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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 22 2011 21:45 GMT
#1581
Yea .. nothing new under the sun.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 22 2011 21:49 GMT
#1582
On July 23 2011 02:43 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, as for Varys, I'm of the opinion he's town, only because he sent me this PM:
From: VarysTheSpider [ 21 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: im new to mafia
Date: 7/18/11 11:37
Hey Mr wiggles! I'm new to mafia and I'm town and am looking for people to strategize with. Do you have any advice for me?

Which actually came before he even made a post in the thread, if I remember correctly. This looks to me, like a new townie who read my first post, and figured I'd be a good person to ask for advice. If he were mafia, I don't think he would have come up with this himself. In my games, I've never really seen it. Has anyone else ever seen a new mafia member coached to contact a vet asking for advice to seem like a new town? I'm genuinely curious, because this looks like noob town, to me.


What!? I wouldn't believe that for a second. Maybe I'm just projecting here, but as noob town I'd be scared to talk to anyone.

##vote VarysTheSpider

i was the first to call pyo out, please dont forget that over the course of the next few days
dr Helvetica <3
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
July 22 2011 21:51 GMT
#1583
I thought Nisani201 was a good choice for an actual lynch today but everybody deserted the lynch. EternalMisfit overall, non-committal posts, and votes that are thinly veiled parrotting bandwagons. Very unfortunate voting timing, last vote on both wagons and both when those votes were best shot at saving redFF. I don't see why RebirthOfLeGenD didn't find you more scummy. You have my vote today.

##Vote EternalMisfit


LoL, check my vote timing and see how the voting progressed. Yeah I was exactly the last vote on both wagons. At-least check the vote-lists before making false claims.

VisceraEyes 12
RebirthOfLegend
bumatlarge
redFF
youngminii
Coagulation
Zona
EternalMisfit
supersoft
Mig
CjrNinja
Lucidity
Sevryn


Also, I love how bring my post about not having played in a few months that was posted way before the game even started as evidence against me.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 22 2011 22:01 GMT
#1584
why do you think you need to defend yourself EM?
Computer says mafia
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 22 2011 22:06 GMT
#1585
On July 23 2011 07:01 Palmar wrote:
why do you think you need to defend yourself EM?

because hes scum, and this is how i imagine their QT going:
Nisani: looks like im going to live

YM: yeah, but at what cost sinan, AT WHAT COST

Pyo: dont leave me ym. I alway ment to say something to you but the time never seemed right. YM I LOVE YOU

EM: Fuck YM, if youre going down were going down together ILL BUSS SINANI
dr Helvetica <3
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
July 22 2011 22:07 GMT
#1586
On July 23 2011 07:01 Palmar wrote:
why do you think you need to defend yourself EM?


As you can see I did not defend against any of the pointless analysis he made. I just set the record straight about obviously wrong facts and found it hilarious that he included my '/in' message in the PBP analysis.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 22 2011 22:07 GMT
#1587
if you die, do you get acces to the mafia QT?
dr Helvetica <3
VarysTheSpider
Profile Joined July 2011
United States38 Posts
July 22 2011 22:29 GMT
#1588
On July 23 2011 05:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 04:35 Lucidity wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, as for Varys, I'm of the opinion he's town, only because he sent me this PM:
From: VarysTheSpider [ 21 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: im new to mafia
Date: 7/18/11 11:37
Hey Mr wiggles! I'm new to mafia and I'm town and am looking for people to strategize with. Do you have any advice for me?

Which actually came before he even made a post in the thread, if I remember correctly. This looks to me, like a new townie who read my first post, and figured I'd be a good person to ask for advice. If he were mafia, I don't think he would have come up with this himself. In my games, I've never really seen it. Has anyone else ever seen a new mafia member coached to contact a vet asking for advice to seem like a new town? I'm genuinely curious, because this looks like noob town, to me.

I don't agree with your reasoning about noob town. But ignoring that for a moment... Isn't Varys a pretty obvious smurf? The account seems to have been created simply for this game. Both if you look at the timing and where he has posted. This is my first mafia game on TL and I noticed it. How did you not?


