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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 20 2011 00:32 GMT
#981
Die scum die!

##Unvote
##Vote redFF
Computer says mafia
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
July 20 2011 00:33 GMT
#982
On July 20 2011 09:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'll go for lynching redFF now, so long as someone shoots VE tonight.


Ill go along with this. wish it could have been Pyo.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
July 20 2011 00:33 GMT
#983
##Vote redFF
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 20 2011 00:37 GMT
#984
On July 20 2011 09:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Curu/Wiggles can you read my post and explain why VE is a better shot than CB/Kav?


Right now, neither Kav nor CB have confirmed that those PMs are real. Until they do, the only thing we have to go on is VE's word. As well, we don't know that neither have a buddy either, until they tell us. So, I want VE shot right now because his death will tell us more about CB/Kav than the other way around, until we hear each of their explanations.

I'll probably change my mind after I hear from CB/Kav, depending on if they confirm the PMs, or claim to have told someone ahead of time, and their reasoning for ever claiming traitor to VE in the first place. The call for VE's death is just based on the info I have right now.

Also, an early farewell to the All button. Oh, how I will miss you.

you gotta dance
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 20 2011 00:39 GMT
#985
CB is a fair shot anyway

I remember talking to syllo after I accused him a bit this morning, and us agreeing he could very well be a bad insane inmate.

PYO IS ALSO A GOOD SHOT MR VIGILANTE!
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2011 00:39 GMT
#986
...sorry for putting us past 50 pages guys...not my intention.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 20 2011 00:39 GMT
#987
On July 20 2011 09:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Curu/Wiggles can you read my post and explain why VE is a better shot than CB/Kav?


My first instinct was the same as yours. If you find my post earlier I said my preferred order was CB -> VE -> Kav because CB already seemed like a Traitor candidate.

But yeah, CB and Kav aren't around to confirm or deny their role in those PMs, so I'm leaning more towards VE now.

Either way, that's not what I care about right now, I want redFF dead.
wat
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 00:39 GMT
#988
That's why we can wait to decide who to hit. I am leaning towards CB as well, but waiting for Kav/CB might shed some more light just like VE's did.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 20 2011 00:41 GMT
#989
On July 20 2011 09:37 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 09:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Curu/Wiggles can you read my post and explain why VE is a better shot than CB/Kav?


Right now, neither Kav nor CB have confirmed that those PMs are real. Until they do, the only thing we have to go on is VE's word. As well, we don't know that neither have a buddy either, until they tell us. So, I want VE shot right now because his death will tell us more about CB/Kav than the other way around, until we hear each of their explanations.

I'll probably change my mind after I hear from CB/Kav, depending on if they confirm the PMs, or claim to have told someone ahead of time, and their reasoning for ever claiming traitor to VE in the first place. The call for VE's death is just based on the info I have right now.

Also, an early farewell to the All button. Oh, how I will miss you.



convincing. I now swing the votecount (redFF 11:12 VE) into redFFs favour. If I counted correctly.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 20 2011 00:42 GMT
#990
On July 20 2011 06:23 Kavdragon wrote:
VE, as a townie, you would have had to thought this out a lot before it happened. There's no way that you wouldn't have told someone else, as this is the obvious thing that would happen to you. Sorry, but no. If you had told someone else, then maybe.

That being said, I do NOT think we should lynch VE.

Pardon me for thinking out loud here, but what threat does VE pose to the town? He's not part of the actual mafia, so he doesn't count towards their KP. Everyone knows that he's scum now, and no one will be fooled into giving him information. We get no information from this lynch for obvious reasons.

Yes, I realize that I'm saying "don't lynch scum" but he's not a scum that will lower the KP, so I think he can wait. If he survives to tomorrow, so what? Vigis will eventually hit him, and if even that fails, we can lynch him later.

Does this make sense?

