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On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 10:48 bumatlarge wrote: ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS
I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.
Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.
BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?
@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.
Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department. RPGs dude. You killed us. Please stop bringing this up, I had posted multiple times in the QT what we were going to do, and I had to manage your massive failure in the item game, as well as all these items in the black market that were OP as hell. You wanna push this, then blame it on the mods or something. As far as I was concerned, I was 1 of the only two useful townies that game, and I would have won it single handedly. Bringing this up is just a testament to how amazing I am as a leader.
Thanks jackal, I'm expecting your vote any minute now.
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On January 14 2012 11:06 Slardar wrote: I don't see how discussing who to lynch as a campaign is seen as something useful. As far as I'm concerned, it's all a coin-flip at this point and time. Some of the veterans pointed out Bill Murray or Cobbler are threats as scum. Anyone who doesn't want to put in effort in my opinion would be my first lynch if I was mayor. Otherwise, democratic voting system.
You do realize what the point of mafia is, correct?
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On January 14 2012 11:06 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:On January 14 2012 10:48 bumatlarge wrote: ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS
I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.
Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.
BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?
@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.
Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department. RPGs dude. You killed us. Please stop bringing this up, I had posted multiple times in the QT what we were going to do, and I had to manage your massive failure in the item game, as well as all these items in the black market that were OP as hell. You wanna push this, then blame it on the mods or something. As far as I was concerned, I was 1 of the only two useful townies that game, and I would have won it single handedly. Bringing this up is just a testament to how amazing I am as a leader. Thanks jackal, I'm expecting your vote any minute now.
EBWOP: Forgive this post, I got angry. If you really think I'd play this game exactly the way I would play insane mafia 2 where I was the police chief and the mayor, and you think someone here would have done a better job in the same position, then fine.
I'm opting out of the race. I'm clearly not meant to be mayor on TL ever again.
That said, Slardar, the strength of the mayor is how much ressure is put on them by deciding the lynch. Scum can run bullshit campaigns if all they need to live up to is having +3 voting power and night protection. Scum mayor's get massive amounts of flak very quickly because it becomes apparent rather quickly that they don't have town's best interest.
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On January 14 2012 11:14 Toadesstern wrote:nooo, I was considering voting for you, sandroba or wbg at this point in time and you had the lead
Forget it, sandroba is a solid player, I' go with him if you were voting for me. I think there are one too many candidates at the moment, so as a townie, it's better to strengthen people who run similar campaigns to yourself.
Although, that said, both sandroba and WBG need to be a bit more vocal. I think WBG just started posting, but sandroba hasn't been super active enough to be a good mayor. If Bill Murray wasn't Bill Murray and foolishness didn't nosedive his campaign before it ever started, I'd consider him.
BC obviously can't be ruled out.
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On January 14 2012 11:39 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 11:13 bumatlarge wrote:On January 14 2012 11:06 bumatlarge wrote:On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:On January 14 2012 10:48 bumatlarge wrote: ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS
I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.
Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.
BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?
@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.
Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department. RPGs dude. You killed us. Please stop bringing this up, I had posted multiple times in the QT what we were going to do, and I had to manage your massive failure in the item game, as well as all these items in the black market that were OP as hell. You wanna push this, then blame it on the mods or something. As far as I was concerned, I was 1 of the only two useful townies that game, and I would have won it single handedly. Bringing this up is just a testament to how amazing I am as a leader. Thanks jackal, I'm expecting your vote any minute now. EBWOP: Forgive this post, I got angry. If you really think I'd play this game exactly the way I would play insane mafia 2 where I was the police chief and the mayor, and you think someone here would have done a better job in the same position, then fine. I'm opting out of the race. I'm clearly not meant to be mayor on TL ever again. That said, Slardar, the strength of the mayor is how much ressure is put on them by deciding the lynch. Scum can run bullshit campaigns if all they need to live up to is having +3 voting power and night protection. Scum mayor's get massive amounts of flak very quickly because it becomes apparent rather quickly that they don't have town's best interest. I'm sorry Bum. I had no intention of pissing you off. You are one of my favorite people on here.
