EPTSurprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VI - Page 10
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
in that case: ##Vote Edwin5 There's a bunch of people voting with space. I copy & pasted it from raynpelikoneet and everyone else probably copy & pasted it from me, so my bad | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
##Vote Edwin5 | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
 Less modkills is always awesome I guess | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 29 2011 10:15 Ciryandor wrote: Edwin5 hasn't even posted anywhere else, so I'd rather call him as absent than as lurking. And SERIOUSLY, why are we going to jump on him? I would really recommend pushing on someone who we are sure has at least shown activity after the game started. Let the GM do the modkill on him if he isn't active. I'll switch to Edwin only if you can convince me of why we're voting him off instead of letting a mod-kill happen. I was voting him to get him post, that's why I also said said i won't be around here when the day ends (which was anyways true). Wasn't the day supposed to end Thursday 5AM (CAT, +2 GMT)? If the day really continues, we need to think about our voting more. Ciryandor, isn't it better to vote someone who's gonna be modkilled, than some random person, given that at least I have no clue who could be scum? People seriously need to post more, this way we are pretty sure gonna lynch a townie, mafia is gonna kill a townie over night, and when day 2 begins, we are in a pretty much same situation that we were in day 1, and there are 2 dead townies. :/ | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On September 29 2011 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I was voting him to get him post, that's why I also said said i won't be around here when the day ends (which was anyways true). Wasn't the day supposed to end Thursday 5AM (CAT, +2 GMT)? If the day really continues, we need to think about our voting more. Ciryandor, isn't it better to vote someone who's gonna be modkilled, than some random person, given that at least I have no clue who could be scum? People seriously need to post more, this way we are pretty sure gonna lynch a townie, mafia is gonna kill a townie over night, and when day 2 begins, we are in a pretty much same situation that we were in day 1, and there are 2 dead townies. :/ It's better to vote a potentially active (i.e. someone who has at least shown forum activity since the game started) person if the votes threaten to put them onto the lynch threshold, because this would force a response from them. This way, we get information from them and we can still get an inactive either via a late swing or a modkill. One can always lynch someone under pressure if they crack and do scumslips. And your reply screams scumslip, the sentences are awkward as hell to read anyway. | ||
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JoshKirby
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On September 29 2011 18:18 Ciryandor wrote: It's better to vote a potentially active (i.e. someone who has at least shown forum activity since the game started) person if the votes threaten to put them onto the lynch threshold, because this would force a response from them. This way, we get information from them and we can still get an inactive either via a late swing or a modkill. One can always lynch someone under pressure if they crack and do scumslips. I agree, since lynching a player who will be mod-killed is like performing a no-lynch this round. In the worst (and likely) case, the inactive player is a townie. Then there are 3 mafia and 8 townies tomorrow night. If everything goes well for mafia, they can win after 2 day cycles. If we lynch an active player, then there are 3 mafia and 7 townies tomorrow night. If everything goes well for mafia, they still have to play 2 day cycles. Furthermore, the detective has a better chance of finding a mafioso since there are less people to consider, and the doctor has a greater chance of saving someone. The downsides to killing an active player are 1) If there's a doctor they get one extra chance to save in the worst-case scenario. The chance of succeeding in that save is small, though (1/6). 2) We might kill the doctor/detective, and revealing their role probably won't help them since in 2/3rds of the setups they're by themselves and will get killed during the night. There's at most a 2/11 chance of that happening, though. Toadesstern is the only active player who's gotten a vote, so I'll vote for him this round. ##UNVOTE ##VOTE Toadesstern | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
So the edwin vote was to get some information, sure as mentioned it's np to vote for him as mafia as quoted earlier, because he is not participating until now but it may have produced errors from mafia. This is a noob game after all. Let's say we got 6 or 7 on edwin, he ends up being mafia and someone from mafia screws up and changes votes, which would be pretty awesome for us. I though that this might be the only chance to get something out of our votes by than given that there were only 3 hours left, even if the chances to get this lucky are so slim, still better than having everone on a spreaded vote where mafia can do what they want and can't actually make a mistake. This day one 72hours obviousy screws with this idea since we could get a normal lynch which is better. Think what you want about it, talk about it and discuss it. I will take a little nap and will contine reading in a few hours. So to sum it up