EPTOn October 15 2011 12:01 chaoser wrote:
I think he's trying to say that he wants to lynch me
I think he's trying to say that he wants to lynch me
DINGDINGDING
we have a
Without further ado, I shall present to you all:
wherebugsgo's Traveling Circus
Featuring:
The Scum of the Day
Featuring:
The Scum of the Day
Ladies and gents, Tudors and Lancasters, Commoners and Yorkers+ Show Spoiler +
(and anyone I may have missed inbetween, *wink* *wink*)
CHAOSER!
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cue applause
yaaaaaay go chaoser yaaaaay clap clap clap clap
For his first trick, chaoser displays: contradiction!
Observe carefully as he says that he will support sandroba and Radfield if he doesn't gain ground while seeking election, and then backpedals on Radfield!
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[13:37] <wherebugsgo> chaoser who do you want elected?
[13:39] <chaoser> myself
[13:40] <wherebugsgo> and who else?
[13:42] <chaoser> i don't know, i don't trust anyone else enough to want them in an elected role
[13:42] <chaoser> but i feel like that's pretty much how everyone should feel
[13:42] <chaoser> about elections
[13:42] <chaoser> if i really had to
[13:42] <chaoser> i'd say sandroba
[13:42] <chaoser> or rad
[13:42] <chaoser> it'd force them to keep contributing
[13:43] <wherebugsgo> so wait
[13:43] <wherebugsgo> do you or do you not trust sandroba/radfield?
[13:44] <chaoser> i trust them as much as i can shake a thumb at them but since I don't know if they're 100% town I'm weary
[13:44] <chaoser> who are you goign to vote for?
[13:45] <wherebugsgo> mmm
[13:45] <wherebugsgo> probably syllo
[13:45] <chaoser> the syllo mig team?
[13:45] <chaoser> they're running together btw
[13:46] <wherebugsgo> yeah, I know
[13:46] <chaoser> k
[13:46] <chaoser> so you trust both of them?
[13:46] <wherebugsgo> syllo is my strongest town read atm, yes
[13:46] <wherebugsgo> and Mig is pretty up there too
[13:48] <chaoser> is this from thread
[13:48] <chaoser> or PMs?
[13:49] <wherebugsgo> PMs mostly
[13:49] <wherebugsgo> PMs and thread for syllo
[13:39] <chaoser> myself
[13:40] <wherebugsgo> and who else?
[13:42] <chaoser> i don't know, i don't trust anyone else enough to want them in an elected role
[13:42] <chaoser> but i feel like that's pretty much how everyone should feel
[13:42] <chaoser> about elections
[13:42] <chaoser> if i really had to
[13:42] <chaoser> i'd say sandroba
[13:42] <chaoser> or rad
[13:42] <chaoser> it'd force them to keep contributing
[13:43] <wherebugsgo> so wait
[13:43] <wherebugsgo> do you or do you not trust sandroba/radfield?
[13:44] <chaoser> i trust them as much as i can shake a thumb at them but since I don't know if they're 100% town I'm weary
[13:44] <chaoser> who are you goign to vote for?
[13:45] <wherebugsgo> mmm
[13:45] <wherebugsgo> probably syllo
[13:45] <chaoser> the syllo mig team?
[13:45] <chaoser> they're running together btw
[13:46] <wherebugsgo> yeah, I know
[13:46] <chaoser> k
[13:46] <chaoser> so you trust both of them?
[13:46] <wherebugsgo> syllo is my strongest town read atm, yes
[13:46] <wherebugsgo> and Mig is pretty up there too
[13:48] <chaoser> is this from thread
[13:48] <chaoser> or PMs?
[13:49] <wherebugsgo> PMs mostly
[13:49] <wherebugsgo> PMs and thread for syllo
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This was early yesterday, when I believed syllo and Mig were town. Today, I am unsure and I will get to this later
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[18:47] <chaoser> they are?
[19:20] <chaoser> where did they say that?
[19:34] <wherebugsgo> wait what? sorry
[19:34] <wherebugsgo> I don't know what you're referring to because this IRC window is fresh
[19:34] <wherebugsgo> so I have nothing from the previous session
[19:34] <chaoser> [18:57] <wherebugsgo> so sandroba and radfield were planning on running together?\
[19:34] <chaoser> i was at work
[19:35] <wherebugsgo> they said that earlier in IRC I believe
[19:35] <wherebugsgo> now sandroba supports syllo
[19:35] <chaoser> ok
[19:35] <wherebugsgo> so you would still support Radfield for office
[19:35] <wherebugsgo> if you didn't gain any ground?
[19:36] <chaoser> if i don't gain any ground i'll vote syllo
[19:37] <wherebugsgo> why the change of heart?
[19:38] <chaoser> i didn't have a change of heart?
[19:38] <chaoser> i said i woudl vote sandroba
[19:38] <chaoser> if he ran
[19:39] <chaoser> he said he's not running
[19:39] <chaoser> and that he suports syllo
[19:39] <chaoser> where is the change of heart in that?