I have no idea if he's a smurf, but from just my impression of the thread, he doesn't seem to be playing super aggressively or trying to take control of town. Most of the players I can think of who play on smurfs are normally very good at analysis, but I haven't really seen any of that from him. As well, I'm pretty sure there's been other people who have started playing very quickly after making their account. Beyond that, I don't really care if he's a smurf or not, as I'm just going to judge him off his play in this game, and will treat him like a noob until he does something to prove otherwise. If he's a smurf, I can't really think of a reason to send me that PM. All he'd get would be general advice, which isn't going to help him determine my alignment. If it was just to make him look like a noob and make him more believable, well then congratulations on your duplicity, but even that would only make sense if he sent the same thing to multiple people.

Were more people than just me contacted by Varys very early in the game seeking for advice?



I am not a smurf... a friend of mine IRL that plays this game told me about it so I signed up to play. I PMed 3 players at the start of the game who I was told were good players to see if any of them would try to manipulate me.

PS posting on your phone sucks... can't wait til I get to my laptop tonight but I think will b after night post
Why is it always the innocents who suffer most, when you high lords play your game of thrones? --Varys
VarysTheSpider
Profile Joined July 2011
United States38 Posts
July 22 2011 22:35 GMT
#1589
On July 23 2011 02:43 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 02:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, as for Varys, I'm of the opinion he's town, only because he sent me this PM:
From: VarysTheSpider [ 21 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: im new to mafia
Date: 7/18/11 11:37
Hey Mr wiggles! I'm new to mafia and I'm town and am looking for people to strategize with. Do you have any advice for me?

Which actually came before he even made a post in the thread, if I remember correctly. This looks to me, like a new townie who read my first post, and figured I'd be a good person to ask for advice. If he were mafia, I don't think he would have come up with this himself. In my games, I've never really seen it. Has anyone else ever seen a new mafia member coached to contact a vet asking for advice to seem like a new town? I'm genuinely curious, because this looks like noob town, to me.


What!? I wouldn't believe that for a second. Maybe I'm just projecting here, but as noob town I'd be scared to talk to anyone.

##vote VarysTheSpider



Can't vote for your scum buddies YM and nasani so might as well throw a random vote my way... was it bc I posted about you bringing your name back up recently?
Why is it always the innocents who suffer most, when you high lords play your game of thrones? --Varys
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
July 22 2011 22:37 GMT
#1590
So the YM lynch has some suspect voters right now that include Sevryn and Bumatlarge, both that have been on my radar. But the people I want to talk about most are Mig and Naz.

First off Mig:

He was one of the Votes for VE. Before that He had his vote on Red, and before that he had his vote on supersoft. His switch to Red meant nothing, as at the time half of the towns votes where on him. Whats telling Is he switched his vote to VE after others started to swing towards Red as a lynch. Thats scummy. I see a similar tread with his votes now. I think Mig is once again trying to save his scum buddy.

Now for operation honeypot. I think notasmurf was correct in his conclusions: that one of Wiggles and Mig is scum. I think there was unaccounted for views in the form of registered users. There was unaccounted views in the clue titans QT, which had Red in it. Of the two, I think Mig is scum.

now for Naz: He and Mig are one of the same. One thing that bugged me was that Naz kept his vote on Pyo when it was 12/12 between Red and VE, and then right after voting closes hes like "##vote: RedFF, oh wait, Voting over? my bad, but I wanted to vote for Red!". Im not buying it.

My thoughts on Sevryn can be summed up with this:

VisceraEyes 12
RebirthOfLegend
bumatlarge
redFF
youngminii
Coagulation
Zona
EternalMisfit
supersoft
Mig
CjrNinja
Lucidity
Sevryn

The dont think CjrNinja was the last scum to vote for VE.

I think Nisani is scum, and I think Mig and others our trying to protect him. I want to lynch Nisani, and I want a Vig on Mig tonight. That is all

##Vote: Nisani201
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 22 2011 22:41 GMT
#1591
we have our lynch target so Vigi's - Here is a lurker list, Start firing.

14. prplhz ( Flying under the radar )
23. darmousseh
28. creamybutter ( buggered off after being confirmed as II )
37. zona
38. gtrsrs
39. ribboo
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
July 22 2011 22:44 GMT
#1592
On July 23 2011 07:41 Drazerk wrote:
we have our lynch target so Vigi's - Here is a lurker list, Start firing.

