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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 04:46:06
October 03 2011 04:45 GMT
#261
Day 2 Final Votecount

zany_001 (4)
JoshKirby
Toadesstern
Zanfada
jish17

Modkills: (3)
Thnikkaman47
FranzP
zany_001

Night Post INCOMING

literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 04:49:58
October 03 2011 04:49 GMT
#262
Night 2

Yeah, I'm still handing out modkills.

Thnikkaman47, FranzP, and zany_001 have been modkilled for inactivity.
zany_001 (goon)'s corpse was also stepped on by an angry mob... of 4.


please pm night actions to me and gm
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 03 2011 10:19 GMT
#263
Oh wow I forgot to vote...lucky inactive town...
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
October 03 2011 10:26 GMT
#264
On October 03 2011 13:49 sinani206 wrote:
Night 2

Yeah, I'm still handing out modkills.

Thnikkaman47, FranzP, and zany_001 have been modkilled for inactivity.
zany_001 (goon)'s corpse was also stepped on by an angry mob... of 4.


please pm night actions to me and gm


That ...of 4 really got me Sinani :D
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 03 2011 13:39 GMT
#265
who's still alive?
Really thought the third's going to be either thnikkaman47 or FranzP. Would be awesome if we could get an update on page 1 :p

That's kinda stupid. Mafia probably will kill someone tonight until we got a hero medic. That way it is 2 town 1 mafia and we have to get a 100% sure mafia lynch or we're dead. Just saying :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 03 2011 13:45 GMT
#266
Oh btw, since there seems to be no roleblocker, we have to have a medic or a dt and I'm just going to repeat what I said earlier:

Medic try to save who you think is the most likely to get killed by mafia.
DT try to stay low, don't let you get killed by mafia and just check the guy and kill him on day3.

Don't know which of those 2 is what we got but we one should be right :p

Medic or DT would have flipped blue instead of green right?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
October 03 2011 20:10 GMT
#267
On October 03 2011 22:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh btw, since there seems to be no roleblocker, we have to have a medic or a dt and I'm just going to repeat what I said earlier:

Medic try to save who you think is the most likely to get killed by mafia.
DT try to stay low, don't let you get killed by mafia and just check the guy and kill him on day3.

Don't know which of those 2 is what we got but we one should be right :p

Medic or DT would have flipped blue instead of green right?

yes, all green flips are Vanilla Townies

Medics would flip
GMarshal the Medic has been brutally stabbed
or
GMarshal the Detective has drowned in paperwork
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 03 2011 22:32 GMT
#268
[image loading]


Ok let's see what we can get out of a thread that has literally nothing...
going to change vote-formates, to not screw with hosts strg+f.

First of all: All four of us voted for edwin on day 1 I think (did not check that actually), switched to zany on day 1.5 and voted for zany on day 2.
So nothing there to be found.

I'm going to make 3 major spoilers. One for each of you to get things organized. First spoiler is stuff about zanfa, second one stuff about josh, third one is stuff about jish. Easy isn't it?
-------------Zanfa------
+ Show Spoiler +
1)
On September 30 2011 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh, and i'm going for Zanfada tonight..

*vote* Zanfada

confirmed mafia voted for zanfada. Could be nothing as he should know that we're not going to get a lynch on Zanfada but I don't think he got the balls to post that if zanfas was red all along. Could be a tell that zanfada is green but noting confirmed.

2)
On September 29 2011 04:58 Zanfada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 10:51 Toadesstern wrote:
I just reread the set-ups and I'm not sure if that thing is correct or a typo so I'll quote:
Set Up:
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town

3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town.
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town.


Those 2 bottom ones look perfectly "balanced " between each other, 3 goons vs either 1medi+8 town OR 3 goons vs 1 dt+8 town. Looks good, 3 red, both times the same vs 8green+1blue on both.
However the first 2 are kinda crazy if you ask me.
It's either mafia vs 7 town + 1medic + 1dt or it's mafia vs 9 towns. So basicly, while red teams stays exactly the same again, town might play with 7 greens and 2 blues or with no blues at all.

This is my first ever mafia so I don't know if I'm talking bullshit right now, I just read it once again to get a view thougths about it and it seems strange to me so I'm asking about it. That one option is basicly just the same, except that it seems to be "weaker" in every possible aspect
Is there a reason for this? For example, take the 2nd one, if red turns out to be 3 guys playing for the first time, while town got all of those 2nd, or 3rd time players (i.e "buffin red 'cause they're 'bunch of noobs")? Or ist it a type and the second one needs to be buffed?


from that post it would seem that Toadesstern cares about the game yet he hasn't posted at all. It seems like he is either not caring/playing or not contributing/lurkering

*vote* Toadesstern

*vote* Toadesstern

Totally legit. I haven't made a single post at that point of time. An awesome analysis and really pro town.