we got something from zany that sounds stupid in a beginners game and the just posted statement from JoshKirby . I mean really? we got 2 or 3 people who are trying to get some activity. Activity is good for town and you want to lynch someone active because he's active? I know that this is a beginners game but srsly, This is totally scum logic. They try to go for blues on day 1 which is going to be hard given there's so few town active, if they can't they're going for someone you gets the activity going because that's so valuable to town as well. Right now the only reads in my opinion are on zany and josh, don't know if I forgot something or if my logic is flawed. I still think the post from zany could be a town-mistake, as could the josh post but I think joshs the bigger one. If we get a vote on one of those two I'm all about it and will change my vote in no time. If we get a vote on a lurker, fine too. ##UNVOTE Edwin5 ##VOTE JoshKirby | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
As mentioned a lot of people got a space in between those # and vote and copy&pasted. Also a lot of people only wrote unvote while unvote Player is required. At least that's the reason why zanys switch to edwin wasn't counted I think. So I'm not sure if joshs voting is correct, too, because he only has unvote without my name. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On September 29 2011 19:39 JoshKirby wrote: I agree, since lynching a player who will be mod-killed is like performing a no-lynch this round. In the worst (and likely) case, the inactive player is a townie. Then there are 3 mafia and 8 townies tomorrow night. If everything goes well for mafia, they can win after 2 day cycles. If we lynch an active player, then there are 3 mafia and 7 townies tomorrow night. If everything goes well for mafia, they still have to play 2 day cycles. Furthermore, the detective has a better chance of finding a mafioso since there are less people to consider, and the doctor has a greater chance of saving someone. The downsides to killing an active player are 1) If there's a doctor they get one extra chance to save in the worst-case scenario. The chance of succeeding in that save is small, though (1/6). 2) We might kill the doctor/detective, and revealing their role probably won't help them since in 2/3rds of the setups they're by themselves and will get killed during the night. There's at most a 2/11 chance of that happening, though. Toadesstern is the only active player who's gotten a vote, so I'll vote for him this round. ##UNVOTE ##VOTE Toadesstern Why not zany? What do you think of him anyway, given that he's the only real read in terms of voting we have really got? And do explain the ratios? [b]GM: Are we presuming that since this is a 12 person game that option 2 in the role set-up is out of the question, as it is made for an 11 person game? | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
GM: Are we presuming that since this is a 12 person game that option 2 in the role set-up is out of the question, as it is made for an 11 person game? | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On September 30 2011 00:01 Ciryandor wrote: EBWOP: GM: Are we presuming that since this is a 12 person game that option 2 in the role set-up is out of the question, as it is made for an 11 person game? That was just me screwing up, it should add up to 12 people, fixing it now. also the vote format is ##Vote: GMarshal since someone asked | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 29 2011 18:18 Ciryandor wrote: It's better to vote a potentially active (i.e. someone who has at least shown forum activity since the game started) person if the votes threaten to put them onto the lynch threshold, because this would force a response from them. This way, we get information from them and we can still get an inactive either via a late swing or a modkill. One can always lynch someone under pressure if they crack and do scumslips. And your reply screams scumslip, the sentences are awkward as hell to read anyway. You are right. I wasn't thinking people would follow me in my Edwin vote, as i said i just wanted him to post at least something. That is also why i said, that if the day continues, we should think about our votes again (becouse he turned out to be inactive). But yeah, basically what you said in the paragraph i bolded, is true. What i was thinking i agree is wrong. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 30 2011 00:00 Ciryandor wrote: Why not zany? What do you think of him anyway, given that he's the only real read in terms of voting we have really got? And do explain the ratios? I will vote on zany as well if we get something there, no problem, still got 11 hours to discuss this :p I think right now both zany and josh are equally "scummy" because both made no sense with what they said earlier. Zanys still lacking the answer but changed his vote, although with a wrong format. I still got the feeling this could have been a mistake and sure if he were the only one I would be all over him because that'd be all we got and we could not hold back. However we got that post from josh as well. But yeah, both sound silly. Either way, if there's not going to be a good damn explanation by those two I'm going to try to get both lynched, no matter in what order unless there's something that really screams scum from someone else. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
##Unvote I'm off to a pubquiz now, i need to make up my mind tonight when i'm back. | ||
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