EPTSurprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VI - Page 16
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On October 07 2011 04:01 GMarshal wrote: This pretty much. I was saving the speil for the banlist, but chaoser beat me to it. It boils down to exploiting out of game mechanics. ... Nowhere in the rules does it say I can not role claim, nor does it say that I can't pretend that someone who is town is mafia. In fact, that would be good gameplay. My technique may have been unique to the situation, and perhaps very unexpected, but considering mafia is a game of deception, I think I was playing just fine. I was not trying to lose, I was trying to win through this special tactic. Whitera would approve, and you guys shouldn't mind that your players do unexpected things. If everyone followed a cookie cutter mafia style, mafia'd be pretty boring, and this mafia WAS pretty boring except for rayn and I's actions. Now, rayn's actions were bad because he was intentionally trying to lose, and he admits that. I was NOT trying to lose. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
By allowing what you did opens the door for Town players to say "I am Mafia, this is my team" and then by pointing out that he did not get modkilled confirm himself as Town. It just opens up a Pandora's Box of possible shit that is gaming the host and not actually playing the game. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Another grey area situation I can forsee is when you know you are going to be lynched and want to "out" the identities of a Serial Killer or rival mafia team member. It technically might further your own win condition, but it could get sticky with a situation like Curu mentioned. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Nowhere in the rules does it say I can not role claim, nor does it say that I can't pretend that someone who is town is mafia. Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to): 2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town. and probably this one applies too 7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip. Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe. It's not unique and unexpected. It's breaking the rules by forcing the host into a situation of modkilling. The OP clearly states that handing out your mafia member list is cheating and will be severely punished. If you had actually handed out your list you would be automatically banned. If you hand out a fake list after claiming you are mafia, you are clearly forcing the host into deciding whether to modkill you or not. You didn't actually break any rules since you didn't out a real list and so technically you can't be modkilled but then that "non-modkill" can be seen by town as a "Mod Confirm" that you did nothing wrong aka you are townie. If every single townie did that then the game becomes about being modkilled. Your tactic involved circumventing the rules and that doesn't fly here. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
Rayn just messed up and is dead I'm going to get lynched If toad survives the night he'll win the game for mafia (at this stage we didn't know if there was a medic or detective) UNLESS I go out saying toad is mafia, then he will be under suspicion tomorrow and josh has a good chance of winning. And I was right. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On October 07 2011 08:17 zany_001 wrote: Rest assured I didn't intend to bring about the situation mentioned; the thought didn't even cross my mind that townies could claim mafia to confirm them being town. My thought patten was along the lines of this: Rayn just messed up and is dead I'm going to get lynched If toad survives the night he'll win the game for mafia (at this stage we didn't know if there was a medic or detective) UNLESS I go out saying toad is mafia, then he will be under suspicion tomorrow and josh has a good chance of winning. And I was right. No you weren't, Toad was shot the night immediately after you died. Therefore, it was obvious you were bsing and your claim didn't actually affect the lynch the next day. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
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