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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 14 2011 22:45 GMT
#441
Is anyone else online?
:3
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#442
Man. Why is everyone scummy. chaos13/sinani/Forumite/tnkted... I can't tell if Curu tried to cause chaos or if he's just being really aggressive... Policy lynching someone for actions in another game isn't something I think a good player would do. Curu hasn't advocated it in other games with Kenpachi/Kurumi as far as I'm aware, and he basically views them as unreadable too.

Of these I think sinani is our best bet... Both in terms of getting the required numbers and in terms of likely scum. The reactions surrounding Curu's attack on him are quite suspect.

##Unvote
##Vote sinani
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 14 2011 23:02 GMT
#443
##Vote sinani206

(in case partial names aren't counted)

Please don't let a no-lynch occur.
Valar Morghulis
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 14 2011 23:10 GMT
#444
Dreamflower is the only person that has made any sense in this game yet.

##UNVOTE: Chaos13
##VOTE: sinani206
Life can only kill you once.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 14 2011 23:11 GMT
#445
The fact that you think that worries me.
Valar Morghulis
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 14 2011 23:20 GMT
#446
On September 15 2011 08:11 Lucidity wrote:
The fact that you think that worries me.

Why?
Life can only kill you once.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 14 2011 23:21 GMT
#447
Alright, I'm back from class today and I see not really much has changed. Townies are still retarded and the mafia are slipping through undetected because of it. Our best lynch for today is tnkted, something I've been trying to get through to you numbskulls since yesterday, but instead all of you seem to be completely ignoring me.

On September 14 2011 13:32 Curu wrote:
WBG you seem to agree with me on sinani (you were in that game too) but how come your vote never moved?


I agree that sinani is playing really poorly but I never agreed that he was the best lynch. I'm not gonna vote sinani cause I don't think we should lynch him today.

How god damn hard is it for you morons to understand this?

Instead, I think we should lynch tnkted. Just look at how fast the bandwagon on sinani piled up. You guys don't think that's strange? Unless scum is all out bussing him day 1 I think we ought to leave sinani be until we're more certain of his alignment.

On September 15 2011 02:52 Nisani201 wrote:
I am going to Unvote: Curu. I feel like we were all just arguing while scum watched and laughed. IMO there would have been more people in the conversation if one of us were scum.

I will move my vote over to wherebugsgo, because he was perfectly active until we started arguing. He has posted no opinions on it because he doesn't feel the need to; he can afford for any of us to die. He simply comments on the same things that Curu has been bringing up, which is "Sinani played horribly in Ace's game, so we should lynch him."

##Vote: wherebugsgo


what in the hell is this?

There is only one thing I dislike more than wishy washiness, and that is lying. You sir, are a liar. I never said I wanted to lynch Sinani. I said I can understand why people would want to lynch him, but I never said we should lynch him.

If I thought we should lynch him I would've voted him. Ever get that through your dumb head, Nisani?

Honestly, until reading this post I thought you were just a dumb townie but now I smell that you could possibly have an agenda. Townies might grasp at straws but they certainly wouldn't fabricate things or put words in other people's mouths.

Other gems of Nisani's I've found:

On September 15 2011 00:57 Nisani201 wrote:
Also, I might not be as active during this portion of day becauSBe Minecraft 1.8 is out, and I will probably have a lot of homework.


You had a problem with me being inactive (BECAUSE I WAS SLEEPING) but you are planning on being less active during the most important part of the day? The day ends in like 3 hours. Also, you even said you wanted to hear from Forumite but you knew he is in another time zone and that's why you knew he wouldn't respond till later. So why did it never cross your mind that I could be sleeping as well?

Nice double standards, scum.

On September 15 2011 07:13 Nisani201 wrote:
Majority lynch is weird. I don't like it. However, GreYMisT is right, I shouldn't be voting for an outlier.

##Unvote

##Vote: Curu

If anyone else is interested in lynching wherebugsgo, just post it here, and maybe I can get some more votes on him.


"oh I seem to have been caught for my shitty reasoning.

Time to jump back on a bandwagon on a person I just said was town one post ago!"

On September 14 2011 13:24 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 13:02 Curu wrote:
On September 14 2011 12:40 Curu wrote:
Is there a reason why you're willing to accept lynch lurkers but not lynch sinani?


Still waiting for an answer Nisani.

And still waiting for chaos to explain his blanket chainsaw vote.

I already stated in the thread that I only intended to lynch lurkers if they ended up not posting. (however I will admit that this was poorly thought out, because he would be eligible for modkill anyways). I prefered voting for DroneAllDay rather than Sinani because Sinani has not done anything scummy. The case against Forumite is not good enough to warrant a vote. And then you come around, calling everyone scum, and make yourself the perfect target for my vote. EZ.


