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On September 04 2011 13:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 12:53 redFF wrote:i'd prefer not to tell the whole thread sinani's role but i think it's fairly obvious considering everything that i have said up to this point. as to the whole roleblocker minion wifom thing i have no need to think about or try to reason with that because its all wifom/pointless trying to explain night kills/where kp comes from when the important thing in this game is scumhunting. On September 04 2011 12:39 redFF wrote:
ace/bum/originalname scumteam. jvcarlson is just new and doesnt know whats up. notice how ace's ONLY contribution is starting a bandwagon on me in an attempt to shift votes off of bum and ON. gg scum, gg. "I don't wanna say anything about his role, but based upon what I've said, you should already know." You know what sucks about that red? The scum (your) team knows more than we do. So anything that we should already know, the scum (your) team knows too. So what have you done? Imagine this from a town point of view. You're making it quite obvious that you want us to think sinani was coroner. You want him revived. ...k? So he gets revived today, and then sniped tonight. So what has he done for us? Jack shit.
do you understand how this game's setup works.
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On September 04 2011 13:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
Good god why are we wasting more time speculating about this shit?
If we lynch mafia during the day, for example from 3 mafia to 2 mafia, does it reduce their KP that same day? e.g. would we see 1 mafia kill instead of 2?
I dunno bro why are we?
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Oh hi ON, I see you've really contributed a lot there.
Mind sharing your thoughts on bum and red?
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On September 04 2011 13:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
Good god why are we wasting more time speculating about this shit?
If we lynch mafia during the day, for example from 3 mafia to 2 mafia, does it reduce their KP that same day? e.g. would we see 1 mafia kill instead of 2?
Yes.
Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects.
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Wow Ace, it was time you showed your face. I won't go into a long winded analysis because I still want to lynch bum and ON today, but Ace is scum. There is simply no way redFF is mafia, despite whatever he claimed, it's not something mafia would do in this situation. You are not looking at behaviour here, you are trying to captalize on a mistake some townie made to get him lynched, which is how you play as scum. You also don't know if redFF is lying about not having more checks, so you are blatantly pushing mafia objetives here. redFF is the most terrible lynch for today and you know it. Also we MUST lynch 2 people today, so you DO have to wheigh in on more subjects. While I agree that giving your whole town list/scum list is generaly not a good idea you HAVE to wheigh in on the subjects being discussed for a lynch. That's how you play the game and make an impact. Not doing it means you are trying to hide, which is what you are doing. You are scum sir.
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On September 03 2011 09:42 Ace wrote:
Coroner, I know you have a pretty tricky job to do but I'm going to help you out. Since you can't communicate with me I'll just give you a name:
Check the corpse of Sinani. If you dont say anything once the corpse is checked, I will take your silence as confirmation of Sinani's innocence. That way the priest can revive him knowing he is town aligned.
Otherwise take the chance and speak out if you find Sinani to be Scum.
Let me point to this blatant contradiction in Ace's logic. He thinks it's a good move for the coroner to claim if he found a dead scum. But when the coroner has the oportunity to counter claim and get us living scum, then NO, that is a bad move because we are not at lylo and would never happen. You are full of shit and just want redFF lynched.
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*chuckles*
That was cute. But your still terrible.
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What annoys me greatly is that one of you redff voters is not scum and is terrible. Please reconsider.
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On September 04 2011 21:28 Ace wrote:
*chuckles*
That was cute. But your still terrible.
Great defense. Care to back pedal now or are you are just going to make it obvious you are scum?
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what am I defending myself against? Lets be serious here. I'm not going to argue with you when redFF is on the ropes. I'm not going to talk about bum or ON because I dont think they are important right now. My vote is where it is and I've given lots of reasons why. You came to some spotty conclusions but can't give reasons why.
How about you go ahead and give a "long winded analysis" of why I'm Scum. Go for it so I can pick it apart like and eat your face like I do to all Scum everywhere.
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What I said is enough. Are you forgetting we have 2 lynches to deal with? Or you simply do not care who is lynched after redFF? What about the contradiction I pointed out which completely nullifies your reason for voting redFF, because a coroner would TOTALLY counter claim him giving us free scum? There is simply no reason for scum in redFF's position to claim that shit. He wasn't even up for discussion as a lynch, he had nothing to gain. Also why claim that convoluted shit as scum when he could safely claim coroner for the exact same effect and draw less suspicion? Makes NO SENSE at all as scum.
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And yes redFF claim is pure dumb and he didn't use his power wisely, I agree. Does that make him scum? How exactly? Why do you want him dead? You don't even consider the idea that he might be telling the truth. That's scum ace at work right here.
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why would a coroner counter claim when no one will know if he was telling the truth when he dies - no one can check the body.
derp?
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derp why would he claim he found scum in the situation where he found sinani as scum when no one will know if he was telling the truth - mafia can counter claim him or real coroner could counter claim him we have no idea derp. It gives info and you take it and make something out of it, not trust it 100%. The key here is unecessary risk that mafia is unwilling to take.
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If redFF was scum and willing to take that risk wouldn't he fucking claim he was coroner found sinani as scum and try to lynch me that defended sinani and someone trow suspicion on people not voting for him. Claiming like he did serves no purpose for mafia, let's not get absurd here.
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Scumteam=bum, ON, Ace. ON hasn't replied to me, bum is going for red's lynch while simultaneously trying to keep sinani dead and sandroba lynched, and Ace is just being stupid and focusing on one lynch, calling people dumb (when he's missing shitloads of things himself) when he KNOWS there's a double lynch.
Also, since none of you seem to have noticed, the reason bum is fine with being lynched himself when we're lynching red is because a 1 for 1 trade for mafia right now is really good when we'd otherwise be killing two of them. This also makes sense in the context or WHEN bum voted.
I changed my vote from ON to bum at the critical juncture of 3 votes, giving bum 4. This basically means bum will get lynched barring some super fluke, in the case when we have 4/2/2/1. HOWEVER, like an hour after me he switched to red, making it 4/3 on him and red and making it very possible to escape again.
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Fucking iPhone it should be *of when bum voted
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On September 04 2011 21:28 Ace wrote:
*chuckles*
That was cute. But your still terrible.
*you're.
Also Ace you're wrong, sandroba is pretty much the best player we have on town ATM lol.
+ Show Spoiler +
The guy who voted red who isn't mafia is joncarl whatever the hell his name is. He's new. SWITCH YOUR VOTE
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Another point is that if we had a cc we could simply lynch both and get 1 mafia lynched 100% of the time, which is a good deal.
Now let's look at this setup. The whole point is ressurection and no flips. Both necro and priest can only perform their actions and be relevant by day3. It makes a lot of fucking sense to make sure the game goes for that long, thus mafia number is almost certainly 3 because we could be at lylo right now if it was anything more. Another point is that it's possible and likely to have the necro/coroner/priest dead by that point. What's the solution if we want to preserve the theme of the setup? You make the necro a pass over role like it's pointed in the OP. You make back-up roles for coroner and priest so they have a chance to act. That's what makes sense. No insult to redFF, but I don't think he has done this kind of analysis before hand and thus concluded this is a plausible claim as mafia and then risked the coroner being alive before claiming. NO. He did not. He is indeed the back-up coroner and if you lynch him you are dumb or scum.
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JC is not new btw, he is way more experienced than I am.
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