[19:40] <wherebugsgo> you said you'd support radfield or sandroba
[19:41] <chaoser> [16:37] <wherebugsgo> chaoser who do you want elected?
[19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> if i really had to
[19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> i'd say sandroba
[19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> or rad
[19:41] <wherebugsgo> yep
[19:41] <chaoser> [16:37] <wherebugsgo> chaoser who do you want elected?
[19:41] == No such nick: chaoser
[19:42] <wherebugsgo> so now
[19:42] == No such nick: chaoser
[19:42] <chaoser> ok apparently if i copy paste the log
[19:42] <chaoser> i get disconencted
[19:42] <chaoser> but go look
[19:42] <chaoser> in the logs
[19:42] <chaoser> where do i say
[19:42] <chaoser> i'm voting radfield?
[19:42] <wherebugsgo> you say you want sandroba or rad
[19:42] <wherebugsgo> elected
[19:42] <wherebugsgo> not syllo
[19:42] <chaoser> i never said that
[19:42] <wherebugsgo> yes you did you just copied it
[19:42] <wherebugsgo> [19:41] <chaoser> [16:37] <wherebugsgo> chaoser who do you want elected? [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> if i really had to [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> i'd say sandroba [19:41] <chaoser> [16:42] <chaoser> or rad
[19:43] <wherebugsgo> sandroba, or rad
[19:43] <wherebugsgo> sandroba's gone
[19:43] <wherebugsgo> so that leaves rad
[19:43] <wherebugsgo> why syllo and not rad?
[19:43] <chaoser> oh ok, i thought you meant like a combo
[19:43] <wherebugsgo> what?
[19:43] <wherebugsgo> you said OR
[19:43] <wherebugsgo> how the hell is that a combo
[19:44] <chaoser> yeah i know, you said are you voting for rad?
[19:44] <wherebugsgo> ok brb custom
[19:44] <chaoser> ?
[19:44] <chaoser> what's custom
[19:45] <wherebugsgo> sc2
[19:45] <chaoser> ...
[19:48] <chaoser> i meant to say that if i had to vote otherwise besides myself i would vote sand or rad but that i didn't fully 100% trust either one of them. I believe sandroba to be townish and radfield I'm not sure about, hence why previously I had said a null read on him. At the time, those were the only two people I were thinking and I didn't notice syllo at all. After talkign to sandroba about it, I
[19:48] <chaoser> reread syllo's posts and they seemed decently protownie to me. That is why
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> okay
[21:00] == No such nick: chaoser
Chaoser says he'll vote sandroba or Radfield if he himself doesn't gain much ground, then completely avoids Radfield like the plague.
He even says "oh I thought you meant combo" when he himself said sandroba OR radfield, never sandroba AND radfield.
Weird, eh?
What else has Chaoser got to show us?
It looks like....
Using past games to "prove" a point!
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On October 14 2011 12:27 chaoser wrote:
![[image loading]](http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/26/9938-mikehaggar.jpg)
I will hunt every scum down. My record in XXXVIII, XXXIX and LOTR speaks for itself. I will lead this town to victory. Vote Chaoser.
Chaoser For Mayor!
I will hunt every scum down. My record in XXXVIII, XXXIX and LOTR speaks for itself. I will lead this town to victory. Vote Chaoser.
Then calling out supersoft for using similar logic for supporting someone else for mayor!
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On October 15 2011 05:59 chaoser wrote:
Your only criteria for voting for someone is that you've played in previously PM games with them and that they are active all the time?
Your only criteria for voting for someone is that you've played in previously PM games with them and that they are active all the time?
There are other things too, but I've stopped here because I have been in IRC this entire time and have lost my focus on this post. I'll clarify more things/reasons if anyone wants me to. (I'm on IRC)
Here's a conversation we just had in which chaoser provides reasons as to why he's playing the way he's playing:
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[20:47] <chaosers> yo
[20:48] <wherebugsgo> sup
[20:49] <chaosers> why do you think i'm mafia?
[20:49] <wherebugsgo> you'll find out soon enough
[20:49] <wherebugsgo> besides DB who do you want lynched?
[20:49] <wherebugsgo> and why?
[20:49] <chaosers> hiro
[20:49] <chaosers> rafield
[20:49] <chaosers> anyone saying mafia won't run for office
[20:50] <chaosers> basically
[20:50] <wherebugsgo> okay
[20:50] <wherebugsgo> so why hiro?
[20:50] <wherebugsgo> besides that
[20:50] <wherebugsgo> it can't be the only reason lol
[20:50] <chaosers> I would like to nominate the 3 most active and protown people as of right now, and that would be:
[20:50] <chaosers> Sandroba
[20:50] <chaosers> Jumbo
[20:50] <chaosers> Radfield
[20:50] <chaosers> All three put a lot of effort into organizing town so far. By putting them in public office, We pressure them to keep up there performance. Of the three, I like Sand and Rad the most, Jumbo the least.