3)
On September 30 2011 04:17 Zanfada wrote:
*unvote*: Toadesstern
*vote*: zany_001


my vote for Toadesstern was to get him join us, which he has. I mentioned zany earlier about his half assed clue thing which did strike as an odd post more fluff then anything (scum tell.) Then he joins the kill Edwin group for no real reason other then to kill anyone. The kill edwin group grew rather fast and I think it was mostly mafia trying to blend in and pick off an easy kill without drawing to much attention. Zany still hasnt responded to anything really. So I would like to hear thoughts ans suspicions on what has been going on in the game so far. Till then he has my vote.


Again, could be a smart mafia seeing that his vote on zany is not going to matter but this really looks like town. The zany vote could have happened on day1 with a bit luck and a possible-modkill getting active on the last voting day. So if he's mafia he got balls of steel and showed us an awesome game :p

4)
On September 28 2011 03:30 Zanfada wrote:
Hi all,

This is my first time playing mafia but I have played werewolf a few times so I am not a total newb.

@raynpelikoneet I think there is an advantage personally playing with someone before because you have actually interacted and not read the manuscript of what was said. However we are getting sidetracked.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 22:55 zany_001 wrote:
Assuming this game has clues (the OP seems to imply it may or may not have clues?)There are 17 red words in the day post, and one of the players is jish17.

AAAND that's about all I could find, so for now,
*vote*: jish17
hopefully some other clues are found, I doubt i'm very good at clue analysis.


zany implies there are clues in a half assed way, either he is a stupid town wanting to get us to start talking about nonexistent clues or he is a mafia looking to side track us with stupid nonexistent clues. I am going to be watching him more closely.

Again a nice post from Zanfa. He says he's going to have an eye on zany and that could easily mean someone else is wondering what zany's doing as well. So another post that sounds like town from zanfa.

-------------Josh-----
+ Show Spoiler +

1)
I still got a grudge on Josh for trying to get a lynch on me with this stupid math thingy which was wrong (except for the part "let's kill someone who's not getting modkilled).
As far as I am concerned I looked preeeeeetty much town at that point, like a 90% sure town and still he went for me for the sake of getting a lynch. He could easily go for zany in the first place (as we had a vote on him already I think) or established something on his own, like I did with my edwin vote to get at least a bit of information out of voting behaviors rather than the actual lynch itself as it was a modkill-lynch.
So he still looks kind of scummy to me. I totally ignored it since going for zany+rayne was way easier and afterwards just going for whoever did not vote for them (thnika and franzp) sounded way more scummy. So he's back on my radar for that post.

2)
Jish and Josh both were the last to switch to zany on day1. That could be a mafia waiting to see how many votes he got and decide whether it's safe to vote zany or not.


-------------Jish-----
+ Show Spoiler +
1)
On September 30 2011 10:06 jish17 wrote:
You rebel scum!
*vote* zany_001


Actually I don't know what that was meant to be. When he said "you rebel scum" was he talking about zany because of his vote or was he talking about raynes scumslip just one post above him?
If it was meant to be a "rayne, you rebel scum" it sounds green, if it was directed towards zany it's nothing, really.

2)
Jish and Josh both were the last to switch to zany on day1. That could be a mafia waiting to see how many votes he got and decide whether it's safe to vote zany or not.

3)
On October 02 2011 11:56 jish17 wrote:
Pretty obvious...

##Vote: zany_001

jish being last to vote for zany. Also sounds kinda frustrated in my opinion, could be about how stupid this game is as well... (see what I did here ? :p )

4)
On September 27 2011 22:55 zany_001 wrote:
Assuming this game has clues (the OP seems to imply it may or may not have clues?)There are 17 red words in the day post, and one of the players is jish17.

*vote* jish17
hopefully some other clues are found, I doubt i'm very good at clue analysis.

Probably one of the more important quotes. It's not about the clue thing but about his vote! He voted for jish. Now we all know zany turned out to be red and mafia wants town to get a town-lynch. Why would he (a confirmed mafia!) push for jish when he's actually red? That either makes no sense or it was a brilliant set up by mafia. You know, zany could have known all along there where no clues, once gm told him there are no clues -> he was sure noone would follow him on a vote -> he can switch np and have his mafia buddy preeeeetty safed for all game unless he screwes up. Not gonna lie, I'm going with the easier explanation, the first one which means jish looks to be town.


So that's about it. One of us is going to die tonight unless we got the hero-medic and no dt. I want you at least to read it and make up your mind.

