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On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote: Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means.
Coroner Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm).
It does not say "one per day".
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On September 06 2011 11:27 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:I have an idea. It may already be too late, but it's worth doing probably. @Jackal, to make sure sandroba doesn't get RBd again, you could protect him. On September 06 2011 10:59 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 10:53 bumatlarge wrote:On September 06 2011 10:47 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 10:41 bumatlarge wrote:my game ending role Wow this is the first I've heard of this. Mind sharing Ace? I actually typed it out, but I restrained just in case there really is some Mafia role out there that can do something insane. Also, would double high priests break the set-up? I'm thinking it's completely plausible with what we are seeing so far, since we haven't seen an unlynchable claim or shoot, and there is only one coroner. Losing an HP would really rough up town, and the likelihood of them overlapping is huge. I've been thinking about this too, and it also irks me. If we have a Coroner and a backup Coroner then we might also have 2 priests. I don't see why iGrok would give us 2 Coroners when losing the priest is just as bad for the Town if this holds. The thing about revival is that once a dead player comes back to life, he has every incentive to claim knowing he will die again. But no one seems to realize this, or is purposely not mentioning this. Reviving Varpulis is actually the best move the Town can make right now. What would it do for your argument (purely curious) if I were to hypothetically claim HP, and there was another HP claim also? Are you just using it to reinforce your case that there could be 4 scum? partially yes. Lets look at this another way because obviously basing it on whats stated in the OP isn't getting through to some people. Varpulis can not be resurrected. redFF checked the body. Said he Varpulis was Town. Why hasn't he given us Varpulis's role yet?
I interpreted that as him being green. Assuming I'm not the pious, which it was shown that I'm not, varp could very well have been the pious. I would assume there's more than only 1 or even 2 greens.
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On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote: Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand?
Here would be a hypothetical full role:
Coroner Can look at a corpse and know role and alignment. This can happen a total of two times, to be used at any time.
Your counter argument used the phrase "once per day". You're the one debating on semantics, but you're also failing at it.
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On September 06 2011 11:51 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote: Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand? The detective role says ONCE PER DAY The coroner role DOES NOT. Jesus Show nested quote + I am a Coroner.
redFF was my Apprentice.
When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)
So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.
So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.
Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here. Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day. He dies without using any checks. redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point. Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag. Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it. The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up. The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner. Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent. Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote: /confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now. The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense. current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later. Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote: bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three? I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me. #vote sinani206 I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.
Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: redFF
PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it. LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches. Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote: ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote: kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.
Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp. So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads. 2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this. There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne. Fucking rape.
Scenario: Sinani knows he has an apprentice, but doesn't know who it is. redFF knows he is an apprentice, but doesn't know who the original is. Once the Day 1 lynches go out, redFF finds out that his master has died. He checks varp (maybe by sheer luck, or he's told that sinani was his master via PM) and finds he wasn't the coroner. By keeping up with the thread, sinani now knows that redFF was his apprentice.
This would explain why redFF would push for the lynch on sinani, and then after redFF claimed apprentice, the stories line up.
There's your scenario analysis Ace. Now bow down to the scrub, asshole. (Cuz, hey, if Ace is above the courtesy rules, then who's to say that everyone else isn't?)
Fucking rape.
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On September 06 2011 12:26 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 12:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:51 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote: Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand? The detective role says ONCE PER DAY The coroner role DOES NOT. Jesus I am a Coroner.
redFF was my Apprentice.
When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)
So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.
So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.
Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here. Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day. He dies without using any checks. redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point. Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag. Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it. The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up. The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner. Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent. On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote: /confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now. The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense. current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later. On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote: bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three? I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me. #vote sinani206 I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.
Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: redFF
PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it. LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches. On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote: ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote: kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.
Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp. So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads. 2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this. There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne. Fucking rape. Scenario: Sinani knows he has an apprentice, but doesn't know who it is. redFF knows he is an apprentice, but doesn't know who the original is. Once the Day 1 lynches go out, redFF finds out that his master has died. He checks varp (maybe by sheer luck, or he's told that sinani was his master via PM) and finds he wasn't the coroner. By keeping up with the thread, sinani now knows that redFF was his apprentice. This would explain why redFF would push for the lynch on sinani, and then after redFF claimed apprentice, the stories line up. There's your scenario analysis Ace. Now bow down to the scrub, asshole. (Cuz, hey, if Ace is above the courtesy rules, then who's to say that everyone else isn't?) Fucking rape. Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 12:07 sinani206 wrote:OK, Ace, you want the truth? Alright, here it is. My role PM said exactly what it says in the OP. It did not tell me who my apprentice is, or even that I had one. When I died, redFF comes and claims backup. I chose to believe him based on these facts. - He says that I was innocent and that I should be revived
- I had a check left when I was revived, so he could only have used one.
