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On July 25 2011 22:22 deconduo wrote:
Well seeing that I can't get out of this. I'm actually a comp vig *cough cough*
-Shot ROL night 1
-Shot Wiggles night 2
I'm sorry for killing wiggles, I really did think he was anti-town. I was trying to be helpful to town and get rid of 3rd party. Everything I've said is legitmate. The only time I've lied was claiming croc.
If you want to keep me alive, I will help. Otherwise gl town, down with mafia.
Actually let's break this apart:
a) you don't name claim your vigilante.
b) if you're a vigi how did you get hit night 1.
c) vigilantes can't kill any of the third parties, so why bother shooting Wiggles?
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oh fuck, the cough cough means he knows he's lying.
I wonder which one he is...
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On July 25 2011 22:44 deconduo wrote:
Hint, read my post a few times. Then read the OP. Then read my post a bit more. Then reply.
I'm sorry for killing wiggles, I really did think he was anti-town. I was trying to be helpful to town and get rid of 3rd party. Everything I've said is legitmate. The only time I've lied was claiming croc.
If you want to keep me alive, I will help. Otherwise gl town, down with mafia.
Lol, did you read the OP though? Specifically the part where it says the 3rd party won't die to night hits?
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On July 25 2011 22:46 Palmar wrote:
oh fuck, the cough cough means he knows he's lying.
I wonder which one he is...
Personally, I think Ra'as
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He's not. He's Batman. Post incoming. This is a good lynch for town now.
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Oh wait. He's not a good lynch. We should find someone else, because this will take care of it'self for sure now.
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Lol, here: I'll do what he can't:
On July 05 2011 00:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Since the joker is mad starking insane no one would ever believe him if he claimed who he was. He may never claim who he is in thread or privately.
However, do to batmans solitary nature he may never reveal the findings of his investigations publically, nor may he ever claim his role in thread.
Ra’as may never claim his role in thread or pms.
Hope that clears that up. Now let's do science to it!
Decon is black, and he's shooting at people who are suspected of being black. Can't be joker. If he were, he would have been acting like a traditional SK, and killing town leaders. (Because the town was ahead from the start, and he want's to equalize the two).
Next: He shot RoL. RoL claimed that he was third party to me at the beginning of day 2. (Not a straight up claim, but he didn't say no when I asked him, and went on talking as if he was one.) He said he was sure I was mafia, and that he wanted to get in touch with the mafia so that he could avoid hitting them. (The more people he knows the alignment of, the less people he can accidentally hit.) During the conversation, he said in an offhand manner (one that didn't seem like a prepared lie, or a lie at all) that killing mafia wasn't part of his win con. Thus we know that he is also not joker. (That and his general behavior).
So what do we know? Decon is third party, RoL is third party. Neither of them are acting or shooting like Joker, therefore they aren't. Decon shot RoL, and he didn't die, so Decon must be Batman, and RoL must be Ra'as.
This also leaves Palmar as the joker imo, because he's been acting exactly like an SK this game. No offence Palmar, and I think we should keep you alive till everyone other enemy is dead, but you are the best fit into my SK rubric.
Now I'd like to point out what this means: We know who Ra'as and Batman are. That means they know who each other are. I say we lynch for scum tonight, and let them sort themselves. We don't need to use a lynch when we KNOW where one of their bullets will be going.
To that end,
##Vote: Pyo
Oh, and if anyone is a DT, this might be the time to come forward with you findings.(Agree/Dissagree?)
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If the story is true, why didn't RoL shoot decon last night?
Why did you allow someone to claim SK to you and not reveal it?
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On July 26 2011 00:56 Lucidity wrote:
If the story is true, why didn't RoL shoot decon last night?
Why did you allow someone to claim SK to you and not reveal it?
That's the problem I have. Technically no one has counterclaimed RoL's croc claim so he might not even be an actual third party.
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o Cool so we dont have to lynch him just have batman kill him?
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I agree with letting the 3rd parties sort there shit out.
##unvote
##vote pyo
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On July 26 2011 00:58 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 00:56 Lucidity wrote:
If the story is true, why didn't RoL shoot decon last night?
Why did you allow someone to claim SK to you and not reveal it? That's the problem I have. Technically no one has counterclaimed RoL's croc claim so he might not even be an actual third party.
Ya people have been saying RoL was black since halfway through D1 based on his lurking and then have tried to twist every post he has made into him being black. There is def a possibility that a lot of people have are looking at him with "black colored glasses" and he could indeed just be croc.