[18:51] Guy, if you believe me at all, vote for redFF. He's hella scummy, just look at his posts! They're awful! How is Pyo any better a lynch than redFF?
[18:55] There are several things that make me think he's town.
[18:55] Anyways.
[18:55] Ahhh...you PM with him then.
[18:55] M'kay.
[18:55] I hav something i need to discuss with you.
[18:55] K
[18:56] You may have noticed that I've not been that active.
[18:56] Sure
[18:56] To be honest, I'm findingit hard to find the time to play,
[18:56] So unfortunetly for my allies,
[18:56] I'm not going to be the safest person.
[18:56] I think that you faked the PM
[18:56] From CB.
[18:57] So that you can live a little longer.
[18:57] Nope.
[18:57] You may have also noticed that I've been trying to keep you alive.
[18:57] Ya
[18:57] Yeah, sure that's what you'd say regardless of alignment.
[18:58] So I ask you....
[18:58] I feel the point coming....
[18:58] Are you really the II?
[18:58] Why do you say 'the' II?
[18:58] The OP clearly states there could be more than one.
[18:59] lol.
[18:59] Fail language from me.
[18:59] "a" II then.
[19:00] Why are you asking? I've stated in-thread that I'm not.
[19:00] Do you not believe me?
[19:00] Obviously I don;t believe you or I'd be pushing your lynch.
[19:01] K...are you claiming red to me then?
[19:01] Whatever.
[19:01] I'm tired of playing games.
[19:01] I'm trying to figure out where this is going.
[19:01] You may hav already guessed,
[19:01] Be straight with me.
[19:01] I am an II.
[19:01] Ah
[19:01] And I think that you pulled something very clever with the CB PM.
[19:01] I'm good at calling people's bluffs.
[19:01] Really?
[19:01] Ask iGrok and Chaoser.
[19:02] Chaoser claimed king.
[19:02] And I called his bluff, and thoguht he was a BG.
[19:02] So i shot him.
[19:02] So what do YOU think I am?
[19:02] An II.
[19:02] A townie wouldn't have gone into that conversation with Wiggles without telling someone else.
[19:03] Not true.
[19:03] A newb would.
[19:03]
[19:03] And I'm a newb.
[19:03] Obviously.
[19:03] Whatever. Obviously you think that I'm trolling you, or trying to get you to admit something.
[19:03] Doesn't matter.
[19:03] I don't want information given to me,
[19:04] I want information given to the mafia.
[19:04] If they get in contact with you before the lynch, give them my name.
[19:04] Well, I can only say that CB contacted me much like you are.
[19:04] No one from the actual 'mafia team' have contacted me one way or the other.
[19:05] And whether I'm II or town, I'm won't know who the other mafia are that haven't contacted me specifically.
[19:05] Which honestly, hasn't happened.
[19:05] Sorry brah.

Kav says don't vote VE before he was exposed. How do you say don't vote that guy and then go and msg him privately and tell him you are II.

You sure we can't switch votes? I'd happily switch to Kav if it had any use.
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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 20 2011 00:43 GMT
#991
there is no analysis on me, curu's case was one prolonged omgus, i figured out supersoft was town 10 pages before the rest of you and now im getting lynched.

He claimed traitor and told nobody he was doing it as a trap. Notice how neither CB or Kav have come in to confirm or deny they pm'd him. this is ridiculous.

he claimed traitor, he lied. that was lynchworthy yesterday but no longer, the case against me is terrible.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2011 00:44 GMT
#992
Here's the thing with waiting on a response from these guys:

I was under the impression that altering/fabricating the content of PMs was verboten...so obviously while you can't trust my word, you can at least trust that I'm playing the game and not cheating.

We can assume that they're going to A) deny sending it or B) claim like I did to be fishing for an admittance. They're not going to say 'Yeah, okay...you got me guys...I said that, and I meant it.' Regardless of their alignment. Waiting for them is just stalling. I'm HERE. I'm trying to HELP town, and I'm telling you the things I said were/are the real deal.

Take it for what it's worth. I try not to cheat in games...like ever. It goes against my nature as a gamer.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 20 2011 00:47 GMT
#993
On July 20 2011 09:43 redFF wrote:
there is no analysis on me, curu's case was one prolonged omgus, i figured out supersoft was town 10 pages before the rest of you and now im getting lynched.

He claimed traitor and told nobody he was doing it as a trap. Notice how neither CB or Kav have come in to confirm or deny they pm'd him. this is ridiculous.

he claimed traitor, he lied. that was lynchworthy yesterday but no longer, the case against me is terrible.


I did too on a page before. You still haven't given any explanation for your accusation of Lucidity nor your reason for completely blind pm'ing supersoft as if you knew he was townie. Wouldn't that be a good way to at least try to defend yourself? You basically dodged the entire post I threw at you.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 20 2011 00:47 GMT
#994
On July 20 2011 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Here's the thing with waiting on a response from these guys:

I was under the impression that altering/fabricating the content of PMs was verboten...so obviously while you can't trust my word, you can at least trust that I'm playing the game and not cheating.

We can assume that they're going to A) deny sending it or B) claim like I did to be fishing for an admittance. They're not going to say 'Yeah, okay...you got me guys...I said that, and I meant it.' Regardless of their alignment. Waiting for them is just stalling. I'm HERE. I'm trying to HELP town, and I'm telling you the things I said were/are the real deal.

Take it for what it's worth. I try not to cheat in games...like ever. It goes against my nature as a gamer.