redFF probably was told that he was the apprentice when I died, and obviously given my name.So that's why we weren't treating each other like confirmed townies the first day. Happy? Sinani just said he didn't even know he had an apprentice jcarl. Flush that crap, thanks. @Sinani: redFF was probably told that but he never said so. If he checks Varpulis and deduces you are the Coroner then why wouldn't he tell the Town Varpulis's role?. Varp can't be revived so holding that information in is now useless. His claim reeks. The second bolded - how would you know redFF was given your name? You just said redFF deduced you are the Coroner so why would he be given your name? You said it yourself - your role PM says exactly what it says in the OP. No where in it does it say anything about giving you extra information. @wherebugsgo: No, we are lynching me today because I really think this is the only shot at winning. I just dont trust most of you.
So you know what that shows? Only the first sentence in my scenario was false. I was typing that as sinani answered I guess. My scenario would still hold up. They still wouldn't have known the others' identity day 1. Flush that crap, thanks.
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Hmm...so you're saying the minion shot hit jackal, who was the necro. This makes someone else the necro, and then when jackal is revived by that second necro, he gets his necro title back. Definitely plausible. Doesn't quite explain the 3 rezzes we had last night though, since jackal was one of them.
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On September 07 2011 03:35 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 02:46 sandroba wrote:On September 05 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote: Bum is scum. His late claim is BS. I was minion hit. I received a PM from iGrok when I died advising me to continue watching the game because I would be resurrected at the beginning of the next day. The only thing that fits that is a minion hit.
From the OP: No players are told how a character is returned to life. Since jackal was told he would get revived as soon as he died, the only possiblity is that he was a minion hit. Why would a host inform a player of that? The priest could very well be dead today and we could be facing only 2 ressurections and there is no reason jackal should have extra info about his ressurection as town. As scum of course he does since someone on his team shot him. Then Jackal should "roleclaim" no?
He already did. Glad you've been reading the thread.
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On September 07 2011 03:46 Kenpachi wrote: hurr i missed it.
hurrrr that's cuz you're not doing jack shit
On September 07 2011 03:44 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 03:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: Hmm...so you're saying the minion shot hit jackal, who was the necro. This makes someone else the necro, and then when jackal is revived by that second necro, he gets his necro title back. Definitely plausible. Doesn't quite explain the 3 rezzes we had last night though, since jackal was one of them. I actually don't know if 2 necros at the same time is possible, but I can't see where it states it's not. How does it not explain the 3 ressurections? 1)minion hit (jackal - any player who has a role gets ressed a day after despite alignment) 2)new necro (from the OP, when a necro dies another one takes his place) 3)priest @kenapachi Jackal has already roleclaimed. Why do you join games if you are not going to read the thread?
Oh nevermind. Sorry, forgot minion hit was ressed a day later.
I'm not sure if this can be answered but:
(Assuming a necro exists) If the first necro dies, and then gets ressed by the new necro, does the second necro remain a necro along with the original necro?
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I'm going to be leaving for practice very very shortly. I should be back about an hour before day ends. If you want my vote switched off of Ace, I need to be told and given good reason. I want to hear from Ace. If you really want to be lynched and use your "zomg game ending power", then my vote won't move.
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On September 07 2011 07:38 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 06:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 07 2011 05:54 Jackal58 wrote:On September 07 2011 05:52 wherebugsgo wrote: I should clarify, the zeal with which you protect your claim despite it being contradictory (and these two contradictions being confirmed in the OP and by a mod clarification) Show me the mod clarification. Here: On September 07 2011 02:07 iGrok wrote:On September 06 2011 22:40 sandroba wrote: Also since you prevent actions, you should have to act even before roleblocker.
iGrok, can you clarify if it's possible for something to act before roleblocking effects? Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects. No effects on the same tier can affect each other. So, you cannot block a block. Killing a Vig does not prevent his kill. Etc. unless otherwise specified. Mod clarification in red. On September 06 2011 23:41 Jackal58 wrote:On September 06 2011 22:34 sandroba wrote: @jackal we know that priest is still alive (and not me because I've been roleblocked) based on the order the effects go through. Protect one wbg/chaos/kenpachi tonight, as one of those ought to be priest.