[20:51] <chaosers> chaoser or wiggles dont have a platform, so i see no reason to elect them. They could change my mind, if they give me a reason to.
[20:51] <chaosers> stuff like that
[20:51] <chaosers> no, they dont have platforms, but I was putting out who I would like to run based on there performance this game so far.
[20:51] <chaosers> I look up to you and your play as something to emulate, and while your past performance in leading town is impressive, you haven't done much of that this game. Or perhaps i should say your number 4 behind sand/jumbo/rad. I might vote for you, but you got to give me more reasons
[20:51] <chaosers> then he says
[20:51] <chaosers> I am of the opinion that the scum teams wont try running for mayor unless they have some role combo that would stop DT checks (I doubt all three would have this). maybe 2 out of 3. maybe.
[20:52] <chaosers> by that logic
[20:52] <chaosers> i'd be least likely to have a combo role
[20:52] <wherebugsgo> so again, other than the fact that he overlooked the fact that several roles in the game have the ability to be strong as scum in office, why is hiro scum?
[20:52] <chaosers> since i'm 19
[20:53] <chaosers> cool, Im voting for Radfield.
[20:53] <chaosers> My dream picks are Rad/mig for Mayor/pardoner right now. Both have put a good amount of effort into the thread or PMs. Both are good scumhunters (Well I dont know about Rad, Im going of reputation. but Mig is for sure).
[20:53] <chaosers> My only hang up about Mig is that prior to getting his role, he showed no interest into becoming Mayor. I might be overly paranoid, but I dont think any scum would have been gunning for the Mayor slot until they got there role.
[20:53] <chaosers> he says he's vointg for rad
[20:53] <chaosers> and immediately pairs him with mig
[20:53] <chaosers> who is a lot more townie
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> sooo
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> I don't really see you
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> providing reasons
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> just saying he likes Radfield and Mig for office
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> so he's scum?
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> lol
[20:56] <chaosers> if you're going to tunnel me
[20:56] <chaosers> then tunnel me
[20:56] <chaosers> you've played games where i've played mafia
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> I've played one game
[20:57] <chaosers> ask yourself if my play this game is a result of me being mafia or a product of being overworked, underslept, and out of my element
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> where you're scum
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> uhh lol
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> don't get all emotional with me
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> that shit doesn't work
[20:57] <chaosers> i ain't getting emotional
[20:57] <chaosers> that's my excuse for my play
[20:57] <chaosers> take it or leave it
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> well, you're pulling in outside of game excuses
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> for your play
[20:57] <chaosers> indeed i am
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> you really think that's going to help your case, then so be it
[20:58] <chaosers> it's called emta
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> however
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> your meta would suggest that you are scum this game
[20:58] <chaosers> from the one game you played with me/
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> no
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> primarily from what I saw in LOTR when you were town
[20:58] <chaosers> you mean at the end of that game?
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> as town you don't seem to back off when you think someone is scm
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> yep
[20:59] <chaosers> did i back off from people when i was scum in that one game where i was mafia?
[20:59] <wherebugsgo> you bussed in that game
[20:59] <chaosers> have i EVER backed off people?
[20:59] <wherebugsgo> other than that
[21:00] <chaosers> so all of a sudden i decide it's ok in my play
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> you pushed DB
[21:00] <chaosers> to back off people
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> sorry, Pyo
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> as a mislynch
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> you push bad townies
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> as scum
[21:00] <chaosers> that's like every scum,at least this time after talkign to people
[21:00] <chaosers> i acknowledge
[21:00] <chaosers> he was bad lynch
[21:00] <chaosers> and gave up on it
[21:01] <chaosers> if i had kept pushing it i can understand
[21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:02] <chaosers> just
[21:02] <chaosers> whatever
[21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:02] <chaosers> clearly nothing i say
[21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:02] <chaosers> will convince you otherwise
[21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:02] <chaosers> lol
[21:03] <wherebugsgo> trololool
[21:03] <chaosers> trololol
[21:04] <wherebugsgo> oh btw
[21:04] <wherebugsgo> XLIV doesn't apply as much here, since you decided you'd bus Mig as your plan from day 1
[21:04] <wherebugsgo> bussing doesn't really work here when you have 3 scumteams and each team is made of 4 players each
[21:04] <chaosers> you know you could go look at every other game
[21:04] <chaosers> i've palyed mafia
[21:05] <chaosers> besides that one right?
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> so whether your meta as scum applies from XLIV here doesn't matter
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> no, actually, there's no game where someone as scum (for good players, anyway) will apply here
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> really we can only use town meta
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> because that's what will be consistent
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> scum meta is going to be useless because even scum in this game will want to "scumhunt"
[21:05] <chaosers> ok so in a game
[21:05] <chaosers> that's soooo easy
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> in XLIV you bussed Mig two days in a row, so your "meta" there is largely useless
[21:05] <chaosers> to scumhunt
[21:06] <chaosers> you'd think
[21:06] <chaosers> i'd be a lot better at it huh?
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> in this game?
