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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 01 2011 20:24 GMT
#101
I will be in #loonybin on IRC and I will be pming most people. Everyone should hang out in the town's IRC whenever they are free. Townies should be pming people and talking on irc as much as possible. It is much easier for mafia to slip up and reveal themselves than it is for a townie to give away any vital information. So don't be afraid to be active and talk to people.
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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 01 2011 20:25 GMT
#102
On August 02 2011 05:02 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 05:01 syllogism wrote:
You stole my post, but let me re-emphasize that days have 48 hours

which means that we don't need to start killing people 6 hours into the day *cough cough* youngminii *cough cough*


Please this
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 01 2011 20:25 GMT
#103
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERECTIN A DISPENSER.
confirmed.

Dayvigs even if your shot isn't up for debate or negotiable, still claim your shot before you use it, give the player getting shot a chance to say his last words, give suspicions etc...

As always hatters probably shouldn't plac their bombs n1 unless they have near confirmed scum. the last thing we need is a hatter dying and bringing 2 townies with him.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 01 2011 20:32 GMT
#104
On August 02 2011 05:24 Mig wrote:
I will be in #loonybin on IRC and I will be pming most people. Everyone should hang out in the town's IRC whenever they are free. Townies should be pming people and talking on irc as much as possible. It is much easier for mafia to slip up and reveal themselves than it is for a townie to give away any vital information. So don't be afraid to be active and talk to people.



Townies should only be doing what you are suggesting if they are comfortable talking outside of the thread. If they are not comfortable doing so, posting purely in thread is fine.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 01 2011 20:32 GMT
#105
Does the sniper shoot by typing ##shoot in the thread like the soldier if he wants to use his day shot?
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 01 2011 20:37 GMT
#106
On August 02 2011 05:32 redFF wrote:
Does the sniper shoot by typing ##shoot in the thread like the soldier if he wants to use his day shot?

He's a Sniper yo! He PMs the hosts.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 01 2011 20:52 GMT
#107
Loving the TF2 theme.

I'd just like to say that it's highly recommended to post somewhat actively in the thread and not just disappear into solely IRC or PMs. We don't want an atmosphere where RED Team can just sit back, consort amongst themselves, and generally be inactive in the thread.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 01 2011 20:55 GMT
#108
On August 02 2011 05:52 heist wrote:
Loving the TF2 theme.

I'd just like to say that it's highly recommended to post somewhat actively in the thread and not just disappear into solely IRC or PMs. We don't want an atmosphere where RED Team can just sit back, consort amongst themselves, and generally be inactive in the thread.



I love the whole lot of nothing said here. Player list is filled with enough people who know the basics.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 01 2011 21:07 GMT
#109
A little warning. If you're lurking and not contributing, or avoiding taking a side on the issue of a lynch, I will be spamming your PM box to hell. Apparently the mods are notified when somebody sends or receives loads of PMs in a short period of time. I will treat lurkers as an opportunity to test that theory.

Activity, people!
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 01 2011 21:08 GMT
#110
On August 02 2011 06:07 Varpulis wrote:
A little warning. If you're lurking and not contributing, or avoiding taking a side on the issue of a lynch, I will be spamming your PM box to hell. Apparently the mods are notified when somebody sends or receives loads of PMs in a short period of time. I will treat lurkers as an opportunity to test that theory.

Activity, people!


Do you speak for all the people you are talking to?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 01 2011 21:15 GMT
#111
On August 02 2011 06:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 06:07 Varpulis wrote:
A little warning. If you're lurking and not contributing, or avoiding taking a side on the issue of a lynch, I will be spamming your PM box to hell. Apparently the mods are notified when somebody sends or receives loads of PMs in a short period of time. I will treat lurkers as an opportunity to test that theory.

Activity, people!


Do you speak for all the people you are talking to?

nope. Just me. I don't represent the IRC channel in any ways, and I haven't sent out my first wave of pms yet.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
August 01 2011 21:16 GMT
#112
On August 02 2011 06:15 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 06:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:07 Varpulis wrote:
A little warning. If you're lurking and not contributing, or avoiding taking a side on the issue of a lynch, I will be spamming your PM box to hell. Apparently the mods are notified when somebody sends or receives loads of PMs in a short period of time. I will treat lurkers as an opportunity to test that theory.

