EPTAlso for those viewers who are keeping track back home, I'm working my way through the filters of the players I talked about in my post last night, I should have something on who is who in a few hours.
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
Also for those viewers who are keeping track back home, I'm working my way through the filters of the players I talked about in my post last night, I should have something on who is who in a few hours. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
@Protrac: Did you not read my case on sand? i made it very clear why He would do the things he did. You say Mafia would be "slaking off" but I gave very good reason as to why sandroba would not be one of them. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On January 17 2012 07:47 p4NDemik wrote: Meapak I explained my reasoning clearly and to the point in that post. Ciryandor's behavior in shirking off complaints town brought against him exactly mirrors how he responded to GGQ. I would expect some shift in behavior if he was discrediting a complaint another mafia brought against him. Furthermore when GGQ makes a slight jab at Ciryandor, Ciry wholeheartedly deflects and points the finger back at GGQ. I don't see this as how two mafia would interact. Unless they're really bad. Actually this IS how two mafia interact. The last thing mafia like to do especially on day one is to appear connected in anyway. They will often call each other out and disagree for the simple reason of distance. It's not bad mafia play at all to call your team member out, the trick is simply seperating townies pointing genuine fingers to mafia pointing artificial fingers. In the case of GGQ and Ciryandor, my analysis indicates it's mafia pointing artificaly fingers. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
Look at how many votes are dispersed right now,tell me if that is happening. And better give a damn good reason why lynch a single digit (mostly 1 liner)poster who quite simply, doesn't make sense over Macpo, who has already incriminated himself. This is a single lynch day,we must lynch scum else we die from dissension,uncertainty and mafia making a bigger and bigger percentage of us. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On January 17 2012 07:42 Protactinium wrote: Apathy is not inactivity. Apathy does not mean that a player is unreadable. On the contrary, look at how this game has unfolded as a whole. Day 1 is full of chaos. The thread explodes to 75 pages, and hardly anyone is looking for mafia. You have some hardline players like WBG and company who want to throw Palmar off a cliff, and a bunch of useless mason discussion. The mafia have no reason to be actively at the front of the stage because it inherently carries risk. The town is already in a natural state of chaos anyway. Thus, the mafia are the ones who are going to be slacking off. A sandroba lynch is absolutely ridiculous and the amount of support it is getting is shockingly disturbing. No mafia digs up a case on a fellow mafia when it is dead and buried. Lets look at one of your posts about sandroba: Explain how you know Sandroba made BC lynch Palmar, when he never said such a thing. starting from the bottom: On January 15 2012 06:05 sandroba wrote: Palmar you need to try harder, you are too easy to spot as scum nowadays. I'd rather not lynch any vets day1 but you make it so hard not to lynch you. Please go die in a corner. I'll vote BC since we came to a compromise in pms. Gotta roll. ##Vote: BloodyC0bbler That's what he's talking about: + Show Spoiler + [14/01/2012 3:53:12 PM] james: i have foolishness, palmar, protact, brownbear and wiggles [14/01/2012 3:53:16 PM] james: on a list of possible red vets [14/01/2012 3:53:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol [14/01/2012 3:53:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: i want to lynch none of those [14/01/2012 3:53:35 PM] james: most wont [14/01/2012 3:53:41 PM] james: brownbear hasn't posted that I remember [14/01/2012 3:53:47 PM] james: if i had to choose former mayor candidates [14/01/2012 3:53:50 PM] james: is shoot slardar [14/01/2012 3:53:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: bb might even get mkéd [14/01/2012 3:53:53 PM] james: but hes so obviously not red [14/01/2012 3:54:12 PM] james: so many vets have done [14/01/2012 3:54:13 PM] Sandro Maculan: tbh i don't even remember reading his posts [14/01/2012 3:54:15 PM] james: dick fuck all [14/01/2012 4:01:44 PM] Sandro Maculan: man I'll compromise don't lynch fool or incog then you get my vote [14/01/2012 4:04:25 PM] james: fine, ill agree to that [14/01/2012 4:05:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: k gotta roll [14/01/2012 4:05:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'd totally support palmar [14/01/2012 4:06:00 PM] Sandro Maculan: fuck him he is scum so yes. I'd say sandroba made BC lynch palmar About digging up: That's no mafia digging it up. He only commented on that AFTER someone else digged it up and that IS totally scumdroba play. A lot of people think he's scum => he accused a scumbuddy to be mafia to make people think "hey, if sandroba thinks that guy is scum that guy can't be scum at all". That's what he did with radfield / annul last time and it worked too. Sadly we did not have an irc log off the game I'm talking about but I'm sure VE and Jackal can tell you what I'm talking about. If you want you can even check out the game yourself. It's not hard to find within the thread if yu want to (which I doubt). | ||
Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
Prota,I believe you're bussing macpo because of your sudden switch from BC to him once you found out someone was going to notice anyway. Cyriandor was, for you, nothing more than a simple start to your campaign of painting scum-You were planning to switch anyway and let the case be forgotten. After macpo flips red, i'll turn towards you. You're suspicious, but there may still be cases in which you're innocent-I'll delve into it. He says he thinks Prota is bussing Macpo. Bussing implies one mafia getting onto another mafia to make him look more townie. I actually made the same mistake of saying I was bussing Cephiro or something like that in Newbie Mini Mafia recently and tried to play off the fact I said "bussing" accidentally. I however actually was bussing him. I'm actually really happy lynching Macpo based upon this and all of the other logic against him. If Macpo flips red I'd be quite happy lynching Schworz next and if he flps red then lynch Prot. (The only way Schworz would know he is bussing someone is if he was mafia too). I realize this might not be the case, so I'll also post whatever else I've found lately. I feel Nisani's post against Prot was really badly worded and just a bad attempt at trying to lynch someone. A lot of people have broughten up the fact that Prot has switched from BC to Macpo and from Cyr to BC. I feel like these