I'm a little puzzled about your claim and iGrok's flow chart of order of effects. How is a protection role even possible if other effects come after killing effects? huh? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11254029It's not in other effects. Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects. It's a blocking effect. I block all evil doers from visiting a person during that day cycle. If I have chosen a person to protect and scum try to hit them or role block them they are blocked. Scum cannot target a person I am protecting. I have already picked the person I am protecting. I will in all likelihood continue to protect this person as long as I am still alive. No I'm not telling you who it is. bolded red=contradicts mod clarification bold=self contradiction plus rule regarding death contradiction. You say you're not going to tell us who you're protecting but then you claim you're protecting ON (apparently from being ressed.) On September 07 2011 05:30 Jackal58 wrote: Oh and the person I've targeted from evildoers today is ON. You fucking figure it out. The blatant contradiction is that you told us you wouldn't say who you're targetting. Well, now that you've said it you've thrown a bunch of WIFOM into the mix. Then, I think a little less obvious self contradiction is this: You said that you'd be "protecting" this person for the rest of the time you're alive. This doesn't make sense in the context of the target you chose to reveal because, if you wanted to prevent mafia from ressing ON then you would only have to "protect" him once. So, in that case, why would you say that you would be protecting the same person the rest of the time you are alive? Clarified your clarification I just got home from work. I have about 10 minutes before I leave for bowling. I received a PM telling me my role is apparently imba and I can only visit the living. It originally said all players that may be remaining in the game. And yes you pissed me off. So I said what I was doing. You want me to wait til there is 5 minutes left to tell you like Bum did? You'd call me scum for that too. The more I thought about it on my ride home the more it seemed to me that you are the remaining scum. The only people I ever see work so hard to get a person with a protection role lynched is scum. Your arguments against my role are the same arguments you call Ace "noob" repeatedly for using. You can't have it both ways. Odds are I'll be dead shortly. You don't want to waste a shot on me if you can get me lynched. And ya it's easy to say you'll lynch me tomorrow if the games not over because you know the game won't be over either. I hate making an OMGUS but dude you're scum. And btw Ace isn't scum. He doesn't want to get lynched. He wants scum to shoot him. I'd rather he stayed alive for a while. Oh and if you do want to lynch me don't be last to vote for me because you will die. I'm compelled to tell you that after I have received a vote. I am the Guardian Angel. I didn't write my role. I just got stuck with it.
Actually, quite the opposite. Ace told me to leave my vote on him. This makes it apparent that he does wish to be lynched.
But this worries me. It doesn't sit right with me. This doesn't feel like Ace scum play as a couple people have said before. But I don't know the likelihood of a 3rd party role in this set up. I'm somewhat inclined to believe Ace's claim of a super awesome power, but at the same time, I don't want to trust it. Not quite sure how to handle it.
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Oh but wait, I wanted to see Ace's "zomg wtf game ending power".
I am disappoint.
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On September 07 2011 10:41 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 10:37 jcarlsoniv wrote: Oh but wait, I wanted to see Ace's "zomg wtf game ending power".
I am disappoint. You're forgetting the part where he's lying mafia.
Oh, I guess my sarcasm wasn't thick enough.
WTB sarcasm font.
##vote OriginalName
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I can understand why you guys are suspicious of me. But you shouldn't lynch me. This whole game I have atleast been trying to help town. Whether or not I was successful at all is really your call.
Kenpachi, on the other hand, has done shit all to pretend to try to help. I'd be perfectly happy with him being 2nd lynch, but I just despise lurkers.
I can't look too easily cuz im on my phone right now, but we also need to think about the zombie from last night.
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On September 07 2011 20:50 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: I can understand why you guys are suspicious of me. But you shouldn't lynch me. This whole game I have atleast been trying to help town. Whether or not I was successful at all is really your call.
Why exactly are we suspicious of you then?
I've got class for a few hours. I'll respond afterwards.
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On September 08 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote: Personally we should kill the following
ON / Jackal / Myself
But considering ill die next cycle anyway we should focus on Jackal / ON
##Vote Jackal58
Well, if we survive until next cycle, either ace or bum will have been ressed all we'll have to deal with that too.
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On September 08 2011 21:03 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 20:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 07 2011 20:50 chaos13 wrote:On September 07 2011 20:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: I can understand why you guys are suspicious of me. But you shouldn't lynch me. This whole game I have atleast been trying to help town. Whether or not I was successful at all is really your call.
Why exactly are we suspicious of you then? I've got class for a few hours. I'll respond afterwards. Promising to respond and then backing off the pressure. Step up your game if you don't want to get lynched soon. Everybody needs to start talking more. Let's not turn this into another Cosmic Horror where town starts out strong and then derps themselves into the ground.
