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On September 29 2011 11:40 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 11:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 29 2011 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:On September 29 2011 11:18 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 29 2011 11:10 Jackal58 wrote:
Guess what genius, no it's not.
Sorry NotChezinu I have not seen your cat. soooo lemme get this straight. -you're gonna vote when you "feel like it" + Show Spoiler +sounds like you're scared -you think you've actually contributed something -you have me as #1 scum but I'm not yet worthy of a vote + Show Spoiler +-I'm gonna guess that you'll vote me as soon as some derp townies think I'm a good vote cause they believe that I'm OMGUSing Scared? Of what? This is a game dude. My contribution is the same as your earlier FoS and vote on tnkted. Except your reasoning made little sense in regards to him being scum "because he was going to PM everybody". I make a point about your play and you go nuts. And yes you are OMGUSing me. Big time. But I haven't contributed. Because my FoS is on you. Would my contribution count in your eyes if I had FoSed somebody else? Hard to start up your own bandwagon isn't it? And as far as voting goes I'm going to refrain from doing so for a while because that fact apparently pisses you off.  If you actually provided a reason for FoSing me when asked that'd be a contribution.
I told everyone in the thread why I suspect tnkted (and still do actually) Also, anyone who thinks my vote on you is an OMGUS should seriously consider rereading the thread. Look at when I vote you. I vote you once I realize that Palmar's argument that you're following your scum meta is dead on, and that you haven't contributed anything. When I voted you, you still didn't contribute anything. Finally, my vote can't possibly be OMGUS when you didn't vote me to begin with. You're not pressuring me, you're not asking me questions, you're not doing anything, actually. OMGUS="oh my god you suck (for voting for me)" and I don't see how my vote can be OMGUS when you never voted me! I provided one. You just don't like it. For somebody claiming to be a townie you're sure throwing quite a fit. A scummy fit.
Really?
Me making sense doesn't really sound like a valid reason for me to be mafia.
That actually sounds like a valid reason for me to be town!
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There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire)
Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it:
Curu
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066
Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR.
Sevryn:
On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu
The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment.
However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well.
I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking.
risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is.
None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed.
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On September 29 2011 11:51 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu are you part of mafia? such weak arguments are scum tell in defense of Jackal. If Jackal mafia, you mafia. comprendo?
you need to put your vote in the voting thread if it's a serious vote, otherwise you're on my watchlist too
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On September 29 2011 12:05 Sevryn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire) Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it: Curuhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR. Sevryn:On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment. However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well. I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking. risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is. None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed. In my opinion if there isnt a clear scum day one we should focus on scummy lurkers. NC is just that hes trolling the thread making chaos and not really contributing. Assuming worst case scenario we will be in a LyLo at somepoint and when that happens I would prefer it to be with people who I can read.
NC is not scummy and he's not a lurker either
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On September 29 2011 12:09 Sevryn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 12:06 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 29 2011 12:05 Sevryn wrote:On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire) Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it: Curuhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR. Sevryn:On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment. However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well. I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking. risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is. None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed. In my opinion if there isnt a clear scum day one we should focus on scummy lurkers. NC is just that hes trolling the thread making chaos and not really contributing. Assuming worst case scenario we will be in a LyLo at somepoint and when that happens I would prefer it to be with people who I can read. NC is not scummy and he's not a lurker either Im saying hes effectively a lurker because the reason lurkers are bad is because you cant read them. I cant read him one way or the other because all of his posts are trolling/songs/poems
you could say that about half the players in this game, bar the singing perhaps.
You can't read any of the players I wrote about in the post you quoted (which, btw, includes you)
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On September 29 2011 12:08 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire) Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it: Curuhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR. Sevryn:On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment. However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well. I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking. risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is. None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed. rofl
sup Erandor, mind doing something productive?
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Oh look Curu showed up when he was called out
too bad that tells us nothing about you, Curu. You gotta do what I asked of Erandor too.
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I dunno, do you have a reason?
Are you gonna vote me?
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okay, let's hear it.
Seeing as we haven't really seen any reasons from you yet.
Unless, of course, you count past coincidence as a reason
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wait wut how do we have an extended day?
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On September 29 2011 12:18 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 29 2011 12:08 Erandorr wrote:On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire) Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it: Curuhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR. Sevryn:On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment. However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well. I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking. risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is. None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed. rofl sup Erandor, mind doing something productive? Allright : Bugs first says "Jackal isnt worth my attention " then Jackal votes bug Bugs then says " OMG FUCK YOU SCUM" Bugs then tunnels and is ultra defensive Bugs gets called out on that Bugs then says "naaah that dude isnt worth my attention imma concentrate on a newbie and a lurker" = either bad town play or bad scum play = rofl I am going to bed , good night everyone
fail Jackal never voted me
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seriously you guys are hilarious.
you don't even know what OMGUS is. It's really quite funny
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On September 29 2011 12:24 Erandorr wrote:
oh and for now ##Vote bugs so you can OMGUS me and do have to rage about all those newbs misusing that apparantly very strictly defined term <3
townie #2
how many more before Jackal votes me?
taking bets now
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On September 29 2011 12:28 Incognito wrote:
Dear town, please ignore wherebugsgo. If he starts making sense and stops making a bunch of baseless assumptions maybe I'll start listening to him. Until then, he's just taking up space and has 1/6 of all the posts in this thread. None of them are very interesting.