Well, if they deny it, one of the two of you is confirmed scum. If they say it's for fishing, we ask them to provide their backup person, who they told beforehand. They (especially kav) should have one, especially after the discussion surrounding your reveal. If they don't there's a better chance they are an II.
you gotta dance
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 20 2011 00:51 GMT
#995
On July 20 2011 09:47 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 09:43 redFF wrote:
there is no analysis on me, curu's case was one prolonged omgus, i figured out supersoft was town 10 pages before the rest of you and now im getting lynched.

He claimed traitor and told nobody he was doing it as a trap. Notice how neither CB or Kav have come in to confirm or deny they pm'd him. this is ridiculous.

he claimed traitor, he lied. that was lynchworthy yesterday but no longer, the case against me is terrible.


I did too on a page before. You still haven't given any explanation for your accusation of Lucidity nor your reason for completely blind pm'ing supersoft as if you knew he was townie. Wouldn't that be a good way to at least try to defend yourself? You basically dodged the entire post I threw at you.

supersoft pm'd me first, please actually read the thread. That's because ur post and analysis was terrible. I was going to write an analysis on lucidity but then ve claimed traitor to wiggles and we didn't need any alternate lynches to worry about when we had a confirmed traitor so i figured i'd write it tommorow. And no i'm not going to waste my time writing it up now because it will have people being like "oh he was town and he called lucidity scum, lucidity is obvscum and we should lynch him!" and people won't actually look at evidence. Congratulations on jumping on 2 shitty bandwagons today, your town play is incredible.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 20 2011 00:52 GMT
#996
why so anti-town redFF?

You wanna win, tell us who is scum?
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2011 00:53 GMT
#997
No one is confirmed yet red, that thinking is entirely fallacious and should stop now. What confirms me as II? My word? But I have given my word that I'm not. So you're just picking/choosing what to believe based on what suits you best (which is presently discrediting me/calling me confirmed scum to scare people into voting for me.)

Scummy as hell sir. Scummy as hell.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 20 2011 00:54 GMT
#998
On July 20 2011 09:41 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 09:37 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 20 2011 09:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Curu/Wiggles can you read my post and explain why VE is a better shot than CB/Kav?


Right now, neither Kav nor CB have confirmed that those PMs are real. Until they do, the only thing we have to go on is VE's word. As well, we don't know that neither have a buddy either, until they tell us. So, I want VE shot right now because his death will tell us more about CB/Kav than the other way around, until we hear each of their explanations.

I'll probably change my mind after I hear from CB/Kav, depending on if they confirm the PMs, or claim to have told someone ahead of time, and their reasoning for ever claiming traitor to VE in the first place. The call for VE's death is just based on the info I have right now.

Also, an early farewell to the All button. Oh, how I will miss you.



convincing. I now swing the votecount (redFF 11:12 VE) into redFFs favour. If I counted correctly.

You seem too eager.
Life can only kill you once.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 20 2011 00:55 GMT
#999
Red my and syllos posts against you provide a very strong case. You haven't done any of your normal scum hunting whatsoever. Along with that you defended a townie who lied and was playing very scummy and your only reasoning was you thought he was a newbie town, which you never gave any reasoning or evidence to back up. Your defense of him was extremely unlike a townie and very suspicious. People defending others with poor reasoning can be just as damning as people attacking without a good case.

VE I don't believe you are town. Your play so far has been identical to your RTM mafia play. You did absolutely 0 scum hunting before wiggles called you out. You just lurked while providing nothing for the town. Very very different from your normal town play.

I also think CB and Kav are likely traitors as well. The point nazgul made about kav is very strong. There is little reason Kav would ask people not to kill VE and then go and try to fish for information by talking to him. It seems much more likely that kav was legitimately trying to save him because he is also a traitor.

So right now I want red/VE/kav/CB dead. Red/VE/Kav as the main 3.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 20 2011 00:57 GMT
#1000
On July 20 2011 09:54 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 09:41 supersoft wrote:
On July 20 2011 09:37 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 20 2011 09:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Curu/Wiggles can you read my post and explain why VE is a better shot than CB/Kav?


Right now, neither Kav nor CB have confirmed that those PMs are real. Until they do, the only thing we have to go on is VE's word. As well, we don't know that neither have a buddy either, until they tell us. So, I want VE shot right now because his death will tell us more about CB/Kav than the other way around, until we hear each of their explanations.

I'll probably change my mind after I hear from CB/Kav, depending on if they confirm the PMs, or claim to have told someone ahead of time, and their reasoning for ever claiming traitor to VE in the first place. The call for VE's death is just based on the info I have right now.

Also, an early farewell to the All button. Oh, how I will miss you.



convincing. I now swing the votecount (redFF 11:12 VE) into redFFs favour. If I counted correctly.

You seem too eager.


i originally wanted to add:
Guys, I hope he turns red... Another day defending myself would make my head explode.
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