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On July 13 2011 05:00 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:On July 13 2011 04:47 Radfield wrote:
Why did you post this? I made it clear I was role fishing, no bones about it.
To ensure that everybody saw it and was aware of it. Most people I've ever seen fishing for roles were scum. Fair enough, but I made it awfully clear what I was doing. + Show nested quote +I find it likely that there are certain pro-town abilities(investigations, medics, etc) that require money to activate. Trying to learn what players roles are is all mafia is. Being able to peg someone as a definite red/blue is extremely handy.
From scum standpoint of view, fishing like that can reveal only blues. Why the hell as Town would You fish for blues anyway? To out them and make them die? To get their equipment? All sound scummy to me, but You know... I am new to this game, still.
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On July 13 2011 05:06 syllogism wrote:
It's extremely useful to get a blue/town read on someone in this format, much more so than a traditional game
Just pointing out:
That's not how town syllogism posts.
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I dislike meta, but now it came handy. Basically, syllogism was asking questions and making some fluff posts entire game. He is not dedicated like in WaW2 (pretty stupid to point this game), he was getting killed N2 by Mafia, but shit hit the fan 
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On July 13 2011 05:14 OriginalName wrote:...Except it really shows nothing...?
Funny how Ace was telling me that everytime I brought it up in our scumchat during PYPI.. Based on myself I know I behave differently based on alignment - easy as that.
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On July 13 2011 05:26 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 05:15 Kurumi wrote:On July 13 2011 05:14 OriginalName wrote:On July 13 2011 05:11 Kurumi wrote:
I dislike meta, but now it came handy. ...Except it really shows nothing...? Funny how Ace was telling me that everytime I brought it up in our scumchat during PYPI.. Based on myself I know I behave differently based on alignment - easy as that. I like it when you're the SK and you just tell everybody. Are you the SK Kurumi?
I can assure You I am a Townie, Jackal58 
Radfield, since You're done apologizing and finding excuses, care to share some opinions on players?
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I will push Radfield lynch tomorrow Nisani, don't worry.
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Radfield's Fall
>insert a statute falling image here<
I would leave Radfield alone. I seriously would if I saw anything redeeming him. There are a couple of things missing in the picture with Radfield's play in this game.
#1: No suspects.
Radfield suspects... noone.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2011 07:29 Radfield wrote:
I don't see the case on OriginalName. His posting looks legit for the moment.
Sandroba looks fine for now as well, though I'll admit I'm a bit biased, partly because he was posting the things I was thinking, partly because he was my scum buddy last game.
Nisani, how is chaos13 playing protown? He's only made two posts....
missed a quote tag there chez... i'm disappointed.
Look, this is how Radfield talk about people. "He is town."
"He is town too." "Town too." Pretty easy to say as scum. Radfield literally found 0 scuminess in people so far.
#2: Scum-driven actions.
A) Role fishing.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2011 05:00 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:On July 13 2011 04:47 Radfield wrote:
Why did you post this? I made it clear I was role fishing, no bones about it.
To ensure that everybody saw it and was aware of it. Most people I've ever seen fishing for roles were scum. Fair enough, but I made it awfully clear what I was doing. + Show nested quote +I find it likely that there are certain pro-town abilities(investigations, medics, etc) that require money to activate. Trying to learn what players roles are is all mafia is. Being able to peg someone as a definite red/blue is extremely handy.
Why the heck would You want to know if someone was blue? To out them? Slip the information? Send PM about someone's role to wrong person? Role fishing IS NOT a Town trait. Town has absolutely no need in knowing who is blue. Everything Town needs to know is who is scum and who is town. You don't search for blues, You search for TOWN! The priority of course is scumhunting, but if someone behaves Town You have one person less to think about.
B) Shady contracts
So let's list what Radfield wanted to buy:
RPG (every town needs one, of course!)
Votes (You know, we have a Mayor election this game)
Bulletproof Vest (hai guise thanks to vest i survived night 1 i am totally not scum thanks to that so don't hit on my scuminess silly boys, my scum bro "sold" me one)
What Radfield sold:
Gave 25,000 Kronos to Chezinu
So let's sit down and think a bit. How good would be to have an excuse for surviving Night 1 as scum? Amazing! BPV fits in the pattern.
Votes? That was searching for SK. The first person to sell his/her vote is likely a SK. How good would be allying with one? How awesome, 2KP! Also we don't know if Radfield speaks truth about noone selling his vote. It is highly likely there's a deal between Radfield and Chezinu.
