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On October 15 2011 21:24 Radfield wrote:




Is there an actual argument in here somewhere? Basically what you are saying is that there is a risk I may be scum, and therefore should not be mayor. But what does a scum Radfield as mayor really look like? Fact is, regardless of what you think my alignment is, you should know from my playstyle that I will be hunting scum no matter what. You may think that my role in my hands could be dangerous, but I have a role which can confirm itself(and is shown to NOT be dangerous to town), and works with great synergy as the mayor position.

On October 15 2011 21:24 Radfield wrote:
You're also completely ignoring the vast upside of having a pro-town Radfield in an elected slot. If I am allowed to live till late-game, which an elected position will grant me, I will undoubtedly be a game changing presence in favor of town. I am clear thinking, good at scum hunting, and excellent at keeping town discussion moving in productive directions. You may think that I can give these benefits without the protection of an elected position, but I will be dead night 1.

On October 15 2011 21:24 Radfield wrote:
There are 12 players actively opposed to seeing me elected. There are 12 players actively trying to cut me down and reduce my effectiveness. There are 12 players who want me dead and out of this game.

Bugs, if you are NOT one of those 12 player, then you need to shape up and stop doing their work for them. Let me do my job.

Your day 1 scum reads are notoriously poor, yet you always push them with reckless abandon. Take off your scum-goggles, and slow down. In LOTR you had awful reads day 1, and solid reads every day after that(in the dead QT).

On October 16 2011 01:58 JACCUZISPLAT wrote:

have you ever identified mig as scum? because all that happens every pm game you 2 play is you work together from the very start.

in kurumi's tf2 mafia with like 5 vets, you claimed to mig day 1. for no other reason that you thought he was town.

I assume you've claimed to mig this game as well. All i want to know is why you think he is town. please.



Hiro is our lynch today everybody. He doesn't want a powerful role in office(#3 pick). I'm not sure why, maybe because that person could be scum with a powerful role? But then we could just lynch this person right? I just don't understand where he's coming from with that and it just looks like he doesn't want a powerful pick in office because it will be harder to night kill.

I can't trust mig because i have seen nothing that convinces me he is town. Mig is, as far as i can tell, syllogism's mafia hero, so syllo instantly thinks he is town every game.

this leaves us with radfield, jimbo and greymist as viable candidates.

I've established jimbo isn't on the same scumteam as hiro but i'm not sure how town he is.

Radfield is weird. He is obviously an excellent scumhunter(go read the last day of the last pyp for this.), but his posts have an off feeling to them.


this vote by hiro also comes off as odd. He also said he wants radfield in office because he is a good scumhunter, but he only knows this by representation. Hiro has basically given no reasons to be voting radfield over chaoser or jimbo, both of them also good scumhunters.(I think i know who jimbo is, so that's why im including him). Now either Radfield is scumbuddies with hiro or hiro is just scum putting down an easy vote, but it makes me uneasy of radfield.

Greymist is not experienced enough to be mayor in this game.

Foolishness would have had my vote looking at past games and experience but it seems he's barely playing in this game.

so in conclusion you should still vote me.

On October 15 2011 22:07 supersoft wrote:
in xlv wbg had aweful scumreads everyday :D
sorry but i have to agree with radfield there. you should slow it down a little. noone will listen to you if you spam like that. in this game, this playstyle of massive talking doesnt even confirm you as townie if you're right with your accusations. you could very well be a member of a opponent scumteam.
seriously, noone knows 100% sure that mig or rad are town. its a decision based on meta. i didn't vote mig because i think hes more likely town than rad. i vote him because i know him. at this point of the game given a 43% scumrate noone is confirmed by any mean!
we have no influence. All we can do and in my opinion we have to do is voting a mayor that is active and experienced.
if he's scum, we have to control him and we can control him. worst case is an inactive inexperienced and therefor a useless mayor.

On October 16 2011 03:09 wherebugsgo wrote:


The point is that I don't know what your alignment is, and I'd rather have someone who is more likely to be town (like Mig, or GreYMisT) than you in office.

The bolded is important; you yourself even imply that it's unknown what a scum mayor Radfield would look like. No one knows. You're pretty good at scum, for all we know you could play massively pro town while pushing your own agenda behind the scenes. No one would notice, especially if you manage to kill off all the more pro-town players by the time it would be relevant.

Lastly I said nothing about your role so I have no idea why you are bringing it up.



I'm not ignoring it. I'm basing this decision on the fact that your alignment is a complete unknown right now. You could be scum or town and we have no way of telling until a reliable DT checks you.

I like how you say a "pro-town Radfield" and not a "town Radfield." There IS a difference in this game.

Frankly I don't care if you live till lategame. The game doesn't revolve around you living or dying. The game revolves around us finding scum. At the moment, I can't tell what you are, so I don't want you in office. Simple as that.



