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TheAwesomeAll
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Netherlands1609 Posts
August 08 2011 16:16 GMT
#5
/in
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 11 2011 17:01 GMT
#81
On August 11 2011 19:43 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 11:11 Curu wrote:
Ciryandor this looks a bit icky:

5. In the event of a TIE ALL candidates that are part of that tie are killed.

Can't Town manipulate this to double lynch every day?

It´s not a bug, it´s a feature.

im not youre feature, glitch!
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 12 2011 21:39 GMT
#93
On August 13 2011 05:49 DropBear wrote:
I just pmd like 10 people iv played past games with harrassing them to join

thats the spirit!
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 09:40 GMT
#139
what irc are we using? loonybin?
also /confirm
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#141
its a night first, so kinda.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 19:35 GMT
#162
On August 15 2011 03:54 DropBear wrote:
Ok first couple of thoughts:

- Many of the usual suspects in speaking out early and setting the tone (e.g. sandroba, GMarshal) are not playing so people need to step up a bit more than usual.

- Blues look much less useful than usual. Both strains of detective can only detect certain scum, medics are either silencers or can't repeat saves, veterans don't even know they are veterans so they can't try to draw scum fire, watchers have a really small chance of getting any information until at least day 3. Not only this several traits which would normally could be considered blue roles are now possible Mafia roles. We need to win this through analysis.

- If there are any rivals in play, please delay your tunnelling until a bit later in the game. We don't want early lynches being concentrated on someone who only helps one person win the game, we need them to be Mafia. Worry about your evil twin later on.

i can guess what sandroba would do push this game : double lynches every day! and a mass roleclaim to coordinate the blues!!
as for your other points they are a trivial, i dont go into a mafia game hoping the blues hit something night 1.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 22:14 GMT
#216
On August 15 2011 07:10 Forumite wrote:
Mass claiming, I haven´t seen that many arguments for or against, mostly it´s people just agreeing. Those in Dropbears post are powerfull roles (except the Rival), isn´t claiming just giving ammo to the scum? Does knowing those roles help Town? Doesn´t it help Scum more than it helps Town?

There might be benefit to Rival claiming, if they all claim, and that is that scum can´t claim rival later on, to defend themselves when they are accused of tunneling without reason. We can´t know if everyone claims, though, so people can still do it.

XYZ i dont have an opinion, people seem to agree with it though. What if scum scums out?
Maybe its good though. Buy maybe it isnt.
##vote forumite
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 22:16 GMT
#219
ill hold my post in the thread till the day, no worries.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 22:21 GMT
#221
all the talk about rival claiming is rubbish btw, its not in the interest of rivals to claim, so its not going to happen. for example:
Riv1: im rival with riv2
riv2 : no he isnt.
riv1 dies a horrible dead and riv 2 wins. Also if the become confirmed town there is no way they can lynch the other, wether its best for the town or not, there is no way in hell rivals are going to claim. Any 2 rivals that do claim are probably scum covering each other.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 22:27 GMT
#225
i would go as far to say that claiming rival is extremely scumm, varp made a very good point in irc :

[00:24] <Varpulis> one thing that we can't let happen is scum saying "he was my rival, I had to get him lynched" after leading a shitty bandwagon against an obvious townie

i agree, but lets catch some scum now that we agreed to ignore rivals.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 22:40 GMT
#226
On August 09 2011 01:00 Ciryandor wrote:

I will not compensate for ignorance!

i kinda agree, you have to figure my incredibly subtle accusations out yourself.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#239
On August 15 2011 07:51 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 07:46 Trotske wrote:
On August 15 2011 07:44 Navillus wrote:
On August 15 2011 07:40 Varpulis wrote:
http://pastebin.com/7uvxnYP2

slam500 is shifty as hell. Convo i had with him, i'm oystermeister, he's [zEn]slam500.


I disagree, not wanting to draw attention is a scum thing, saying that you don't want to draw attention looks more like a noob who doesn't want to be the day 1 lynch because he said something stupid, for example because he mentioned he didn't want to draw attention then got killed for it.


why didn't you let him defend himself? there was pressure on slam and you jsut gave him a way out of it without him dogin anything.


Because if my read is right on him he could easily make himself look scummier by acting nooby again while not actually making him any more likely to be scum.

ok you are saying this:
1) hes town
2) hes noob
3) you guys cant see the difference
4) i just saved an innocent :D
you know newbs also have a chance to spawn scum right? I agree its a coinflip with newer players so id say a dt check on him would be more then welcome, but you cant just shoot down the pressure because you feel hes town and think we cant handle the reaction you think he would give.

you see whats wrong with that?
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 23:22 GMT
#251
so you think we should hold off discussion on Varp's FoS on Slam until Slam gets a chance to defend himself?
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 23:33 GMT
#255
wtf i literally said what you said but with a question mark behind it =.=

On August 15 2011 08:20 Nisani201 wrote:
I think we should hold off discussion on Varp's FoS on Slam until Slam gets a chance to defend himself.

On August 15 2011 08:22 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
so you think we should hold off discussion on Varp's FoS on Slam until Slam gets a chance to defend himself?