switches can at the outside seem "scummy", however they are based on good reasons. I think switching for good reasons is actually a sign of a townie. Once you start either being afraid to switch because of good reasoning scum is winning. Pandemic is actually thinking a lot like me at first thought which is interesting. And WBG upon a really close examination I find I can't really prove you are mafia. I'm still watching you and I still think you going solely off your meta on Palmar was bad, however I think you could just be agressive townie. Time will tell. Also @Jitsu I'd like to be Masoned with you. I feel like this would be beneficial to both of us. TL:DR I'm worried Swortz Scumslipped and that Macpo, Swortz and Prot are mafia so I'm voting to lynch Macpo based on this and the other analysis which stll stands against him. ##Vote: Macpo | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On January 17 2012 07:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: @schworz, there are currently three serious candidates being discussed, protact, sandroba, and GGQ. That's a fine number of candiates for me. I want to lynch Lanaia. Every post is wishywashy, and that big post with probably 30 people on it was a huge attempt to appear to be doing something. Just doesn't feel right. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 17 2012 08:01 ~OpZ~ wrote: I want to lynch Lanaia. Every post is wishywashy, and that big post with probably 30 people on it was a huge attempt to appear to be doing something. Just doesn't feel right. she is that wishy washy as town. I don't think she's mafia at all unless she does that on purpose to look like her town play. I'd say the first one is more likly. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On January 17 2012 05:18 rgTheSchworz wrote: And if you continue to spell my name wrong, i'll auto-vote you.Reason: Your posts are hastily maken,crap, you want to post something so attention doesn't fall onto you. The hell... You're going to vote someone for spelling your name wrong? With reasons that aren't really backed up? On January 17 2012 06:18 Slardar wrote: Lanaia you're obviously misinterpreting what I wrote. I never said let's not scumhunt, I said let's not scumhunt based off no definitive clues and one persons "hunch". Other is preference, would you like to coin-flip on a veteran player or a less known player? But going off just that to lynch me seems farfetched. Sorry I misinterpreted, but there was more than that. Lynching into the dark has a 1/5 chance of hitting scum. If one person has feelings towards someone being scum, dependent upon whether or not they are good scumhunters, we really should investigate further. When you say there were no definitive clues, what exactly do you mean? Also, considering this is your first game here, why did you opt to run for mayor? No one knows you nor do they know how well you play (given you haven't played elsewhere with them). Your first ingame post was basically saying you'd lynch sheth as your entire platform. Why is that? The next post said "I have no idea who I'd lynch." As mayor, democratic voting system pushes blame off of you, which some construe as scummy as has already been pointed out in thread. Had you been elected yesterday, who would you have lynched? On January 17 2012 07:17 kingjames01 wrote: Bill Murray: You incarcerated Lanaia during Night 1. Why did you choose her? Also, why do you think you saved her from death? She received no such notification. Do you believe that the mafia joined the election Day 1 and do you think that they succeeded to take at least one of the roles? Have you taken also precautions so that in the event of BC and/or your early demise, the Bodyguards will be revealed to the thread? Not only was I not notified, kita claimed he had been shot. Very much interested in his answer to this. Damn Nisani. Daaaamn. That was... a very insightful analysis. In regards to double lynch: Is it typically considered protown? Of the three main candidates, I'd prefer GGQ or Protact over sandroba. His logs with BC make me feel he's fairly town. Of Protact and GGQ, I think I'd prefer lynching GGQ. I won't be voting for a while yet, though. | ||
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Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
Cannot see anything suspicious about sandrobas play so far. | ||
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Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
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Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On January 17 2012 08:04 Toadesstern wrote: she is that wishy washy as town. I don't think she's mafia at all unless she does that on purpose to look like her town play. I'd say the first one is more likly. I've never played with her, and regardless of it, I said I feel off. I'm trusting my gut on this one. She is mafia. Protact is suspected strongly mafia to me and should be to everyone else, plus annoying as heck, example: They've been asked repeatedly, by multiple people, to post which one of them are posting. It's not hard or difficult to comply with that, and seems reasonable I believe. Also, THEY gained a random ass following, claimed to have had given Day one direction, when they had all of 4 posts when they claimed to have given direction to the day. Seriously. That's a load of horse manure. I don't trust protact, at all even if he pointed out ciryandor. He wasn't the first to call him out and even changed his target to BC afterwards. I won't sheep after his wishes. | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
(The only way Schworz would know he is bussing someone is if he was mafia too). Feel free to speculate on my supposed stupidity.Logically before playing i have read some Mafiawiki.I know what the term means. Macpo is a clear case for reasons i have mentioned.I won't switch to someone else unless people fail to vote. ##Vote: Macpo | ||
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Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
What are your thoughts on GGQ + Macpo? @Opz were not lynching Lanaia today because of your "gut". Post what your "gut" is telling you and why. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 17 2012 08:14 Liquid`Sheth wrote: The reasoning for why I don't want to lynch Sandro / Protact tonight is mostly because I think we have a much much better read on the others. [b]Sandro has been a bit quiet and although he did help lynch Palmar which I dislike he has also been very decisive.[b] Protact I feel helped cause the Vig shot on Cy and he despite switching lynch candidates he never did so for no reason. Might have tooken him a bit to explain but he has. read the posts he where he tells us what he likes and what he does not like. Do you think that this is a townie who is trying to help by evaluating why he got the reads he has? | ||
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