You're right that it looks weird as hell. Medics covering VE? Mason but no shots from VE?
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You're right that it looks weird as hell. Medics covering VE? Mason but no shots from VE? | ||
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On January 22 2012 08:40 Cwave wrote: If a bodyguard is killed, will it show that he was a bodyguard? If this is the case, BM lied to me in the pm's. Ok, I confused two posts earlier. Is it correct that one of the "bodyguards" Bill listed is dead, and therefore not a bodyguard? If so, can you provide the name? Just the dead one, not the other. I don't think there's any harm in giving the name of a dead fake bodyguard. | ||
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On January 23 2012 06:26 rgTheSchworz wrote: The fact that you weren't medic saved means scum don't want you dead. Since some ppl suggest that scum doublestacked, why the F didn't they doublestack you? Inconsistency alert. rgTheSchworz thought it was obvious that Hiro would get roleblocked rather than shot last night: On January 21 2012 21:19 rgTheSchworz wrote: No, they'll RB him continously, if they haven't got any other obvious target. Why risk protection? I'd be surprised if scum didn't at least double-stack Protact. Triple stack is possible given that both GGQ and Scamp were reasonable vig targets. This looks bad for Bill Murray, because it'd be a hell of a risk for scum if he was town. Jailing Protactinium was the obvious choice (for a sane town player) once a DT was splitting the medics. | ||
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1. Mafia thought VE was probably lying. 2. Mafia thought VE was probably a veteran trying to draw hits. This was dispelled by night 2, I think. 3. Mafia thought VE was likely to shoot a townie. 4. Mafia didn't want to reveal their roleblocker so that they could throw suspicion on a DT or medic later. | ||
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On January 23 2012 07:44 Toadesstern wrote: 1) yeah if they thought so they would have thought it's #2 2) yeah if they thought THAT they would have rb-ed him while shooting because rb eliminates the 2nd live 3) that could be true 4) everyone knows mafia has 1 RB as far as I can see. 2. The OP is explicit that the veteran ability cannot be roleblocked. This may not be true for the Jack's one-shot veteran ability, so RB & shoot night 2 makes more sense. However, mafia may have thought VE was a plain mason at that point, and shot him just because he was pressing Sandroba. 4. No, the existence of a roleblocker is unproven, although personally I think it's extremely likely. | ||
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On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that. We don't actually need to know the persons role. Not until Hiro's under genuine threat of a lynch, at least. Just name & alignment is fine for the moment. | ||
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supersoft and risk.nuke haven't had much thread presence by their usual standards but I haven't seen anything worth lynching them for yet. Players who I like rather less so far: Brownbear, ~OpZ~, glurio, Munk-E. It's a bit of a lurker list but they all had no contribution apart from dubious votes on day 3. | ||
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On January 23 2012 07:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote: What? Are you bluefishing? The alignment is all that a townie should care about. No, they should also care about not mislynching. If Hiro is likely to get mislynched, he may be able to avoid it by revealing the role of his other check, and depending on the role, this may be worth the cost. Unless that happens, he absolutely shouldn't reveal the role. | ||
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On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote: I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant. Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case. | ||
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@glurio: If you don't want to die, I suggest that you mason someone you think is active and strongly pro-town, and use instant messaging rather than TL PMs to give us as much information as possible. Also some scumreads here would be nice. | ||
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##vote Bill Murray | ||
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On January 23 2012 23:06 Bill Murray wrote: [center]The Setup: Notice how Foolishness trolled by running me for office? Yup. He also lied, by implying you were actually readable. Either that or he's scum. On January 23 2012 23:06 Bill Murray wrote: There was this guy, you see, names Foolishness. That's where this game starts. He was a good man, bold, and didn't want to wait for his role. He knew that role would be town, in all likelihood. What better to help the town, but to save a great lategame scumhunter? I am indeed that. A scumhunter. Anyways, back to Foolishness, he was confirmed town to me from day one, and not because of deductive reasoning. It was because he was too mafia to be mafia. Elect Bill Murray? Foolishness! I have a better theory. Foolishness is scum, and he knows you'll be an easy mislynch target and will grossly misuse your powers, so he gets you elected in hope of causing chaos in future. Paranoid rambling? Yeah. I've lost the plot. Meanwhile BrownBear shows up for the first time in four days and posts... a defence of Bill. This game has jumped the goddamn shark. | ||
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And what the hell is with all these players who think it's acceptable to do the absolute minimum modkill dodge? Since GGQ flipped green, apparently they're not even all mafia. I still want to kill them. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13231931 I don't think BC posted his log with Protactinium. Interesting that OpZ was the only mason who used PMs rather than realtime chat with BC. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13236558 Some evasive stuff from OpZ. Dodges questions on Bill Murray and L, doesn't volunteer any theories on nightkills. Does that "Quid pro quo, Clarice" thing but doesn't ask any questions himself. Not sure there's any reason for a townie to be that tight-lipped. | ||
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Kitaman: Reckons he's scum. Foolishness: Reckons he's scum. Protactinium: Reckons he's scum. Brownbear: Reckons he's unreadable (day 4), switched vote to him silently six hours later. OpZ: Reckoned he was plausible town-BM (late day 2). I think OpZ and Brownbear are scum anyway, so the most likely conclusion is that Bill Murray is scum too. | ||
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