Also stop using gimmicky words like "OMGUS" and "meta". They're mostly meaningless terms people tack onto their "analyses" to make them look legitimate. I am not going to tolerate this nonsense. Unless you make some real arguments I will just ignore you or squish you like a bug, depending on how ridiculous you are.
I'm so scared bro
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Also I'm curious incog, what are these "baseless assumptions" I seem to be making?
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I'll be in class for another hour starting in 10
Curu looks townish to me. If we lynch palmar and he flips town then we need to reconsider Curu, but based on his behavior I can't say he looks scummy.
Palmar looks scummy despite alignment so blah. He's made sense this game to me.
Thus, I still prefer Jackal. If anyone knows something I don't please let me know.
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On September 30 2011 02:49 DropBear wrote:I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics. I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle. The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet. The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt  Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion. I want to lynch Sevryn.
What game other than XLIV have you seen my play?
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On September 30 2011 03:24 Sevryn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 02:54 DropBear wrote:
Sevryn is voting NotChezinu for trolling. This coming after he spent about half his posts rhyming and rapping.
He claims Chezinu is a lurker. Deflecting lynches onto lurkers is pro-mafia play.
No other contributions at all beside rapping and Chezinu needs to die cos he's a lurker. Voting Sevryn. Im voting chezinu because I dont want to get into a situation where We cant read someone we need to be able to get a read on because he hasnt opened his role PM to be honest thats kind of going against the rules to play to win how can someone play to win if they dont know their own win condition. It is most def not town. now you might ask why i dont lynch someone else and you yourself said the main lynches are not very good so why not use day one to help make it so if we get LyLo we have a fighting chance
Actually tbh you're way more scummy than Chez is.
You don't comment on any of the main lynch targets at all.
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On September 30 2011 03:28 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 03:12 DropBear wrote:Oh for. I should never have made that stupid account. On September 30 2011 02:57 Erandorr wrote:On September 30 2011 02:49 DropBear wrote:I don't like the bugs lynch. He is being spammy and annoying and doing bad OMGUS votes. I've seen him play in 2 games before this, both as town and he was spammy and annoying in those and did bad OMGUS votes. Yes it is OMGUS. He claims you are scum, then you vote him. Semantics about him not actually voting are semantics. I have completely no idea how to read Palmar since he abused the hell out of me in XLIV as town and his derailing of Lord of the Rings. His Jackal vote was weak as hell but then most of his early reads are poor so I'm not sure what to think yet. The headbutting with Curu is just an ego battle. The Chezinu lynch is bad cos he is renowned for playing like a wierdo and supposedly hasn't even opened his role PM yet. The Jackal lynch is bad cos he's always quiet on day 1. I fail to see how he has claimed mute. It is true that he hasn't replied to my PM but then PMing me got him killed in Werewolves so I understand, even though I'm hurt Basically all the lynches with more than 1 vote on them at the moment are poor in my opinion. I want to lynch Sevryn. What? So you are saying nothing at all with your first real post and then want to lynch someone while giving no reason or any form of analysis? Have you made an effort reading this thread? Mig provided some really strong analysis on Palmar, and while I dont like the way Curu has been posting , right now I think Palmar is our best shot at lynching scum today. ##Unvote ## Vote Palmar Yes I have read the thread. Mig's prime argument against Palmar is that he is a better player than his play in this game. My personal experience is that in fact his early play sucks in this game because his early play sucks in general. This is the guy who was renowned for shooting DTs we are talking about, plus his play in the last 2 games I've been involved in, once as town and once third party, was erratic and disruptive too. I much prefer to lynch Sevryn than Palmar. Hmm I need to look closer at Sev then , but you have seen his town play , right? I would say we can give him a couple of more days instead of going for the really easy kill on someone who is known for being scummy as hell when town.
This I agree with, but the only problem is that Sevryn just refuses to look at any of the main lynch targets (myself, Jackal, Curu, Palmar) all of his posts are dismissive whenever someone asks him about them.
We have like 4 hours left? Right?
This also raises the issue of, why are we splitting the vote so late in the day? This is why I disagree with DB's vote on Sevryn. You're not gonna get him lynched if he's mafia, there's too little time to switch a lynch now.
Note Jackal has disappeared since our little spat. He hasn't posted once. He might be active in PM land and only those who have been in contact with him would know, but it's fairly clear that he's going to make his vote and opinions clear at a time of day that is so late that none of us can question it and discuss it.
Likewise, I'm uncomfortable with Incognito disappearing but being active in PMs, also without a vote or public discussion. Multiple players can come in before the deadline and just vote with fake or minimal justification and just ruin hours of day 1 build up in one fell swoop.
This is why I think it's imperative that suspicions be backed up with votes. Townies shouldn't be afraid of putting their vote on someone. It's a validification of your suspicions and if you have a good case you should welcome the attention that it brings so you can clarify yourself. Mafia don't like clarifying themselves for obvious reasons so they're more likely to vote with minimal justification or vote late in the day so they can slip in without too much suspicion.
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Yo Palmar which host sent you your PM?
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