In my opnion Zanfa and I am town 99%. That leaves jish and josh. All I got from josh is that one math post that sounds stupid. Jish on the other hand has multiple things that make him look a little scummy.
I'm not sure if I'm right here but I think it's all we got here. If I die tonight and flip green you guys know what I said was an honest interpretation and no mafia shit trying to get you vote one someone else.
If you want to know if I'm town or mafia before I flip, analyse what I said so far... I'm not going to do that for you as well.
Knowing what I just posted I might as well make a last statement about the activity. Although it was very low all the way through. Jish turned out to post the fewest out of us 4. Now I did a hell lot of posts to get you guys talking which pretty much failed. Josh and zanfa both did a couple of posts, while zanfas turned out to be really good and joshs ... well I don't know could have been helpful it just turned out he wanted to lynch me and maybe that's why I don't like those because I know for sure they're wrong but maybe it makes sense from another perspective.
Well and jish just posted pretty much nothing except his votes. Both zanfas and josh votes turned out to be a vote + explanation, at least a couple of lines. Now jishs posts most times (it's kinda hard to find any at all) turned out to be a one-liner or a vote plus a one-liner.

According to my search that's actually all he ever said:+ Show Spoiler +

On September 30 2011 10:06 jish17 wrote:
You rebel scum!
##Vote: zany_001

On October 02 2011 11:56 jish17 wrote:
Pretty obvious...

##Vote: zany_001


So my final conclusion:
- I know I am town ( :p )
- I think Zanfa is town 99% and I'm not 100% sure about those other 2 guys

- Jish got one read that makes him look pretty green to me. And since it's from a dead mafia that's a pretty heavy one. But he looks way more scummy with everything else and lurking hardcore.

- Josh looks a little scummy to me but got nothing that really makes him look green.


Guess one of those 2 is our medic/dt while the other guy is mafia and it's up to the two guys remaining to try and figure it out where my analysis was wrong or incomplete. Zanfa totally could be our medic/dt as well since noone really postet a lot but in that scenario it's either jishs townplay or joshs townplay that ended up hurting town the most.
So guys go ahead and claim detective or medic like 1 hour before the night/day change with a list of what you did night 1 and night 2! If you're a medic I want to know why the fuck you did not protect cyri on night1. And no, "I was roleblocked" is not a plausible excuse because you would have had to tell us you got roleblocked that day. You could easily have made it look like you're a VT who got roleblocked out of the blue (or perhaps red :p ).

I'm going to bed now. Lets hope we see tomorrow again :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Zanfada
Profile Joined May 2010
United States53 Posts
October 03 2011 23:12 GMT
#269
If I am killed tonight I figured I would give me thoughts.

First is Toadesstern, A slow start to the game but after that he has leading the discussion and kept the town moving forward. I have a hard time thinking he is mafia but in his last post he posted nothing but good things about me which from other games like this that I have played usually means they are mafia trying to befriend a town. Or he just believes (rightfully so) that I am town.

Next is JoshKirby, He posted a lot of numerical analysis which is easy for mafia to hide behind. I see the posts more as a way to say something that might be helpful. I am leaning town on him but I would like to see what he thinks of everyone who is left.

Finally we have jish17; He hasn't said anything besides voting for zany twice. Also Zany did his stupid clue thing towards jish and that was obviously not going to get anyone voting for jish keeping him safe. Also

On September 30 2011 10:06 jish17 wrote:
You rebel scum!
##Vote: zany_001


Rebel scum is just standing out really weird to me and has been for the last couple of days.

My read on jish is the same as toad's but that is because he has posted 2 lines and the only vote his way was a retarded one.


Right now I think jish is the most likely to be mafia and that Josh is most likely town. With Toad falling in between them.



sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:20:57
October 04 2011 03:19 GMT
#270
Day 3


It was a dark and stormy night.
Toadesstern was at home alone and he was assaulted by a cloaked man.

Toadesstern the Dectective has died.

lylo... lol
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 04 2011 03:56 GMT
#271
crap, tried to make mafia lynch a lurker all day with those "we got to have a lurking dt or medic" things, turns out it didn't work.

GL for town from now on, we still got this in our/your hands so make it work!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
jish17
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia7 Posts
October 04 2011 04:31 GMT
#272
If I was mafia why would zany who we know is mafia push so hard for me to be lynched on day one? That doesn't really make sense.
JoshKirby
Profile Joined September 2011
13 Posts
October 04 2011 05:02 GMT
#273
On October 04 2011 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
1)
I still got a grudge on Josh for trying to get a lynch on me with this stupid math thingy which was wrong (except for the part "let's kill someone who's not getting modkilled).


It could be wrong in some way, but Toadesstern never gave a good reason why. Toadesstern posted that it was wrong because that would mean that town should keep lynching townies. The post actually said that, in the worst case, we'd keep lynching townies (on accident), and that we'd have a better chance of getting out of the worst case if we lynched somebody who wasn't going to get modkilled.

On October 04 2011 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
As far as I am concerned I looked preeeeeetty much town at that point, like a 90% sure town and still he went for me for the sake of getting a lynch. He could easily go for zany in the first place (as we had a vote on him already I think) or established something on his own, like I did with my edwin vote to get at least a bit of information out of voting behaviors rather than the actual lynch itself as it was a modkill-lynch.