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> yeah definitely
[21:06] <chaosers> yeah
[21:06] <chaosers> in this game
[21:06] <chaosers> yeah
[21:06] <chaosers> but i didn't
[21:06] <chaosers> if i was mafia, i'd be living it up
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> I'd think you'd actually put some heart into it if you were town
[21:06] <chaosers> it' be liek bussing mafia that weren't even on my team
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> wtf?
[21:06] <chaosers> by bussing i mean
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> yes, kinda
[21:06] <chaosers> i'd be hunting mafia
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> you would get towncred
[21:06] <chaosers> like it was going out of fashion
[21:07] <chaosers> yeah
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> but
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> you'd still have an agenda
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> and your agenda is apparent
[21:07] <chaosers> i understan that's like WIFOM
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> you want to lynch people who appear scummy
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> hiro and DB are fucking terrible lynches and you'd know that if you were town
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> you saw XLIV and how bad they both played
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> DB as medic and hiro as VT
[21:07] <chaosers> i don't even remember hiro
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> hiro fakeclaimed vet
[21:07] <chaosers> as a player
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> and DB claimed DT? into medic
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> and then got himself shot
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> cause he was dumb.
[21:08] <chaosers> i remember someone doing that but not who it was
[21:08] <chaosers> but now i do
[21:08] <chaosers> so thanks
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> now he's doing something dumb again and you jump all over him as if that's some sort of huge tell that he's scum
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> same with hiro
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> hiro is being standard hiro for all intents and purposes
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> and you want to lynch him because he's "scummy" without actually providing real reasons
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> if you were town
[21:08] <chaosers> he said
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> you would recognize that these two players are both known for this kind of play
[21:09] <chaosers> that he thinks mafia would run for office
[21:09] <chaosers> unless they have combos
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> and you would give them time
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> he thinks they would NOT run for office
[21:09] <chaosers> um, i'm sorry but i'm not super jesus with a memory of 100
[21:09] <chaosers> i on't remember bad palyers
[21:09] <chaosers> the only bad player i remember
[21:09] <chaosers> is kenpachi
[21:09] <chaosers> cause i got him lynched once as town
[21:09] <chaosers> and he was town
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> you just played a game
[21:09] <chaosers> and lsot us the game
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> full of bad players
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> in LoTR
[21:10] <chaosers> yeah, and i only remember the last few poeple
[21:10] <chaosers> heist
[21:10] <chaosers> and trancestorm
[21:10] <chaosers> mostly trancesotrm
[21:10] <wherebugsgo> and Drazerk
[21:10] <chaosers> i will never play with that guy again
[21:10] <chaosers> drazerk protected my ass
[21:10] <chaosers> i high five him
[21:10] <wherebugsgo> he also protted iGrok
[21:10] <wherebugsgo> the "survivor Balrog"
[21:10] <chaosers> yeah that was really stupid...
[21:10] <chaosers> hey, i actually thought iGRok was actualyl th balrog
[21:10] <wherebugsgo> and also believed kita's tracker claim IIRC rofl
[21:11] <chaosers> everyon believd his claim
[21:11] <wherebugsgo> and by everyone, you mean all the townies who were left
[21:11] <wherebugsgo> and almost all of them were bad to some extent at least lol
[21:11] <wherebugsgo> heist believes any claim
[21:11] <chaosers> um, it was day 2 when he claimed
[21:11] <chaosers> i tihnk
[21:11] <wherebugsgo> no it was later than that
[21:11] <chaosers> day 3
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> all the good townies were dead by that point
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> but anyway
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> I think you're a good player as town
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> which is why I seriously question your motives
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> when you push DB and hiro
[21:12] <chaosers> jesus that was such a shit game...
[21:12] <chaosers> mafia were so stacked with good palyers...
[21:13] <chaosers> jackal things hiro is a good lynch too>
[21:15] <chaosers> mig agrees that peopel who said mafia aren't running in elections is scummy as well?
[21:15] <chaosers> i talke to both of them before i decided on hiro
[21:15] <chaosers> this was after the DB thing
[21:16] <wherebugsgo> 1. the other things that Jackal and Mig have done/said are not quite as scummy as what you have done
[21:16] <chaosers> i was out of it from work
[21:16] <wherebugsgo> 2. they actually have good reasons
[21:16] <wherebugsgo> and can provide them
[21:16] <wherebugsgo> 3. they have some original opinions.
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> I can't find anything that you've said that hadn't already been said by some other person in the game already
[21:17] <chaosers> i've been in the ER for like 15 hours
[21:17] <chaosers> in the past three days
[21:17] <chaosers> + med school classes
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> dude
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> a lot of us have school too
[21:17] <chaosers> i'm sorry that i haven't been puttign in my 100%
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> I don't care what's going on outside of game
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> if that's an issue
[21:17] <chaosers> did you have to hold someone's liver for three hours straight?
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> request a replacement
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> do I care?