Aw, you're one of my favorites too. But prepare your anus if you bring that up again.
I'd probably vote for someone who was going to lynch cyber_cheese, or explains a better candidate. I don't see why ciryandor or palmar are scum over cheese.
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On January 14 2012 11:51 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm willing to vote bum for the fact that I like him right now. I think he's
Bum are you willing to lynch Palmar?
I'd be willing to lynch BC too if I continue feeling the way I'm feeling about him. But we'll see. Need more time on that, since BC is much harder to read than Palmar. Palmar's just like lolscum
If it's really a popular consensus. He's far from pro-town with his nonsense, and his reasons for not running or not caring about the election is sketchy.
On January 14 2012 11:50 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 11:49 bumatlarge wrote:On January 14 2012 11:39 Jackal58 wrote:On January 14 2012 11:13 bumatlarge wrote:On January 14 2012 11:06 bumatlarge wrote:On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:On January 14 2012 10:48 bumatlarge wrote: ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS
I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.
Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.
BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?
@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.
Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department. RPGs dude. You killed us. Please stop bringing this up, I had posted multiple times in the QT what we were going to do, and I had to manage your massive failure in the item game, as well as all these items in the black market that were OP as hell. You wanna push this, then blame it on the mods or something. As far as I was concerned, I was 1 of the only two useful townies that game, and I would have won it single handedly. Bringing this up is just a testament to how amazing I am as a leader. Thanks jackal, I'm expecting your vote any minute now. EBWOP: Forgive this post, I got angry. If you really think I'd play this game exactly the way I would play insane mafia 2 where I was the police chief and the mayor, and you think someone here would have done a better job in the same position, then fine. I'm opting out of the race. I'm clearly not meant to be mayor on TL ever again. That said, Slardar, the strength of the mayor is how much ressure is put on them by deciding the lynch. Scum can run bullshit campaigns if all they need to live up to is having +3 voting power and night protection. Scum mayor's get massive amounts of flak very quickly because it becomes apparent rather quickly that they don't have town's best interest. I'm sorry Bum. I had no intention of pissing you off. You are one of my favorite people on here. Aw, you're one of my favorites too. But prepare your anus if you bring that up again. I'd probably vote for someone who was going to lynch cyber_cheese, or explains a better candidate. I don't see why ciryandor or palmar are scum over cheese. why do you think cheese is scum?
He immediately posts a campaign, and from where I'm standing, it was a run for the chance. Denying mayor or sheriff is huge for scum, so I believe it's worth it to have as many scum run as possible. I think that's the syptom this game has come down with. I did agree with his lynch a candidate, but it was so fleeting, it doesn't seem like a prospect he was intending to be on the other end of after suggesting it.
His posts ump around from topic to topic, and I hate questions that aren't intended to lead somewhere solid. Cyber_cheese is a major offender.
On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:+ Show Spoiler [campaign post] +This is my official campaign post!It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray! Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office. Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie. Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will! A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town! Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type. You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!+ Show Spoiler + Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected? Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote: Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.
So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.
So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election? No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate. Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote:On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote: Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.
So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.
So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election? I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game. Explain. Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote: A couple notes about the set-up:
Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.
Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.
We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.
Vote me into office, please. I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections... ##Unvote
I'm going to run for mayor.
Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that. It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it. This post is also bad. Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates? Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.
Posting as town has direction and intention. Compare this to wiggles post.
On January 13 2012 15:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Bum, why are you giving generic blue advice?
What is the point of wiggles post? Obvious. What is the point of Cyber_Cheese's post? Not obvious at all. Intention, Wiggles>answers, Cheese>Distraction.
I'm not going to play this out politically, but if you want to oust cyber, vote me and that's what I will do. End of story.