1) Unless you do something weird like zany then "looking like town" on the first day is meaningless. Mafia wants to look like town too, and there's very little information to call their bluff.
2) zany did not have a vote for him. A few posts above my vote was the following:
On September 29 2011 14:14 sinani206 wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

jish17 (1)
zany_001

Toadesstern (1)
Zanfada

Sknowman (1)
FranzP


Followed by two more votes for Ediwn5. There were also a couple votes for Edwin5 above that post which didn't get recorded.
3) I said the reason why I voted for Toadesstern in the same post:
On September 29 2011 19:39 JoshKirby wrote:
Toadesstern is the only active player who's gotten a vote, so I'll vote for him this round.


On October 04 2011 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
2)
Jish and Josh both were the last to switch to zany on day1. That could be a mafia waiting to see how many votes he got and decide whether it's safe to vote zany or not.


This is reasonable. However, I stated that I would vote for zany if people would actually vote for him (so that we could lynch a player who wouldn't be modkilled), and I ended up voting for him in the same day. It's a coincidence that I ended up switching after another person did.

On October 04 2011 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
In my opnion Zanfa and I am town 99%.


This makes me think that Toadesstern inspected Zanfada and found he was clean, but didn't want to say it so that the mafia wouldn't target him. If that's true, then jish17 has to be mafia. We don't have a lot of information on him except that he voted for zany twice, so I can't tell what he is.
There's almost certainly no roleblocker (because no one claimed to be roleblocked yesterday), so we probably have no doctor. That would mean that we must lynch somebody today. I'm voting for jish17 unless he can convince me otherwise.

##Vote jish17
JoshKirby
Profile Joined September 2011
13 Posts
October 04 2011 05:06 GMT
#274
On October 04 2011 13:31 jish17 wrote:
If I was mafia why would zany who we know is mafia push so hard for me to be lynched on day one? That doesn't really make sense.


This is pretty confusing, but zany did a lot of weird things. What are your thoughts on the current situation, jish17?
jish17
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia7 Posts
October 04 2011 08:15 GMT
#275
I agree with josh's thinking. Toadesstern would have checked out zanfada and found him a townie. But Josh. I think your looking pretty scummy, Trying to get me lynched when like I said before. If I was mafia why would zany push so hard to get me lynched on day 1. If toadestern checked out zanfada that leaves you and me. And I know I'm town so ur the scum.

##Vote: Joshkirby
JoshKirby
Profile Joined September 2011
13 Posts
October 04 2011 15:44 GMT
#276
I don't know why zany pushed for you (or why he did most of his actions), but if Toadesstern checked Zanfada and found that he was clean, then since I'm town you have to be mafia.
It's up to Zanfada to decide now.
Zanfada
Profile Joined May 2010
United States53 Posts
October 04 2011 18:12 GMT
#277
Jish, I am leaning towards voting for you. You have not said much the whole game. Infact you only said 4 lines in the first 2 days, why talk so little? It seems like scum lurking to me and unless you make a good argument vs Josh I am voting for you, Jish.
jish17
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia7 Posts
October 05 2011 00:18 GMT
#278
Because I'm in a different time zone maybe? By the time I'm actually awake there was nothing to say. On day one I'd already stopped being targeted so there was no need to defend myself. Just vote. Josh has done some pretty good scum lurking if u ask me. If he is mafia all he has to do is get rid of me or zanfada. And he is clutching at straws by trying to pin it on me. How can I be mafia when I was the first person targeted for lynching by known scum? If I was mafia why would they try and make it so much easier for town to win by lynching one of there own day 1. They wouldn't it doesn't make sense.
JoshKirby
Profile Joined September 2011
13 Posts
October 05 2011 03:27 GMT
#279
On October 05 2011 09:18 jish17 wrote:.
Josh has done some pretty good scum lurking if u ask me.


Please elaborate.

On October 05 2011 09:18 jish17 wrote:
How can I be mafia when I was the first person targeted for lynching by known scum? If I was mafia why would they try and make it so much easier for town to win by lynching one of there own day 1. They wouldn't it doesn't make sense.


It'd be odd, but definitely possible. A couple scenarios:
1) Knowing that he'll be called out for using "clues," zany uses a clue to accuse you, sacrificing himself in order to make one of the mafia members look like a guaranteed townie.
2) zany is a troll player who simply likes causing havoc in the games he plays. The post where he accuses Toadesstern of being mafia could support this.

The wide range of strategies mafia can use is why it's very difficult to win when there's no information from a doctor/detective.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
October 05 2011 06:36 GMT
#280

+ Show Spoiler +
Shame about the modkills. The blokes who actually are playing keep it up! There's some good effort going in here.
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