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:18] <chaosers> apparently you don't
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> this game isn't about sparing who I have the most sympathy for
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> this game is about finding scum and killing them
[21:18] <chaosers> i'm not saying
[21:18] <chaosers> pity me
[21:18] <chaosers> i'm saying
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> certainly sounds like it lol
[21:18] <chaosers> whether i'm scum or not
[21:18] <chaosers> wil lbe clear
[21:18] <chaosers> in a ay or two
[21:18] <chaosers> especailly after elections
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> "oh look at how much work I've been doing irl please let me live"
[21:18] <chaosers> sigh
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:18] <chaosers> your arguement against me
[21:19] <chaosers> is that i'm not playing up to snuff
[21:19] <chaosers> my defense is that i know i'm not
[21:19] <chaosers> and this is the reason why
[21:19] <wherebugsgo> so you think
[21:19] <wherebugsgo> we should lynch hiro/DB instead of you?
[21:19] <wherebugsgo> or Radfield lol
[21:19] <chaosers> i think radfield
[21:19] <chaosers> actually
[21:19] <chaosers> i don't think
[21:19] <chaosers> i nee to reread the thread
[21:19] <chaosers> when i'm not dea tired
[21:19] <chaosers> and then talk to people
[21:19] <wherebugsgo> loool
[21:19] <chaosers> restart the game
[21:20] <wherebugsgo> you have like
[21:20] <wherebugsgo> 24 hours tomorrow
[21:20] <wherebugsgo> it's a saturday
[21:20] <wherebugsgo> if you're really this tired you'll have plenty of time to save yourself!
[21:20] <chaosers> hospitals don't clsoe on weekends btw, but i'll only be busy from 5AM-9AM
[21:21] <chaosers> how old are you -_-
[21:21] <chaosers> to compare school to med school is ridiculous...
[21:21] <wherebugsgo> I'm a physics/linguistics undergrad at UC Berkeley
[21:21] <wherebugsgo> don't try to use the school excuse on me lol
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> I realize that med school is hard
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> but it's a pathetic excuse
[21:22] <chaosers> come to med school, see our 80 hour work week
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> dude
[21:22] <chaosers> that's liek average
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> if you're so bogged down
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> why the hell are you playing mafia?
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> if this is real I can't imagine you're even enjoying the game
[21:22] <chaosers> i wasn't expecting to be this bogge down
[21:22] <chaosers> one of my coworkers
[21:22] <chaosers> is out sick
[21:22] <chaosers> so i had to take their shift for this week
[21:23] <chaosers> i'll be free all of next week
[21:23] <chaosers> from shifts
[21:23] <chaosers> since he'll be back
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> zZz
[21:23] <chaosers> and covering all of mine
[21:23] <chaosers> and no
[21:23] <chaosers> i'm not enjoyign this game
[21:23] <chaosers> rightn ow
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> I would think if you were town you'd probably request replacement lol
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> but whatever
[21:23] <chaosers> you know, you could try being a little bit less of a condescending ass
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> I'm being condescending?
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> rofl
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> I'm not saying I'm better than you
[21:24] <chaosers> with the zZzs and lol's
[21:24] <chaosers> ?
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> I'm just saying this is really underhanded
[21:24] <chaosers> patronizing
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> it's total bullshit IMO
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> to be using IRL excuses in a game of psychology
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> and in fact
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> anyone who does so
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> IMO
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> and then doesn't do anything about it
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> is insta scum
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> you seem to be completely apathetic
[21:24] <chaosers> i am doing somthing about it
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> what, exactly?
[21:24] <chaosers> i talk to gm
[21:24] <chaosers> ed
[21:24] <chaosers> about getting him to replace me
[21:25] <wherebugsgo> GM?
[21:25] <chaosers> but that's outsie the game
[21:25] <wherebugsgo> GM is not hosting this game lol
[21:25] <chaosers> yeah
[21:25] <chaosers> but he said
[21:25] <wherebugsgo> and he's not able to play either
[21:25] <chaosers> he's in charge
[21:25] <chaosers> of somestuff
[21:25] <chaosers> yeah
[20:48] <wherebugsgo> sup
[20:49] <chaosers> why do you think i'm mafia?
[20:49] <wherebugsgo> you'll find out soon enough
[20:49] <wherebugsgo> besides DB who do you want lynched?
[20:49] <wherebugsgo> and why?
[20:49] <chaosers> hiro
[20:49] <chaosers> rafield
[20:49] <chaosers> anyone saying mafia won't run for office
[20:50] <chaosers> basically
[20:50] <wherebugsgo> okay
[20:50] <wherebugsgo> so why hiro?
[20:50] <wherebugsgo> besides that
[20:50] <wherebugsgo> it can't be the only reason lol
[20:50] <chaosers> I would like to nominate the 3 most active and protown people as of right now, and that would be:
[20:50] <chaosers> Sandroba
[20:50] <chaosers> Jumbo
[20:50] <chaosers> Radfield
[20:50] <chaosers> All three put a lot of effort into organizing town so far. By putting them in public office, We pressure them to keep up there performance. Of the three, I like Sand and Rad the most, Jumbo the least.