He admits that he did not think about his vote.

I repeat, Nisani201 DID NOT THINK ABOUT HIS VOTE. So Nisani, you're willing to arbitrarily throw around votes and cause havoc (like the shit town atmosphere we have right now) just on the basis of wanting to lynch lurkers for not posting?

That's a great way to blend in, isn't it? Lynch the guy who can't respond to you cause he's inactive. That way there's no backlash for your shitty reasoning. Yet, when you got called out on it you soft-defended sinani ("sinani has not done anything scummy") and the only other case is on Forumite. Who, I'm guessing is town, since you dismissed him so easily.

There's only two options for you:

1.) You rolled town, yet you have yet to use your brain and are just acting immensely thick.
2.) You're scum, trying to mislead others about what I said to try to fabricate a case on me, and are trying really hard to blend in.

I'm leaning toward #2 right now.

With all of this, however, I have more things to point out. Our best lynch today, as I said earlier, is tnkted. I will explain further:

On September 14 2011 22:04 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 13:32 Curu wrote:
tnkted and dreamflower, I'd like your thoughts on DroneAllDay and Lucidity.


...


tnkted has kept his vote on me because ON was a lurker. I'm obviously not lurking. Offer up some more thoughts, on me or whoever else because you don't have that excuse anymore.



Fair enough, You certainly haven't been lurking.

##Unvote

My thoughts on DroneAllDay: I don't think he's posted since the day started, which means he's probably going to get modkilled. Perhaps he hasn't checked his pms in awhile? Either way, I think he's going to get himself dead without anybody's help (@Dreamflower: This is one of the main reasons NOT to lynch lurkers; they tend to get themselves modkilled anyway and we waste a lynch).

My thoughts on lucidity: his post analyzing dreamflower was extremely interesting because it was well done. I don't know if I agree with his conclusions, but his method was very effective: It paraphrased the important aspects of dreamflower's post, and interpreted them in order to understand what dreamflower was really talking about. THIS is a good way to find scum.

Now, why he chose dreamflower and nobody else is kind of interesting; Dreamflowers scumhunting abilities are so legendary (for me anyway) that I have a hard time believing she intended to come across as scummy as she did. I want to hear her response before I vote for her. Also interesting to note is that lucidity didn't actually vote her himself; he's also waiting for a response. For what it's worth, right now dreamflower is my #1 vote but I'll abstain until she shows up to defend herself.

Eh, what the hell. I can always change it later.

##Vote: Dreamflower

I have no self control.


Now, to deal with some mindless accusations:


Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 21:08 chaos13 wrote:
Just did a little re-reading myself. I have two main suspects. Forumite and tnkted. This post was the reason I backed off on Forumite

On September 13 2011 22:15 tnkted wrote:
Eh, I'm not buying the forumite lynch. His initial statements were pretty lame, but he's been acting like an unjustly accused town since then.

I want to shift town conversation back to Greymyst.


On September 13 2011 06:42 GreYMisT wrote:
Sadly I have to agree with Dream, and echo what she said. We pretty much haw a very long day 1 with no roles or anything but a very general plan to discuss. I have only played with a few of you, but from the games I have read we will do well if we can maintain a good atmosphere, as we have right now. Because we also don't know how many or what type of roles exist, we need to focus on logic and behavioral analysis, rather than hope for power roles to carry us. I think we should process forward assuming no blues exist.


Now I wanted to wait until after the nightpost to say this, but jackie beat me to it. This is a crazy scummy post. Its sheepy, and its a poor attempt to blend in with everyone, etc.

His response to the pressure everyone gave him was this:


On September 13 2011 09:06 GreYMisT wrote:
I prefer policy posts and "plans" to the spam and trolling it takes to get some games started on day 1. Would you rather I didn't post at all? I feel that at least gets everyone on the same page. Otherwise we don't know where anyone stands on the mechanics of the game, and judging from games I have read on here that seems to muck up later days.


Okay, lets look at the appeals he makes here. He doesn't try to defend his scummy post at all; instead he appeals to the emotional ("Would you rather I didn't post at all?") and then basically restates his first sentence. This is NOT how you react to pressure. A true townie would read their post and either say, "That wasn't scummy at all!" Or they'd defend themselves and explain what they meant. Greymyst did neither.


Oh, and then the rest of his posts are all about the d1 post and the clues it might contain, which successfully shields him from having to hunt for scum.


## Vote Greymyst


Namely the first line. I read that and went "Yeah, he kinda has", but after going over those posts again, he's probably scum. Take a look at tnkted's case here. I'd be willing to say he's a better town player than this. I don't have time to make a full analysis of him right now and I probably won't anyway since we need a majority to lynch.

