little group
[7:12:07 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): has a little leak
[7:12:08 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): in my opinion
Also don't forget in Radfield's recent post he said "OK, we have a problem town."
Yeah I tried to warn you guys about this happening but nobody listened and everyone chose to point fingers instead. You guys have only yourself to blame as to why Palmar seems to know everything about everyone, despite the fact that nobody seems to be talking to him.
I voted for Greymist because I knew he wouldn't let something like that happened. I'm pretty sure a few others were thinking along the same lines as me. If Greymist flips town would you still say it was mafia-like to push him into office?
I would also like to say this to Mig, although it may apply to a few others as well, that you are quick to jump on anyone that does anything that is anti-Radfield or anti-sandroba. You say that "If scum were playing optimally the last thing they would want is me or radfield protected" yet you (most likely) cannot 100% prove that Radfield (or sandroba or syllogism or all 3) is town. And even if you could now you couldn't before elections started. Stop sucking up to players in your little blue circle which, in case you forgot, the leader of which claims there's a leak in.
Don't base your arguments around "well he went against Radfield/sandroba/Mig he must be playing for the mafia". Go find your leak before it's too late.
I'll agree that I haven't been posting like a monster, but the latter part of the sentence I have been doing. Also I really hope we are all above policy lynching here, we're all good players here, if you want to policy lynch why not role a die to decide who dreamflower is shooting tonight?
**Note I removed some of the content from prplhz's original post cause of the shear length, please go read his original for the irc logs and for more information.
I'm just going to ignore anything you say relating to wbg, because that has nothing to do with me being scum. Unless you want to accuse both of us being scum, and if that's the case then say so. But have fun trying to make that one work.
Yes I was PMing with chaoser and kitaman. You say I didn't pick up anything but how would you know? I'm not part of the Radfield group, I make sure my information is kept in the right people. Even today I told Radfield a few things and I'm sure the entire town knows by now. You seem to be connected indirectly to the Radfield group and I have no reason to trust you of course you're not going to know anything about me.
And yes, because I was talking to chaoser and kitaman I thought I had an idea on who they were shooting that night. And had it turn out the way I thought it would I would have had a big lead on some mafia, but that's not the way the cookie crumbled. Of course thanks to the Radfield group everyone knew about how chaoser died. drp
What have I done for the town? Let me tell you a few things I have not done. I have not put my blind trust in 3 or more players from the beginning of the game (and consequently not making sure said people know everything I've done including what I'm eating for breakfast). I have not been responsible for Palmar finding out an obscene amount of information he should not know. I have not been part of a town circle that has leaked information. I have not become town leader only to tell the town "oops, we're actually in a bad position because information is spreading faster than Yogi Bear steals picnic baskets."
To anything that Palmar has ever said:
![[image loading]](http://www.gapingvoid.com/11444661477.jpg)
I'm going to try to get everyone who mentioned me in this post, and say everything of relevance. I can't answer everything at once so don't get all pissy if I only answered 9 out of 10 of your questions. In no particular order:
No, my plan was not centered around getting shot. My plan was centered on getting shit done because I assumed I would be shot. Of any of the candidates proposed so far I'd vote for sandroba, but this isn't news to anyone. But speaking of him, you say that he's been open on skype and helped you scum hunt. Believe it or not there are some people who would be able to vouch that for me too. But that's not what this is about. I'll give you my situation is worse than his because he was active at the beginning of day 1 and was proven to be very involved in the ongoings of the town. However since then he's done zilch in the thread besides respond with witty and snarky comments (he learned from me!!!).
Enough about this Greymist crap. That's a sorry excuse to use as gunpowder. I am not the only one who voted for Greymist or agreed that he should be elected, many others expressed the same concerns that I did. The Radfield/sandroba/syllogism/Mig group (hence know as the "Radfield Group" in this post) seemed to easy to be under mafia influence. Greymist showed to me that he had honest intentions for the town and that he was competent enough to use them. And I'm not the only one he did this to. Radfield had honest intentions for the town but I couldn't help but think he was being manipulated by mafia.
And I kept telling people that it's very likely there's a mafia in Radfield's group. And everyone I told this to said, "no, I've talked with them all in PM, they all townies". Finally days later Radfield tells me:
[7:12:07 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): my little group
[7:12:07 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): has a little leak
[7:12:08 PM] Mike Hadfield (Radfield): in my opinion
Also don't forget in Radfield's recent post he said "OK, we have a problem town."
Yeah I tried to warn you guys about this happening but nobody listened and everyone chose to point fingers instead. You guys have only yourself to blame as to why Palmar seems to know everything about everyone, despite the fact that nobody seems to be talking to him.
I voted for Greymist because I knew he wouldn't let something like that happened. I'm pretty sure a few others were thinking along the same lines as me. If Greymist flips town would you still say it was mafia-like to push him into office?
I would also like to say this to Mig, although it may apply to a few others as well, that you are quick to jump on anyone that does anything that is anti-Radfield or anti-sandroba. You say that "If scum were playing optimally the last thing they would want is me or radfield protected" yet you (most likely) cannot 100% prove that Radfield (or sandroba or syllogism or all 3) is town. And even if you could now you couldn't before elections started. Stop sucking up to players in your little blue circle which, in case you forgot, the leader of which claims there's a leak in.
Don't base your arguments around "well he went against Radfield/sandroba/Mig he must be playing for the mafia". Go find your leak before it's too late.
I'll agree that I haven't been posting like a monster, but the latter part of the sentence I have been doing. Also I really hope we are all above policy lynching here, we're all good players here, if you want to policy lynch why not role a die to decide who dreamflower is shooting tonight?
**Note I removed some of the content from prplhz's original post cause of the shear length, please go read his original for the irc logs and for more information.
I'm just going to ignore anything you say relating to wbg, because that has nothing to do with me being scum. Unless you want to accuse both of us being scum, and if that's the case then say so. But have fun trying to make that one work.
Yes I was PMing with chaoser and kitaman. You say I didn't pick up anything but how would you know? I'm not part of the Radfield group, I make sure my information is kept in the right people. Even today I told Radfield a few things and I'm sure the entire town knows by now. You seem to be connected indirectly to the Radfield group and I have no reason to trust you of course you're not going to know anything about me.
And yes, because I was talking to chaoser and kitaman I thought I had an idea on who they were shooting that night. And had it turn out the way I thought it would I would have had a big lead on some mafia, but that's not the way the cookie crumbled. Of course thanks to the Radfield group everyone knew about how chaoser died. drp
What have I done for the town? Let me tell you a few things I have not done. I have not put my blind trust in 3 or more players from the beginning of the game (and consequently not making sure said people know everything I've done including what I'm eating for breakfast). I have not been responsible for Palmar finding out an obscene amount of information he should not know. I have not been part of a town circle that has leaked information. I have not become town leader only to tell the town "oops, we're actually in a bad position because information is spreading faster than Yogi Bear steals picnic baskets."
To anything that Palmar has ever said:
Aside from sand, who else do you think we should take a closer look at? do you have any other reads you are pushing atm?
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