EPT2 at once is nothing. What happened to Pony Mafia, bro?
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2 at once is nothing. What happened to Pony Mafia, bro? | ||
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Just warning everybody in advance. | ||
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why is kenpachi smurfing as lucidity? | ||
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a post doesn't have to be huge to make a point. Please be concise, everybody. | ||
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just sayin. When you vote, vote for scum. Vote with the intention of lynching whoever you're voting for. Don't just mindlessly vote for people for "pressure," and if you are, for the love of god don't tell the person that you're voting for that it's pressure. | ||
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On August 19 2011 18:56 Erandorr wrote: Oh and concerning bandwagon votes, you realize that I had posted NOTHING up until now , so isn't it in fact bandwagon if you decide to vote on someone after a couple of hours just because palmar said so? why so defensive bro? | ||
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On August 19 2011 19:16 Palmar wrote: lol guys, DB is obvious scum. could you give me a reason to believe you? | ||
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no better and no worse than about half the posts in this game. I don't have a problem with anything he said. | ||
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lol Sevryn. sheeping on palmar's bullshit wagon because he was town in SH Mafia? Being right in the past does not mean he's right now. Evaluate each case on its merits, not based on how good at mafia you think the accuser is. | ||
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On August 20 2011 03:30 DropBear wrote: There is the option of the "mayor" to be the one who switches to ensure a lynch, as opposed to them telling other people to change. If we have someone designated then it reduces last second shenanigans. Would this be more palatable? do we need to elect that lol? If you want to switch your vote to make sure that somebody dies feel free, and be prepared to be held responsible for the results. On August 20 2011 03:30 Sevryn wrote: Did you or varp read my post I said it was a pressure vote I don't need to believe palmar to pressure vote to try and find out if he is right... did you miss my post where i said pressure votes are bad? Get out of jail free card for scum looking to hop onto an easy bandwagon. If you get called out "no it's ok it was just pressure" | ||
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This is a bad assumption. Townies can be wrong, townies can disagree. The key is to see how the guy is defending him. Is he being wishy washy? is his post overly safe? Are there obvious logical fallacies? with that said, supersoft's summary post accomplishes nothing and is pretty damn wishy washy. "I see innocence... however that doesn't mean he's town" does not compute. | ||
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filter his posts. Now tell me if a single one is productive and helpful. He blindly tunnels DropBear based on meta (i think, it's such a terrible accusation though that it's not worth trying to figure out), then calls everybody who disagrees with him scum. Chaos13 makes a very good point: On August 20 2011 10:14 chaos13 wrote: Palmar as town is The Brother Leader and Guide of Town. I see absolutely none of that here. So far all he has done is cause mayhem and spam and disorganization and a generally very unhelpful pro-mafia atmosphere. if i recall correctly, town won that game, largely due to the organization that palmar provided. Why change a good strategy? Because his goals are different in this game. | ||
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On August 20 2011 11:11 Palmar wrote: Anyone who thinks I'm promoting pro-mafia atmosphere needs to have his head checked. I took this thread and turned it from discussing vague plans and policies to a full-out scumhunting festival. by calling dropbear scum 20 times in a row? | ||
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On August 20 2011 16:35 Foolishness wrote: I would also like to beg to differ that I'm "defending" him. I'm not convinced yet that he's mafia, and I stated why I think that. Thus I'd rather take the wait and see approach. As I somewhat said, he's already got a few strikes; if he doesn't shape up then we kill him. Just because I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt right now does not mean I am defending him. I don't defend other people, I state why or how their actions could be misconstrued. On August 20 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote: hmm, sevryns behavior had something innocent in my eyes i don't know... Somehow I tend to buy that story... I mean the whole thing started like that: Basic situation: He knew Palmar from former games; and we all know that palmar played some good games for town recently - Palmar accuses DB; I jump on that wagon but declare it as a pressurevote. Varp shows up, says pressurevotes only work if you don't say it's a pressurevote (i 75% agree with that statement) Now the poor sevryn sees all this: he also wants to contribute something by