C) Excuses
+ Show Spoiler +QUOTE] On July 13 2011 05:25 Radfield wrote:On July 13 2011 05:03 heist wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 03:56 sandroba wrote:
Hello everyone. I don't like the post above one bit. Lynching a lurker is about 27 times better than lynching rad day 1 and you say you are not sure, but he seems like a good lynch? Huh? How does that make any sense?
Also kurumi is suspicious for being a try hard, but saying nothing useful. Nisani for the above post AND for suporting kurumi. Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 04:35 sandroba wrote:
1) I'm not advocating a lurker lynch
2) I'm not defending Radfield
That said he does not strike me as scummy and I would rather we pressure really scummy people like kurumi and nisani. Sandroba I don't see in any way how Kurumi is more scummy at this point than Radfield based on actions alone. On the contrary, Kurumi is pointing out what exactly makes Radfield our leading suspect (although the BP contradiction is quite bs). role-fishing is one of the scummiest things to do. Isn't it a bit suspicious that radfield folds on his trap after one line of inquiry? That said, is he super-scummy? No but I like his chances at flipping red more than a lurker's. I have zero votes heist, and in no way shape or form am I the most scummy player in this thread. However, given that certain players seem to be bent on spending their time focused on me today, here is my proposal: Set aside your suspicions for 1 cycle. If by day 2 you still think I am the best target for a lynch, then push me with all your might. However, in the meantime, stop focusing on my terrible first post that had apprx 3 minutes of thought, and instead look around at the other players in the thread. I am confident that by day 2 my posting will have spoken for itself.
"Hi guys, I scumslipped, but could You forget about it for a moment? Like, one night so I can use MY ADDITIONAL KP TO FUCK YOU OVER?"
Sure Radfield, I am totally letting You go. About the "I am confident that by day 2 my posting will have spoken for itself" just read his posts after that one, if You find someone who he suspects, a plan, anything green, tell me. He's posting utter crap, getting in deal with Chezinu and talking how everyone is town without much evidence.
Also something else:
Radfield is sure he will be alive Day 2.
##Vote Radfield
No.
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Sinani said Nisani is a bit experienced, newbie card should be non-existant.
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On July 14 2011 06:41 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 06:37 Palmar wrote:
And I don't think you're town-aligned player chaos Interesting. What drives you to that conclusion? Also any thoughts on my analysis of heist? Am I dead wrong?
I was talking about heist in the PM land - I stated the thing with those big letters in the beginning of Your post:
He is flying under the radar.
The thing is, I thought he is rather town because he was voicing his opinions.. A bit. The thing is; he is the only guy really flying under our spaceship. Lynch is something around 6am Europe time.. so damn bad.
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On July 14 2011 06:53 Chezinu wrote:
Save yourself Radfield!
Convince me why Nisani is scum.
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So Chez, Sinani and You had a contract and he broke it already?
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So where is that DT check saying syllogism and sandroba are town I am missing?
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Palmar earned my trust. He knows my role, so when shit hits the fan You know the drill.
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I am not getting why chaos13 is scum out of blue. He wouldn't sell those fucking landmines but he would plant them instead and I strongly believe someone bought one. If scum got it, that's really bad. If Town, please fucking leave it alone and use as decoration together with the flowers in Your dinning room. I would STILL lynch Radfield, ON or heist are both good lynches.
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On July 15 2011 05:08 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:53 Palmar wrote:
Cause by my calculations, and judging by the PM you sent me, you sold your landmine for 355,000 kronos, and of course you had to pay 10.000 to LSB bank.
That makes 1,345,000 kronos.
But why aren't there additional 20,000 kronos missing from paying for your testament? Because I'm assuming that is calculated at the end of the cycle. I may as well just stop posting now. You guys are gonna kill me no matter what I say, so I'll just leave you to it. I'll be sure to drop by at the day post for a resounding "I told you so!" though.
Don't give up, give us another lynch candidate.
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On July 15 2011 05:15 chaos13 wrote:
I already made a giant post of my opinions on players, and that was pretty much ignored except for ON to criticize it. Really, nothing I say will make any difference at this point. I've got the entire player roster except for you tunneling on me
You listed GM and Jackal as the scummiest guys or? Who should be lynched tomorrow instead of You?
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Fuck I wanted to troll with Chezinu.. and I died! Bastards!
Still loving You <3
Go get them Town!
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I was School Bus Driver and You blew me up. Not nice.
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