[20:51] <chaosers> chaoser or wiggles dont have a platform, so i see no reason to elect them. They could change my mind, if they give me a reason to.
[20:51] <chaosers> stuff like that
[20:51] <chaosers> no, they dont have platforms, but I was putting out who I would like to run based on there performance this game so far.
[20:51] <chaosers> I look up to you and your play as something to emulate, and while your past performance in leading town is impressive, you haven't done much of that this game. Or perhaps i should say your number 4 behind sand/jumbo/rad. I might vote for you, but you got to give me more reasons
[20:51] <chaosers> then he says
[20:51] <chaosers> I am of the opinion that the scum teams wont try running for mayor unless they have some role combo that would stop DT checks (I doubt all three would have this). maybe 2 out of 3. maybe.
[20:52] <chaosers> by that logic
[20:52] <chaosers> i'd be least likely to have a combo role
[20:52] <wherebugsgo> so again, other than the fact that he overlooked the fact that several roles in the game have the ability to be strong as scum in office, why is hiro scum?
[20:52] <chaosers> since i'm 19
[20:53] <chaosers> cool, Im voting for Radfield.
[20:53] <chaosers> My dream picks are Rad/mig for Mayor/pardoner right now. Both have put a good amount of effort into the thread or PMs. Both are good scumhunters (Well I dont know about Rad, Im going of reputation. but Mig is for sure).
[20:53] <chaosers> My only hang up about Mig is that prior to getting his role, he showed no interest into becoming Mayor. I might be overly paranoid, but I dont think any scum would have been gunning for the Mayor slot until they got there role.
[20:53] <chaosers> he says he's vointg for rad
[20:53] <chaosers> and immediately pairs him with mig
[20:53] <chaosers> who is a lot more townie
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> sooo
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> I don't really see you
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> providing reasons
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> just saying he likes Radfield and Mig for office
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> so he's scum?
[20:55] <wherebugsgo> lol
[20:56] <chaosers> if you're going to tunnel me
[20:56] <chaosers> then tunnel me
[20:56] <chaosers> you've played games where i've played mafia
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> I've played one game
[20:57] <chaosers> ask yourself if my play this game is a result of me being mafia or a product of being overworked, underslept, and out of my element
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> where you're scum
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> uhh lol
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> don't get all emotional with me
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> that shit doesn't work
[20:57] <chaosers> i ain't getting emotional
[20:57] <chaosers> that's my excuse for my play
[20:57] <chaosers> take it or leave it
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> well, you're pulling in outside of game excuses
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> for your play
[20:57] <chaosers> indeed i am
[20:57] <wherebugsgo> you really think that's going to help your case, then so be it
[20:58] <chaosers> it's called emta
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> however
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> your meta would suggest that you are scum this game
[20:58] <chaosers> from the one game you played with me/
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> no
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> primarily from what I saw in LOTR when you were town
[20:58] <chaosers> you mean at the end of that game?
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> as town you don't seem to back off when you think someone is scm
[20:58] <wherebugsgo> yep
[20:59] <chaosers> did i back off from people when i was scum in that one game where i was mafia?
[20:59] <wherebugsgo> you bussed in that game
[20:59] <chaosers> have i EVER backed off people?
[20:59] <wherebugsgo> other than that
[21:00] <chaosers> so all of a sudden i decide it's ok in my play
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> you pushed DB
[21:00] <chaosers> to back off people
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> sorry, Pyo
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> as a mislynch
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> you push bad townies
[21:00] <wherebugsgo> as scum
[21:00] <chaosers> that's like every scum,at least this time after talkign to people
[21:00] <chaosers> i acknowledge
[21:00] <chaosers> he was bad lynch
[21:00] <chaosers> and gave up on it
[21:01] <chaosers> if i had kept pushing it i can understand
[21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:02] <chaosers> just
[21:02] <chaosers> whatever
[21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:02] <chaosers> clearly nothing i say
[21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:02] <chaosers> will convince you otherwise
[21:02] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:02] <chaosers> lol
[21:03] <wherebugsgo> trololool
[21:03] <chaosers> trololol
[21:04] <wherebugsgo> oh btw
[21:04] <wherebugsgo> XLIV doesn't apply as much here, since you decided you'd bus Mig as your plan from day 1
[21:04] <wherebugsgo> bussing doesn't really work here when you have 3 scumteams and each team is made of 4 players each
[21:04] <chaosers> you know you could go look at every other game
[21:04] <chaosers> i've palyed mafia
[21:05] <chaosers> besides that one right?
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> so whether your meta as scum applies from XLIV here doesn't matter
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> no, actually, there's no game where someone as scum (for good players, anyway) will apply here
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> really we can only use town meta
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> because that's what will be consistent
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> scum meta is going to be useless because even scum in this game will want to "scumhunt"
[21:05] <chaosers> ok so in a game
[21:05] <chaosers> that's soooo easy
[21:05] <wherebugsgo> in XLIV you bussed Mig two days in a row, so your "meta" there is largely useless
[21:05] <chaosers> to scumhunt
[21:06] <chaosers> you'd think
[21:06] <chaosers> i'd be a lot better at it huh?
