Kenpachi I'm not scum lol...

Think about it. What about my play other than my wrong reads are consistent with scum play? I've pushed two mislynches, one of which everyone else was in support of anyway.

The day we killed xt (which lots of other people were responsible for as well) and the day we killed sevryn (which everyone can agree was the best lynch that day)

I even asked risk to shoot DB last night because I thought the way risk posted was suggesting he was soft claiming vig:

On October 10 2011 07:11 risk.nuke wrote:
Can I kill wbg now? please?

So now if you're the vig kenpachi, what do you make of this statement?

Then, finally, think about these things:

1. If I was scum do you think I would spend 24+ hours with NC/Incog and draft up reasons and ideas as to why the day 1 lynch was so easy, and try to figure out what was going on? Then, would I come out of nowhere as scum and take all that attention for a case on CURU that was so easily destroyed by Mig's logs?

2. If I was scum do you think I would put so much effort in to PMing everyone after Curu and Mig died to consolidate all my reads?

3. If I was scum do you think I would have this many fucking logs (with literally every player in the game?)

4. If I was scum would I have gone and given everyone my reads when I thought I was about to get shot by Jackal/Forumite?

5. If I was scum would I really spend so much time faking logs with jcarl?

6. If I was scum would I really tie myself to DB?

Come on, think this through. I've done plenty of things this game to show that I'm trying to hunt scum. Yeah, I've been wrong, but being wrong doesn't mean I'm scum.

Forumite

Sweden3280 Posts

October 10 2011 23:23 GMT

#1486

DB defended WBG several times, most importantly when I wanted to lynch WBG yesterday, and he got us to focus on Sevryn again.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

October 10 2011 23:25 GMT

#1487

also if I was scum you really think I would be this transparent?

I've posted every log anyone has asked me for within minutes of being asked. If I have information and someone wants it I will give it to them.

I spent hours on the day barely anyone was here meticulously gathering information on players. Ofc I tired myself out and I didn't have the proper reads because I was focusing too much on actually finding players, but I put in that effort because I was frustrated no one else was being active.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

October 10 2011 23:27 GMT

#1488

On October 11 2011 08:23 Forumite wrote:
DB defended WBG several times, most importantly when I wanted to lynch WBG yesterday, and he got us to focus on Sevryn again.

Yes, DB defended me because he was tying himself to me.

I defended DB because of the information I got from Curu and what DB kept posting in the thread.

Honestly if it was false that DB was looking for a replacement I think that should be some sort of warnable offense. I actually believed DB was more town because he said he was looking for a replacement and was giving me his reads.

Alarm bells should've gone off when he said literally everyone except Sevryn was null, though. I kinda pushed it to the back of my mind since Curu said DB was townish to him and I was getting the same vibe simply based on the fact that DB was talking to me when he said he was looking for a replacement.

That's an assumption I know I'll never make again. Had I ignored that I think I probably would've seen DB was scum.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

October 10 2011 23:32 GMT

#1489

On October 11 2011 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Kenpachi I'm not scum lol...

Think about it. What about my play other than my wrong reads are consistent with scum play? I've pushed two mislynches, one of which everyone else was in support of anyway.

The day we killed xt (which lots of other people were responsible for as well) and the day we killed sevryn (which everyone can agree was the best lynch that day)

I even asked risk to shoot DB last night because I thought the way risk posted was suggesting he was soft claiming vig:

Show nested quote +

yes i do realize this.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

October 10 2011 23:32 GMT

#1490

Also remember that jcarl told me he thought sevryn was townie before he died.

I took that to mean that Sevryn was probably his scum buddy. It wasn't true; sevryn was town.

So, whatever DB said about Nisani we can't trust. If that's what you're basing Nisani being town on, then you need to reevaluate and determine on what basis you consider Nisani to be town.

At this point in time I think risk.nuke is a better lynch than Nisani (or me obviously) but Nisani could very well be scum too if there's nothing else to suggest that he's town other than DB telling you to shoot him.

Forumite

Sweden3280 Posts

October 10 2011 23:33 GMT

#1491

Risk has been tunneling WBG the whole game, lol.

5 speaks in WBGs favor, faking logs might be too much work.

1 speaks against WBG, mig among others thought there must have been a scum behind that case, that it didn´t work doesn´t matter, because NC/xt and Incog got lynched thanks to it. Getting 2 townies lynched for one Scum is decent from Scums perspective, especially as it ties up 3 days of activity and discussion.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

October 10 2011 23:33 GMT

#1492

Interesting...

Did any other vets get SS's reasoning as to why WBG was scum?

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

October 10 2011 23:33 GMT

#1493

kenpachi after I die you have ONE CHANCE to hit scum.

If you're wrong about Nisani then it's game over when you lynch risk.

I realize I will most likely be lynched today, there's literally nothing I can do about it. I might as well warn you now.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

October 10 2011 23:34 GMT

#1494

i know. im re-evaluating

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

October 10 2011 23:34 GMT

#1495

On October 11 2011 08:33 Forumite wrote:
Risk has been tunneling WBG the whole game, lol.

5 speaks in WBGs favor, faking logs might be too much work.

1 speaks against WBG, mig among others thought there must have been a scum behind that case, that it didn´t work doesn´t matter, because NC/xt and Incog got lynched thanks to it. Getting 2 townies lynched for one Scum is decent from Scums perspective, especially as it ties up 3 days of activity and discussion.

Which is real funny cause when we talked risk said he thought I was the fucking detective.