14. prplhz ( Flying under the radar )
23. darmousseh
28. creamybutter ( buggered off after being confirmed as II )
37. zona
38. gtrsrs
39. ribboo


dont fire at gtrsrs or ribboo, there likely to be modkilled.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 22 2011 22:45 GMT
#1593
Hiro, I was the first person to write an analysis against nisani. I was the one who brought him up to everyone in the IRC, which started the entire bandwagon on him in the first place. Now I am trying to save him? I honestly don't know what goes through people's heads before they post. Do you just have no ability to think logically or what?
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 22 2011 22:51 GMT
#1594
Anyway I shouldn't have responded to your nonsense, just annoying. People should focus the discussion on who they think is the best lynch today.
Moderator
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
July 22 2011 22:52 GMT
#1595
On July 23 2011 07:41 Drazerk wrote:
we have our lynch target so Vigi's - Here is a lurker list, Start firing.

14. prplhz ( Flying under the radar )
23. darmousseh
28. creamybutter ( buggered off after being confirmed as II )
37. zona
38. gtrsrs
39. ribboo

WTF is darmousseh? ROFL. I have never even seen him in the thread. gg.
Valar Morghulis
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 22 2011 22:53 GMT
#1596
Ahhhh shit, I'm a bit late.

I see that town is in a bit of chaos trying to find someone to lynch day 2. I'd love to sort it out, but I've only done a casual reading so far. Will try not to get modkilled, but I need to re-read closely.

Honeypot so far suggests Mig more than Wiggles in my mind cuz I still think Wiggles is black.
Decond not claiming is suspicious.

Varys following Mig and tooting his horn is suspicious. I don't understand why he would do it.

The logic behind Nisani being red is actually quite good though. Hmmm. Still, he could also be a clueless green/black. Who knows.

I don't wanna be modkilled. Crazy nights past 2 nights. Sorry. Sleep deprivation. Ugh. Studying, ugh. T_T
darkness overpowering
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
July 22 2011 22:58 GMT
#1597
On July 23 2011 07:45 Mig wrote:
Hiro, I was the first person to write an analysis against nisani. I was the one who brought him up to everyone in the IRC, which started the entire bandwagon on him in the first place. Now I am trying to save him? I honestly don't know what goes through people's heads before they post. Do you just have no ability to think logically or what?


I have no patience for someone being a dick. you made your point, and now your trying to discredit me with "omg your so dum lol'. Take my post it or leave it. Also, you never responded to my PM.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 22 2011 23:00 GMT
#1598
Yea the way I put it was dickish I agree. But it is frustrating when people post things that are blatantly false and should be obvious to anyone even half reading the thread.

But no need to argue about it and clutter the thread up anymore.
Moderator
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
July 22 2011 23:14 GMT
#1599
There are certian people who I've played with that always seem really scummy to me. One of them is Ace, another Youngmini. I've generally tried to ignore them, because I don't trust myself to read them. However, after PYP Insane, I realsed that this doesn't help the town. Ace Was scum, and I was right about him for the right reasons. I just didn't think I could read him that easily.

Come to this game, and the same thing is happening. YM has almost polar opposite opinions on issues (such as taking fights to PM's, and PM's being only useful for mafia...). Thinking back on my post game discussions from PYPI, It's not a good idea to let people get away with this kind of behaviour. So I'm going to stick it to the man.

##Vote: Youngminii
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 22 2011 23:20 GMT
#1600
Been busy, but now as I've been rereading the thread a couple times (no more "all" button boo hoo) to try to decide between the leading candidates, something stood out to me.

On July 19 2011 04:14 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 04:08 Curu wrote:
On July 19 2011 03:46 redFF wrote:
Curu, since your vote is on Supersoft, why are you pm'ing someone you think is mafia?

Also why vote Ketomai supersoft? Just an OMGUS?


I asked him who his PM buddies were to see if he would reveal his scumbuddies.

He says he's active in PM land.
He is clearly not active in PM land.
If he can convince someone that he IS active in PM land and they confirm it, that's his scumbuddy.

He wasn't dumb enough to fall for the trap. But apparently he didn't need to, you outed yourself as his scumbuddy already.

I have not PMed him besides asking him why he is claiming VT to which he gave me the same BS answer that was already posted in this thread.

... i'm his scumbuddy? Please tell me how i am his scumbuddy. Just because i don't agree with this lynch and bandwagon doesn't make me his scumbuddy...

"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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