Do you even know my reads in this game?

In fact, if you did, you would not say something so stupid. + Show Spoiler +

Not to mention, I don't know why you're saying my day 1 read in LoTR was bad when it ended up being Sauron (lol)




If this is red talking, then I can understand why this post sounds like this lol.

I'm pretty sure ON wouldn't be acting the way you're acting.



So Radfield is saying that I'm spamming?

And I'm scum because I'm talking in the thread too much?

Lol that's funny, like three people approached me yesterday and called me scum for not posting enough in the thread. Ridiculous.

On October 16 2011 03:52 heist wrote:
I'll be keeping my vote on Radfield. None of this, I PMed him. He comes across as town. If you are running for mayor I want you posting in the thread itself. The mayors at least should be leaving a mark on the thread, being active, contributing. Mig and Greymist, I feel like you two are feeling secure that you have a couple people believing you're town and doing pretty minimal stuff in the actual forum. I can't tell what you guys really are because you aren't active enough in-thread.

Do I know you guys are town? No. I can't just trust others telling me Greymist is town based on their conversations. And you guys expect me to have PM conversations in order judge for myself. Rather I expect you guys to start posting more in thread to more accurately gauge your alignments.

Radfield, at least, has been doing just that and even though he is better than most at hiding his mafia alignment, he's one of the most active players in thread right now and a really good scum-hunter.

On October 16 2011 04:06 kitaman27 wrote:
By the way, I tracked chaoser to a kill tonight.

On October 16 2011 04:05 heist wrote:
and the other candidates? they aren't exactly exuding townie to me.

And that implies that no matter what Radfield does, he needs to be killed off immediately since he's so unreadable.

On October 16 2011 04:06 kitaman27 wrote:
By the way, I tracked chaoser to a kill tonight.

On October 16 2011 04:16 chaoser wrote:


??? So why would you vote him into a office that basically prevents him from getting killed on night cycles if he needs to be killed off immediately and he's unreadable? How would you read someone to decide if he's mafia or not if he's unreadable?

11. Chaoser [2][2] Modern DT 2/10

A far cry from your impeccable performance in the previous game, I was left scratching my head wondering if you were even the same person even taking into account busyness etc. Not sending in a check night 2 also hurt considerably, and poo-pooing the voterigger/mafia 2 dt plan is definitely not good. In addition, you downplayed dreamflower's case vs Ace and were part of the group sided with Ace over Incognito which severely crippled the town days 1 and 2.

Revealing your role and being completely transparent later on in the game when you were under a lot of fire was definitely the right move and helped the town avoid a disastrous mislynch. On the whole I felt you lacked the time to properly analyze and think things through because you had a lot of evidence right in front of you that you even acknowledged in your posts but reached the wrong conclusions with it.

On October 16 2011 04:24 heist wrote:


I'm making the point of the opposite. I don't want him killed off early purely for how good he is as mafia member.

also after rednkted's last post i just realized that with town going for prot roles, people will be free to derp it up all they want

On October 12 2011 04:07 prplhz wrote:
@GMarshal

you up for some light coaching too? i just noticed that there are no coaches attached to this game at all

On October 14 2011 06:43 prplhz wrote:
i like the idea of narrowing down the candidates and then threatening them with having them dt checked.

mafia are surely going to try to get one of theirs elected if they can and while pardoner is stronger than mayor, mayor is still storng. if we narrow down the range of people who are candidates mafia can't just suddenly vote in a pardoner in the last second by switching a single vote or something like that.

On October 13 2011 06:46 prplhz wrote:
i like this these are the most beneficial roles for town and if we can't have them then a red lynch would be nice in compensation having top5 pick leaves too much room for shenanigans also i don't hope that there will be a ton of people with a suppressed batman inside who will get into top3/5 and then pick another role because they "always wanted to be like qatol" or something like that

also i'm picking [1][1] so no one else pick that please, i'll invent you many good inventions promiss

On October 14 2011 22:20 prplhz wrote:
you know while the mayor needs to be someone town, the pardoner is going to be held very accountable. we should lynch the pardoner the second he doesn't do exactly what we tell him to so i think pardoner needs to be expendable.

On October 12 2011 19:42 Radfield wrote:


Pardoner is a threat, but if they ever use their power inappropriately they get lynched. Scary in the endgame, and needs to be eliminated before we get down to 6-8 players, but for now it is an excellent insurance policy against the Vote Rigger and Showtime!.

On October 15 2011 09:14 prplhz wrote:
can we do some scum hunting? this is all getting lost in electing people and that's very important, but usually we'd use 48 hours to talk about who is scum and who isn't. right now there's not enough of that from the candidates for election.