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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 14 2011 15:30 GMT
#421
Can we get a votecount?
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 14 2011 15:57 GMT
#422
Also, I might not be as active during this portion of day becauSBe Minecraft 1.8 is out, and I will probably have a lot of homework.
Enjoy your day.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 14 2011 16:06 GMT
#423
What is nisani/sinani's relationship?
Valar Morghulis
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
September 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#424
On September 14 2011 22:04 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 13:32 Curu wrote:
tnkted and dreamflower, I'd like your thoughts on DroneAllDay and Lucidity.


...


tnkted has kept his vote on me because ON was a lurker. I'm obviously not lurking. Offer up some more thoughts, on me or whoever else because you don't have that excuse anymore.



Fair enough, You certainly haven't been lurking.

##Unvote

My thoughts on DroneAllDay: I don't think he's posted since the day started, which means he's probably going to get modkilled. Perhaps he hasn't checked his pms in awhile? Either way, I think he's going to get himself dead without anybody's help (@Dreamflower: This is one of the main reasons NOT to lynch lurkers; they tend to get themselves modkilled anyway and we waste a lynch).
[red]Talking about DaD makes a point why not to lynch lurkers(kinda fluffy if paragraph)]/red]
My thoughts on lucidity: his post analyzing dreamflower was extremely interesting because it was well done. I don't know if I agree with his conclusions, but his method was very effective: It paraphrased the important aspects of dreamflower's post, and interpreted them in order to understand what dreamflower was really talking about. THIS is a good way to find scum.
He likes lucidity but doesn't agree with his conclusions about dreamflower that she is playing anti town

Now, why he chose dreamflower and nobody else is kind of interesting; Dreamflowers scumhunting abilities are so legendary (for me anyway) that I have a hard time believing she intended to come across as scummy as she did. I want to hear her response before I vote for her. Also interesting to note is that lucidity didn't actually vote her himself; he's also waiting for a response. For what it's worth, right now dreamflower is my #1 vote but I'll abstain until she shows up to defend herself.
what what what? you dont agree with his analysis but she is your #1 vote but then you dotn acctually want to vote for her? the pinnacle of wishy washyness is right here sir.
Eh, what the hell. I can always change it later.

##Vote: Dreamflower

I have no self control.

Now, to deal with some mindless accusations:
Okay you actually vote for her but you do a bunch of disclaimers that you can change your vote later and your impulsive with no self control seems like a very week pressure vote to me

Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 21:08 chaos13 wrote:
Just did a little re-reading myself. I have two main suspects. Forumite and tnkted. This post was the reason I backed off on Forumite

On September 13 2011 22:15 tnkted wrote:
Eh, I'm not buying the forumite lynch. His initial statements were pretty lame, but he's been acting like an unjustly accused town since then.

I want to shift town conversation back to Greymyst.


On September 13 2011 06:42 GreYMisT wrote:
Sadly I have to agree with Dream, and echo what she said. We pretty much haw a very long day 1 with no roles or anything but a very general plan to discuss. I have only played with a few of you, but from the games I have read we will do well if we can maintain a good atmosphere, as we have right now. Because we also don't know how many or what type of roles exist, we need to focus on logic and behavioral analysis, rather than hope for power roles to carry us. I think we should process forward assuming no blues exist.


Now I wanted to wait until after the nightpost to say this, but jackie beat me to it. This is a crazy scummy post. Its sheepy, and its a poor attempt to blend in with everyone, etc.

His response to the pressure everyone gave him was this:


On September 13 2011 09:06 GreYMisT wrote:
I prefer policy posts and "plans" to the spam and trolling it takes to get some games started on day 1. Would you rather I didn't post at all? I feel that at least gets everyone on the same page. Otherwise we don't know where anyone stands on the mechanics of the game, and judging from games I have read on here that seems to muck up later days.


Okay, lets look at the appeals he makes here. He doesn't try to defend his scummy post at all; instead he appeals to the emotional ("Would you rather I didn't post at all?") and then basically restates his first sentence. This is NOT how you react to pressure. A true townie would read their post and either say, "That wasn't scummy at all!" Or they'd defend themselves and explain what they meant. Greymyst did neither.


Oh, and then the rest of his posts are all about the d1 post and the clues it might contain, which successfully shields him from having to hunt for scum.


