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well, I would rather lynch VE or CB over Kav, see as Kav at least told someone of his intetions to claim.
I was gonna use this time to talk about RoL, and now it doesn't matter much. All I was gonna really say is his scum hunting seems to be based off of what he would do in that situation, and not what he thinks someone else would do In the situation. Just pointing out a miner flaw really.
Im gonna go over the thread to see what I cand dig up. I am also suspicious of Naz's defense of Mig, which relies on pointing out that Mig started the Redff train. What he doesn't say is that Mig ends up voting VE instead of Red. Just sayin, He looks to be overlooking the whole that is Mig
Ill be back in 6 hours or so 
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Telling someone about his plan doesn't make him more or less scummy, it simply makes his plan weaker. (Detailed in one of my previous posts). No one else seems to acknowledge this. Is my reasoning wrong?
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why am i not surprised?
if he gets replaced, i'm gonna vote for his replacement
if he gets modkilled, i think mig is a good choice for today's lynch, but there's still 24 hours or so so plenty of time for discussion, will look into the voting patterns
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Noooo guys we're supposed to be lynching CreamyButter.
##vote CreamyButter
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LoL RoL gw buddy. He said he wanted a break from mafia anyway.
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Who said anything about lynching CreamyButter ever? I thought the plan was to let the vigs (fail to?) take care of us using their discretion.
But yeah, I'd be down with a CreamyButter lynch if we can build a reasonable case that DOESN'T involve his "fake" scum-claim (in good conscience, if that's all it's based on I can't vote for it...being guilty of similar actions myself,) and if the rest of town agrees that lynching one of the supposed Insane Inmates is the preferred course of action today.
What in particular are you basing your vote for him off?
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On July 22 2011 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Who said anything about lynching CreamyButter ever? I thought the plan was to let the vigs (fail to?) take care of us using their discretion.
But yeah, I'd be down with a CreamyButter lynch if we can build a reasonable case that DOESN'T involve his "fake" scum-claim (in good conscience, if that's all it's based on I can't vote for it...being guilty of similar actions myself,) and if the rest of town agrees that lynching one of the supposed Insane Inmates is the preferred course of action today.
What in particular are you basing your vote for him off?
Seems like an attempt to bring up old scrutiny to divert the heat off of himself... didnt we decide to ignore the potential IIs for right now anyway?
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Yeah, often times I don't like dying... I'm helping you guys by giving you a better lynch target.
I gave Kav the node graph; notasmurf trusted him so I'm sure that it wont fall into the wrong hands.
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rofl, this thread.
Lynch nisani or rol, I suggest rol, unless he gets modkilled, we need a confirmation on that.
I need to sleep.
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oh, did I mention, youngminii is scum
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what, we want to kill both you and your scumbuddy?
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No. You want to kill a poor, innocent townie. And that is mean.
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you don't want to give us your graph. we don't want to change our votes.
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STFU SUPERSOFT. Palmar will not be pleased!
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Okay here's what I see. Palmar is content with his swaying power over town, and my first thought was that he's third party but I've come to the conclusion that he's town (see below when I talk about CreamyButter and VE). He did some analysis on some people Day 1 (I think it was CreamyButter and Pyo) but never actually pushed for their lynches, this bought him a ton of town cred. This is a marked difference from his play today/last night, which is just "kill this guy, this guy's scum" etc. because he's 100% content with his position in town at the moment. I'd ask him to bring back the Day 1 Palmar but he won't listen to anything I say anyway.
There were 11v13 votes for VE against redFF. redFF turned out red so I can only imagine that scum were almost all on VE to try and save red. I'm guilty of voting VE, yeah, but I honestly thought redFF was town, I couldn't see someone slipping so much. Unless of course, VE is also scum which renders this all moot. Oh and supersoft is pretty town.
I want to point out that Mig was on the VE list, as he's the main person implicated from the entire Honeypot event. Most people seem to have forgotten about this event, but it's still pretty fresh in my memory. I read bum's analysis on him and honestly, I agree with most of his points. However, this leaves us with the loose end coming from notasmurf's trap. Wasn't it decided that wiggles or mig was scum? Or did I trust notasmurf's plan too closely?
People are going back to trying to lynch CreamyButter who was caught lying (assuming VE was telling the truth) on Day 1. One of them were meant to have been shot but it looks like no one did so.. Either one of them HAS to be 3rd party/mafia, and I think it's probably CreamyButter. This is why I think Palmar isn't 3rd party. If he was, surely he'd be trying to lynch CreamyButter, no? I mean there's no reason to lynch nisani or RoL if he was 3rd party, unless he suspected RoL was also 3rd party which is a possibility. Either way, he could have easily used his swaying power to kill CB.
So far, Kurumi has claimed MH while Deconduo + RoL have basically claimed Vets. I don't know if Kurumi's claim is believable but he claims to have a bomb on me. There was absolutely no reason for Kurumi to claim either, he literally did it for no reason which I can only attribute to being a lie or a trap. His play has been cryptic, no, spammy this entire game and pretty anti-town considering he sided with RoL in the mini argument between RoL and myself.
So basically those are my points of view right now. There's a lot of people lying low this game and obviously they warrant a closer looking at, but I don't see any way of making every single lurker come out of their little holes. In any case, the person I find most suspicious right now is Mig and Kurumi. I'm pretty good with Mig for now because of his pro-town attitude but I'm fairly certain Kurumi's claim was fake. There's no good reason for someone to lie again and I'm willing to bet my life that he's not a Mad Hatter and is either 3rd party or mafia.
@ Nisani: I did not 'subtly' defend redFF. I'll tell you right now that I really did think red was town and defended him pretty strongly. I'd apologise but there are 16 other people that didn't vote for red either. I thought he was town.
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What the hell are you talking about youngminii?
Fuck yeah I want to lynch RoL. I'm also content with killing both nisani and you.
We have two (imo 3) great lynch options.
RoL who I have basically proved to be third party scummy player, and he's gotten himself banned for two weeks anyway, but yeah, he's a lying scumbag and needs to hang or get shot in face.
And then we have Nisani201, based on Mig's case. We hopped on him based on a conversation we had on IRC, which is why we voted before Mig who was appointed to post the actual analysis, got his work done.
So I don't see what you're complaining about, we have 2 great targets.
And then we have you, you dirty scum.
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i'm assuming rol's going to get modkilled
nisani has been extremely passive the entire game, like the other lurkers, i don't know what IRC conversation you are talking about, must've skipped it
and then you have me, so you say
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you weren't on irc. it was basically just a few of us considering lynch targets, and one of us brought up the gems Mig pointed out in his analysis.
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