pressurevoting, so he fakes his reason and follows varps advice and gets caught immediately... However that doesn't mean he's town. If he flips scum i know who to look at next, which makes this a very good lynch. It provides information and has a good a shot as any at getting scum. Why he's scummy has been covered before, but in short, he made an absolutely bullshit vote then called it pressure when he got called out for it: + Show Spoiler [quotes] + On August 19 2011 23:39 Sevryn wrote: Right now DB is looking the scummiest imo and after what palmar did in Swedish house mafia I am inclined to trust him. That said if there is a good case against anyone else i would be willing to give DropBear another lookskie ## vote DropBear sheeping vote and trusting Palmar unconditionally On August 20 2011 00:56 Sevryn wrote: His play was basicly them same in that game so I'm inclined to belive him do you have a better target? defending his sheeping vote On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote: Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game. backing out of his vote, calling it pressure, and defending his bullshit by saying it was intentional. And now he's lurking hardcore. verdict: SCUM ##vote sevryn + Show Spoiler + also his name is fucking impossible to spell  | ||
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##vote Rayzorflash was at a dinner party, Would rather kill Rayzor than sevryn at this point. | ||
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On August 21 2011 10:31 Vain wrote: Ok, i think i'm gonna vote on Rayzorflash. I just don't believe a scum would vote that fast. No, wait scrap that.Sevryn voted as 3rd for DropBear. you can say what you want about his defence but he only started with the "pressure vote" after people asked what he was doing and that counts to me more than anything. steam of thought posts are not appreciated, please make your posts readable and understandable. | ||
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Could a vig please kill lucidity? he's emulating Kenpachi, and managing to be less helpful. Completely unreadable and unhelpful, and yet he's not under and pressure or getting any attention. I'd like him gone, ASAP. With that said, I'm going to vote Mig, who i have a more confident read on. He's defending himself by saying that meta arguments are bad while at the same time attacking Chaoser for meta reasons. On August 22 2011 17:51 Mig wrote: Chaoser you are technically correct but really you are twisting my words around to try and make me appear scummy. Not all meta arguments are the same, you didn't see me disagreeing with other meta arguments foolish had made in the thread. But his meta argument about how my "attitude" was different and therefore mafia was incorrect. He provided no examples of me acting that way as mafia and that attitude hadn't done anything to hurt the town. My meta argument against you was completely different. As town I have seen you dominate and put a ton of effort into scum hunting. This game I see you writing complete fluff posts and providing no analysis while making an excuse for being busy. Anyone can look at your play in mafia 39 and see how different it is compared to this game. Foolishness' meta argument didn't show one way or the other whether I was town and it didn't show how I was harming the town with my play however your play style is a complete 180 from your normal town play and is considerably worse than normal for you. So instead of providing any real analysis this game you started off with A) writing fluff posts B) voted for me basically just saying yea I agree with foolish then disappeared before the lynch and now C) you are twisting my words around to make me appear scummy when it should be obvious how different my argument was from the one foolish made. #Vote: chaoser ##vote Mig | ||
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And as a MEDIC? I suggest we let the mafia deal with them. If they leave him alive to make him seem suspicious, we have a medic for town to control. Get a dt to check him, and bob's your uncle. | ||
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Hiro's looking pretty damn scummy right now, considering changing my vote to him. | ||
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When reading through his posts, i also found this gems: On August 21 2011 07:54 hiro protagonist wrote: yeah DropBear, I would lynch me for exactly those reasons to. Problem is, I know Im town. thanks for calling me out on it though  I would be down with lynching RayzorFlash "yeah i'm acting scummy and you should lynch people who act like me, but i'm town, i promise". Nice scumlogic you got there, bro. ##vote Hiro Protagonist oh, and i saw this when I f5'd the thread before posting: On August 24 2011 05:08 hiro protagonist wrote: Wow, Ok, no one likes that idea. does everyone think Im stupid? ##Unvote: DropBear Im just gonna sheep whoever is the highest vote is by the end of the day. wowowowow. Relieving himself of all responsibility for the lynch. nice try scum. | ||
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I still like Hiro as a lynch, I'd consent to switching to Mig if necessary though. xtfftc... i dunno, not seeing the scum there, but any lynch is better than no lynch. | ||