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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 15 2011 14:39 GMT
#286
kurumi wrote:
they
are
coming
ineedhelpidon'thavetoomuchtime
the deadline is reversed
it is coming faster
2133
idon't have too much time
help me

User was temp banned for this post.

hes talking about the EG thing? lol that derp
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255009
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255012
i could have guessed it was encrypted, i was hoping it was as easy as opening the mp3 file with a jpeg but thats a bit offtopic. HF knowing the truth kurumi :p
and ofcourse this :
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=252839
"-.-
now let me crack that password
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 15 2011 19:12 GMT
#304
On August 16 2011 04:07 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 03:54 hiro protagonist wrote:
LOL, why would the scum team not kill anyone during the night?

Because they can't.

LOL
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 15 2011 19:15 GMT
#306
On August 16 2011 04:13 GreYMisT wrote:
So Mafia couldn't kill last night, but other actions could be taken right?

and lol at the HuK picture.

* disappointed stare of disappointment*
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#313
On August 16 2011 04:34 Nisani201 wrote:
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On August 16 2011 04:30 Sknowman wrote:
On August 16 2011 04:22 GreYMisT wrote:
On August 14 2011 12:00 Ciryandor wrote:
Be reminded that it is a Night 0 deadline and that you have 36 hours to choose your scan/spy whatever targets.


This seemed to indicate no KPs first night


It says "whatever" meaning more than just scum/spy. Why are you defending Nisani?

Maybe he doesn't want a townie to get lynched because of stupid evidence like that.

In other news, I think we should start discussing Slam. He hasn't posted yet, but I don't really see what information we would gain from him "defending" himself that isn't already in Varp's chat log. And I highly doubt that the logs are fake because it's so easy for Slam to just nullify them anyways. What are people's thoughts?

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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 15 2011 19:37 GMT
#314
if anyone got hit last night please claim, if noone got hit nisani has magical knowledge town hasnt.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 15 2011 21:11 GMT
#323
On August 16 2011 06:03 Nisani201 wrote:
Did mafia have KP last night?

i have insider information that they didnt.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 16 2011 13:04 GMT
#367
##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 17 2011 00:17 GMT
#398
ok nisani, whenever you check someone just tell us if hes town or not. Pm the guy you tested his role so that you cant fake your role and dont have to out blues. With that in mind you dont need to get lynched since you cant fake your role.
with other words :
you check x
pm x's role to x
x says in thread nisani is right
and that for a day of 3
##unvote
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 17 2011 15:15 GMT
#447
Varpulis is playing different then his usual town, also he has been pushing for the really really easy lynches. Also he has been very wishy washy.
##vote varpulis
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 17 2011 15:45 GMT
#454
nisani, time to deliver
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 17 2011 18:21 GMT
#470
why the hell would he tell curu, he hasnt posted anything so far i think.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 19 2011 10:04 GMT
#592
On August 19 2011 11:52 Varpulis wrote:
##vote Nisani201

Nisani's claim is very convenient. I just read the role list again, and he's not a cop, he's a journalist. In a nutshell, journalists don't find scum and can't. it's an investigative role that will return town 80% of the time. That safe a claim, combined with the fact that the medic that claimed to him just kicked the bucket make me very skeptical.

Also, i've got a pretty solid town read on Jackal.

Has anybody claimed the kill on Navillus, or was that a scumhit? It was separated from the other two kills last night, so I'm inclined to believe that we have a vig.

i largely agree with this but drobear's dying words were literally that jackal is scum. Nisani made an impressive mess of the situation, but dropbear obviously knew something we didnt, and jackal also knows whatever it is, and yet the town is still ignorant about it. Yes youre holding back information jackal.
##vote jackal58
on another note : lulz
On August 19 2011 08:04 Forumite wrote:
Okay, something is going on here. Either Trotske and Hiro really are Rivals, and Hiro is trying to get Trotske killed by lying about it, Trotske is scum and is trying to get Hiro lynched with this rival accusation, or both are scum. They are both sticking to their stories, so it doesn´t look like Trotskes PM was a trick. Town don´t lie, but Rival Town has other priorities, they need to kill a player and stay alive, both are anti-Town goals, as they divert from scumhunting. Being rivals doesn´t make them Scum, but if they really are scum pretending to be Rivals, being known as Rivals is a good way to hide scummy behavior. I don´t like it, so I´m putting on the pressure.

##Vote: Trotske

Quoted posts: + Show Spoiler +
Original Message From Trotske:
I am a Rival with Hiro Protagonist

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

I'm telling you this because you said you would be inactive until after the day post. and I don't have any sort of scum lean on you.