## Vote Greymyst


Namely the first line. I read that and went "Yeah, he kinda has", but after going over those posts again, he's probably scum. Take a look at tnkted's case here. I'd be willing to say he's a better town player than this. I don't have time to make a full analysis of him right now and I probably won't anyway since we need a majority to lynch.

So vote Forumite.

##unvote
##Vote Forumite


Frankly, this is a complete nonsense post. "Tnkted makes a good point about forumite not being scum, which convinced me, but later, i changed my mind and now I think he's scum too!" WHY did you change your mind when what I said made sense to you? Go find me evidence where he stopped acting like an annoyed townie and more like a frightened scum, and I'll consider switching to you.

Please post a case against me instead of just throwing out soft foses. You think people don't notice when you do this?

Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
September 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#425
##vote tnkted
for being wishy washy scum
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 14 2011 16:22 GMT
#426
On September 15 2011 01:06 Lucidity wrote:
What is nisani/sinani's relationship?

We are friends IRL.
Enjoy your day.
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
September 14 2011 16:59 GMT
#427
After catching up on the thread, I now think sinani206 is the best lynch target. Lynching a lurker is obviously not applicable anymore (though I am looking forward to hearing more about DroneAllDay's vote on Curu), but I think lynching someone who was lurking and then comes out with a flurry of posts that indicate he was reading the thread the whole time but didn't post about his views until he himself was accused is a good approach.

As GreyMist posted earlier here, sinani206 was actively lurking early in Day One with three very general posts about the Day post and majority lynch. He apparently also thought Forumite was our best lynch target but does not post to express his agreement or views, even though the main argument about Forumite and Greymist were happening then. He then posts about twelve hours later, when Curu replaces OriginalName and immediately votes for sinani, to place his vote on me. This is also where he says that he believed Forumite was a perfectly good lynch candidate before the lynching-lurkers idea was introduced, though he does not say why he thought Forumite was so lynch-worthy. However, sinani says that the vote on me is merely a "pressure vote" because he wants an explanation of why lynching lurkers is better than lynching a perfectly good candidate. I should point out here that I was only one of many people who thought lynching lurkers would be a good idea; Nisani and Jackal were others, yet sinani has yet to put any pressure on them for being in favor of lynching lurkers. In addition, while the discussion on lynching lurkers was actually occurring, sinani never speaks up against it, even though other people objected to lynching lurkers or had reservations on who qualified as lurking or inactive. Furthermore, the topic of lurkers actually came up much earlier (in fact, it was part of Forumite's post that started the cases against him, most notably chaos13's) and sinani206 said nothing about lurkers then, either, whether to agree with Forumite or chaos13 about what to do with them.

After this, when Curu continues accusing him, he switches his vote from me to Curu, with the reason that Curu is an idiot. He does not state a concrete reason why, except that Curu is being "super scummy" and voted for him. His insisting that no one answer Curu's questions to other players about their ideas also makes it look like he was trying to stifle discussion, even though discussion is widely agreed to be a good place to find information (particularly in a no-PMs game). This struck me as particularly confusing because Curu wasn't even asking about roles, just people's thoughts and rationales for specific votes and stances, which shouldn't be all that helpful to the Mafia.

The impression sinani206 gives is that he was reading the thread, but didn't post his thoughts about his "perfectly good lynch candidate" or his opposition to lynching lurkers until both Greymist and Curu voted for him and accused him. This seems like active lurking to me. In addition, sinani's "polls are scummy" posts appear to want to stifle discussion in response to Curu's questions, even though discussion is the only way the town can communicate in this game with each other. He also has yet to express any real opinions and reasoning in this thread, aside from that he doesn't like the idea of lynching lurkers and thinks Curu is an idiot. So, I will vote for sinani206 for lynching today.

##Vote sinani206
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 14 2011 17:52 GMT
#428
I am going to Unvote: Curu. I feel like we were all just arguing while scum watched and laughed. IMO there would have been more people in the conversation if one of us were scum.

I will move my vote over to wherebugsgo, because he was perfectly active until we started arguing. He has posted no opinions on it because he doesn't feel the need to; he can afford for any of us to die. He simply comments on the same things that Curu has been bringing up, which is "Sinani played horribly in Ace's game, so we should lynch him."