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(i did say i'd be around, didn't i?) | ||
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Why does everybody in this game feel the need to fake claim? | ||
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I apologize in advance if you're not. Welcome to the game! Town is currently a mess, DropBear is an idiot, and scum is most likely laughing their head's off right about now. I'm going to bed. | ||
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Foolishness's accusation of BrownBear convinced me more of Mig's scumminess than of BB's. complete null read on Lucid, can't make sense of his posts either way. Nard is totally dismissive of all accusations and I've got a gut feeling that he's scum, just filtering his posts. Really not sure though. Lucidity is scummy, because he -wanted to kill a claimed medic -wishy washy with his thoughts and suspicions -believes Hiro's claim, then calls people scummy for doing the same. trotske... I don't know. he was afk and now he's been replaced. Let's see what iGrok does. | ||
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On August 26 2011 08:31 Varpulis wrote: ##vote Mig Foolishness's accusation of BrownBear convinced me more of Mig's scumminess than of BB's. Nard is totally dismissive of all accusations and I've got a gut feeling that he's scum, just filtering his posts. Really not sure though. Lucidity is scummy, because he -wanted to kill a claimed medic -wishy washy with his thoughts and suspicions -believes Hiro's claim, then calls people scummy for doing the same. trotske... I don't know. he was afk and now he's been replaced. Let's see what iGrok does. read through his posts more carefully and changed my mind, then forgot to proofread. TT | ||
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On August 26 2011 10:33 wherebugsgo wrote: Let's assume there is one, and work that way? We need to work with our worst case scenarios. Assume there's no blues, and that there is a traitor. Why don't we not discuss what roles are/aren't in the game? it accomplishes little to nothing, and doesn't help us scumhunt. rolecrafting in a semi open setup without pms isn't worth much of anything. | ||
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##vote Vain Also, Bumatlarge is scum. Without a shadow if a doubt, he's scum. Because we already have 2 good targets today, both very likely mafia (one called scum by a dead watcher, one called scum by a living dt) I'm not going to push for his lynch today, but I want to say it before I forget. I'll expand on these after I wake up, it's 2am where I am right now. | ||
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On August 28 2011 15:15 wherebugsgo wrote: Hey bumatlarge: What's your analysis of of Visceraeyes, Rayzor, and xt? I want to know your thoughts. I think we should think this through carefully. Once vain and nard are back (it's fairly early in Europe right now, no?) and can claim we can choose the correct target. Vain's my personal preference as of now. There's no margin for error when a dt comes out and says "he's scum". I believe Chaoser's claim. In an ideal world, we lynch either nard or vain today, the other gets vigged tonight, and we lynch brownbear tomorrow, for 3 scum dead in 2 days. | ||
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If you want to argue the possibility that vain's a miller, the same argument can be made replacing vain with nard and miller with nosy neighbor. For the purposes of my decision, I'm ignoring both possibilities. I would like to stress that I'm not against lynching nard. In fact I would hope that he dies too, and soon. I simply think that it's better to lynch vain first. I really do need sleep, so I'll revisit this tomorrow when I'm not dead tired; maybe I'm missing something. Hopefully both will have claimed by then, and we can move forwards from there. | ||
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On August 28 2011 21:55 chaos13 wrote: nard is 100% mafia. Foolish would not have missed considering all the possibilities. He had to have watched someone who died, and nard was the ONLY person visiting them. There can be no mistake here. A 100% confirmed watcher has given us a 100% confirmed mafia I'll go with a confirmed blue before a likely blue. We can take out Vain tomorrow, or tonight if we still have a vigilante. nard is a priority because someone we know has a power role that can prove people as mafia has stated that nard is mafia. after a very refreshing rest, I think i'll switch my vote. chaos13 is right, in that foolishness knows what's up, and wouldn't go so far as to say that nard is 100% mafia unless he was absolutely sure. also (though this is theorycrafty) 2 nosy neighbors have already flipped, so i think it's not likely for nard to be one to. | ||