I'll look into protact's analysis of BC, but I have a few immediate questions. Don't you think the set-up would change BC's decision to claim as town? I don't think the age-old argument of PM's being bad or good is what BC is on about. Is BC's self-interest what makes you think he is scum, or is it the actual claim/plan? I wouldn't agree at that point.
I'll also read palmar's filter again WBG, but there isn't much there. I'm suspicious of you pushing him so hard, but he is scummy, so I'll take what you say into account.
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@Protact - This was kinda buried in my post so I'll say it again.
'll look into protact's analysis of BC, but I have a few immediate questions. Don't you think the set-up would change BC's decision to claim as town? I don't think the age-old argument of PM's being bad or good is what BC is on about. Is BC's self-interest what makes you think he is scum, or is it the actual claim/plan? I wouldn't agree at that point.
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Palmar - Sorry WBG he's a null tell from where I'm standing, he's not being 100% useless and put his vote on someone relevant.
BC - While it does seem like a sneaky thing to do as scum, I can't get behind lynching BC without feeling really sure he is scum. Contradictions made pre-game often feel more concrete then they are. I don't think Protact referred enough to the mason mechanics this game for me to feel BC is trying to fuck us over.
Cyber_Cheese is still my strongest read.
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I need to sleep. I'm going to put my vote on bill because I think he will lynch cyber cheese, or some other better candidate. BC has not given any anti-town motivation in his talk, (even protactinum hasn't mentioned what is wrong with all masons claiming) and the analysis is revolving around what he should be doing. Yes he should be analyzing people, but he has kept quiet in games for the first two days so he can fly under the radar as an analyst. I don't know why this is so surprising that he is trying to vie for a protected position, while attempting to shut down use of a role by mafia.
I only question his selfish intentions. I don't think he needs a mayoral spot to protect himself this game, I'd rather give that to someone I think is town. Same goes to you protactinum. You are so focused on the lynch portion, that it might be worth it for you to grab mayor anyway you can. I don't believe this is staged at the moment, but my inner bum is tingling.
I would rather have bill murray who is going to lynch scum that I can analyze the play of.
@BM: just makng sure, who are you lynching if you get voted in?
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On January 14 2012 16:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 15:57 bumatlarge wrote: Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with. Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 04:52 bumatlarge wrote:I don't think people are understanding where BC is coming from, a town mason is more likely to just immediately get rights, but if you look at scum mason; Mason At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. The Mafia team will have a set number of people to choose as Masons. Mafia with other roles (Roleblocker, Framer, Godfather) can double up on Mason roles. They have to pick them. Do you think mafia right off the bat is going to grab the mason role and start yapping away? I think if BC is mafia, he is doing us a favor. I think masons should claim in thread, the faster the better. It forces mafia into an awkward position, or else they can't claim at all. Why and how did your opinion completely change?
Well just because I think mafia masons are bad, doesnt mean they cant be useful. I think BC's plan does a good job of stopping their use, or severely attaching scum to one another. Nice try Monsieur cheese I'm pretty good in on-on-one situations, so I don't view mafia masons as good. But, oh yes, that is my "generic blue advice" no one needs to hear my genericly awesome mason reading powers. they'll just figure out everything I don't say on their own! Silly me.
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On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote: Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting.
Why ciryandor?
