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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 21 2011 03:45 GMT
#661
On August 21 2011 12:42 GreYMisT wrote:
wait a minute, i cant vote on nights can I?

You *can* but they won't count. We'd also rather you didn't since it makes figuring out the voting thread harder ^_^
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 21 2011 03:47 GMT
#662
my newness is showing!
how embarressing...

Shall I edit my vote in the voting thread to make it easier?
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 21 2011 03:49 GMT
#663
On August 21 2011 12:47 GreYMisT wrote:
my newness is showing!
how embarressing...

Shall I edit my vote in the voting thread to make it easier?

dont worry about it, when the day starts I make a post as a bookmark anyway ^_^
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 21 2011 03:50 GMT
#664
Got it, thanks.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
August 21 2011 03:50 GMT
#665
Just got back home and got a chance to go over everything that happened since my last post and woww, you guys seriously almost lynched me for (what seems to me like) no valid reason except that you didn't want to lynch Sev??

Anyways, as I said earlier, I fully expect to be on top of the most suspected list since Sev came up green, but I do wanna look at how exactly this wave of bandwagoning against me started...

Just to be clear:
- Jackal is against me because he thinks that, since I'm a new player, for me to be participating at all means I'm being coached, instead of meaning that I may actually have researched the game and have a sense of how to play??
- Sevryn was against me because I was making the strongest case against him, this one at least I understand...
- Palmar is against me... just because, i guess??
- Curu is against me for planning where to point the finger after the first day, without realizing that I actually said that the finger would be pointed at ME after the first day??
- And as far as I can see, everyone else just sort of climbed on top there??

I don't think any of these reasons is really strong enough to lynch me over Sev based on the evidence presented so far, yet you guys nearly did it... I must admit, I'm very surprised...

(Also, DropBear, filter Sev's posts, or check the voting thread... My stealth vote came before he pulled his vote off... It was definitely a pressure vote, though I don't know if it was done perfectly)

Also, saw somewhere in there that xtfftc asked who else would be on my list of people who have aggressively attacked Sev... it would be:
- Myself
- Nard
- Munk-e
- Mig
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
August 21 2011 08:07 GMT
#666
The sevryn wagon was way too easy, and I hope some of the loud townies who refused to listen yesterday re-read the thread and reevaluate their suspects in the light of them being wrong. At least the chaos before lynch put some people into the spotlight, in a way I don't think mafia would have done.

Jackal looks suspicious, he voted for ray, but completely ignored the case during the chaos when everyone else joined it. He then apologized to sevryn upon lynch, so he was clearly present. Looks like guilt, and that he is holding back, signs he got something to hide.

Both foolishness and mig looks suspicious to me at this point. Foolishness is playing way off his standard trolling day 1, and I don't know what he was doing on a wagon he had a blue read on. Mig has been pushing for chaoser, but at least he is doing something now.

Regarding chaoser, he has had some great games as town, but his last game as town was PYP3, and he had a pretty bad showing there. Careful with pure meta.
Bartundar
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 21 2011 08:10 GMT
#667
On August 21 2011 10:22 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:
Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S.

Does anyone think a scum would say such a thing? Especially considering he said this when everyone was voting for Sevryn?

Yes, they would. Don't forget that Rayzor said this right after I challenged his previous post.

On August 21 2011 12:50 RayzorFlash wrote:
Also, saw somewhere in there that xtfftc asked who else would be on my list of people who have aggressively attacked Sev... it would be:
- Myself
- Nard
- Munk-e
- Mig

Thanks, you took your time ^^
Care to elaborate a bit on your list? If you are town, you should be happy to share your thoughts with us; if you are mafia, you have to do it anyway to ease the suspicion from your persona.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 21 2011 09:02 GMT
#668
Can I yell at town now?
Computer says mafia
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 21 2011 11:23 GMT
#669
On August 21 2011 18:02 Palmar wrote:
Can I yell at town now?


a beautiful good morning to you too

Palmar what are your thoughts about Vain ?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 21 2011 11:29 GMT
#670
Or nard , rayzor xtfftc come to think of it
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 21 2011 11:43 GMT
#671
On August 21 2011 17:07 Barundar wrote:
The sevryn wagon was way too easy, and I hope some of the loud townies who refused to listen yesterday re-read the thread and reevaluate their suspects in the light of them being wrong. At least the chaos before lynch put some people into the spotlight, in a way I don't think mafia would have done.