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On August 29 2011 00:35 nard wrote: this list xtfftc? I disagree with Barundar (and me obviously) being scummy. So far he didn't appear on my scum-o-meter at all. BrownBear and Pyo are my main candidates - i have to filter RayzorFlash again but all i can remember are accusations against him by supersoft... which i can't take too seriously. BrownBear: caught my attention with his first throw-away vote on JeeJee. I kept re-reading his posts but couldn't put my finger on it what exactly made him stand out. Foolishness' case made it clearer for me, no need to repeat his analysis. his replacement threw me off a little though, i don't have a good read on him. Pyo: this is how you lurk as scum. my safest guess. other people who make me curious: Lucidity, Vain, Kurumi and xtfftc i will be back online in ~2 hours. is it correct that Foolishness watching me visit Mig on the night of his death does mean there is godfather in the game? Or is there a third possibility (in your eyes, besides me being scum)? scum. wishy washy and non accusatory when talking about fellow scum. | ||
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On August 30 2011 02:23 bumatlarge wrote: So you're going to sit back and let him get away with doing this after nailing it on the head dude? If nard is scum and I get lynched tomorrow it will be at 7v4 when the next kills roll in, and even if we lynch vain>WBG right after, it will be 3v2 which is VERY difficult for town to win in. You can't wait to see flips at this point you have think it all out like you just did and act. weird. I'm almost 100% certain that we'll be at 7v3 after lynching you. I think you forgot to subtract the one. | ||
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On August 30 2011 03:30 Vain wrote: Sucks i can't just magically make scum appear. If i'm scum you want all reads you can get. If i turn out town you don't get any information from my town or scum reads. It's the reasoning behind the reads that seperates the scum from town. Now the next time when you feel to call someone out just close teamliquid and take a break. There was nothing in your post that asked for scumreads reads mean scumreads. townreads are beyond useless, unless you're discussing a lynch candidate who you believe to be town. this post literally SCREAMS scum. Especially the bolded part. yes we do, we get the opinions of somebody we know the alignment of, which is impossible while you're alive. You've claimed that you're town, so why don't you go about proving it? Scumhunt, weigh in on suspects, DO SOMETHING. Also, telling people not to call people out is bad. Really bad. WBG, read this post, and tell me if he's town that got framed. I seriously can't believe how you think that, especially after reading posts like this. | ||
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On August 30 2011 03:51 chaoser wrote: So you basically said you don't want to give reads cause if you were scum, it's bad for you, and it you're town we don't get any info from it? Yeah ok lol. The fact that you even mentioned that if you WERE scum it'd be bad for you is telling enough for me. I'm pretty sure my check was correct. Lynch him tomorrow. I'd be quite disappointed in our vigis if he's still alive tomorrow (assuming kurumi isn't the only one) A double lynch would be nice right about now. | ||
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On August 30 2011 04:36 Navillus wrote: Ahhhhhhh don't modkill me! sorry I had my power go out the day after the hurricane, ok I didn't miss a vote but give me time to catch up, if the night post is like about to happen then ##Vote Brownbear just so I have a vote in but really I have to read everything from the last day or so. you've got a little over 6 hours (i think, might be 5) brownbear has been replaced with bumatlarge. foolishess flipped watcher when scum killed him, before he died said that nard was scum. On August 28 2011 10:55 Foolishness wrote: nard is 100% mafia. If I die it will be instantly clear how I know this information. Yes it's 100%. I wanted to bring this information up yesterday but the timing never came, especially after Mig claimed. It should be clear why I had everyone write up what they thought about those 3 people. Make sure to look at the people who didn't respond to that (there are a few who did, and they are all on my suspect list). Kill nard today so that the mafia will have their KP reduced. Mafia list: nard, BrownBear, Barundar, Pyo, RayzorFlash. If one of those flip green then Erandorr. chaoser claimed dt with a guilty check on vain. On August 28 2011 11:11 chaoser wrote: Alright guys, since foolishness has fallen, I fear soon for my life... I am a DT Inquisitor - welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are High Inquisitor Scarn, here in liquidia on independent assignment to lead the actions against the cult. You are perhaps the oldest living inquisitor, and with age comes experience and wisdom . You scorn weapons as below the dignity of an Inquisitor, instead you will use your investigative abilities to crush the cult.You may check a player each night and see if he is Innocent or Guilty . Be cautious however, ever since you took a blow to the head while facing off against the Deamon Lord Sepultus in the ancient abandoned temple of the burning flame you have been unsure of the reliability of your investigative abilities and even of your grasp on reality. I checked Mig night one and got back guilty which is why I've been on his ass for so long. To check my own sanity I checked Foolishness night two and got back green so I know I'm sane. When mig flipped red it proved it beyond a doubt. I checked vain last night and got back [r]red[/r]. I say we lynch vain today over since I'm more sure of his scumminess over nard's. EDITTED: in exactly how my pm looks we need to lynch scumatlarge asap, but nard is getting lynched first because he's scum according to a confirmed blue. | ||