So vote Forumite.

##unvote
##Vote Forumite


Frankly, this is a complete nonsense post. "Tnkted makes a good point about forumite not being scum, which convinced me, but later, i changed my mind and now I think he's scum too!" WHY did you change your mind when what I said made sense to you? Go find me evidence where he stopped acting like an annoyed townie and more like a frightened scum, and I'll consider switching to you.

Please post a case against me instead of just throwing out soft foses. You think people don't notice when you do this?


What?

What kind of reasoning is this?

Tnkted is voting dreamflower not because dreamflower made contradictions, not because dreamflower seems to be pushing an agenda, and not because dreamflower appears scummy to him but because dreamflower appears scummy to LUCIDITY.

This is the textbook definition of sheeping. Tnkted contributed absolutely nothing in this entire post except a massive sheep vote of Dreamflower by following Lucidity blindly.

You all need to seriously consider tnkted as a lynch today.



Finally, there are a few other players who I found made interesting remarks today, and who I think we should keep an eye on. Sinani and Curu for obvious reasons, but I have an inkling at least one of them is town. Chaos I never have a proper read on, he could be anything, but his reasoning as always has been fairly bad. For example, his forumite vote post in which he considers tnkted to be scum but doesn't actually say why. Let's keep him in mind. + Show Spoiler +
lol I still <3 you chaos


In summary:

Lynchlist: tnkted

Watchlist: Nisani201, sinani206, Curu, chaos13

worthy of a vig shot to the face: tnkted, nisani

Nisani is scummy to me, but as of right now there's no way to tell whether he's just a retarded townie or if he's mafia with an agenda. I lean mafia, but lynching him today is not the best option. Vigging him might be good, though.

Tnkted is our best lynch. Filter him and look at how he blends in, look at his sheeping of Lucidity, and look at his contradiction with respect to the lurker lynch policy and Droneallday. All of these things line up with a scum agenda IMO. None of these things make sense from a pro-town mindset.

I'll be around for the next 5-8 hours, so I hope to see people involved so that we can make a proper lynch.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 14 2011 23:22 GMT
#448
On September 15 2011 08:10 Jackal58 wrote:
Dreamflower is the only person that has made any sense in this game yet.

##UNVOTE: Chaos13
##VOTE: sinani206


good point, cause this post you made didn't really prove that you're making sense either.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 14 2011 23:35 GMT
#449
I apologize, wherebugsgo. I was looking at the wrong filter when I mentioned how you accused Sinani based on meta.

The rest of your accusation against me is very stupid. Not scummy, but still stupid nonetheless.
Enjoy your day.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 14 2011 23:40 GMT
#450
Can everypony stop with the name calling? There's no need to be rude.

I think tnkted is a great choice, but is his lynch a realistic possibility? I won't be here for the lynch so I feel safer leaving my vote on sinani.

WBG: In what world could sinani and Curu both be scum?
Valar Morghulis
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 14 2011 23:47 GMT
#451
When is the deadline?

WBG, I understand that tnkted is a likely scum, but he won´t be lynched today. Your vote is wasted on tnkted, or worse, the reason we get a no-lynch.
:3
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 14 2011 23:49 GMT
#452
On September 15 2011 08:47 Forumite wrote:
When is the deadline?

WBG, I understand that tnkted is a likely scum, but he won´t be lynched today. Your vote is wasted on tnkted, or worse, the reason we get a no-lynch.

2 hours and 10 minutes
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 14 2011 23:55 GMT
#453
On September 15 2011 08:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 08:10 Jackal58 wrote:
Dreamflower is the only person that has made any sense in this game yet.

##UNVOTE: Chaos13
##VOTE: sinani206


good point, cause this post you made didn't really prove that you're making sense either.

Sinani and Nisani are linked at the hip. You have both of them on your watch list. We have 2 or a little more than hours left. We are currently headed towards a non lynch. And you want to switch it? And if you and Curu continue to call every swinging dick in the game names with every post I'm gonna opt out of every game you guys join. If you get this emotionally vested into a text based forum game I would suggest some counseling.
Life can only kill you once.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 14 2011 23:58 GMT
#454
On September 15 2011 08:40 Lucidity wrote:
Can everypony stop with the name calling? There's no need to be rude.

I think tnkted is a great choice, but is his lynch a realistic possibility? I won't be here for the lynch so I feel safer leaving my vote on sinani.

WBG: In what world could sinani and Curu both be scum?


I didn't say I thought both of them are scum. I just worded my thoughts badly.

Finally, there are a few other players who I found made interesting remarks today, and who I think we should keep an eye on. Sinani and Curu for obvious reasons, but I have an inkling at least one of them is town.