Jackal looks suspicious, he voted for ray, but completely ignored the case during the chaos when everyone else joined it. He then apologized to sevryn upon lynch, so he was clearly present. Looks like guilt, and that he is holding back, signs he got something to hide.

Both foolishness and mig looks suspicious to me at this point. Foolishness is playing way off his standard trolling day 1, and I don't know what he was doing on a wagon he had a blue read on. Mig has been pushing for chaoser, but at least he is doing something now.

Regarding chaoser, he has had some great games as town, but his last game as town was PYP3, and he had a pretty bad showing there. Careful with pure meta.

I was playing cards with my wife. I logged in right before I went to bed. Sorry I missed the stampede. I have nothing to hide.
Life can only kill you once.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
August 21 2011 12:01 GMT
#672
On August 21 2011 12:50 RayzorFlash wrote:
Just got back home and got a chance to go over everything that happened since my last post and woww, you guys seriously almost lynched me for (what seems to me like) no valid reason except that you didn't want to lynch Sev??

Anyways, as I said earlier, I fully expect to be on top of the most suspected list since Sev came up green, but I do wanna look at how exactly this wave of bandwagoning against me started...

Just to be clear:
- Jackal is against me because he thinks that, since I'm a new player, for me to be participating at all means I'm being coached, instead of meaning that I may actually have researched the game and have a sense of how to play??
- Sevryn was against me because I was making the strongest case against him, this one at least I understand...
- Palmar is against me... just because, i guess??
- Curu is against me for planning where to point the finger after the first day, without realizing that I actually said that the finger would be pointed at ME after the first day??
- And as far as I can see, everyone else just sort of climbed on top there??

I don't think any of these reasons is really strong enough to lynch me over Sev based on the evidence presented so far, yet you guys nearly did it... I must admit, I'm very surprised...

(Also, DropBear, filter Sev's posts, or check the voting thread... My stealth vote came before he pulled his vote off... It was definitely a pressure vote, though I don't know if it was done perfectly)

Also, saw somewhere in there that xtfftc asked who else would be on my list of people who have aggressively attacked Sev... it would be:
- Myself
- Nard
- Munk-e
- Mig


lol. nard defended severyn. That list is completely useless. You're scum as well as nard. You don't have to take any responsibility for the severynmislynch.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 21 2011 03:18 nard wrote:
anyone care to write up the current vote situation? we need to focus our votes, a no-lynch would be the worst outcome today. I'd do it myself but have only ~40 mins left until i leave the house for today and i prefer eating dinner over re-reading the whole thread

from reading the last few pages the current lynch options which have a chance of reaching 50% seem to be brownbear and sevryn. palmar is still being attacked by some - please stop voting for him because he used a... different tactic to get responses on day1 (i ask you to reduce your tunneling though - it's not a helpful playstyle over a longer period). he is not a good choice for a day 1 lynch.

now, to decide between brownbear and sevryn:
sevryn's case has been made, but sadly this quote is so true:
Show nested quote +
Yeah his reasons are pretty stupid. Guess what: townies are usually way more stupid than mafia.

he cornered himself in a bad spot early on - i'm looking forward to his next posts after not answering ~5 pages of accusations against him. this can wait until day 2 or 3 though - i want to see more posts of him before a possible lynch.
Palmar's case against brownbear is reasonable, especially the part about diverting his vote to JeeJee out of (nearly) nothing. why JeeJee instead of one of the many other inactives? also brownbear seems to not really get Palmar's intention with his tunneling - it's not about the tunneling ("pressuring", lol) but the responses from the pressured person as well as other responses to the over-the-top tunneling.

i will check the thread after dinner again and put my vote, so far im inclined to vote brownbear - i want to see that voting list beforehand though to make sure we get a lynch today.



