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On January 21 2012 08:08 Jayjay54 wrote: how is a GGQ lynch information free? if he flips red, chaos is red too. I don't see how a KJ or BM lynch provides more information. Yeah, you're right. If Chaosquo shows up, I'll switch to GGQ. | ||
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On January 21 2012 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm here and my votes are for sale. Protact pushing Sandroba so hard is SOOOOOOOO suspicious to me. Like, think about it: he's been "scumhunting" all game - why lynch Sandroba? There's no new information (although arguably that is part of Protact's problem with him), so what makes him more likely to flip red today than yesterday BEFORE Macpo got lynched? I mean, if it's about his activity, why not go after someone like BrownBear or evantrees or something? Sandroba's recent inactivity is certainly my problem with him. There are a whole bunch of lurkers including BrownBear and Evantrees with little to choose between them, so voting for them is like half a vote for Bill Murray. | ||
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Very strong scum play for a first game IMO. I wouldn't underestimate him. | ||
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Does the detective get the role, the alignment or both in this game? | ||
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Man, that was so funny that I almost don't want to kill you anymore. | ||
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If Bill is a Mad Hatter, he could remove a bomb, plant a bomb and jail someone in one night, correct? Regardless, your absolute priority as a townie should be to remove the bomb from Protactinium, so if you claim to have done otherwise, I'll assume it's just a scum survival gambit and vote you tomorrow. | ||
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On January 21 2012 19:56 Jayjay54 wrote: Do you REALLY think they have the commitment to fake lake 8 pages of skyping? This looks genuine to me. It is a fuck ton of work to fake something that well. I am not even capable of faking a conversation that well. I don't think it's a fake conversation, but that doesn't mean that BC isn't scum. The way to do this is to build up your PM log during the day in realtime as if you really were masoning. Check it for anything too incriminating before posting it, and you're done. On January 21 2012 19:56 Jayjay54 wrote: We actually might consider L being the scum candidate. He ended up being godfather, so apparently scum wanted to give him DT immunitiy. If L was the red candidate and just couldn't get the leverage behind his campaing... Yeah, I think there's a possibility that mafia completely screwed up and failed to get any candidates into a good enough position to use their voting leverage without exposing themselves. L & Sandro's no-votes and a lot of suspicious players avoiding the top 3 supports that. Overall I can see valid arguments for 0, 1 and 2 scum in the elected positions, so we'll just have to judge them individually on merit. | ||
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On January 21 2012 21:55 rgTheSchworz wrote: I am expecting hiro to claim jailed, regardless of whether it is the truth or not. This actually helps town nail BM, is a relatively undetectable lie, as if he isn't Jailed/RB he can give his reads with 1 day delay. So unless hiro is SCUM, prepare for a jailed claim. No. Hiro would have to be madder than BM to pull something like that in this situation, regardless of whether he's town or scum. This post together with the one where you assume there's a roleblocker have made me somewhat suspicious of you. How to post in colours is described in the Smilies & BBCode page. | ||
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1. Most of town wants to lynch BM anyway. 2. Hiro would have to think that his own read of BM was much better than average. 3. Someone else might claim jailed. 4. The downside is monstrous compared to the upside. Want to waste a day lynching a DT? | ||
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On January 22 2012 02:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why? would you be taking the reigns? Between myself, foolishness, and protract a total of 4 reds have been called out who have flipped red. More to the point however, the lynches that hit two of those reds were pushed/directed by us. You were "all over sandroba" yet you never analyzed him, or strongly and vocally pushed him as a lynch option and instead just voted alongside everyone else. You sheeped. I don't think this is true. Bill Murray has pushed Sandroba hard from day 1, and made a substantial case back then. Whatever else you can say about him, he does come out of this flip with some credit. | ||
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On January 22 2012 04:52 Jayjay54 wrote: After looking through his filter, I am sure evantree is scum. [snip] a) ZERO contributions. He actually has some posts, but none contribute scumhunting in any way. He never accused anyone. Yeah. Unfortunately this is exactly how he played in Election Mafia. I'd have had him lynched easily if it wasn't for his proven blue claim (it was a very weak role). I even told him after the game that he needed to start accusing people, so his play here has been very disappointing to me. I wouldn't vig him personally because the meta gives him a low chance of being mafia, but if he doesn't step up his play soon I'll get angry. @Evantrees: Three scum reads please. With reasons. | ||
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On January 22 2012 07:20 Lanaia wrote: Can someone direct me to the BC/Protact logs? I'm having trouble finding them. BC hasn't posted them yet, just the Foolishness and VE ones. On January 22 2012 07:20 Lanaia wrote: igabod (hasn't posted since the 14th...? or was he replaced and I missed it?) I replaced him. | ||
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On January 22 2012 20:40 Jayjay54 wrote: Look at the time stamps, look at how much time they spent! They were talking for like 5 hours straight. So the timestamps are real. Roleplaying for 5 hours? Just for the case sandro gets lynched? If sandro wasn't lynched that log is practically worthless. There is so little benefit and so much work? If they really spent 5 hours of their life "falsetalking" just in case one gets lynched, they need to chekc the life priorities Dude, we're all playing this damned game, and your filter is huge I have no doubt that those logs could be mafia vs mafia, written realtime. Note also how little of it is actual scumhunting. There's a lot of general chat, a lot of Protact-defense from Sandroba and some light commentary. Also note that BC is allegedly better at this stuff than Sandroba, and enjoys it a lot more. | ||
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On January 22 2012 20:07 Cwave wrote: Got mason'd by Jitsu last day and i can confirm that BM atleast provided the same two names as BG's to us. With that, we also saw BC list one of the Bg's as scum that BM provided us. Why would a mayor list one of his bg as scum? Actually I think this move makes more sense from a town-BM perspective than anything else he's done in this game, given that he's paranoid, crazy, likes to claim towntells and has a strong scum read on Sandroba. Let's say Bill has one of his "towntells" on one of the BGs, but he's quite suspicious of the other. Two reasons for naming Sandroba instead of the townie: 1. He might get a two-for-the-price-of-one scumlynch if he gets killed. 2. He might get a reaction out of Cwave or Jitsu if they're scum because they'll know he's lying. | ||
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On January 23 2012 00:01 Toadesstern wrote: quick question: need to know who you replaced. could you do me the favor and tell me? :p Igabod. I linked his filter in my second post. Also I think I completely misread Cwave's post about the bodyguards so don't take too much notice of my shit Need more sleep. | ||
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1. Macpo had something like 16 votes on him and was basically dead when I defended him. That would be some seriously dumb scum play. I eventually voted for him because he quit playing, like I said in the thread. I suspect scum had a lot more warning about that than I did. 2. I read a lot of Sandroba's games during day 3 to check his meta and came to the conclusion that he was at least plausible scum. Then he posted one drunken line in three days so I guessed he'd quit playing too. I'm happier with those votes that my KingJames one, because I have a bad habit of reading people as scum just because they're abusive. I'd have voted GGQ otherwise in the situation though, and I'm pissed off at him for not trying even after Protact switched his read. | ||
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