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On August 30 2011 04:53 Navillus wrote: Oh lol I was here when brownbear switched out I just forgot, ok so ##Unvote ##Vote Nard Has there been any discussion or confirmation of chaoser's sanity? On August 28 2011 11:11 chaoser wrote: I checked Mig night one and got back guilty which is why I've been on his ass for so long. To check my own sanity I checked Foolishness night two and got back green so I know I'm sane. When mig flipped red it proved it beyond a doubt. I checked vain last night and got back red. I say we lynch vain today over since I'm more sure of his scumminess over nard's. He's sane as sane can be. | ||
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pretty nice 180 from On August 28 2011 07:25 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm down to kill vain today. and On August 28 2011 12:45 wherebugsgo wrote: Curu they're both mafia, I think that's fairly obvious. to On August 29 2011 03:46 wherebugsgo wrote: Bumatlarge is SCREAMING framer to me. Kill him tomorrow. Vain is likely to be innocent. Today we kill nard. After bum we consider pyo and Rayzor. #5 I'm still working on...lol. Some analysis to come soon when I'm back on my computer. I'm not seeing how bum is "SCREAMING framer," but I want to lynch him next anyways. | ||
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On August 30 2011 04:11 Vain wrote: I am just filtering people one by one and trying to reason why someone is town/scum. If you see something faulty in my reasoning or see a hidden agenda give me a call. How the fuck are you otherwise gonna know if i'm scum or not. Your just like chaos and lucid in your nice little world where i'm undoubtedly scum, while the mafia is just laughing their asses off because their plan worked out perfectly. Also i don't proofread my posts for scummy behaviour because i'm not scum This was 6 hours ago. He hasn't posted anything useful since. First bold: he says that we'll be able to determine if he's scum or not by evaluating his reasoning. The very reasoning that he has yet to provide, despite constant prodding. This is a scum tactic if ever i've seen one. second bold: most cop-out excuse ever. townies actually don't do that either, the key difference is that townies don't have an agenda to push or a slip to cover up. If they accuse a townie or make bad decisions they get called out, which is the last thing mafia wants, hence the lack of content from vain. I'm down to lynch bum, but I wouldn't mind a vig hit on vain in between. bum will flip scum, as will vain. The order doesn't really matter to me. | ||
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On August 30 2011 10:46 wherebugsgo wrote: He tends to do that, just like sevryn and hiro posted "scummily." Vain's "scumminess" that everyone keeps talking about (and that I thought I was seeing) is, I think, just dumbness. Also, his current lack of activity can be explained by the fact that he lives in Europe. We had this same problem with supersoft, kurumi, and nard. Lack of activity at certain times of the day I don't think necessarily has correlated very much to being mafia in this game. I'd like to point out, also, that Pyo is the only person to have left a vote on vain. I still consider him a top suspect after bum. You seem to be missing the fact that he told us, explicitly, that he was filtering people and looking for scum. I'm not faulting him for going to bed, I'm accusing him for not posting his reads before he did so, as he said he would The argument "he's not mafia, he's just dumb" is faulty, imo. I've played with him before, and he's not an idiot. | ||
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vigi's kill bumatlarge/vain. Both are scum, we'll end up lynching them anyways, you're just saving us time by shooting them in their scummy heads. | ||
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On August 30 2011 11:23 chaoser wrote: I have a similar list but I think vain is a better candidate for mafia than kurumi. I am unwilling to let someone who I checked to be red to not be lynched, especially since all his posts/actions so far have been extremely suspicious. I still believe that you are trying to fit everything into a scenario that you believe to be correct instead of looking at the whole thing objectively. The whole thing is a giant exercise in "Wine in front of me". What if the mafia knew people who take it that way and acted accordingly to get one of their suspected off the grid? I doubt bum would be dumb enough to immediately push for vain's lynch today right at the start of the day over nard's. He's a vet player for a reason. In my opinion this is just a giant mind screw/ploy to leave vain alive and have only two mafia lynched over three and to undermine my check. I'd rather be safe than sorry. this man speaks the truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6wqKb8EUxI mandatory viewing. And another thing: Occam's razor. What are the facts here? With the singular assumption that chaoser is in fact a detective, we have the following facts:
What are the explanations for this?