##Vote: wherebugsgo
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 14 2011 17:53 GMT
#429
##Unvote: Curu

##Vote: wherebugsgo
Enjoy your day.
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
September 14 2011 18:33 GMT
#430
Alright guys im going to work so I will not be around for the nightpost. I think tnkted or sinani206 are the best lynches atm and since we only need 7 getting a lynch shouldnt be that hard. I am going to leave my vote on Tnkted because i think he is the best lynch.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 14 2011 18:43 GMT
#431
Sinani206 (4)
9-Greymist
10-Curu
16-Forumite
22-Dreamflower

Curu (2)
11-tnkted - INCORRECT VOTE
13-chaos13
14-nisani201
15-sinani206
20-DroneAllDay

tnkted (2)
8-wherebugsgo
21-Sevryn

Forumite (1)
1-Lucidity - INCORRECT VOTE
2-Chaos13
4-Sevryn
17-Chaos13

Dreamflower (1)
12-sinani206
18-tnkted

Chaos13 (1)
19-Jackal58

wherebugsgo (1)
23-Nisani201

DroneAllDay (0)
5-Nisani201
6-Dreamflower

Greymist (0)
3-tnkted - misspelled name

OriginalName (0)
7-tnkted - INCORRECT VOTE

Abstaining (Modkills) (1)
Lucidity
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 14 2011 18:49 GMT
#432
On September 15 2011 03:33 Sevryn wrote:
Alright guys im going to work so I will not be around for the nightpost. I think tnkted or sinani206 are the best lynches atm and since we only need 7 getting a lynch shouldnt be that hard. I am going to leave my vote on Tnkted because i think he is the best lynch.

Emphasis mine. The red text might not be scummy, but it´s wrong. It´s impossible getting a lynch going when everyone votes on the candidate they want lynched, no matter if anyone else agree. Perhaps he didn´t know how the votes were, but I doubt tnkted is not going to get 7 votes before the end of the day, so that vote looks wasted.

Not voting on a leading candidate is a vote to not lynch at all.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 14 2011 18:50 GMT
#433
EBWOP

Perhaps he didn´t know how the votes were, but I doubt tnkted is going to get 7 votes before the end of the day, so that vote looks wasted.
:3
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 14 2011 19:21 GMT
#434
On September 15 2011 00:30 Nisani201 wrote:
Can we get a votecount?

One is coming as soon as I get to a computer (so in about an hour)
Moderator
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 14 2011 20:58 GMT
#435
Okay, looks like we´re heading for a no-lynch.
:3
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 14 2011 21:11 GMT
#436
This game.

So inactive.

By the power of rainbows and sunshine I summon all Ponies into the thread!
wat
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 21:19:41
September 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#437
Day 1 Votecount: People have no idea of how to format.


Forumite(2)
Lucidity
Chaos13
Sevryn
chaos13

Greymist(0)
tnkted

DroneAllDay(0)
Nisani201
dreamflower

OriginalName/Curu(2)
tnkted
chaos13
Nisani201
sinani206
DroneAllDay

tnkted(2)
wherebugsgo
Sevryn

sinani206(4)
GreYMisT
Curu
Forumite
dreamflower

dreamflower(1)
sinani206
tnkted

chaos13(1)
Jackal58

wherebugsgo(1)
Nisani201

About 5 hours left in the day. Remember you need 7 to lynch
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
September 14 2011 21:22 GMT
#438
I have arrived!

Not much has changed since the last time I posted earlier this afternoon. I think dreamflower summed up a few of my thoughts about the sinani lynch quite nicely. I still think him to be our best target today.

Jackal, Tnkted, Chaos, and Nishani you are all voting for outliers at the moment. Please look over the sinani lynch, in particular my and dream's posts, and let us know why you feel lynching him is not a good idea, and why your targets are better.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 14 2011 22:13 GMT
#439
Majority lynch is weird. I don't like it. However, GreYMisT is right, I shouldn't be voting for an outlier.

##Unvote

##Vote: Curu

If anyone else is interested in lynching wherebugsgo, just post it here, and maybe I can get some more votes on him.
Enjoy your day.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 14 2011 22:31 GMT
#440
Majority lynch isn´t weird, we just need to adapt to it.

I think Curu is Town. I get a scumread from sinani206 and tnkted. I´m open to switching to tnkted if needed.
:3
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