Activity, people!


Do you speak for all the people you are talking to?

nope. Just me. I don't represent the IRC channel in any ways, and I haven't sent out my first wave of pms yet.


then that means you should be spammmmmming them toooooo
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 01 2011 21:26 GMT
#113
iirc r1ch banned coag from pm'ing once cuz he sent out so many.

and Varpulis doesnt speak for me..
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
August 01 2011 21:35 GMT
#114
I think it's safe to assume we have 1 day or night vig. We could vote for a lynch until half of this day (7 kst) and wait for a dayvig for a effective double lynch. Then we proceed to mass roleclaim to the guy. If that doesn't happen we proceed normally and wait for night vig to shoot night 1. If there's 3+ kills/no counter claims/no dead vigs we massclaim to the vig that claims the kill.
With the mass claims we can easily sort out where mafia is most likely hidden and organize blues to fuck em up.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
August 01 2011 21:38 GMT
#115
I don't think 24 hours is enough, but if there's enough activity that might be doable.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 01 2011 21:38 GMT
#116
ok this game will be gooooooood, first of all im going to simplify this game and spare the town a lot of rubbish.
[G] The Watermark
This is how you create a watermark on your PMs :
http://www.gax.nl/wiskundePO/
generate some key and then give us this :
P: 8237
Q: 9491
N: 78177367
PI: 78159640
D: 20513187
you keep E to yourself. E is used to encrypt stuff, this means you encrypt stuff everyone can decrypt but only you can encrypt.
Now every time you send a pm of any signifigance you just go like :


pm pm, pm blah blah blah xyz is scum ,Dr helvetica is a hero etc
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(same message but encrypted with your key)


this way no forged pms will be thrown in. pretty good huh?
now to prevent this to become a call to spam, simply put it in a spoiler your next. I dont care if you spam dr helvetica fanboyism to everyone without a password, however if you make some kind of claim, give it your watermark. That or just make it a habit to watermark your pms, do it for the town
You need however to encrypt the whole message, because the unencrypted part could get messed with.
+ Show Spoiler +

P: 8237
Q: 9491
N: 78177367
PI: 78159640
D: 20513187
keep E (the encoder) secret

this is what you need to decrypt my watermark.

WARNING: make sure you store your key nice and good, dont be a derp.

therefore people can only forge your pms if you let them (and dont watermark every pm)
youre welcome.
read this if you cant figure the site out:
+ Show Spoiler +
to encrypt a message you first need to click on "sleutelset generen" post your watermark here, go to encoder and convert your text to ascII by putting the original text in the first line, click the button "omzetten naar "ASCII" then hit "versleutel" you got your watermark.


and thats how you watermark, use it as you wish. (very usefull in QTs, making sure no one pretends to be you etc. you can use it for PMs, its very unexplored imo)
dr Helvetica <3
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 01 2011 21:38 GMT
#117
i don't like mass roleclaim plans 9 times out of 10 tl towns dont do them right and things get fucked up especially if the godfather penetrates pm circles and i learned that lesson the hard way.

really don't see a situation where we'd use a dayvig today i say we keep that discussion off the table unless something ridiculous happens like two obvious mafia slipups.
RIP Aaliyah
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 01 2011 21:39 GMT
#118
not doing that too much work/complicated...
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 01 2011 21:39 GMT
#119
im not watermarking my pms thats too much work lol
RIP Aaliyah
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 01 2011 21:51 GMT
#120
I agree with san's plan. The main benefits of the double lynch are 1) extra information right away. 2) everyone can claim to a confirmed townie so that townie can organize the blues for n1.

And forcing all the blues to claim to the day vig puts the mafia in a shitty situation. Either A) they can not claim at all to him and then he can direct the other vigs to just shoot into the much smaller pool of vanilla townies or B) they can risk trying to claim blue roles and outing themselves because the # of roles is suspicious, for example if 3 vets claimed.
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