there are three assumptions that must be correct for the third option to be the correct one, and one of them is counting on a role that might not be in the game being present. Occam's razor says that the most simple solution is usually correct, and WBG's solution is by no means the most simple. The possibility of vain being a miller is valid, but based on his posting i believe him to be scum. | ||
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On August 30 2011 11:37 wherebugsgo wrote: And of course, lynching vain, even if he is mafia, gives us no information because he's said nothing. There are no links between vain and anyone really. I've got an idea! let's lynch mafia because they're mafia, not because of the information that we'll get. | ||
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On August 30 2011 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote: If we're working on the assumption that both vain and bum are mafia, then I say bum is the better choice because lynching bum gives us information. How hard is that to comprehend? Forget my thoughts for a second here and just reason that out. read your post bro. I read that as a defense of vain because the lynch wouldn't tell us anything (untrue as that statement may be). As i keep saying, I just want them both dead, the order doesn't matter. vigilantes pick whichever one you think is scummier, i can guarantee that bum will flip scum, 95% sure on vain. | ||
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Why are you claiming halfway through the night? Why are you claiming without a red check (one that counts. We already knew that vain is mafia, WBG just doesn't want to admit that he's wrong). This claim sounds to me like "no don't vig shot me, i'm a dt I PROMISE" | ||
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Where are your breadcrumbs? First thing a dt does upon getting a red check is breadcrumb, in my experience. You say you checked Vain night 2, but your first mention of him, here, is during day three, and is simply agreeing with chaoser. On August 31 2011 01:04 Pyo wrote: As for why claim during nighttime, well exactly because they wouldn't shoot the most hardcore lurker... and because there's another DT claim. Mafia have 2KP so they can't kill us both if there's still a medic. They can try to shoot both of us and one of us will definitely live or they can split their votes and still have one of us definitely live. Claiming right now seems to be perfectly safe. this is not town logic. Night is dangerous for townies, and especially dangerous for claimed dts. Mafia, however, is more comfortable at night, and are only afraid of vigilantes. This claim seems to me like a method to avoid the attention (or, more accurately, the shots) of mafia's only nighttime predator. On August 31 2011 01:48 Pyo wrote: bumatlarge - no idea really, I thought BB was scum, but the sub (and the need to be subbed in the first place) has thrown me off so I don't really know. WBG's analysis of him felt like bullshit though. wishy washy as hell. Using the replacement as an excuse to not form an opinion. Also nicely discrediting WBG. Vain - I voted for him after having checked him, what do you think I think of him? again, a day later with no breadcrumbs, and only once another dt claimed kurumi - As far as I'm concerned he isn't even playing this game. I don't read his posts - I might have an aneurism if I actually do. nice dodge. "i don't read his posts so i don't have an opinion" Rayzorflash - I feel like he's scum. I checked errandor for more or less the same reason I am suspicious of rayzor - somewhat late bandwagon votes on mig and lurking nearly as much as me. lol. he's scummy because he's lurking almost as much as you. Nice logic there scum Also, checking jackal night 1 did not confirm my sanity since naive DT's will return green for everyone. my responses in green italics. I suggest we lynch bum -> vain -> pyo. vigs feel free to speed things up. | ||
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On August 31 2011 03:20 Varpulis wrote: AND ANOTHER THING Where are your breadcrumbs? First thing a dt does upon getting a red check is breadcrumb, in my experience. You say you checked Vain night 2, but your first mention of him, here, is during day three, and is simply agreeing with chaoser. just realized that day three is directly after night 2. I'm going to fail math class this coming semester, i know it. point still stands, no breadcrumbs whatsoever. | ||
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Varpulis
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On August 31 2011 03:22 Varpulis wrote: just realized that day three is directly after night 2. I'm going to fail math class this coming semester, i know it. point still stands, no breadcrumbs whatsoever. WAIT WAIT WAIT yesterday was day 4. my first post had the days wrong, but was correct in that a full game day passed between him returning the check and him mentioning vain. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On August 31 2011 07:44 wherebugsgo wrote: Are you going to post scumreads or not? This post is like...not enough. To me it has the air of a townie who's just given up, but we need more from you, otherwise you're gonna get lynched. In fact I'm pretty sure most people want to lynch you first, so you need to give us some great reasons not to. it's nighttime. not a single vote has been cast, or can be cast until about 3 hours from now. He hasn't provided the reads that he said he was working on obtaining more than 24 hours ago. How do townies give up 78 hours before they get lynched? (assuming we lynch him today as planned) | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On August 31 2011 08:05 Vain wrote: Yeah, i know that and its not gonna change with mafia hammering on me and i know i can't defend myself because i just stupidly followed the rest:\ Maybe i'll put some time into this tomorrow but i don't really think i'll live up to that cause its my bday tomorrow. here's the thing. There's a red check on you, which is evidence nobody can refute. You're going to get lynched, and if you're a townie, the best thing that you can do is leave us with your reads and opinions. The fact that you refuse to do so is incredibly scummy. | ||
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Varpulis
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Varpulis
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*WINK WINK* | ||
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Varpulis
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sorry scumatlarge | ||
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Varpulis
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<3 | ||
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