If I die to a mafia hit look at his ass. I have to this information to Sevryn also. in the event he posts after I die and it doesn't say anything about hiro look at him as mafia also.
On August 19 2011 07:11 hiro protagonist wrote:
Cool story Trotske, but I am not your rival, so you dont have to worry about Me tunneling or killing you... at least, not until I think your scum

I PMed GMan, and he said it is possible for someone to have a rival that is not a rival back, so you might not be lying.

this is exactly why rival claims are bullshit,
rival 1 : im rival with rival 2
rival 2 : no hes not
rival 1 dies
(and you fell for it)
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#614
nisan who did you check?
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 19 2011 21:38 GMT
#639
varpulis is scum
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 19 2011 21:44 GMT
#641
On August 20 2011 06:41 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 06:10 Curu wrote:
So if you can't explain why Mafia KP went where it did, why the hell do you expect me to be able to?

Because you're scum.

wait this actually convinced me
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 19 2011 21:59 GMT
#642
On August 17 2011 10:01 Varpulis wrote:
Slam500 is probably going to get modkilled. Look at his posts. all of the one's ingame are between 6-8 kst. He's probably not going to remember to check the thread before the deadline, because it's 11am in our timezone.

TAA's posts are good on a whole, imo. I don't think he's scum and i don't think we should lynch him.

I do like the case against DropBear though. His posts are almost 100% devoted to his claiming plan and discussing mechanics, and his only post regarding who he wants to lynch/who he thinks is scum is
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 02:14 DropBear wrote:
I want to cook the muffin man.

no explanation, nothing. This is exactly the kind of semi-abstain vote i was talking about in the beginning of the game. I think i missed this post before, didn't realize he had voted at the same time.

this is a slip, its a hidden gem we discover after he gets lynched one day, then we see this and go hurr durr we know the scum team now!
I was literally under 0 pressure at that point, why the fuck would a townie say that?

On August 17 2011 10:01 Varpulis wrote:
Slam500 is probably going to get modkilled. Look at his posts. all of the one's ingame are between 6-8 kst. He's probably not going to remember to check the thread before the deadline, because it's 11am in our timezone.

TAA's posts are good on a whole, imo. I don't think he's scum and i don't think we should lynch him.

I do like the case against DropBear though. His posts are almost 100% devoted to his claiming plan and discussing mechanics, and his only post regarding who he wants to lynch/who he thinks is scum is
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 02:14 DropBear wrote:
I want to cook the muffin man.

no explanation, nothing. This is exactly the kind of semi-abstain vote i was talking about in the beginning of the game. I think i missed this post before, didn't realize he had voted at the same time.

scum really wanted drop dead, after they tried to lynch him they just killed him. They wouldnt have killed him if the pressure/suspicion on him was real, ergo this pressure didnt mean anything to scum, ergo varp is scum.


On August 18 2011 01:19 Varpulis wrote:
why did it specify the scumteam he was from? Never seen that before.
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 23:33 Ciryandor wrote:
On August 14 2011 21:25 Sknowman wrote:
Since the traits are listed in black, are they 3rd party?

No, traits may be distributed to both sides.

On August 14 2011 21:01 DropBear wrote:
What is the Werewolf KP formula?


KPs have been PMed to any/all scum groups, total KP is not public knowledge.

multiple scumteams possibly?

Does anybody want to claim the kill on Navillus and explain why the fuck they killed him?

overly safe, its obvious there are multiple scum teams, he just didnt want to pull a nisani.


On August 20 2011 05:36 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 11:52 Varpulis wrote:
Also, i've got a pretty solid town read on Jackal.



Is leader the trait that lets him substitute the leading vote-getter for somebody else?

yeah we know you can see the townies from the scummsies, whats interesting is that you started defending him after he was lynched and before he flipped. All the town cred none of the consequences best of 2 worlds huh?
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 20 2011 20:07 GMT
#658
lol hiro i was checking if you were rival with trotske, i gave him a list of lurkers and said i wanted to tie a lynch with one. One of the lurkers was trotske, he didnt pick him.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 20 2011 20:08 GMT
#659
the "he" in this story is hiro ofc
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 20 2011 20:12 GMT
#660
Original Message From TheAwesomeAll:
i think we should tie the lynch with a lurker, there are simply too many of them atm. Before posting in the thread i want to discuss it with you and some other people that seem likely town to me. these people are lurking hardcore

12. Sevryn

9. Da-Muffinman

15. DroneAllDay

4. Trotske

13. sinani206 *not nisani

What do you think? ALso who to lynch first? sinani seems relatively scummy to me since he isnt active. Da muffinman on the other hand seems relatively town to me since he got called out and is prolly afk. Also if DB is scum muffin prolly isnt.
the main point is that we just lynch one of these guys, ur in?

im an excellent writer, hiro fell fore it but it turns out he isnt rival with trotske. Since not a lot of people knew about this it was hardly relevant.
Original Message From hiro protagonist:
ok I am down for this, If you can work out the logistics and PM me I could switch votes if need be. let me know. also, snotboogie would be a good lurker lynch as well.

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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 20 2011 20:15 GMT
#661
also get in loonybin!
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 21 2011 11:58 GMT
#676
if nisani flips town we lynch curu, vigi on some lurker
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 21 2011 12:07 GMT
#678
DroneAllDay slam500 and daMuffin are the biggest lurkers, i dont care which one you want to vigi/lynch
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 21 2011 18:49 GMT
#697
wtf is this
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