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> in this game?
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> yeah definitely
[21:06] <chaosers> yeah
[21:06] <chaosers> in this game
[21:06] <chaosers> yeah
[21:06] <chaosers> but i didn't
[21:06] <chaosers> if i was mafia, i'd be living it up
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> I'd think you'd actually put some heart into it if you were town
[21:06] <chaosers> it' be liek bussing mafia that weren't even on my team
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> wtf?
[21:06] <chaosers> by bussing i mean
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> yes, kinda
[21:06] <chaosers> i'd be hunting mafia
[21:06] <wherebugsgo> you would get towncred
[21:06] <chaosers> like it was going out of fashion
[21:07] <chaosers> yeah
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> but
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> you'd still have an agenda
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> and your agenda is apparent
[21:07] <chaosers> i understan that's like WIFOM
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> you want to lynch people who appear scummy
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> hiro and DB are fucking terrible lynches and you'd know that if you were town
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> you saw XLIV and how bad they both played
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> DB as medic and hiro as VT
[21:07] <chaosers> i don't even remember hiro
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> hiro fakeclaimed vet
[21:07] <chaosers> as a player
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> and DB claimed DT? into medic
[21:07] <wherebugsgo> and then got himself shot
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> cause he was dumb.
[21:08] <chaosers> i remember someone doing that but not who it was
[21:08] <chaosers> but now i do
[21:08] <chaosers> so thanks
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> now he's doing something dumb again and you jump all over him as if that's some sort of huge tell that he's scum
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> same with hiro
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> hiro is being standard hiro for all intents and purposes
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> and you want to lynch him because he's "scummy" without actually providing real reasons
[21:08] <wherebugsgo> if you were town
[21:08] <chaosers> he said
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> you would recognize that these two players are both known for this kind of play
[21:09] <chaosers> that he thinks mafia would run for office
[21:09] <chaosers> unless they have combos
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> and you would give them time
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> he thinks they would NOT run for office
[21:09] <chaosers> um, i'm sorry but i'm not super jesus with a memory of 100
[21:09] <chaosers> i on't remember bad palyers
[21:09] <chaosers> the only bad player i remember
[21:09] <chaosers> is kenpachi
[21:09] <chaosers> cause i got him lynched once as town
[21:09] <chaosers> and he was town
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> you just played a game
[21:09] <chaosers> and lsot us the game
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> full of bad players
[21:09] <wherebugsgo> in LoTR
[21:10] <chaosers> yeah, and i only remember the last few poeple
[21:10] <chaosers> heist
[21:10] <chaosers> and trancestorm
[21:10] <chaosers> mostly trancesotrm
[21:10] <wherebugsgo> and Drazerk
[21:10] <chaosers> i will never play with that guy again
[21:10] <chaosers> drazerk protected my ass
[21:10] <chaosers> i high five him
[21:10] <wherebugsgo> he also protted iGrok
[21:10] <wherebugsgo> the "survivor Balrog"
[21:10] <chaosers> yeah that was really stupid...
[21:10] <chaosers> hey, i actually thought iGRok was actualyl th balrog
[21:10] <wherebugsgo> and also believed kita's tracker claim IIRC rofl
[21:11] <chaosers> everyon believd his claim
[21:11] <wherebugsgo> and by everyone, you mean all the townies who were left
[21:11] <wherebugsgo> and almost all of them were bad to some extent at least lol
[21:11] <wherebugsgo> heist believes any claim
[21:11] <chaosers> um, it was day 2 when he claimed
[21:11] <chaosers> i tihnk
[21:11] <wherebugsgo> no it was later than that
[21:11] <chaosers> day 3
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> all the good townies were dead by that point
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> but anyway
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> I think you're a good player as town
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> which is why I seriously question your motives
[21:12] <wherebugsgo> when you push DB and hiro
[21:12] <chaosers> jesus that was such a shit game...
[21:12] <chaosers> mafia were so stacked with good palyers...
[21:13] <chaosers> jackal things hiro is a good lynch too>
[21:15] <chaosers> mig agrees that peopel who said mafia aren't running in elections is scummy as well?
[21:15] <chaosers> i talke to both of them before i decided on hiro
[21:15] <chaosers> this was after the DB thing
[21:16] <wherebugsgo> 1. the other things that Jackal and Mig have done/said are not quite as scummy as what you have done
[21:16] <chaosers> i was out of it from work
[21:16] <wherebugsgo> 2. they actually have good reasons
[21:16] <wherebugsgo> and can provide them
[21:16] <wherebugsgo> 3. they have some original opinions.