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On July 26 2011 00:38 Kavdragon wrote:Lol, here: I'll do what he can't: Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 00:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Since the joker is mad starking insane no one would ever believe him if he claimed who he was. He may never claim who he is in thread or privately.
However, do to batmans solitary nature he may never reveal the findings of his investigations publically, nor may he ever claim his role in thread.
Ra’as may never claim his role in thread or pms.
Hope that clears that up. Now let's do science to it!
Decon is black, and he's shooting at people who are suspected of being black. Can't be joker. If he were, he would have been acting like a traditional SK, and killing town leaders. (Because the town was ahead from the start, and he want's to equalize the two). Next: He shot RoL. RoL claimed that he was third party to me at the beginning of day 2. (Not a straight up claim, but he didn't say no when I asked him, and went on talking as if he was one.) He said he was sure I was mafia, and that he wanted to get in touch with the mafia so that he could avoid hitting them. (The more people he knows the alignment of, the less people he can accidentally hit.) During the conversation, he said in an offhand manner (one that didn't seem like a prepared lie, or a lie at all) that killing mafia wasn't part of his win con. Thus we know that he is also not joker. (That and his general behavior). So what do we know? Decon is third party, RoL is third party. Neither of them are acting or shooting like Joker, therefore they aren't. Decon shot RoL, and he didn't die, so Decon must be Batman, and RoL must be Ra'as. This also leaves Palmar as the joker imo, because he's been acting exactly like an SK this game. No offence Palmar, and I think we should keep you alive till everyone other enemy is dead, but you are the best fit into my SK rubric.
Now I'd like to point out what this means: We know who Ra'as and Batman are. That means they know who each other are. I say we lynch for scum tonight, and let them sort themselves. We don't need to use a lynch when we KNOW where one of their bullets will be going. To that end, ##Vote: PyoOh, and if anyone is a DT, this might be the time to come forward with you findings.(Agree/Dissagree?)
Isn't it possible RoL was Croc and he took a shot N1 so he lost his extra life and he thoguht you were mafia so he was going to subtly fake claim 3rd party to you so that you and your mafia buddies (in his mind) wouldnt shoot him again, and potentially tell him the mafia list all in one quick stroke?
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I really don't believe that the 3rd parties will sort themselves out. decon and RoL are still alive after both of them claimed.
It's to the town's advantage to reduce the KP at night.
Town's win condition includes killing Joker.
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On July 26 2011 00:58 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 00:56 Lucidity wrote:
If the story is true, why didn't RoL shoot decon last night?
Why did you allow someone to claim SK to you and not reveal it? That's the problem I have. Technically no one has counterclaimed RoL's croc claim so he might not even be an actual third party.
Awe crap. Best laid plans of mice and men, eh?
So Batman can claim in PM's. He's the only one who can. I told Decon this and asked him to claim BM, so that we stop his lynch, and let Ra'as take care of him. This way he gets one more shot, and the tp take care of themselves.
Unfortunetly he said he's not Batman, which means he must be Ra'as. On the bright side, I no longer have any idea who RoL might be, cause he sure wasn't playing like a veteran...
Anyway, I'll let you guys decide, I'm out for the rest of the day. The reason I didn't post my conversation with RoL was because we are supposed to be scum hunting, and at the time all we were doing was talking about blacks. I tried several times to get ahold of Palmar so that I could share it with him, but in the end he was unavailable so I gave it to VE.
The reason telling you guys now is that blacks are powerful enough that I think this information is beneficial to the town. Interestingly enough, RoL told me later that he was a vet testing me, because if I were mafia, the first thing I would have done is post that in the thread. It would have distracted the town for that much longer.
Btw, I'm proud of the fact that no body is trying to use clues. They are horribly mafia favored, and are best left alone.
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Other possible scenario:
RoL is Vet
Decond is Ra'as.
Decond shoots RoL. RoL is alive and lies about med protect.
Decond calls RoL Joker cuz Ra'as can't kill Joker.
Accusations against wiggles as Bats.
Decond shoots wiggles in belief he's Bats.
Wiggles turns up blue.
Decond goes EFF.
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@Kavdragon Batman's hit goes through all protection and would kill Ra'as if it hit him. If ROL didn't die from deconduo's hit it's impossible for deconduo to be Batman. The only option available if they are both black is that:
A: RoL is Joker and deconduo is Ra'as.
B: RoL is Ra'as and deconduo is Joker.
If you're right in saying that none of them are the Joker, then it means that one of them is blue.
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