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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:00 wherebugsgo wrote: Why would we want to lynch a lurker right now? You think he's more likely to be scum? What would you do? I mean if you were scum. Say all 5 of us posting now are town. Would you post anything? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:01 Forumite wrote: I´m not proving your guilt, just the possibility of guilt, and while it´s convoluted logic, it paints a logical train of thought both from a scum and town perspective. You didn´t have to tell me to give you my piece, it was always on the table, and always one of the ways to clear up the situation. I repeatedly asked you to make up your mind about giving your piece to me. You could have said that you didn´t trust me, that I should give you my piece. I was waiting for an answer, on if I would get the piece or if I should give mine away, because I felt a lynch coming on. Before Nisani vouched for me, there was enough pressure that I might have given you the piece just to keep it among living ponies. It could have worked, and that you didn´t say you wanted the piece doesn´t mean anything, because it was always the most likely outcome, thanks to your mistake with the PM. This doesn't make sense. First of all, I thought it would be best to give the piece to one of you or tnkted without saying who received it. Then I realized it didn't matter if I did it that way and decided to just say that I'd given it to tnkted in the thread. Never once did it cross my mind that you would think of giving me the piece. It just doesn't make sense to give me the piece, and it didn't make sense to me to give my piece to you either. Both of us were unconfirmed at this point in time, so the proper choice would've been between tnkted and Jackal. I chose to give it to tnkted because it was public that my choice was between you and tnkted. Lastly, there was never any pressure for you to get lynched and you know that. I don't understand why you're saying that now, it's not making sense to me in the slightest. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:01 GreYMisT wrote: Let us not forget, when lucidity came under attack he began posting like a madman, attacking WBG, then attacking forumite when you pointed out the fact that WBG gave up his piece without knowing what it would be. He also attacked jackal around that time as well. The trouble with today is I strongly believe that one or more of Cyber, Nisani, Sevryn, dream, and curu are scum. But unless we all want to go for a random lurker lynch we dont have enough to go on for any of them. actually does anyone know why we stopped voting for nisani? things got chaotic a few pages back. did he have a piece or was it because he was in a PM circle? We stopped voting for Nisani after he cleared me of suspicion about me getting my element early. I think Lucidity was suspicious about WBG before he came under suspicion, and since he´s been defending the case that I thought it was scummy of him to make, not trying to make a case to divert attention. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:02 Jackal58 wrote: What would you do? I mean if you were scum. Say all 5 of us posting now are town. Would you post anything? I dunno, I've never been scum. I think you're right though, it's very easy to blend in at this point in time. As you said, however, how are we going to lynch him when we aren't enough to get a majority? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:05 Forumite wrote: We stopped voting for Nisani after he cleared me of suspicion about me getting my element early. I think Lucidity was suspicious about WBG before he came under suspicion, and since he´s been defending the case that I thought it was scummy of him to make, not trying to make a case to divert attention. Which, IMO is a dumb reason to stop voting him. Just because Nisani is in your PM circle and he "cleared" you doesn't mean he's town. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:04 wherebugsgo wrote: This doesn't make sense. First of all, I thought it would be best to give the piece to one of you or tnkted without saying who received it. Then I realized it didn't matter if I did it that way and decided to just say that I'd given it to tnkted in the thread. Never once did it cross my mind that you would think of giving me the piece. It just doesn't make sense to give me the piece, and it didn't make sense to me to give my piece to you either. Both of us were unconfirmed at this point in time, so the proper choice would've been between tnkted and Jackal. I chose to give it to tnkted because it was public that my choice was between you and tnkted. Lastly, there was never any pressure for you to get lynched and you know that. I don't understand why you're saying that now, it's not making sense to me in the slightest. The lynch hadn´t taken on speed yet, but there were votes on me. Those votes were on me because you said you got your item on N1, the time tnkted and Jackal got theirs. If you had posted the correct time the first time, then there would have been no suspicion on me. As for tnkted, I don´t remember you saying you would send your piece to him until after I had allready done so, which forced you to do the same. If you hadn´t presented your piece at that time, you´d have been lynched, so giving it to tnkted was what you needed to do, independant of alignment. But you have one point, I never showed that I might send my piece to you, because you never answered me if you thought I was Town. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:08 Jackal58 wrote: Question for you Forumite. Did you tell Nisani and Curu in your QT that you received an item? I asked them if they got an interesting PM with the daypost. I didn´t want to say more in case one of them were scum. None of them said they had gotten a PM, so I assumed that only a few pieces had been distributed, and left it at that. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On September 19 2011 08:33 Lucidity wrote: Ok I need to go to sleep now. If I end up being lynched it should be easy to find the scum on me. tnkted has refused to respond to my defense of his analysis on me. He has called me "very town" but still thinks I should be lynched. If he is considered a good player, his play has been very bad this game. Since Day 2 I have operated under the assumption that he was just a derping townie, but if he is actually pushing an agenda and I get lynched I don't think we should discount the possibility that he gambited by giving his element to Jackal. If Forumite ends up on my lynch he is easily scum. Please look at my posts regarding him in the early game and chaos' case against him. Since Night 1 Forumite has only posted Fluff and talked about the elements. His only attempt at scum hunting was an extremely weak case against me. He has now stated that he doesn't believe I'm scum anymore so that's self explanatory... I guess WBG will just put his vote wherever he can avoid his own death. DONT LET A NO LYNCH OCCUR. Even if that means I have to die. At least we find scum if I die. Jackal, why are you diverting the lynch away from WBG to Sevryn? You didn't even provide a case on him. That's really troubling me. I had thought you were very town before you did that. If a no lynch occurs because Jackal pushed a Lurker lynch make sure to look in to him more thoroughly. I've been looking over posts from lucidity and reevaluating my case on him, because thats pretty much what it has come down to. Lucidity or WBG. I came across this post, a "see ya later post" that mafia would definatly NOT make. Mafia post something like this in an effort to stop a lynch from happening, they do not post something in order to help town after a lynch. Looking back at nisani I feel he is scum, look at this post here On September 17 2011 04:01 Nisani201 wrote: ##Unvote I'm going to trust you on this one, only because this is a closed setup and I have no idea what could be going on behind the scenes. Who are our other lynch suspects? Long you confirmed things for us, he says this. Would a townie be this accepting of someone just claiming out of the blue? remember, only scum know who is town. Unfortunatly we cannot get a nessesary vote on nisani even if i could get everyone to vote for him. Some things WBG have said are scummy, but I dont have the best read on him right now. That being said, we cannot have a no lynch today. Because I dont think it is possible to change everyone's vote in such a short amount of time: ##Vote Wherebugsgo Forumite you are in a similar position I am voting for someone who wont get lynched. who do you want to go for today? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:22 GreYMisT wrote: EBWOP: the phrase under Nisani201's qoute is supposed to read: Long before you confirmed things for us... If Nisani is scum so is Forumite. Damn you Curu. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
He's been lurking, we all have scum reads on him, and obviously I'm not comfortable getting lynched cause I'm town. Nisani then is the only logical choice because clearly it's between me and Lucidity and you guys think Lucidity could be town too. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
##vote Nisani201. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:21 GreYMisT wrote: Forumite you are in a similar position I am voting for someone who wont get lynched. who do you want to go for today? WBG can´t accept that what he did could have been done exactly the same by a scum, which is weird, but since the element claims and until now, I feel we can make do without a lynch today. If everyone wants to lynch WBG, then I can move my vote, I won´t force a no-lynch. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:31 Forumite wrote: WBG can´t accept that what he did could have been done exactly the same by a scum, which is weird, but since the element claims and until now, I feel we can make do without a lynch today. If everyone wants to lynch WBG, then I can move my vote, I won´t force a no-lynch. I'm not accepting it because it's a hypothetical. The real fact of the matter is that I'm town, so you're wasting a ton of time by focusing on me. Do you understand now? | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:33 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm not accepting it because it's a hypothetical. The real fact of the matter is that I'm town, so you're wasting a ton of time by focusing on me. Do you understand now? You might be Town, but I´ve proven that it´s not proven that you are Town. See? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:36 Forumite wrote: You might be Town, but I´ve proven that it´s not proven that you are Town. See? We can say the same about anyone in this game. We could say that about you too! The instant you were pressured at all by votes that should've screamed "easy lynch" to you, you begin this rant about me being mafia, completely disregarding everything else I've done. That makes sense from a scum agenda too! When someone puts things like you've done, you can come to whatever conclusion you want. It's just bad logic. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 19 2011 10:29 wherebugsgo wrote: Let's lynch Nisani then and find out. He's been lurking, we all have scum reads on him, and obviously I'm not comfortable getting lynched cause I'm town. Nisani then is the only logical choice because clearly it's between me and Lucidity and you guys think Lucidity could be town too. There aren't enough votes. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
There are 5 on me, and then mine. Not enough votes? | ||
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