On August 21 2011 03:56 nard wrote:
ooooh there is a voting thread ,_,

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:33 supersoft wrote:
perfect, xtfftc and nard both refuse to vote for sevryn and say they want to wait until he defends himself. There is no reason not to vote him until he defends himself.


whats the matter with you twisting around my posts? what do we get from lynching him today? the case against him will be the same tomorrow. also if you read my post again (try it a bit slower this time) i reasoned against it because if he is indeed mafia, any additional post from him will help dig mafia's grave.

as the situation didn't change too much since my last post and we have a whole lot of people on sevryn already i will support the votes for brownbear to make a last minute change at least possible - i plead you to read the case against him and his posts again and think again.

##vote BrownBear
see you at night!


this BB accuse came out of the nowhere. Only Palmar voted for BB at this point of time.
Nard supported no reasons for that vote. The only hint can be found in this post:

On August 20 2011 05:12 nard wrote:
Palmar: do you have any reasonable logic on why to lynch dropbear? you accused brownbear for a while in between, but you switched back to DB. Why??

Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 21 2011 14:08 GMT
#673
On August 21 2011 21:01 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 12:50 RayzorFlash wrote:
Just got back home and got a chance to go over everything that happened since my last post and woww, you guys seriously almost lynched me for (what seems to me like) no valid reason except that you didn't want to lynch Sev??

Anyways, as I said earlier, I fully expect to be on top of the most suspected list since Sev came up green, but I do wanna look at how exactly this wave of bandwagoning against me started...

Just to be clear:
- Jackal is against me because he thinks that, since I'm a new player, for me to be participating at all means I'm being coached, instead of meaning that I may actually have researched the game and have a sense of how to play??
- Sevryn was against me because I was making the strongest case against him, this one at least I understand...
- Palmar is against me... just because, i guess??
- Curu is against me for planning where to point the finger after the first day, without realizing that I actually said that the finger would be pointed at ME after the first day??
- And as far as I can see, everyone else just sort of climbed on top there??

I don't think any of these reasons is really strong enough to lynch me over Sev based on the evidence presented so far, yet you guys nearly did it... I must admit, I'm very surprised...

(Also, DropBear, filter Sev's posts, or check the voting thread... My stealth vote came before he pulled his vote off... It was definitely a pressure vote, though I don't know if it was done perfectly)

Also, saw somewhere in there that xtfftc asked who else would be on my list of people who have aggressively attacked Sev... it would be:
- Myself
- Nard
- Munk-e
- Mig


lol. nard defended severyn. That list is completely useless. You're scum as well as nard. You don't have to take any responsibility for the severynmislynch.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 21 2011 03:18 nard wrote:
anyone care to write up the current vote situation? we need to focus our votes, a no-lynch would be the worst outcome today. I'd do it myself but have only ~40 mins left until i leave the house for today and i prefer eating dinner over re-reading the whole thread

from reading the last few pages the current lynch options which have a chance of reaching 50% seem to be brownbear and sevryn. palmar is still being attacked by some - please stop voting for him because he used a... different tactic to get responses on day1 (i ask you to reduce your tunneling though - it's not a helpful playstyle over a longer period). he is not a good choice for a day 1 lynch.

now, to decide between brownbear and sevryn:
sevryn's case has been made, but sadly this quote is so true:
Show nested quote +
Yeah his reasons are pretty stupid. Guess what: townies are usually way more stupid than mafia.

he cornered himself in a bad spot early on - i'm looking forward to his next posts after not answering ~5 pages of accusations against him. this can wait until day 2 or 3 though - i want to see more posts of him before a possible lynch.
Palmar's case against brownbear is reasonable, especially the part about diverting his vote to JeeJee out of (nearly) nothing. why JeeJee instead of one of the many other inactives? also brownbear seems to not really get Palmar's intention with his tunneling - it's not about the tunneling ("pressuring", lol) but the responses from the pressured person as well as other responses to the over-the-top tunneling.

i will check the thread after dinner again and put my vote, so far im inclined to vote brownbear - i want to see that voting list beforehand though to make sure we get a lynch today.



Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:56 nard wrote:
ooooh there is a voting thread ,_,

On August 21 2011 03:33 supersoft wrote:
perfect, xtfftc and nard both refuse to vote for sevryn and say they want to wait until he defends himself. There is no reason not to vote him until he defends himself.


whats the matter with you twisting around my posts? what do we get from lynching him today? the case against him will be the same tomorrow. also if you read my post again (try it a bit slower this time) i reasoned against it because if he is indeed mafia, any additional post from him will help dig mafia's grave.

as the situation didn't change too much since my last post and we have a whole lot of people on sevryn already i will support the votes for brownbear to make a last minute change at least possible - i plead you to read the case against him and his posts again and think again.

##vote BrownBear
see you at night!


this BB accuse came out of the nowhere. Only Palmar voted for BB at this point of time.
Nard supported no reasons for that vote. The only hint can be found in this post:

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 05:12 nard wrote:
Palmar: do you have any reasonable logic on why to lynch dropbear? you accused brownbear for a while in between, but you switched back to DB. Why??



Well Nard is scummy as fuck, no one disagrees with you.
But concerning Rayzor , Foolishness pointed out something interesting :
On August 21 2011 10:22 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:
Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S.

Does anyone think a scum would say such a thing? Especially considering he said this when everyone was voting for Sevryn?


What are your thoughts on that?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 21 2011 14:28 GMT
#674
Vigi list:

1. BrownBear
2. BrownBear
3. Chaos13
4. DropBear
5. RayzorFlash
6. Mig
7. Any lurker you fancy.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 21 2011 14:29 GMT
#675
actually, bump mig above rayzorflash.
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 21 2011 14:57 GMT
#676
On August 21 2011 12:34 Foolishness wrote:
Kurumi sure picks convenient times to not be here....

Yeah, not being around 4am shouldn't happen anymore Mr.Foolishness. TBH I went to bed 3:30 am and couldn't sleep till 5am and I just woke up, five to fifth pm.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
August 21 2011 15:16 GMT
#677
[QUOTE]On August 21 2011 17:10 xtfftc wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 21 2011 10:22 Foolishness wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:

Thanks, you took your time ^^
Care to elaborate a bit on your list? If you are town, you should be happy to share your thoughts with us; if you are mafia, you have to do it anyway to ease the suspicion from your persona.[/QUOTE]

Took time coz I wasnt at home, sorry ...

Myself: I think theres a very solid case against me, but what scum would totally put themselves out there like this, and have NOBODY else defending him except for himself??? I don't think that behavior fits scum... Maybe a very noob town player, which I am, but if I was scum I'd be more guarded or protected, dont you think?

Nard: Supersoft, thanks for pointing out that post by Nard, I totally missed it... I wouldn't put him on the list after seeing that. I just saw his first post in the thread where he put Sev at the top of a list of people he suspected the most... Sorry for the mistake

Munk-e: He has one meaningful post this entire game, and that one was aggressively against Sev, and then he just vanished. He was also one of those who voted Sev at the start and didn't bother coming back to change his vote to me.

Mig: He was really aggressive against Sev at the start, and once his vote was in, he started setting up the next lynch on Chaos. He also was one of those who didn't switch to me when everyone else did, sticking with Sev from start (he was actually one of the first after Curu and Me to vote for Sev)
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 21 2011 16:31 GMT
#678
Okay, I'm confused...why was Rayzor on the block at all yesterday?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 21 2011 16:38 GMT
#679
And can anyone tell me why in the PISS Palmar wasn't a serious candidate yesterday?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 21 2011 16:47 GMT
#680
why would I be a serious candidate?

It's pretty obvious to anyone that has actually read the thread I'm town.

Welcome btw.
Computer says mafia
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