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On January 14 2012 16:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 16:30 bumatlarge wrote:On January 14 2012 16:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 13 2012 15:57 bumatlarge wrote: Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with. On January 14 2012 04:52 bumatlarge wrote:I don't think people are understanding where BC is coming from, a town mason is more likely to just immediately get rights, but if you look at scum mason; Mason At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. The Mafia team will have a set number of people to choose as Masons. Mafia with other roles (Roleblocker, Framer, Godfather) can double up on Mason roles. They have to pick them. Do you think mafia right off the bat is going to grab the mason role and start yapping away? I think if BC is mafia, he is doing us a favor. I think masons should claim in thread, the faster the better. It forces mafia into an awkward position, or else they can't claim at all. Why and how did your opinion completely change? Well just because I think mafia masons are bad, doesnt mean they cant be useful. I think BC's plan does a good job of stopping their use, or severely attaching scum to one another. Nice try Monsieur cheese I'm pretty good in on-on-one situations, so I don't view mafia masons as good. But, oh yes, that is my "generic blue advice" no one needs to hear my genericly awesome mason reading powers. they'll just figure out everything I don't say on their own! Silly me. It also completely shuts down town masons, which you thought were excellent. Why are you willing to give up such an awesome protown role, where two townies could be 'a force to be reckoned with', just to cancel the abilities of the scum masons, which are 'not good at all'.
Town masons claiming doesnt shut down town masons. They can get into contact with any individual they want? They are unrole-blockable, and they eventually have to release the information/analysis they find. I never say that anywhere. Did BC say that?
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On January 14 2012 16:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 16:38 bumatlarge wrote:On January 14 2012 16:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 14 2012 16:30 bumatlarge wrote:On January 14 2012 16:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 13 2012 15:57 bumatlarge wrote: Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with. On January 14 2012 04:52 bumatlarge wrote:I don't think people are understanding where BC is coming from, a town mason is more likely to just immediately get rights, but if you look at scum mason; Mason At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. The Mafia team will have a set number of people to choose as Masons. Mafia with other roles (Roleblocker, Framer, Godfather) can double up on Mason roles. They have to pick them. Do you think mafia right off the bat is going to grab the mason role and start yapping away? I think if BC is mafia, he is doing us a favor. I think masons should claim in thread, the faster the better. It forces mafia into an awkward position, or else they can't claim at all. Why and how did your opinion completely change? Well just because I think mafia masons are bad, doesnt mean they cant be useful. I think BC's plan does a good job of stopping their use, or severely attaching scum to one another. Nice try Monsieur cheese I'm pretty good in on-on-one situations, so I don't view mafia masons as good. But, oh yes, that is my "generic blue advice" no one needs to hear my genericly awesome mason reading powers. they'll just figure out everything I don't say on their own! Silly me. It also completely shuts down town masons, which you thought were excellent. Why are you willing to give up such an awesome protown role, where two townies could be 'a force to be reckoned with', just to cancel the abilities of the scum masons, which are 'not good at all'. Town masons claiming doesnt shut down town masons. They can get into contact with any individual they want? They are unrole-blockable, and they eventually have to release the information/analysis they find. I never say that anywhere. Did BC say that? BC was talking about ignoring PM's completely, and he's been wishy washy on whether he's keen on all the masons claiming.
Apparently I don't know how to read. Claiming doesn't turn off their abilities. BC what you smoking son?
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How to distract Bum101: Post links to other games. Seriously spent 1/2 hour readinf BC's posts in PYP3. That was a fun game.
Glad L is around, I don't think it was too late for anyone to start running for mayor since the votes are fairly spread out. I honestly like where protactinum is coming from with his latest posts, and would like to see BC flip. He has gotten alot of votes from thin air :X, especially after Incog had already given his in depth analysis before most of the votes. Protact's surge of votes seems unsurprising, so I definetly want him in a mayoral position.
@Protact - What will you do if BC becomes sheriff and you become mayor? I'm assuming you'll lynch someone who voted for him, or ciryandor, your previous lynch? Who is macpo lol?
Also, lol at VE. I'm would vote for you bro, if you were close to the leader. I'm assuming you would lynch CC?
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On January 15 2012 10:00 Protactinium wrote:Show nested quote +If so, why are you pushing such a new player despite the fact that plenty of other players have played similarly to him? I'm not Foolishness, but the bolded statement is false. Nobody else has overemphasized their newbiness in an attempt to hide in their first 3 posts. Macpo is the obvious lynch at the moment. This is a textbook example of mafia. See: Misder from Ver's TL Mafia XXX Guide
Oh, would you vote macpo over BC given the choice?