Yup, my fault. There were some people who raised suspicions because of this post that I made:
On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 10:05 sandroba wrote:On September 05 2011 09:49 Ace wrote: so somehow the Coroner role when divided ends up with a grand total of just 2 checks. Lol wow what bullshit. From the OP: "Not all role descriptions are complete." Don't you thinking by now the real coroner would have counter claimed? Also look at the list of players. If you think the scum team consists of redFF and sinani I don't know what to say. Also if the team is me/redFF/sinani why wouldn't we save redFF from the lynch by blocking one of his voters? What about bum's ridiculous claim have you nothing to say about that? If you argue the inhibitor is not present thus he could not be saved and the lynch results were because of pious I ask you to look at the suposedly townie roles because that would make at least 1 priest 1 medic 1 ridic lawyer claim and very likely a coroner since it's no flip. No roleblocker in this setup? I've been roleblocked twice and you are voting for me without any analysis or reasoning. There is simply no way you are town. I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is".
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On September 06 2011 05:17 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 05:08 wherebugsgo wrote: I didn't actually even think about that.
I think you might be right, Jackal. Also Kenpachi's last post is really makin me suspicious of him.
Lynch kenpachi instead of Ace? Trying to get a read off of Kenpachi is next to impossible. He plays every game like a VI. I don't believe I have played with jcarl before. If I have I died day 1 or 2 and didn't pay any attention to him. You say he's experienced? Right now I think I'd prefer a jcarl lynch. His defense of Bum and his excuse for it screams scum at me. Everything Kenpachi posts just screams trololololo.
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On September 06 2011 05:21 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't know jcarl either, I thought he was new based on how he posted but sandroba said that he's played much longer than he has.
I don't know Kenpachi (or Ace either for that matter) so honestly I can't say anything there either. I'll come back in an hour or two after I've gathered my thoughts on these three (I guess just jcarl/Ace cause kenpachi has like no content whatsoever)
If kenpachi is town and trolling, then derp. I despise lurkers.
Again, I'll say that if you guys really want to end up lynching me, there's little I'll be able to do to stop it. But there are definitely people who should be lynched before me.
I've been thinking and wondering if there could be any merit to jackal's "squash the bug claims". It would be very interesting if WBG ended up just completely fucking the town this whole game.
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On September 09 2011 01:25 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't understand why you guys are just throwing around accusations at this point in the game.
There is plenty of information out there, it's like day 4. If you want to scumhunt, then use it. It doesn't help any of us for you to muddy up the town atmosphere and seed doubt by throwing accusations at people without a shred of analysis behind it.
Just compare my accusation of Jackal to his of me and you'll see exactly what I mean.
I'm not accusing you. I believe your accusation of Jackal is probably accurate. I'm just stating that it would be interesting if Jackal was right.
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On September 09 2011 05:44 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 04:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 09 2011 01:25 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't understand why you guys are just throwing around accusations at this point in the game.
There is plenty of information out there, it's like day 4. If you want to scumhunt, then use it. It doesn't help any of us for you to muddy up the town atmosphere and seed doubt by throwing accusations at people without a shred of analysis behind it.
Just compare my accusation of Jackal to his of me and you'll see exactly what I mean.
I'm not accusing you. I believe your accusation of Jackal is probably accurate. I'm just stating that it would be interesting if Jackal was right. This is not what you stated. You stated that I raised suspicions because of a post I made. Namely, this: Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 00:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:and On September 06 2011 05:21 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't know jcarl either, I thought he was new based on how he posted but sandroba said that he's played much longer than he has.
I don't know Kenpachi (or Ace either for that matter) so honestly I can't say anything there either. I'll come back in an hour or two after I've gathered my thoughts on these three (I guess just jcarl/Ace cause kenpachi has like no content whatsoever)
If kenpachi is town and trolling, then derp. I despise lurkers. Again, I'll say that if you guys really want to end up lynching me, there's little I'll be able to do to stop it. But there are definitely people who should be lynched before me. I've been thinking and wondering if there could be any merit to jackal's "squash the bug claims". It would be very interesting if WBG ended up just completely fucking the town this whole game.
Nooo, I meant that you had raised your own suspicions about me. That was in response to chaos asking "why are we suspicious of you".
If you have suspicions, be clear about them. Explain to us why you have these suspicions. Or, follow through on them. Investigate them. Provoke your targets into making mistakes. Don't sit around and idly speculate, because that creates doubt and it is beneficial for mafia. It's beneficial to mafia to think, "oh, what if this guy is right?" and then not actually do anything about it. If you think there's a possibility that someone is right about something that may be currently overlooked, do something about it.
You are right. I do have some work to do to be a better town player. However, I would rather try and fail than not to anything at all.
I don't understand why you seem so afraid to be lynched, either. That has been eluding me.
I'm not afraid to be lynched. I just don't want the town to waste a lynch on a green.
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gg, sorry for being a nub
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