I think at least one of them is town, but I'm actually leaning toward both of them being town. The reason I say we keep an eye on them is that they've created a huge mess today and it would be stupid to dismiss them both.

My best guess is that it's two townies butting heads, with extra influence from scum (i.e. Nisani). Curu's clearly mad over what happened in Ace's game (for which is completely understandable IMO, sinani went total derp and screwed us) and in this game it doesn't seem like sinani has really changed at all. Nisani's play throws a wrench in there because I lean scum on him and he was heavily involved in that business.


On September 15 2011 08:47 Forumite wrote:
When is the deadline?

WBG, I understand that tnkted is a likely scum, but he won´t be lynched today. Your vote is wasted on tnkted, or worse, the reason we get a no-lynch.


I'm prepared to switch my vote but I really don't think sinani is the best lynch. It looks like he has the best chance of getting lynched though. I'll be here to switch my vote as necessary.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
September 15 2011 00:00 GMT
#455
I believe the deadline is in ~2hours and 10 minutes, but i could be stupidly mistaken

WBG, thanks for being one of the few to actually respond to my request for reasoning. I am still more convinced that Sinani is a better lynch, but I will admit Tnktned has caught my eye as well. Mostly due to the way in which he has been throwing votes around like confetti this entire day 1. Lets take a journey down memory lane shall we?


On September 13 2011 22:15 tnkted wrote:

## Vote Greymyst



On September 14 2011 03:46 tnkted wrote:

## Unvote

## Vote OriginalName





On September 14 2011 09:56 tnkted wrote:

## Unvote OriginalName

## Vote Curu


On September 14 2011 22:04 tnkted wrote:


##Unvote


##Vote: Dreamflower



Of course I have taken these votes out of context, but this should help you see what I mean.

I will reiterate, I feel tnkted is scummy, however I still feel sinani is a strong lynch for the reasons i have posted throughout the thread. If anyone has any more information/analysis, we have 2 hours left. step forward.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 15 2011 00:01 GMT
#456
Last friendly reminder to cut out the name calling. Next one is going to be accompanied by a quick trip to the moon. ^_^
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 15 2011 00:01 GMT
#457
On September 15 2011 08:55 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 08:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 15 2011 08:10 Jackal58 wrote:
Dreamflower is the only person that has made any sense in this game yet.

##UNVOTE: Chaos13
##VOTE: sinani206


good point, cause this post you made didn't really prove that you're making sense either.

Sinani and Nisani are linked at the hip. You have both of them on your watch list. We have 2 or a little more than hours left. We are currently headed towards a non lynch. And you want to switch it? And if you and Curu continue to call every swinging dick in the game names with every post I'm gonna opt out of every game you guys join. If you get this emotionally vested into a text based forum game I would suggest some counseling.


sorry, I am at least just frustrated with (what I feel) is a strong dose of town incompetence lately.

In Ace's game I felt that no one was thinking straight and here too I think we've already started out really badly.

I also don't think Sinani and Nisani are linked. There is nothing to suggest that any of those 3 (curu, nisani, nor sinani) are linked unless all three are scum. They're on my watchlist because any 3 of them could be scum, and there's no real way to tell which ones actually are (or if any of them are)

If sinani flips scum the possibility of all 3 of them being scum would exist, but if he flips town anything goes. There's no way to tell IMO.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 15 2011 00:05 GMT
#458
I should clarify, there's no real way to tell if they're scum solely based on their links to the other two. I lean scum on Nisani but it has nothing to do with his involvement with Sinani, it has to do with his behavior and the agenda I perceive.

I think we should evaluate each of the three like we would any other player, on their own merits. If sinani becomes the lynch today we'll find out enough information to determine whether we should try pursuing a link or not.

Think about it, if sinani flips town I don't think we'll really gain anything with respect to those other two.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 15 2011 00:10 GMT
#459
On September 15 2011 08:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 08:47 Forumite wrote:
When is the deadline?

WBG, I understand that tnkted is a likely scum, but he won´t be lynched today. Your vote is wasted on tnkted, or worse, the reason we get a no-lynch.


I'm prepared to switch my vote but I really don't think sinani is the best lynch. It looks like he has the best chance of getting lynched though. I'll be here to switch my vote as necessary.

Why not switch now? There is no possibility of the lynch swinging to tnkted, but if your vote is on sinani206, then there is less risk of us ending up at 7, and then have someone drop off.
:3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 15 2011 00:11 GMT
#460
On September 15 2011 09:01 GMarshal wrote:
Last friendly reminder to cut out the name calling. Next one is going to be accompanied by a quick trip to the moon. ^_^

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