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On January 15 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 10:02 bumatlarge wrote: How to distract Bum101: Post links to other games. Seriously spent 1/2 hour readinf BC's posts in PYP3. That was a fun game.
Glad L is around, I don't think it was too late for anyone to start running for mayor since the votes are fairly spread out. I honestly like where protactinum is coming from with his latest posts, and would like to see BC flip. He has gotten alot of votes from thin air :X, especially after Incog had already given his in depth analysis before most of the votes. Protact's surge of votes seems unsurprising, so I definetly want him in a mayoral position.
@Protact - What will you do if BC becomes sheriff and you become mayor? I'm assuming you'll lynch someone who voted for him, or ciryandor, your previous lynch? Who is macpo lol?
Also, lol at VE. I'm would vote for you bro, if you were close to the leader. I'm assuming you would lynch CC? Ya dude he's scumtastic. Have you had a chance to take a look? Everyone else is ignoring me because of my dumbassery
I was gonna lynch him too. Protact, can you give your thoughts on Cybercheese? I like your reasoning for macpo, but he seems like a lot weaker then CC. I'm sure you'd get mayor then
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Here is my reasoning. + Show Spoiler +On January 14 2012 12:10 bumatlarge wrote:He immediately posts a campaign, and from where I'm standing, it was a run for the chance. Denying mayor or sheriff is huge for scum, so I believe it's worth it to have as many scum run as possible. I think that's the syptom this game has come down with. I did agree with his lynch a candidate, but it was so fleeting, it doesn't seem like a prospect he was intending to be on the other end of after suggesting it. His posts jump around from topic to topic, and I hate questions that aren't intended to lead somewhere solid. Cyber_cheese is a major offender. Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:+ Show Spoiler [campaign post] +This is my official campaign post!It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray! Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office. Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie. Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will! A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town! Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type. You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!+ Show Spoiler + Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected? On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote: Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.
So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.
So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election? No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate. On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote:On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote: Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.
So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.
So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election? I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game. Explain. On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote: A couple notes about the set-up:
Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.
Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.
We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.
Vote me into office, please. I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections... ##Unvote
I'm going to run for mayor.
Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that. It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it. This post is also bad. Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates? Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying. Posting as town has direction and intention. Compare this to wiggles post. Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 15:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Bum, why are you giving generic blue advice? What is the point of wiggles post? Obvious. What is the point of Cyber_Cheese's post? Not obvious at all. Intention, Wiggles>answers, Cheese>Distraction. I'm not going to play this out politically, but if you want to oust cyber, vote me and that's what I will do. End of story.
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On January 15 2012 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor! Wait did he just say..... YES! VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out. My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting. Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor. In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me. Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!! Is this nothing? Can someone experienced tell me why this is nothing?
You are cursed, like me. You tried to dayvig someone with your ability, and despite your good intentions, peolpe won't view you as reliable. It's a shame really, you are easily the best choice for mayor IMO. But with two hours left I don't think it's happening.
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I think it's too late now? I still like protact, no one has gone in depth why he shouldnt be mayor
all gut feelings and one line accusations :/
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On January 15 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:02 bumatlarge wrote: I think it's too late now? I still like protact, no one has gone in depth why he shouldnt be mayor
all gut feelings and one line accusations :/ bum really? His only cause to analyze me is he doesn't like my claim and is using year old + games to prove his case against me where the style in both was completely different. Everyone go back and read pick your power 3 and read jimbo silvers play, guess what, that was incog. Compare to this game now.
You think he is SK? :D
No i don't think you are scum, protact said he wouldnt kill you. Just because protact is mayor doesnt mean he gets to decide the next lynch. If he does lynch you he has a lot to answer to :/
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