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> I can't find anything that you've said that hadn't already been said by some other person in the game already
[21:17] <chaosers> i've been in the ER for like 15 hours
[21:17] <chaosers> in the past three days
[21:17] <chaosers> + med school classes
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> dude
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> a lot of us have school too
[21:17] <chaosers> i'm sorry that i haven't been puttign in my 100%
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> I don't care what's going on outside of game
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> if that's an issue
[21:17] <chaosers> did you have to hold someone's liver for three hours straight?
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> request a replacement
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> do I care?
[21:17] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:18] <chaosers> apparently you don't
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> this game isn't about sparing who I have the most sympathy for
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> this game is about finding scum and killing them
[21:18] <chaosers> i'm not saying
[21:18] <chaosers> pity me
[21:18] <chaosers> i'm saying
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> certainly sounds like it lol
[21:18] <chaosers> whether i'm scum or not
[21:18] <chaosers> wil lbe clear
[21:18] <chaosers> in a ay or two
[21:18] <chaosers> especailly after elections
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> "oh look at how much work I've been doing irl please let me live"
[21:18] <chaosers> sigh
[21:18] <wherebugsgo> lol
[21:18] <chaosers> your arguement against me
[21:19] <chaosers> is that i'm not playing up to snuff
[21:19] <chaosers> my defense is that i know i'm not
[21:19] <chaosers> and this is the reason why
[21:19] <wherebugsgo> so you think
[21:19] <wherebugsgo> we should lynch hiro/DB instead of you?
[21:19] <wherebugsgo> or Radfield lol
[21:19] <chaosers> i think radfield
[21:19] <chaosers> actually
[21:19] <chaosers> i don't think
[21:19] <chaosers> i nee to reread the thread
[21:19] <chaosers> when i'm not dea tired
[21:19] <chaosers> and then talk to people
[21:19] <wherebugsgo> loool
[21:19] <chaosers> restart the game
[21:20] <wherebugsgo> you have like
[21:20] <wherebugsgo> 24 hours tomorrow
[21:20] <wherebugsgo> it's a saturday
[21:20] <wherebugsgo> if you're really this tired you'll have plenty of time to save yourself!
[21:20] <chaosers> hospitals don't clsoe on weekends btw, but i'll only be busy from 5AM-9AM
[21:21] <chaosers> how old are you -_-
[21:21] <chaosers> to compare school to med school is ridiculous...
[21:21] <wherebugsgo> I'm a physics/linguistics undergrad at UC Berkeley
[21:21] <wherebugsgo> don't try to use the school excuse on me lol
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> I realize that med school is hard
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> but it's a pathetic excuse
[21:22] <chaosers> come to med school, see our 80 hour work week
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> dude
[21:22] <chaosers> that's liek average
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> if you're so bogged down
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> why the hell are you playing mafia?
[21:22] <wherebugsgo> if this is real I can't imagine you're even enjoying the game
[21:22] <chaosers> i wasn't expecting to be this bogge down
[21:22] <chaosers> one of my coworkers
[21:22] <chaosers> is out sick
[21:22] <chaosers> so i had to take their shift for this week
[21:23] <chaosers> i'll be free all of next week
[21:23] <chaosers> from shifts
[21:23] <chaosers> since he'll be back
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> zZz
[21:23] <chaosers> and covering all of mine
[21:23] <chaosers> and no
[21:23] <chaosers> i'm not enjoyign this game
[21:23] <chaosers> rightn ow
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> I would think if you were town you'd probably request replacement lol
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> but whatever
[21:23] <chaosers> you know, you could try being a little bit less of a condescending ass
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> I'm being condescending?
[21:23] <wherebugsgo> rofl
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> I'm not saying I'm better than you
[21:24] <chaosers> with the zZzs and lol's
[21:24] <chaosers> ?
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> I'm just saying this is really underhanded
[21:24] <chaosers> patronizing
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> it's total bullshit IMO
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> to be using IRL excuses in a game of psychology
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> and in fact
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> anyone who does so
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> IMO
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> and then doesn't do anything about it
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> is insta scum
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> you seem to be completely apathetic
[21:24] <chaosers> i am doing somthing about it
[21:24] <wherebugsgo> what, exactly?
[21:24] <chaosers> i talk to gm
[21:24] <chaosers> ed
[21:24] <chaosers> about getting him to replace me
[21:25] <wherebugsgo> GM?
[21:25] <chaosers> but that's outsie the game
[21:25] <wherebugsgo> GM is not hosting this game lol
[21:25] <chaosers> yeah
[21:25] <chaosers> but he said
[21:25] <wherebugsgo> and he's not able to play either
[21:25] <chaosers> he's in charge
[21:25] <chaosers> of somestuff
[21:25] <chaosers> yeah
Other people who would make a good lynch today:
sandroba
prplhz
People who need to die at some point:
Radfield
Meapak
People who are scummy:
supersoft
wiggles
arctocod
People who are null or just plain unreadable atm:
Mig
Syllogism
Jimbo
Scamp
Jackal
hiro
Node
Everyone else is some combination of null/town to me atm. There are a few players I haven't really talked to yet and am not yet concerned about. These players I expect to either be modkilled or to be relevant issues later in the game.
